On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 22:58:17 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> rBowman: 80°F, mostly sunny, and 35% humidity.
> This ain't Georgia and I don't need to grow gills.
>
> Silly exercise doesn't interest me, Sorry DFS.
> 62°F, 10:30pm, calm, occasional light rain.
> No one can tell you what "humidity" is, here in Seattle.

The best description of Seattle I've ever heard was 'a beautiful woman who
is sick all the time'. I've been there when it wasn't raining and riding
the bike paths harvesting the blackberries was very pleasant.

The last time I was there I had a pleasant trip up the coast from Newport
OR. Then when I woke up in Port Angeles it was pouring. I was the first
car in the bow of the Kingston ferry but it wasn't very scenic. I couldn't
even see the Edmonds terminal until we were about 100 yards out. It
finally stopped raining when I crossed Stevens Pass.

My most memorable trip was Thanksgiving weekend of 1990 when I came down
off Snoqualmie to find the floating bridge had sank. Luckily I was headed
for the Millstone coffee plant in Everett and didn't have to deal with the
people returning from their holiday tryimg to re-route.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 07:20:43 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> Heh. Years ago I went into a HobbyLobby hoping to find cool hobby stuff
> like model trains. Never have I been so disappointed.

The remaining real hobby shop in town is run by an old lady on her way out
and is open a couple of hours two days a week. It isn't much but if you
run out of Tamiya XF-60 halfway through your Panzerkampfwagen V...

RadioShack is long gone. I picked up some Arduino stuff during their going
out of business sale. Unlike furniture stores they sold everything
including the shelves.

That's another example of heading to Amazon, AdaFruit, or SparkFun rather
than supporting a local business. There is a maker space at the library
with scanners, laser cutters, 3D printers, and microprocessors but no
local source if a kid starts a project.

Seattle 2pm: cloudy, 68°F, calm.

Over the past two decades, Seattle’s population has grown
from 572,587 in 2005 to 797,700 in 2024, representing
an increase of over 225,000 residents, or more than 39 %.

Among the 50 largest U.S. cities,
Seattle has the fastest population growth ( 2.4 %/Year ).

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:23:33 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>On 8/22/2024 1:58 AM, Relf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Silly exercise doesn't interest me, Sorry DFS.
>>>
>>>Then you'll die a silly death.
>>
>> It is admirable that you live such a robust lifestyle, admittedly. I
>> rely on MDMA, more so.
>
> What do they say? Eat right, sleep well, exercise. Die anyway.
>
> (That, of course, ignores the extra pleasure of health that one has
> while alive.)

If I'd continued with the lifestyle I had in my '20s I wouldn't be posting
drivel to c.o.l.a. today... I'm feeling it a bit after another day of up
gullies, across ridges, and down the other side but I'll take that over
gumming down oatmeal in a nursing home.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:53:30 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> Over the past two decades, Seattle’s population has grown from 572,587
> in 2005 to 797,700 in 2024, representing an increase of over 225,000
> residents, or more than 39 %.

https://www.biggestuscities.com/city/missoula-montana

"Missoula has grown 34.7% since the 2000. Missoula, Montana is growing
somewhat quickly; it is growing faster than 64% of similarly sized cities
since 2000."

Same shit, different scale. When I moved here in '89 it was 48,430; now
it's 77,757. It's harder to hide 30,000 extra people in a city
constrained by rivers and mountains.

rBowman: When I moved here in '89 it was 48,430 [1990]; now it's [78,876].
It's harder to hide 30,000 extra people in a city
constrained by rivers and mountains.

Missoula grew 63 % ( 78876 / 48430 ) 1990 to 2024
Seattle grew 66 % ( 797700 / 516259 )
America grew 39 % ( 345426571 / 248709873 )

rBowman: I'm thinking the problem may be self curing when the music stops.

I doubt it, Montana is far from Kaczynski, Putin & the Ayatollah.

On 8/22/2024 12:56 PM, Joel wrote:
> "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>
>> You (DFS) replied ( to Jesus(tm) ):
>>>> Diet Pepsi keeps my body healthy.
>>>
>>> any cardio or weights?
>>
>> He twerks while getting plowed.
>
>
> My GF is long distance, for now. But she does have a nice cock.

Where are you trafficking her to?

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 8/22/2024 12:56 PM, Joel wrote:
>> "Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>>
>>> [Joel gets] plowed [by trans women's penises].
>>
>> My GF is long distance, for now. But she does have a nice cock.
>
>Where are you trafficking her to?

Where I live, you do remember that, right?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 8/22/2024 12:40 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 8/21/2024 7:15 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What exercise did you do recently?
>>>
>>> I can't speak for Jeff, but I walk to get around, and
>>
>> That's good. Being thin is half the battle anyway.
>>
>>> the MDMA in Diet Pepsi
>>
>> kook!
>
>
> You can say that but it's self-evident, Pepsi is synonymous with MDMA.
> All one needs is $2 to buy a bottle, to prove it to oneself.
>
>
>>> keeps my body healthy. So I am in good shape.
>>
>> any cardio or weights?
>
>
> No need for that, really.

Getting an arm pump - bi's tri's and forearms all at once - is an
awesome feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzeXs5RutEI

So is a chest and back pump together.

On 8/21/2024 11:11 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 19:12:18 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Today I did 10 laps of my street, 4 with weights (20,30,40,50). 80
>> degrees, light clouds, August in Georgia humidity. Laps 9 and 10 are
>> killers.
>>
>> What exercise did you do recently?
>
> According to Fitbit I put on 5.64 miles, most of which was on trails with
> elevation gain. The amusing part is they have a Zone Min calculation based
> on time at various heart rates. "Aiming for 150 Zone Minutes each week can
> help maintain a healthy heart." I got exactly 150 Zone Minutes today so I
> guess I'm done for the week. Oops, Sunday was 221. I'm toast.

2.5 hrs in the zone? You sound like an absolute unit.

On Mon, 16 Sep 2024 16:25:32 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> rbowman wrote:
>
>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>
>>> 2.5 hrs in the zone? You sound like an absolute unit.
>>
>>There are days and then there are days :) Today I scored 83 zone minutes
>>for 5.92 miles and I think the 16 minutes of 'intense' was a fluke and
>>really should have been moderate.
>
> I average about 3 hours a week jogging. Three 40 minute jogs and one 60
> minute jog is a typical week.

Today I got back to ridge running instead of shuffling around the flat
lands.

https://mtnmisfits.com/hiking-to-deadmans-point-blue-mountain/

I started up Hayes Creek like he shows but there is another trail up the
ridge id you know it's there. You have to cut into the woods and pick up
what looks like a game trail. It gets a little better and has several
switchbacks and even a little bridge. Deer don't do bridges so someone
built it. The FS calls those 'social trails' and they aren't marked or on
many maps.

The weather forecast called for possible showers but it was sunny and very
pleasant on the point. An eagle was perched on the snag shown in the
video. He flew off before I could figure out how to use the phone's
camera.

On the was back I went west on the ridge to the 'official' trail he had
hiked up. Instead of going back down the creek I went up the ridge on the
other side to an unnamed viewpoint on the east edge of the ridge, down the
north side and around the foot of the ridge to the car.

Fitbit's verdict: 15,092 steps, 6.93 miles, and 318 active zone minutes.
They score the intense/peak zone double so it really was 90 minutes in the
moderate zone and 114 in the intense/peak. I've got a pedometer app that
claimed 15864 steps and 7.26 miles. They sometimes differ wildly but were
close today.

The Charge 6 tries to figure out if you're exercising although you can set
it manually. With all of the above it decided I'd taken a 33 minute walk
at 1534 which would correspond to the time I was walking down from the
last ridge.

I was never much into jogging. There is a Blackfoot surname that describes
me: Heavy Runner. Unlike DFS I don't record the stats in an Access
database although Fitbit (Google) does send a weekly summary. I've been
doing hikes like that most of my life and I don't know if the data adds
anything but nerd factor. I'd bump the bottom of the moderate zone up a
little but the zones are calculated from your age and aren't editable.

Now to figure out what I'll do tomorrow if it doesn't rain. Maybe the
Barmeyer:

https://www.trailforks.com/trails/barmeyer-trail/

There's a pedestrian only trail on to the east that isn't shown that makes
a nice loop of about 3 miles. The long form continues up Mt. Dean Stone
for a 10 miles, 2700' elevation gain hike.

rbowman wrote:

>Today I got back to ridge running instead of shuffling around the flat
>lands.
>
>https://mtnmisfits.com/hiking-to-deadmans-point-blue-mountain/
>
>I started up Hayes Creek like he shows but there is another trail up the
>ridge id you know it's there. You have to cut into the woods and pick up
>what looks like a game trail. It gets a little better and has several
>switchbacks and even a little bridge. Deer don't do bridges so someone
>built it. The FS calls those 'social trails' and they aren't marked or on
>many maps.

It looks like a good place to twist an ankle!

--
"Oh, look: a claim from chrisv that there's only 500 supercomputers
in the world." - lying asshole "-hh", lying shamelessly

On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 16:42:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> rbowman wrote:
>
>>Today I got back to ridge running instead of shuffling around the flat
>>lands.
>>
>>https://mtnmisfits.com/hiking-to-deadmans-point-blue-mountain/
>>
>>I started up Hayes Creek like he shows but there is another trail up the
>>ridge id you know it's there. You have to cut into the woods and pick up
>>what looks like a game trail. It gets a little better and has several
>>switchbacks and even a little bridge. Deer don't do bridges so someone
>>built it. The FS calls those 'social trails' and they aren't marked or
>>on many maps.
>
> It looks like a good place to twist an ankle!

I've been hiking rough terrain for a year or three and so far haven't
twisted an ankle. I did bring trekking poles. I don't always use them but
several of the connecting trails are multi-use with dirt bikes allowed.
There are some steep pitches with loose gravel.

They are genuine FS trails so they aren't as bad as an area I hike where
the trails were created by mountain bikers. I've never seen them in action
but they must be crazier than the proverbial shit house rat. You need
poles to lever yourself up some of the pitches. If the terrain isn't bad
enough they've built some jumps to finish off the job. That's what I use
for a real cardio workout.

On 9/18/2024 6:32 PM, rbowman wrote:

> They are genuine FS trails so they aren't as bad as an area I hike where
> the trails were created by mountain bikers. I've never seen them in action
> but they must be crazier than the proverbial shit house rat. You need
> poles to lever yourself up some of the pitches. If the terrain isn't bad
> enough they've built some jumps to finish off the job. That's what I use
> for a real cardio workout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6sHmSM11z0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj-lNBrZnx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnWZ9pcrgSg

I have delusions I can do it!

On Wed, 18 Sep 2024 18:45:45 -0400, DFS wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6sHmSM11z0
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj-lNBrZnx0
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnWZ9pcrgSg
>
>
>
> I have delusions I can do it!

The third one is the closest. Big rocks and sturdy pines and doug firs if
you wipe out. On the ones off the side of the ridge I don't think stopping
is an option no matter how far back you scoot your butt.

There is a more formal area with some trails that are pedestrian/bike and
some are bike/downhill only. It's bike only so I never walked it but I
assume the 'Bjorn Again' is the hairiest. At the start of the trail there
is a big sign 'Skills Test' that's about a 3' vertical drop. It says if
you're not comfortable doing that you better take 'Hello Kitty' down.

I've ridden single track but it's always been on trails that I rode up
first before going down. When I get to the point where I'm in the lowest
granny gear and lifting the front wheel I figure I've reached the point
where my downhill skills are at the limit.