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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: Joel
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From: joelcrump@gmail.com (Joel)
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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>On 8/24/2024 1:49 PM, Loser Asshole Plagiarizer (Larry A Piet) wrote:
>
>> But the "find" command, as well as regular expressions, would be
>> enough to send any Microslop idiot into a head-banging tizzy.
>
>Funny, coming from a GuhNoo clown who had to plagiarize his example of
>'find' from a 5-year-old stackexchange post.

Larry is trying to say that Windows doesn't have the depth of Linux
without having to say it outright - but of course he's not correct. NT
is good stuff but just *MASSIVELY* bloated when the current *builds*
of Win10 are the oldest supported versions, currently. My computer's
three years old but already benefits from the switch to Linux.

And if one were to interject that I could've gone backward to
Windows 10, rather than remaining with 11, it's true but lame from my
point of view, same reason I didn't end up liking Mint's upgrade
policy and going in a different direction, no biggie, it's installing
an OS. You jumped the gun and asked if my new distro was Win11, well
guess what, I'm not unable to cope with what I have now, in fact it's
teaching me lessons I more than deserve.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: DFS
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On 8/24/2024 7:19 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/2024 1:49 PM, Loser Asshole Plagiarizer (Larry A Piet) wrote:
>>
>>> But the "find" command, as well as regular expressions, would be
>>> enough to send any Microslop idiot into a head-banging tizzy.
>>
>> Funny, coming from a GuhNoo clown who had to plagiarize his example of
>> 'find' from a 5-year-old stackexchange post.
>
>
> Larry is trying to say that Windows doesn't have the depth of Linux
> without having to say it outright - but of course he's not correct.

He's also trying to denigrate Windows users, as if we can't use 'find'
or regex. But it turns out he's incompetent and had to steal his example.

> NT
> is good stuff but just *MASSIVELY* bloated when the current *builds*
> of Win10 are the oldest supported versions, currently. My computer's
> three years old but already benefits from the switch to Linux.

Remember to keep that hardware around so you can see how well Win13 runs
on it.

> And if one were to interject that I could've gone backward to
> Windows 10, rather than remaining with 11, it's true but lame from my
> point of view, same reason I didn't end up liking Mint's upgrade
> policy and going in a different direction, no biggie, it's installing
> an OS. You jumped the gun and asked if my new distro was Win11, well
> guess what, I'm not unable to cope with what I have now, in fact it's
> teaching me lessons I more than deserve.

I had to give up on ever again installing a netnannying / DEI /
intolerant distro (of which openSUSE is definitely one).

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: DFS
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On 8/24/2024 2:11 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 24-08-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
>> On 8/24/2024 8:24 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>
>>> For example, renaming a file
>>> is very easy with a mouse. It's no more difficult within the terminal
>>> but you need to learn how to do it with a terminal, you can guess with a
>>> GUI program. So, the mouse seems to be easier than the terminal.
>>>
>>> But, if you want to rename hundreds of files, it's neither more
>>> difficult with a GUI program than within the terminal. But it will be
>>> faster within a terminal than within the GUI program in which you need
>>> to rename all your files one by one.
>>
>>
>> This file renamer is yet another fantastic Windows app:
>>
>> https://www.den4b.com/screenshots/renamer
>
> It's the first time I see a GUI more difficult to use than the command
> line. Thanks for the sharing.

wth? Anyone can use that GUI immediately. Virtually zero learning curve.

I'm sure most of ReNamer's functionality can be replicated with scripts,
but it will take you a MINIMUM of weeks to learn how to duplicate what
you can do in 2 minutes with ReNamer.

For instance, what's the bash/sed/awk/python/perl script to replace the
last underscore in a filename with 2 spaces:

from: Lecture_03_ImageHistograms.pdf
To : Lecture_03 ImageHistograms.pdf

https://imgur.com/a/tonxlWh

That's a very simple example of course, but you can create complex
renaming rules in a few minutes with the GUI.

Did I say GuhNoo/Linux/FOSS can't compete?

>> GuhNoo/Linux/FOSS can't compete.

yep, I did say that. Well, it bears repeating for the stubborn
malcontents on cola.

> Yes, I can see that.

That's all I ever wanted...

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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From: ldo@nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 09:20:51 -0400, DFS wrote:

> This file renamer is yet another fantastic Windows app:
>
> https://www.den4b.com/screenshots/renamer

What a long-drawn-out, clumsy process.

> GuhNoo/Linux/FOSS can't compete.

This <https://manpages.debian.org/1/mmv.1.en.html> is what I have used.

Also, I wrote this
<https://gitlab.com/ldo/render-useful/-/blob/master/renumber-frames.1>
for a more specialist use.

Subject: Stop bagging on Mint (was: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap)
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Subject: Stop bagging on Mint (was: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap)
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 15:26:46 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>>Le 23-08-2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>>>
>>>>Mint is still a pretty decent distro for beginners.
>>>
>>> It's bloatware, really, but far from as bad as Win11 or even Win10.
>>
>>A beginner's distro needs to be bloatware. You can't expect a beginner
>>to know what he'll need. So you provide him everything and when he'll
>>know, he'll be able to use only what he needs.
>
>
> I don't see it from the perspective, although I could, I like Mint
> because it's Mint, it gives you the experience of a friendly GUI under
> Linux. But it's not something I *had* to have, to prefer Linux.

Mint isn't "bloatware"...not unless including the codecs that
should be there in the first place is "bloatware". (Even
then, that is a choice at installation.)

--
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
OS: Linux 6.11.0-rc4 Release: Mint 21.3 Mem: 258G
"With friends like these, who needs to hallucinate?"

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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From: ldo@nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 16:10:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Another really useful tool I like is "vidir", from the moreutils
> package. It basically lets you rename filenames in a directory with your
> text editor ...

Emacs has the built-in “dired” function.

But then, Emacs has built-in functions for lots of things ...

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:05:00 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 8/24/2024 2:11 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>> Le 24-08-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> This file renamer is yet another fantastic Windows app:
>>>
>>> https://www.den4b.com/screenshots/renamer
>>
>> It's the first time I see a GUI more difficult to use than the command
>> line. Thanks for the sharing.
>
> wth? Anyone can use that GUI immediately. Virtually zero learning
> curve.

If there really was a “virtually zero learning curve”, why does it need so
many screenshots to explain what it does? Could you figure it out without
that? I don’t think so.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>>> Funny, coming from a GuhNoo clown who had to plagiarize his example of
>>> 'find' from a 5-year-old stackexchange post.
>>
>> Larry is trying to say that Windows doesn't have the depth of Linux
>> without having to say it outright - but of course he's not correct.
>
>He's also trying to denigrate Windows users, as if we can't use 'find'
>or regex. But it turns out he's incompetent and had to steal his example.

Dissing NT from an intellectual perspective is folly.

>> NT
>> is good stuff but just *MASSIVELY* bloated when the current *builds*
>> of Win10 are the oldest supported versions, currently. My computer's
>> three years old but already benefits from the switch to Linux.
>
>Remember to keep that hardware around so you can see how well Win13 runs
>on it.

Laughable, dude, I bet it wouldn't boot Win13, for some newer version
of security it won't have by then.

>> And if one were to interject that I could've gone backward to
>> Windows 10, rather than remaining with 11, it's true but lame from my
>> point of view, same reason I didn't end up liking Mint's upgrade
>> policy and going in a different direction, no biggie, it's installing
>> an OS. You jumped the gun and asked if my new distro was Win11, well
>> guess what, I'm not unable to cope with what I have now, in fact it's
>> teaching me lessons I more than deserve.
>
>I had to give up on ever again installing a netnannying / DEI /
>intolerant distro (of which openSUSE is definitely one).

Maybe, but what have I lost? My computer functions. You see me here,
posting as casually as ever.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Stop bagging on Mint (was: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap)
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Subject: Re: Stop bagging on Mint (was: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap)
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vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 15:26:46 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
><dsckcjlm3jqq9hk6dl9s8nu10g149e407h@4ax.com>:
>> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>>>Le 23-08-2024, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>>>>
>>>>>Mint is still a pretty decent distro for beginners.
>>>>
>>>> It's bloatware, really, but far from as bad as Win11 or even Win10.
>>>
>>>A beginner's distro needs to be bloatware. You can't expect a beginner
>>>to know what he'll need. So you provide him everything and when he'll
>>>know, he'll be able to use only what he needs.
>>
>> I don't see it from the perspective, although I could, I like Mint
>> because it's Mint, it gives you the experience of a friendly GUI under
>> Linux. But it's not something I *had* to have, to prefer Linux.
>
>Mint isn't "bloatware"...not unless including the codecs that
>should be there in the first place is "bloatware". (Even
>then, that is a choice at installation.)

Good point, Mint is nice in that way. But I don't depend on codecs to
do work, so losing some of that is just a minor detail, ultimately.
DFS is not going to find me resorting to using Windows.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:05:00 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
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> On 8/24/2024 2:11 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 24-08-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
>>> On 8/24/2024 8:24 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> For example, renaming a file
>>>> is very easy with a mouse. It's no more difficult within the terminal
>>>> but you need to learn how to do it with a terminal, you can guess with a
>>>> GUI program. So, the mouse seems to be easier than the terminal.
>>>>
>>>> But, if you want to rename hundreds of files, it's neither more
>>>> difficult with a GUI program than within the terminal. But it will be
>>>> faster within a terminal than within the GUI program in which you need
>>>> to rename all your files one by one.
>>>
>>>
>>> This file renamer is yet another fantastic Windows app:
>>>
>>> https://www.den4b.com/screenshots/renamer
>>
>> It's the first time I see a GUI more difficult to use than the command
>> line. Thanks for the sharing.
>
> wth? Anyone can use that GUI immediately. Virtually zero learning curve.
>
> I'm sure most of ReNamer's functionality can be replicated with scripts,
> but it will take you a MINIMUM of weeks to learn how to duplicate what
> you can do in 2 minutes with ReNamer.
>
>
> For instance, what's the bash/sed/awk/python/perl script to replace the
> last underscore in a filename with 2 spaces:
>
> from: Lecture_03_ImageHistograms.pdf
> To : Lecture_03 ImageHistograms.pdf
>
> https://imgur.com/a/tonxlWh
>

$ rename -E 's/(.+)_(.*\..+)$/$1 $2/' *

> Did I say GuhNoo/Linux/FOSS can't compete?
>
>
>>> GuhNoo/Linux/FOSS can't compete.
>
> yep, I did say that. Well, it bears repeating for the stubborn
> malcontents on cola.

Keep saying that, and you'll still be wrong.

("REGEX! DO YOU SPEAK IT?")

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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: rbowman
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 15:26:46 -0400, Joel wrote:

> I don't see it from the perspective, although I could, I like Mint
> because it's Mint, it gives you the experience of a friendly GUI under
> Linux. But it's not something I *had* to have, to prefer Linux.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/23/deepin_23/

Deepin rocks! Only fooling. I would thing a distro aimed primarily at
the Chinese market would be a little more Chinese. No, I really don't
know what I mean by that.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:49:36 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Dissing NT from an intellectual perspective is folly.

You must admit, the execution fell a bit short of the original promises.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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On 25 Aug 2024 00:53:34 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote in
<livdkdFdq60U4@mid.individual.net>:
>> from: Lecture_03_ImageHistograms.pdf
>> To : Lecture_03 ImageHistograms.pdf
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/tonxlWh
>>
>
> $ rename -E 's/(.+)_(.*\..+)$/$1 $2/' *

Slight correction:

$ rename -E 's/(.*)_(.*\..+)$/$1 $2/' *

There you go.

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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:49:36 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> Dissing NT from an intellectual perspective is folly.
>
> You must admit, the execution fell a bit short of the original promises.

Win NT 3 sucked. Win NT 4 was unstable enough to warrant reinstalls for our
project.

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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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> On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:05:00 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/2024 2:11 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>
>>> Le 24-08-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> This file renamer is yet another fantastic Windows app:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.den4b.com/screenshots/renamer
>>>
>>> It's the first time I see a GUI more difficult to use than the command
>>> line. Thanks for the sharing.
>>
>> wth? Anyone can use that GUI immediately. Virtually zero learning
>> curve.
>
> If there really was a “virtually zero learning curve”, why does it need so
> many screenshots to explain what it does? Could you figure it out without
> that? I don’t think so.

Explaining a GUI: Multiple edited screen-shots, accompanied by text explaining
what stuff to click on. Many pages long.

Explaining a CLI: A list of steps in text. Less than a page.

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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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> On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:05:00 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
> <vadsf8$1ip19$6@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 8/24/2024 2:11 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>> Le 24-08-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
>>>> On 8/24/2024 8:24 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For example, renaming a file
>>>>> is very easy with a mouse. It's no more difficult within the terminal
>>>>> but you need to learn how to do it with a terminal, you can guess with a
>>>>> GUI program. So, the mouse seems to be easier than the terminal.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, if you want to rename hundreds of files, it's neither more
>>>>> difficult with a GUI program than within the terminal. But it will be
>>>>> faster within a terminal than within the GUI program in which you need
>>>>> to rename all your files one by one.
>>>>
>>>> This file renamer is yet another fantastic Windows app:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.den4b.com/screenshots/renamer
>>>
>>> It's the first time I see a GUI more difficult to use than the command
>>> line. Thanks for the sharing.
>>
>> wth? Anyone can use that GUI immediately. Virtually zero learning curve.
>>
>> I'm sure most of ReNamer's functionality can be replicated with scripts,
>> but it will take you a MINIMUM of weeks to learn how to duplicate what
>> you can do in 2 minutes with ReNamer.
>>
>> For instance, what's the bash/sed/awk/python/perl script to replace the
>> last underscore in a filename with 2 spaces:
>>
>> from: Lecture_03_ImageHistograms.pdf
>> To : Lecture_03 ImageHistograms.pdf
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/tonxlWh
>
> $ rename -E 's/(.+)_(.*\..+)$/$1 $2/' *
>
>> Did I say GuhNoo/Linux/FOSS can't compete?
>>
>>>> GuhNoo/Linux/FOSS can't compete.
>>
>> yep, I did say that. Well, it bears repeating for the stubborn
>> malcontents on cola.
>
> Keep saying that, and you'll still be wrong.
>
> ("REGEX! DO YOU SPEAK IT?")

Teach a man a GUI, and he'll keep bugging you for help with other GUIs.

Teach a man to script, and he will help himself.

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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: Stéphane CARPENTIER
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Le 25-08-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:05:00 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
><vadsf8$1ip19$6@dont-email.me>:
>
>> For instance, what's the bash/sed/awk/python/perl script to replace the
>> last underscore in a filename with 2 spaces:
>>
>> from: Lecture_03_ImageHistograms.pdf
>> To : Lecture_03 ImageHistograms.pdf
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/tonxlWh
>
> $ rename -E 's/(.+)_(.*\..+)$/$1 $2/' *

On Archlinux I discovered some tim ago that the rename command is
different than the debian/ubuntu one. One don't use regex.

rename -l '_' ' ' *.pdf

It's way easier than the screenshot I saw on his link.

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Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
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Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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On 25 Aug 2024 18:05:50 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
> On Archlinux I discovered some tim ago that the rename command is
> different than the debian/ubuntu one. One don't use regex.
>

What a stupid fuck!

File rename commands don't use regex but rather file globbing.

There is a difference.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>> Dissing [Microsoft Windows operating systems descending from what in the 1990s was called] NT from an intellectual perspective is folly.
>
>You must admit, the execution fell a bit short of the original promises.

Nope. Windows 11 is a fine OS, if you have an i9 processor and 64 GB
RAM, with a 2 TB NVMe storage.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:49:36 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Dissing NT from an intellectual perspective is folly.
>>
>> You must admit, the execution fell a bit short of the original promises.
>
>Win NT 3 sucked. Win NT 4 was unstable enough to warrant reinstalls for our
>project.

By "NT" I simply meant the platform which began with that name, in the
'90s. Windows 11 is still sometimes called NT 11.x, as 7 was 6.1,
etc.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: rbowman
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On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:00:36 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
> royalties:
>
>> On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:49:36 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Dissing NT from an intellectual perspective is folly.
>>
>> You must admit, the execution fell a bit short of the original
>> promises.
>
> Win NT 3 sucked. Win NT 4 was unstable enough to warrant reinstalls for
> our project.

I may be repressing but I don't remember ever seeing a real BSOD after
moving from NT 4. I'm not saying Windows 2000 was trouble free but the OS
usually could stagger along.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:00:36 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
>> royalties:
>>> On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 20:49:36 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dissing NT from an intellectual perspective is folly.
>>>
>>> You must admit, the execution fell a bit short of the original
>>> promises.
>>
>> Win NT 3 sucked. Win NT 4 was unstable enough to warrant reinstalls for
>> our project.
>
>I may be repressing but I don't remember ever seeing a real BSOD after
>moving from NT 4. I'm not saying Windows 2000 was trouble free but the OS
>usually could stagger along.

When I got Windows 2000, in the year 2000, it was just a dream. I was
coming from Win98. But today, with openSUSE, I have more stuff than I
had back then, Microsoft has to keep up the pace with our platform,
the vibrant community.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: rbowman
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On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:04:53 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Teach a man a GUI, and he'll keep bugging you for help with other GUIs.
>
> Teach a man to script, and he will help himself.

And then he will bug you for help in repairing the smoking wreckage. Been
there, done that, when some of our operations people developed scripts,
usually in Perl, to automate their tasks. Mostly they worked but when it
went of the rails the support people would ask programming for help with
something we didn't even know existed.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
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On Sun, 25 Aug 2024 15:25:13 -0400, Joel wrote:

> When I got Windows 2000, in the year 2000, it was just a dream. I was
> coming from Win98. But today, with openSUSE, I have more stuff than I
> had back then, Microsoft has to keep up the pace with our platform, the
> vibrant community.

The rate of change or whatever you want to call it has been faster with
Linux distros. Ignoring the releases where Microsoft went down blind
alleys Windows 11 isn't all that different than Windows 2000 despite
requiring more resources. I mean they're finally getting rid of
ControlPanel.

The Red Hat Linux of 2000 was primitive compared to Fedora 40. Remember
Sawfish?

Microsoft has a immense amount of technical debt and has to tread
cautiously. They don't have the luxury of very stable distros like Debian
or more innovative distros where the users are willing to live more
dangerously.

Well, they do, but in their case it's XP, 7, or 10 that they have to move
heaven and hell to pry out of the users' hands.

Subject: Re: I installed openSUSE Leap
From: Farley Flud
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On 25 Aug 2024 20:17:18 GMT, rbowman wrote:

>
> Remember Sawfish?
>

Remember when you stuffed a sausage up your fuckin' asshole?

Haaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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