On Aug 22, 2024 at 11:55:19 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<0hcgcj9uh1cq2qhlre7ggm9p95onav4bqg@4ax.com>:

> On 22 Aug 2024 18:33:23 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:37:52?AM MST, "Joel" wrote
>> <4ptecjpsd52lh2d7oid4huic4lb3l0nnpt@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:16:48?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>> <66c77277$0$1780$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Why isn't cameltoe talking about hers?
>>>>
>>>> You want to talk to a cameltoe?
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't it amazing, how misogynist these lamers are? Even *women*, who
>>> are MAGA, will say "he can grab my pussy any time he wants", and crap.
>>> What happened to this world?
>>
>> "It’s actually much better, because everyone who gets the congressional Medal
>> of Honor, that’s soldiers, they’re either in very bad shape because they’ve
>> been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead."
>>
>> A few years ago that would have been enough to end a presidential bid. Trump
>> does such things often. The Republicans do not care... their whole platform
>> these days is "PWN THE LIBS"... do things to actively harm others.
>
> "Do things to actively harm others." That's MAGA in a nutshell.

Right. They get off on it.

>
> Wes Moore, Governor of Maryland: "I joined the Army when I was 17. In fact, I
> was too young to sign the paperwork so my mom had to sign the paperwork for me
> because I don't have bone spurs."

Damn!

> --
> #NEVERtrump

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Aug 22, 2024 at 11:53:41 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<vbcgcj1c09n1lqmp5rqfdq611c98tn4nr8@4ax.com>:

> On 22 Aug 2024 17:17:26 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:16:48?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <66c77277$0$1780$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> Why isn't cameltoe talking about hers?
>>
>> You want to talk to a cameltoe?
>
> He *is* a cameltoe.
>
> Capitol police Sgt Aquilino Gonell emigrated from the Dominican Republic and
> became a citizen. He served in the US Army in Iraq. On Jan 6, he was beaten
> and blinded. Trump sided with the attackers. "He betrayed us." Five officers
> died as a result of that day.

It really is sickening.
>
> --
> #NEVERtrump

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In article <66c898fa$1$1895500$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:53:17 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <66c87801$1$5671$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> > In article <66c811cf$1$1783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> > brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:28:03 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> >> <9r3gcjdan5ntudlv2pc2mh4spdvjhj44b1@4ax.com>:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:20:02 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> He also cannot explain how 3 weeks ago Harris was against fracking, against
> >>>> offshore oil drilling,
> >>>> against ICE and so forth and now all of a sudden she flip flops. All within a
> >>>> couple of weeks.
> >>>
> >>> It's called "tacking to center". All US politicians in their primaries run to
> >>> the extreme. Dems hard left, Cons extreme right. But in the GENERAL election,
> >>> they tack back to center and that is usually where they govern from.
> >>
> >> This is even assuming the claims are true. My life has been busy and I have
> >> not been closely following things... so maybe it is but I would not trust
> >> Pothead if he told me water was wet.
> >>>
> > Of course. You always deny the truth.
>
> Yet you have no example of my doing so. Meanwhile you insist Fox did not exist
> when Glenn Beck told a lie about global cooling ON FOX NEWS!
>
> How could Fox News not exist when he was on Fox news telling the lie?

It didn't. I was very young when that lie was started. No Fox.

In article <66c89932$1$1895505$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:47:53 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <66c876bc$0$5641$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
> > In article <jdtfcjhl70fcnj8rdm11a1qt01848sadqq@4ax.com>,
> > joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 11:50:43?AM MST, ""Scout"" wrote
> >>> <va81r1$hpqt$12@dont-email.me>:
> >>>> "Snit" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:66c772d3$0$1787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> >>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:15:38?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>>> <66c77230$0$1785$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>>> In article <66c77026$0$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Leave it to a lefty loon to think it can't happen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cite someone who said that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Joel
> >>>
> >>> Message ID?
> >>
> >>
> >> He wants me to prove a negative. :)
> >
> > You have never said what rights will be taken from you.
>
> I have talked about rights taken from Americans. Which was my point. And then
> you moved goal posts.

So what rights will be taken away? You seem to run from that.

In article <66c89def$2$1895497$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 23, 2024 at 12:11:12 AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> <abdgcjh4u9bib5qndjr6c29tvfljaask19@4ax.com>:
>
> > On 22 Aug 2024 23:32:44 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:27:56?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >> <66c7c97d$0$2385540$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>
> >>> In article <66c7c65d$1$1427964$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 1:30:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>> <66c79fdd$0$3068685$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <66c784ba$1$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:29:42 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
> >>>>>> <k8tecjt24kh23eg19blqsuoi8aoe5h835u@4ax.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
> >>>>>>>>>>> find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
> >>>>>>>>>>> boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
> >>>>>>>>>>> who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
> >>>>>>>>>>> have guns, even violent people.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
> >>>>>>>>>> relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
> >>>>>>>>>> it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If we were talking about something that isn't a lethal weapon, I'd be
> >>>>>>>>> more willing to talk about "due process", we need to start acting like
> >>>>>>>>> guns are what they are, instruments of human death. Are there valid
> >>>>>>>>> uses of guns, yes, including self-defense, but someone the police are
> >>>>>>>>> willing to assert is dangerous shouldn't possess them, even for a
> >>>>>>>>> little while. If we can't trust the police to judge this, at least
> >>>>>>>>> initially (there is always time to adjudicate), then we're just
> >>>>>>>>> enabling monsters to commit violent crime.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I understand and empathize with your position but I find it rather extreme.
> >>>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>> fifth and fourteenth amendments apply. Due process, sorry.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You have to realize that guns are not "property" in the same manner
> >>>>>>> that a couch is, or something, they're tools of death, they're
> >>>>>>> regulated. "Due process" really could mean the police making a
> >>>>>>> judgment, at least initially.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "A well regulated militia".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Meaning the people.
> >>>>
> >>>> How are the people "well regulated"?
> >>>
> >>> Fuck with us and find out.
> >>
> >> Good for you to admit that contrary to your many claims I have never "fucked"
> >> with you.
> >
> > I adore this fantasy they have that a few million of them, scattered all across
> > the country can prevail against the United States government.
> >
> > It didn't work when they had their own country and it won't work now.
> >
> >
> > VOTE! Because if you're not at the table, you're on the menu.
> > --
> > #NEVERtrump
>
> Our obsession with guns kills the very people they say they want to protect.

You have an obsession with guns?

In article <66c89e1e$0$5667$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 11:53:41 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> <vbcgcj1c09n1lqmp5rqfdq611c98tn4nr8@4ax.com>:
>
> > On 22 Aug 2024 17:17:26 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:16:48?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >> <66c77277$0$1780$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>
> >>> Why isn't cameltoe talking about hers?
> >>
> >> You want to talk to a cameltoe?
> >
> > He *is* a cameltoe.
> >
> > Capitol police Sgt Aquilino Gonell emigrated from the Dominican Republic and
> > became a citizen. He served in the US Army in Iraq. On Jan 6, he was beaten
> > and blinded. Trump sided with the attackers. "He betrayed us." Five officers
> > died as a result of that day.
>
> It really is sickening.
> >
> > --
Murdering that girl? Yes is is.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ahuecj1pp2bioihk03mevvvqqamfusmvit@4ax.com...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> opened it up to
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> fraud,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone
>>> >> >> >> >> >> else's ballot,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> It's not a joke.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent
>>> >> >> >> voting
>>> >> >> >> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >How do you know?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing
>>> >> >> Trump's
>>> >> >> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
>>> >> >> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
>>> >>
>>> >> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
>>> >> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.
>>> >
>>> >Very easy.
>>>
>>> You are the botnet, I guess, just a drone of Trump's.
>>
>>So you admit I was right.
>
>
> No, I'm saying that you swallow his imaginary evidence, to beLIEve
> that the votes could be fraudulent on that scale.

Except we have cases of Democrats being fraudulent on such a scale.. they
have a history of doing so.

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-chicago

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/06/26/1_in_5_ballots_rejected_as_fraud_is_charged_in_nj_mail-in_election_143551.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/08/22/mail-in-voting-civil-war-election-conspiracy-lincoln/?outputType=amp

Further, how can you know what the scale is unless you actually look into it
and work to prevent it?

Oh, that's right.. you claim fraud doesn't count UNTIL it is too later.

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4dbgcj50lbof4gi2qdp0s1vte683d0g63c@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:12:58 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,
>>
>>Sure it is. Once they have the ballot, there is nothing to keep them from
>>filling it out.
>
> Plenty to stop it being counted.

What? People tell us exactly how they determine who signed it..

>
>>> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>
>>Who does? How do they do so?
>
> That has been specifically laid out time and time again.

Then it should be very easy for you to show us again.

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:n06gcjt2jvlu7ks6hs5ef2a86op1hstlic@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:24:34 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:hlmecjt9cmbu6jplr184iucao4jpgg6kgs@4ax.com...
>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it
>>>>> >> >> up
>>>>> >> >> to
>>>>> >> >> fraud,
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's
>>>>> >> ballot,
>>>>> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not a joke.
>>>>
>>>>It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
>>> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>>
>>Ok.. PROVE IT.
>
> It is axiomatic that you can't prove a negative.

Then you can't prove that fraudulent voting isn't a problem..

meanwhile.. here is a listing of just some of what we know about.

How much goes unknown is the real mystery.. but apparently according to Joel
it should be ignored until it's been proven to have altered elections.. sort
of a bit late.

https://hereistheevidence.com/

Now tell us that election fraud isn't an issue and should just be ignored.

I also have a case in Chicago were 10% of the vote cast was shown to have
been fraudulent.

How many close elections would 10% swing?

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:09bgcjd9tjpvc5ken8oogudca0284ti3h7@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:24:34 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>Ok.. PROVE IT.
>
> Prove your election fraud claim that the outcome of the election was
> changed.
>
> Go ahead. We'll wait.

https://decaturish.com/2022/06/breaking-hand-count-in-district-2-dekalb-commission-race-changes-runoff-picture/

What would have happened.. if it had been purely electronic?

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ck5gcjlrakg18qpr0kq090r1jf4sl8khb0@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:30:36 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:o5oecj984n339rsldv12b3tekglth4ddgg@4ax.com...
>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened
>>>>> >> >> >> it
>>>>> >> >> >> up to
>>>>> >> >> >> fraud,
>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's
>>>>> >> >> ballot,
>>>>> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It's not a joke.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
>>>>> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>>>>
>>>>How do you know?
>>>
>>>
>>> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
>>> lie.
>>
>>Excellent. Please present that information so that we can look at it and
>>determine exactly how much election fraud was committed and how it was
>>proven that there wasn't enough to change the outcome.
>
> How about I present this instead?
>
> ....................../´¯/)
> ....................,/¯../
> .................../..../
> ............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
> ........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\
> ........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...')
> .........\.................'...../
> ..........''...\.......... _.·´
> ............\..............(
> ..............\.............\...

So you got nothing.... so much for your claim of looking at the information.

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:66c87884$2$5643$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <ck5gcjlrakg18qpr0kq090r1jf4sl8khb0@4ax.com>,
> governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:30:36 -0500, "Scout"
>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:o5oecj984n339rsldv12b3tekglth4ddgg@4ax.com...
>> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots
>> >>>> >> >> >> opened it
>> >>>> >> >> >> up to
>> >>>> >> >> >> fraud,
>> >>>> >> >> >
>> >>>> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's
>> >>>> >> >> ballot,
>> >>>> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> It's not a joke.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent
>> >>>> voting
>> >>>> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>> >>>
>> >>>How do you know?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
>> >> lie.
>> >
>> >Excellent. Please present that information so that we can look at it and
>> >determine exactly how much election fraud was committed and how it was
>> >proven that there wasn't enough to change the outcome.
>>
>> How about I present this instead?
>>
>> ....................../?¯/)
>> ....................,/¯../
>> .................../..../
>> ............./?¯/'...'/?¯¯`·?
>> ........../'/.../..../......./?¯\
>> ........('(...?...?.... ¯~/'...')
>> .........\.................'...../
>> ..........''...\.......... _.·?
>> ............\..............(
>> ..............\.............\...
>
> The answer you get when they can't refute.

yep.. notice how they demand cites but refuse to produce their own.

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:gp5gcjl2aid0v6iehgn1ajb452mrnn69it@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:41:48 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:66c76a9d$0$1784$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>> In article <o5oecj984n339rsldv12b3tekglth4ddgg@4ax.com>,
>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots
>>>> >> >> >> >> opened
>>>> >> >> >> >> it up to
>>>> >> >> >> >> fraud,
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's
>>>> >> >> >> ballot,
>>>> >> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> It's not a joke.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent
>>>> >> voting
>>>> >> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>>>> >
>>>> >How do you know?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
>>>> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
>>>> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
>>>> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
>>>
>>> It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
>>
>>Here's an interesting case:
>>
>>https://www.foxnews.com/politics/voter-fraud-california-man-finds-dozens-of-ballots-stacked-outside-home
>>
>>But we're told this is 'unimportant' that evidence of mass fraud doesn't
>>count according to Joel until someone PROVES it alter the election.
>>
>>Then of course, we have attempts like this, which we're told to ignore
>>until
>>AFTER it has been shown to have changed an election.... and be PROVEN to
>>have done so.
>>
>>https://abc13.com/texas-vote-by-mail-fraud-ken-paxton-in-ballot-gregg-county-commission-arrested/6544331/
>
>
> "Iowa official's wife convicted of 52 counts of voter fraud in
> ballot-stuffing
> scheme"
> <https://apnews.com/article/iowa-ballot-box-stuffing-18432099d65be5e95aa5e5cd83b589e1>

Super, now that we both agree that election fraud DOES take place.. why
shouldn't we do anything about it?

>>Indeed, I wonder if Joel is aware that the BIGGEST case of election fraud
>>in
>>US history was done by Democrats?
>>
>>Heck, here's another one by Democrats that was so bad that it represented
>>about 10% of the ballots cast
>>
>>https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-chicago
>
> You dare to use the Heritage Foundation as a reference for ANYTHING??

because it refutes your stupid ass.. and you apparently can't refute that
either.

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:n25gcjls5lhss0kg1j74ll7g0hf9k8cou0@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:50:04 -0500, "Scout" wrote:
> <snip>
>>> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
>>> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.
>>
>>Actually, it's quite easy..
>>
>>Case in point.
>>
>>https://www.foxnews.com/politics/voter-fraud-california-man-finds-dozens-of-ballots-stacked-outside-home
>
> LOL! This wasn't fraud! It was a lazy mail carrier! You'll buy
> *anything*
> with Trump's name on it.

How exactly does a lazy mail carrier deliver that many ballots with the SAME
ADDRESS to the the address they were posted to????

"The 83 ballots, each unused, were addressed to different people, all
supposedly living in his elderly neighbor's two-bedroom apartment."

You wanted proof.. then couldn't even be bothered to read it when presented.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:jdtfcjhl70fcnj8rdm11a1qt01848sadqq@4ax.com...
> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>On Aug 22, 2024 at 11:50:43?AM MST, ""Scout"" wrote
>><va81r1$hpqt$12@dont-email.me>:
>>> "Snit" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:66c772d3$0$1787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:15:38?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>> <66c77230$0$1785$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>> In article <66c77026$0$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leave it to a lefty loon to think it can't happen.
>>>>
>>>> Cite someone who said that.
>>>
>>> Joel
>>
>>Message ID?
>
>
> He wants me to prove a negative. :)

So you admit you had no basis for your claim then?

On Aug 23, 2024 at 8:02:28 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<66c8a485$0$212408$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <66c898fa$1$1895500$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:53:17 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <66c87801$1$5671$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> In article <66c811cf$1$1783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:28:03 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>> <9r3gcjdan5ntudlv2pc2mh4spdvjhj44b1@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:20:02 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> He also cannot explain how 3 weeks ago Harris was against fracking, against
>>>>>> offshore oil drilling,
>>>>>> against ICE and so forth and now all of a sudden she flip flops. All within a
>>>>>> couple of weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's called "tacking to center". All US politicians in their primaries run to
>>>>> the extreme. Dems hard left, Cons extreme right. But in the GENERAL election,
>>>>> they tack back to center and that is usually where they govern from.
>>>>
>>>> This is even assuming the claims are true. My life has been busy and I have
>>>> not been closely following things... so maybe it is but I would not trust
>>>> Pothead if he told me water was wet.
>>>>>
>>> Of course. You always deny the truth.
>>
>> Yet you have no example of my doing so. Meanwhile you insist Fox did not exist
>> when Glenn Beck told a lie about global cooling ON FOX NEWS!
>>
>> How could Fox News not exist when he was on Fox news telling the lie?
>
> It didn't. I was very young when that lie was started. No Fox.

Glenn Beck, of Fox News, told the lie about Newsweek sharing a story in 1975
about a coming ice age and presented it as if this was the mainstream
scientific view (2 Sept 2009).

There was a story about global cooling, but:
-----
the article did not state the cause of cooling; it stated that "what causes
the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery" and cited the NAS
conclusion that "not only are the basic scientific questions largely
unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key
questions."
----
Even if they story had made other claims, this would not suggest it was
supported by any scientific consensus. Fox lied.

As far as I know that is the origin of the lie. To say Fox did not exist when
Beck told that lie ON FOX NEWS is absurd.

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On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:49:28 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<66c8bd7f$0$1428124$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <66c8accb$0$2760$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 8:33:03 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <66c8abaf$0$3620715$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> In article <66c8a5c7$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 8:02:28 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>> <66c8a485$0$212408$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <66c898fa$1$1895500$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 23, 2024 at 4:53:17 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>>> <66c87801$1$5671$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <66c811cf$1$1783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:28:03 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>>>>>> <9r3gcjdan5ntudlv2pc2mh4spdvjhj44b1@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:20:02 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He also cannot explain how 3 weeks ago Harris was against fracking, against
>>>>>>>>>> offshore oil drilling,
>>>>>>>>>> against ICE and so forth and now all of a sudden she flip flops. All within a
>>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's called "tacking to center". All US politicians in their primaries run to
>>>>>>>>> the extreme. Dems hard left, Cons extreme right. But in the GENERAL election,
>>>>>>>>> they tack back to center and that is usually where they govern from.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is even assuming the claims are true. My life has been busy and I have
>>>>>>>> not been closely following things... so maybe it is but I would not trust
>>>>>>>> Pothead if he told me water was wet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course. You always deny the truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet you have no example of my doing so. Meanwhile you insist Fox did not exist
>>>>>> when Glenn Beck told a lie about global cooling ON FOX NEWS!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How could Fox News not exist when he was on Fox news telling the lie?
>>>>>
>>>>> It didn't. I was very young when that lie was started. No Fox.
>>>>
>>>> Glenn Beck, of Fox News, told the lie about Newsweek sharing a story in 1975
>>>> about a coming ice age and presented it as if this was the mainstream
>>>> scientific view (2 Sept 2009).
>>>>
>>>> There was a story about global cooling, but:
>>>> -----
>>>> the article did not state the cause of cooling; it stated that "what causes
>>>> the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery" and cited the NAS
>>>> conclusion that "not only are the basic scientific questions largely
>>>> unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key
>>>> questions."
>>>> ----
>>>> Even if they story had made other claims, this would not suggest it was
>>>> supported by any scientific consensus. Fox lied.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know that is the origin of the lie. To say Fox did not exist when
>>>> Beck told that lie ON FOX NEWS is absurd.
>>>
>>> Fox didn't exist when the lie came out.
>>
>> Who do you think told the lie you parroted before them?
>
> Answered many times already. You know you are wrong so you resort to
> this.

Who do you think told the lie you parroted before them?

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In article <vaacgp$v02v$6@dont-email.me>, noway@nowhere.com says...
>
> On 8/23/2024 9:10 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vaaaj5$v02v$4@dont-email.me>, noway@nowhere.com says...
> >>
> >> On 8/23/2024 8:31 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>
> >>> of citizenship to vote. It's about time. Now the rest need to follow
> >>> suit.
> >>
> >> SCOTUS allowed Arizona's law that requires proof of citizenship to
> >> register to vote to remain in effect while the law is challenged in
> >> court. At the same time, SCOTUS did not allow that part of the law which
> >> requires proof of citizenship to vote to go into effect.
> >>
> >> Alito, Gorsuch and Thomas would have allowed the entire law to remain in
> >> effect. Kagan, Sotomayor, Jackson and Barrett would have stopped the
> >> entire law from going into effect. Roberts and Kavanaugh split the baby,
> >> voting in the majority on both aspects.
> >>
> >> And again, none of this was a ruling on the merits.
> >
> > ID proof or no vote. As it should be.
>
> WTF is wrong with you? I just said Arizona is not allowed to enforce its
> law that requires proof of citizenship in order to vote.

They will be. I just watched it you moron. ID for all voters as it
should be.

On 23 Aug 2024 15:07:51 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>Glenn Beck, of Fox News, told the lie about Newsweek sharing a story in 1975
>about a coming ice age and presented it as if this was the mainstream
>scientific view (2 Sept 2009).
>
>There was a story about global cooling, but:
>-----
>the article did not state the cause of cooling; it stated that "what causes
>the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery" and cited the NAS
>conclusion that "not only are the basic scientific questions largely
>unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key
>questions."
>----
>Even if they story had made other claims, this would not suggest it was
>supported by any scientific consensus. Fox lied.
>
>As far as I know that is the origin of the lie. To say Fox did not exist when
>Beck told that lie ON FOX NEWS is absurd.

Global cooling was indeed an issue in the Seventies though briefly and little
research was being done.

The concept was that sulphur, unburned hydrocarbons and other combustion
byproducts were rising high in the atmosphere and reflecting sunlight.

Later, as the air became cleaner, the truth of warming began to be discovered.

All the bathrooms on airplanes are gender neutral. So ... that must be why
Republicans are always shitting their pants when they fly.

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On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 14:21:36 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>Actually Joe Biden did the opposite. He has always been slightly left of center which is what he
>ran on. However once elected he went far left in fact extremely far left and the country has been
>in a downward spiral ever since.

Only looks that way to you because you're so far right.

After evacuating Russian villagers, Russian soldiers are looting their homes.
<https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1823003072177553458>

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On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 14:14:51 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>"Person: Doesn't that blade of grass over there look like it's red?
>Snit: Define red.
>Person: Red, you know, like a fire engine.
>Snit: Fire engines where I live are yellow.
>Person: Ok, red like blood.
>Snit: Blood isn't really red.
>Person: Sigh, ok, red like a red rose.
>Snit: What kind of rose?
>Person: I don't know, a fucking red rose.
>Snit: Why are you getting vulgar with me?
>Person: Because you are an idiot.
>Snit: You attack me because you have nothing to say.
>Person: I've been trying to say something to you for two days now.
>You don't listen.
>Snit: Define something.
>Person: Are you some kind of asshole?
>Snit: Why are you attacking me.
>Person: I'm tired of playing your idiotic game.
>Snit: You ran away. I won.
>Person: dead silence.

Snit really *is* giving you a boner, isn't he?

"Old Habits Die Hard – Russian Troops Loot Abandoned Villages in Kursk"
<https://www.kyivpost.com/post/37323>

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On 23 Aug 2024 04:36:50 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:23:48?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
><3l3gcj1mb07s3dqmdtc1r524n5okdlbknm@4ax.com>:
>
>> On 22 Aug 2024 17:06:47 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
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>
>I sometimes wonder if they know what they reveal with their comments.

I don't think so. One of the reasons they dislike giving cites is because so
often their cites prove them wrong. So, rather than actually read cites and use
those which best suit their position, the whine and babble that they're right
and don't need any proof.

"As Ukrainian forces advance in the Kursk region, law and order in frontline
Russian-held areas is reported to have collapsed completely. "Rampant looting"
is said have broken out – being done by the Russians themselves – while local
residents say they feel abandoned."
<https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1822953065940406661>

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On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:06:26 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:sjbgcjh4fhhovo35f02cm684uhla5foda5@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:52:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>news:va7o94$g5f1$3@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>
>>>> 1. Trump needs to destroy Kamala in the debates which we all know
>>>> will be biased in favor of Kamala.
>>>
>>>
>>> You really think Trump won't
>>>chicken out of yet another debate?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>2. Trump needs to hammer home the mess
>>>> 3.5 years of Biden/Kamala have made.
>>>
>>>
>>> You mean the rising stock market,
>>>the millions of new jobs created, the
>>>"help wanted" signs everywhere, the
>>>falling unemployment, the growers and
>>>construction firm begging illegals NOT
>>>to leave?
>>
>> Turns out the following is true. Since Poppy Bush was inaugurated,
>> Republican Presidents have added 1 million new jobs, Democrats 50
>> million. Add to this that all three Republicans ended their terms in
>> an economic downturn and all three Democrats left behind a boom.
>>
>> "I didn't believe this, so I triple checked it. Since the end of the
>> Cold War, America has created 51 million new jobs. So, what's the
>> score? Democrats 50, Republicans 1." - Bill Clinton
>>
>> WAPO fact check: "Bureau of Labor Statistics data show that nearly 50
>> million jobs were created from November 1989 [when the Berlin wall
>> fell] through July of this year.
>>
>> By starting during George H.W. Bush’s term, Clinton skips over Ronald
>> Reagan, a Republican who oversaw the creation of 16 million jobs.
>> Instead, the period covered by his statistic included three
>> Republicans — Bush, his son George W. Bush and Trump — who had poor
>> jobs records.
>>
>> About 1 million jobs were created from November 1989 to the end of the
>> first Bush term, 1.4 million under his son, and then a negative 2.7
>> million under Trump (because of the pandemic). All three Republicans
>> ended their terms with the country in economic downturns."
>>
>> "By contrast, 22.9 million jobs were created under Clinton, 11.6
>> million under Barack Obama and 15.8 million under President Joe
>> Biden."
>
>
> And according to Trump every one
>of those jobs was given to an illegal.
>
>

Except for the lazy ones that come here for all the freebies.

"So, illegal immigrants are coming here to take all our jobs *and* they're too
lazy to work.

"Got it."

"A Russian soldier captured by Ukraine recorded himself looting an abandoned
house in the Kursk region."
<https://x.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1823003072177553458>
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On 23 Aug 2024 14:35:16 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 22, 2024 at 11:55:19?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
><0hcgcj9uh1cq2qhlre7ggm9p95onav4bqg@4ax.com>:
>
>> On 22 Aug 2024 18:33:23 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:37:52?AM MST, "Joel" wrote
>>> <4ptecjpsd52lh2d7oid4huic4lb3l0nnpt@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:16:48?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>> <66c77277$0$1780$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why isn't cameltoe talking about hers?
>>>>>
>>>>> You want to talk to a cameltoe?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't it amazing, how misogynist these lamers are? Even *women*, who
>>>> are MAGA, will say "he can grab my pussy any time he wants", and crap.
>>>> What happened to this world?
>>>
>>> "It?s actually much better, because everyone who gets the congressional Medal
>>> of Honor, that?s soldiers, they?re either in very bad shape because they?ve
>>> been hit so many times by bullets, or they?re dead."
>>>
>>> A few years ago that would have been enough to end a presidential bid. Trump
>>> does such things often. The Republicans do not care... their whole platform
>>> these days is "PWN THE LIBS"... do things to actively harm others.
>>
>> "Do things to actively harm others." That's MAGA in a nutshell.
>
>Right. They get off on it.
>
>>
>> Wes Moore, Governor of Maryland: "I joined the Army when I was 17. In fact, I
>> was too young to sign the paperwork so my mom had to sign the paperwork for me
>> because I don't have bone spurs."
>
>Damn!

It was the best party convention I've ever seen in my life. Lots of excitement
and enthusiasm. Smiling faces everywhere. They know their enemy is weak but
can be treacherous.

"Ukraine Reportedly Digging Trenches in Kursk – Here For the Long Haul?"
<https://www.kyivpost.com/post/37252>
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 13:08:06 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:8qcgcj5cfieo28q09j9e6dakff3nkohiuu@4ax.com:
>
>>
>> "When they said it would take 11 months to reopen the port of
>> Baltimore, we got it done in 11 weeks." -- Wes Moore, Governor of
>> Maryland
>
>
> Thanks to union workers.
>

DNC update: Lots of union support at the convention.

Shawn Fain, President UAW: I want to say thank you to Joe Biden for making
history by walking the picket line with the UAW.

This election comes down to one question: which side are you on? On one side we
have Kamala Harris and Tim Walz who have stood shoulder to shoulder with the
working class. On the other side, we have Trump and Vance, two lap dogs for the
billionaire class who only serve themselves.

Kamala Harris is one of us and Donald Trump is a scab. When our workers went
out on strike against GM for 40 days, Trump did nothing. You know who rubbed
shoulders with us in the picket line? Kamala Harris.

Fain wore a "TRUMP IS A SCAB" tshirt.

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