On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:37:52 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
<4ptecjpsd52lh2d7oid4huic4lb3l0nnpt@4ax.com>:

> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:16:48?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <66c77277$0$1780$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> Why isn't cameltoe talking about hers?
>>
>> You want to talk to a cameltoe?
>
>
> Isn't it amazing, how misogynist these lamers are? Even *women*, who
> are MAGA, will say "he can grab my pussy any time he wants", and crap.
> What happened to this world?

"It’s actually much better, because everyone who gets the congressional Medal
of Honor, that’s soldiers, they’re either in very bad shape because they’ve
been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead."

A few years ago that would have been enough to end a presidential bid. Trump
does such things often. The Republicans do not care... their whole platform
these days is "PWN THE LIBS"... do things to actively harm others.

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On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:29:42 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
<k8tecjt24kh23eg19blqsuoi8aoe5h835u@4ax.com>:

> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
>>>>> find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
>>>>> boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
>>>>> who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
>>>>> have guns, even violent people.
>>>>
>>>> No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
>>>> relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
>>>> it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.
>>>
>>> If we were talking about something that isn't a lethal weapon, I'd be
>>> more willing to talk about "due process", we need to start acting like
>>> guns are what they are, instruments of human death. Are there valid
>>> uses of guns, yes, including self-defense, but someone the police are
>>> willing to assert is dangerous shouldn't possess them, even for a
>>> little while. If we can't trust the police to judge this, at least
>>> initially (there is always time to adjudicate), then we're just
>>> enabling monsters to commit violent crime.
>>
>> I understand and empathize with your position but I find it rather extreme.
>> The
>> fifth and fourteenth amendments apply. Due process, sorry.
>
>
> You have to realize that guns are not "property" in the same manner
> that a couch is, or something, they're tools of death, they're
> regulated. "Due process" really could mean the police making a
> judgment, at least initially.

"A well regulated militia".

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On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:26:00 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<66c774a9$0$3068689$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <66c772d3$0$1787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:15:38 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <66c77230$0$1785$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> In article <66c77026$0$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:06:46 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>> <66c77027$0$212416$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <ehrecjhb5g9eb27fbhuh73dptf2lon9rmq@4ax.com>,
>>>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fraud,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL What a fucking joke.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a joke.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
>>>>>>>>>> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you know?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
>>>>>>>> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
>>>>>>>> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
>>>>>>>> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
>>>>>> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very easy.
>>>>
>>>> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
>>>
>>> Leave it to a lefty loon to think it can't happen.
>>
>> Cite someone who said that.
>
> As soon as you cite who said you were going to lose all those rights.

All?

But why not learn what Trump and the Republicans are doing? Hell, Trump was
bragging about harming equal rights for women until he realized how much that
was coming back to bite him.

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pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:va7hji$f7q9$1@dont-email.me:

> On 2024-08-22, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <kjgecjlcm4imt9o11lpd8vpl5n4svf8spv@4ax.com>,
>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:03:42 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
>>> >wrote:
>>> >>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>So you are against the police and law and order?
>>> >>
>>> >>No, and neither is Harris and Walz, Trump doesn't get to claim
>>> >>ownership of that while *he* is the one having multiple felony
>>> >>cases against him.
>>> >
>>> >Harris, as a prosecutor, took on everybody from transnational gangs
>>> >to the big banks.
>>> >
>>> >Trump is scared shitless of her.
>>> >
>>> >Several Republicans spoke at the DNC.
>>> >Jeff Duncan, former Georgia Lieutenant Governor "I am a
>>> >Republican, but today I stand here as an American." "We had armed
>>> >officers outside our house protecting us from OTHER REPUBLICANS."
>>>
>>>
>>> And people can't see what's before their very eyes, yes, they keep
>>> defending Trump.
>>
>> I watched for the last 3 days what's about to come. It's scary.
>>
>>
>> DNC = TRUMP
>
> It's frightening.
> And notice how the demons attack Trump's character, personality, age,
> etc, Anything but talking about Trump's "failed policies". That's
> because they can't.

How did Trump's "and Mexico will pay for it"
policy work out?

How did Trump's "I will eliminate the entire
national debt" work out?

How did Trump's "I will only appoint the best
and the brightest" work out?

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:va7o94$g5f1$3@dont-email.me:

> 1. Trump needs to destroy Kamala in the debates which we all know will
> be biased in favor of Kamala.

You really think Trump won't
chicken out of yet another debate?

2. Trump needs to hammer home the mess
> 3.5 years of Biden/Kamala have made.

You mean the rising stock market,
the millions of new jobs created, the
"help wanted" signs everywhere, the
falling unemployment, the growers and
construction firm begging illegals NOT
to leave?

Republicans Urge Immigrants to Stay in Florida
Jun 05, 2023

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-urge-immigrants-stay-florida-fearing-
new-laws-impact-1804640

Florida GOP lawmaker says the anti-
immigration law he backed is causing
a 'major problem' as migrant families
are leaving the state
Jun 6, 2023

https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-gop-lawmaker-urges-immigrants-stay-
voted-anti-immigration-bill-2023-6

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:pbgecjhp67f2rt2745b6966iffqiml4lhj@4ax.com...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
>>> fraud,
>>
>>It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>
>
> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,

Sure it is. Once they have the ballot, there is nothing to keep them from
filling it out.

> they verify them as they're processed and counted.

Who does? How do they do so?

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:72kecjd104vnjdvm1q8pi86jadqqvkuucs@4ax.com...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
>>> >> fraud,
>>> >
>>> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>>
>>> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,
>>> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>
>>LOL What a fucking joke.
>
>
> It's not a joke.

Oh, you were serious?

That's even more of a joke then.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hlmecjt9cmbu6jplr184iucao4jpgg6kgs@4ax.com...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> fraud,
>>> >> >
>>> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>> >>
>>> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,
>>> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>> >
>>> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>>>
>>> It's not a joke.
>>
>>It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>
>
> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.

Ok.. PROVE IT.

Further, it would seem to be your implication that election fraud is
perfectly acceptable and should be ignored UNTIL and UNLESS it can be PROVEN
to have altered election results.. IOW, we are suppose to take it as a
matter of faith that election fraud doesn't count unless you can PROVE it
made a difference.

Yep, according to Joel, commit all the election fraud you want, may the best
cheater win as long as they can avoid being caught....

Sounds like something you might find in some 3rd world country with a
corrupt government.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:o5oecj984n339rsldv12b3tekglth4ddgg@4ax.com...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it
>>> >> >> >> up to
>>> >> >> >> fraud,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's
>>> >> >> ballot,
>>> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's not a joke.
>>> >
>>> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>>>
>>> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
>>> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>>
>>How do you know?
>
>
> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
> lie.

Excellent. Please present that information so that we can look at it and
determine exactly how much election fraud was committed and how it was
proven that there wasn't enough to change the outcome.

> There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.

And yet, we have cases of back dated post marks being applied to such
ballots.
Signatures that don't match.
The names of the signatures don't match the name of the person who the
ballot was made for.
Ballots being sent to people who were either long time dead, or totally
phony.
Multiple ballots being spend in by the same 'voter'
Ballot harvesting

But all that is meaningless according to Joel until and unless someone can
PROVE it altered the election.

So Joel, to be clear you're suggesting that the election should go to the
party that can cheat enough to change the outcome and not be caught at it?

"Skeeter" <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in message
news:66c76a9d$0$1784$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> In article <o5oecj984n339rsldv12b3tekglth4ddgg@4ax.com>,
> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened
>> >> >> >> >> it up to
>> >> >> >> >> fraud,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's
>> >> >> >> ballot,
>> >> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's not a joke.
>> >> >
>> >> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>> >>
>> >> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
>> >> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>> >
>> >How do you know?
>>
>>
>> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
>> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
>> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
>> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
>
> It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.

Here's an interesting case:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/voter-fraud-california-man-finds-dozens-of-ballots-stacked-outside-home

But we're told this is 'unimportant' that evidence of mass fraud doesn't
count according to Joel until someone PROVES it alter the election.

Then of course, we have attempts like this, which we're told to ignore until
AFTER it has been shown to have changed an election.... and be PROVEN to
have done so.

https://abc13.com/texas-vote-by-mail-fraud-ken-paxton-in-ballot-gregg-county-commission-arrested/6544331/

Indeed, I wonder if Joel is aware that the BIGGEST case of election fraud in
US history was done by Democrats?

Heck, here's another one by Democrats that was so bad that it represented
about 10% of the ballots cast

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/report/where-theres-smoke-theres-fire-100000-stolen-votes-chicago

But again.. according to Joel fraud even on this scale is immaterial and
nothing should be done about it unless it can be proven such fraud actually
changed the outcome.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ehrecjhb5g9eb27fbhuh73dptf2lon9rmq@4ax.com...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened
>>> >> >> >> >> it up to
>>> >> >> >> >> fraud,
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's
>>> >> >> >> ballot,
>>> >> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> It's not a joke.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>>> >>
>>> >> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
>>> >> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>>> >
>>> >How do you know?
>>>
>>> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
>>> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
>>> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
>>> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
>>
>>It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
>
>
> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.

Actually, it's quite easy..

Case in point.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/voter-fraud-california-man-finds-dozens-of-ballots-stacked-outside-home

Then we have issues like this one from the 2020 election.

https://nationalfile.com/suspicious-late-night-va-ballot-drop-accounts-for-73-of-all-biden-votes-in-fairfax-county/

However, according to Joel, election fraud doesn't matter as long as you're
not caught.

"Snit" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:66c772d3$0$1787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:15:38 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <66c77230$0$1785$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> In article <66c77026$0$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:06:46 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>> <66c77027$0$212416$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> In article <ehrecjhb5g9eb27fbhuh73dptf2lon9rmq@4ax.com>,
>>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it up to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fraud,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ballot,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL What a fucking joke.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a joke.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent
>>>>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>>>> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you know?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
>>>>>>> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
>>>>>>> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
>>>>>>> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
>>>>> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.
>>>>
>>>> Very easy.
>>>
>>> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
>>
>> Leave it to a lefty loon to think it can't happen.
>
> Cite someone who said that.

Joel

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:n2tecj5fbtam8m8ue08hjrsb9fl795hqsu@4ax.com...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots
>>> >> >> >> >> >> opened it up to
>>> >> >> >> >> >> fraud,
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone
>>> >> >> >> >> else's ballot,
>>> >> >> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> It's not a joke.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent
>>> >> >> voting
>>> >> >> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >How do you know?
>>> >>
>>> >> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
>>> >> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
>>> >> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
>>> >> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
>>> >
>>> >It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
>>>
>>> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
>>> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.
>>
>>Very easy.
>
>
> You are the botnet, I guess, just a drone of Trump's.

And just like that, Joel waves the white flag.

[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:

>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>>>>> you expose yourself as an NRA asshole, wanting to protect violent
>>>>>>>gun owners. Fuck your guns. Fuck violence. You're an ignorant,
>>>>>>>redneck CRACKER.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ROFLMAO
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You forgot ARMED redneck cracker. And you aren't.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not qualified to own a gun, I'm a diagnosed schizophrenic who's
>>>>>had a suicide attempt some time ago.
>>>>
>>>>Too bad. Your failure, I mean.
>>>
>>>Speaking of "failure",
>>
>>Yes, we were speaking of you. If you ever need any pointers on how to
>>get it right the next time, let me know.
>
>
>Go fuck yourself, boomer cracker asshole, psychotic gun owner, retard.
>You are a mistake of evolution, the self-evidence of white
>supremacy-ism's lie. You're the spawn of the devil.

Pretty funny coming from the nutcase homo who thinks he's Jesus.

[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:

>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>In article <pugecjhbjgf3ujvi0vllcvnatpum1087a0@4ax.com>,
>>joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>>>>> you expose yourself as an NRA asshole, wanting to protect violent
>>> >>>>>>gun owners. Fuck your guns. Fuck violence. You're an ignorant,
>>> >>>>>>redneck CRACKER.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>ROFLMAO
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>You forgot ARMED redneck cracker. And you aren't.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>I'm not qualified to own a gun, I'm a diagnosed schizophrenic who's
>>> >>>>had a suicide attempt some time ago.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Too bad. Your failure, I mean.
>>> >>
>>> >>Speaking of "failure",
>>> >
>>> >Yes, we were speaking of you. If you ever need any pointers on how to
>>> >get it right the next time, let me know.
>>>
>>> Go fuck yourself, boomer cracker asshole, psychotic gun owner, retard.
>>> You are a mistake of evolution, the self-evidence of white
>>> supremacy-ism's lie. You're the spawn of the devil.
>>
>>I love it when you get all upset. You stomp your feet and your racism
>>comes out.
>
>
>And yet you have nothing to say about Klaus's abusiveness, because
>you're not really interested in consistent critique, merely taking
>potshots.

ABUSIVENESS?!?!?!?!?!

ANd here I was just trying to help you out.

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> You really think Trump won't
> chicken out of yet another debate?

You misspelled Commiela.

Ya rancid cornholer.

Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co> wrote:

>> It's OK to hate me
>
>I think it may be mandatory.

But I'm doing something of major consequence. It makes up for my
faults, which I've begun to truly overcome, anyway, they're in the
past.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> How did Trump's "I will only appoint the best
> and the brightest" work out?

How does the Senior Executive Service still exist, cornholer?

Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>"It’s actually much better, because everyone who gets the congressional Medal
>of Honor, that’s soldiers, they’re either in very bad shape because they’ve
>been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead."
>
>A few years ago that would have been enough to end a presidential bid. Trump
>does such things often. The Republicans do not care... their whole platform
>these days is "PWN THE LIBS"... do things to actively harm others.

The rules don't exist, for him, and yet he's proclaiming to be the
candidate of law and order, while running against a prosecuting
attorney, as a felon. Just wow.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
wrote:

>>Go fuck yourself, boomer cracker asshole, psychotic gun owner, retard.
>>You are a mistake of evolution, the self-evidence of white
>>supremacy-ism's lie. You're the spawn of the devil.
>
>Pretty funny coming from the nutcase homo who thinks he's Jesus.

I don't think I am, I really am.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Go fuck yourself, boomer cracker asshole, psychotic gun owner, retard.
>>> You are a mistake of evolution, the self-evidence of white
>>> supremacy-ism's lie. You're the spawn of the devil.
>>
>> Pretty funny coming from the nutcase homo who thinks he's Jesus.
>
>
> I don't think I am, I really am.
>
you can't be because i'm god and i would know

[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:

>Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>>Go fuck yourself, boomer cracker asshole, psychotic gun owner, retard.
>>>You are a mistake of evolution, the self-evidence of white
>>>supremacy-ism's lie. You're the spawn of the devil.
>>
>>Pretty funny coming from the nutcase homo who thinks he's Jesus.
>
>
>I don't think I am, I really am.

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Rudy Canoza wrote:
> [Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Go fuck yourself, boomer cracker asshole, psychotic gun owner, retard.
>>>> You are a mistake of evolution, the self-evidence of white
>>>> supremacy-ism's lie. You're the spawn of the devil.
>>>
>>> Pretty funny coming from the nutcase homo who thinks he's Jesus.
>>
>>
>> I don't think I am, I really am.
>
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> Is where I’ll suck on your hard bone
> Fellatio done with your consent
> It won’t cost you one red cent
> I gobble cock all day for free!
> Why, you can even sodomize me!
> I’ll make you scream like a banshee
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> You’ll find me there 'most every night
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In article <ahuecj1pp2bioihk03mevvvqqamfusmvit@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> fraud,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> It's not a joke.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
> >> >> >> >> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >How do you know?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
> >> >> >> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
> >> >> >> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
> >> >> >> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
> >> >>
> >> >> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
> >> >> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.
> >> >
> >> >Very easy.
> >>
> >> You are the botnet, I guess, just a drone of Trump's.
> >
> >So you admit I was right.
>
>
> No, I'm saying that you swallow his imaginary evidence, to beLIEve
> that the votes could be fraudulent on that scale.

They can be very easily.

In article <k8tecjt24kh23eg19blqsuoi8aoe5h835u@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
> >>>>find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
> >>>>boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
> >>>>who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
> >>>>have guns, even violent people.
> >>>
> >>>No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
> >>>relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
> >>>it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.
> >>
> >>If we were talking about something that isn't a lethal weapon, I'd be
> >>more willing to talk about "due process", we need to start acting like
> >>guns are what they are, instruments of human death. Are there valid
> >>uses of guns, yes, including self-defense, but someone the police are
> >>willing to assert is dangerous shouldn't possess them, even for a
> >>little while. If we can't trust the police to judge this, at least
> >>initially (there is always time to adjudicate), then we're just
> >>enabling monsters to commit violent crime.
> >
> >I understand and empathize with your position but I find it rather extreme. The
> >fifth and fourteenth amendments apply. Due process, sorry.
>
>
> You have to realize that guns are not "property" in the same manner
> that a couch is, or something, they're tools of death, they're
> regulated. "Due process" really could mean the police making a
> judgment, at least initially.

Nope. The judge has to make a warrant.