On 2025-01-11 08:35, chrisv wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>
>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>
>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>
> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
> the ability.

They would slaughter every Christian too because, as we know, we are
infidels and must be either killed, enslaved or taxed. All of this is
because neither Jews nor Christians accepted Muhammad as a prophet in
the 7th century. His being ridiculed back then means that we all have to
die.

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Gab: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:22:56 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no
> good side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving
> children (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of
> the two sides.

I had a friend who had the ability to get two people at a bar arguing with
each other. Then he would slip away. Unfortunately the US doesn't have the
ability to get two enemies to the point of mutual destruction. It usually
has to take sides even when there is no advantage.

If it does make the attempt it screws it up. How did that Sino-Soviet
split work in the long run?

On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>
>>The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>(as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>
>>At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>
> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
> the ability.

And Israelis have been calling for the total anihilation of Palestinians.
I'm not Muslim or Jewish. Neither side is worth a shit. I agree with Crude,
just stay out of it.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>
>>The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>(as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>
>>At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>
> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
> the ability.

You've got to remember that, about three or four years, the Israelis "mow
the grass" in Gaza. By "mowing the grass" they mean terrorizing the Gazans
by carpet bombing them and killing whomever is there (women, children and
innocent men). So the Muslims may *want* to do the same to the Jews, but it
is the Israelis who actually do it — with the weapons we supply.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-11 08:35, chrisv wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>>
>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>
>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>
>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>> the ability.
>
> They would slaughter every Christian too because, as we know, we are
> infidels and must be either killed, enslaved or taxed. All of this is
> because neither Jews nor Christians accepted Muhammad as a prophet in
> the 7th century. His being ridiculed back then means that we all have to
> die.

Yet another pedophile pervert cult leader.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-12 03:18, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>>
>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>
>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>
>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>> the ability.
>
> And Israelis have been calling for the total anihilation of Palestinians.
> I'm not Muslim or Jewish. Neither side is worth a shit. I agree with Crude,
> just stay out of it.

Both of their ideologies see us Christians as garbage, so I don't see
why they should allow themselves to beg for our help, why they should
accept it or why we would be foolish enough to offer it in the first place.

--
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

On 2025-01-12 03:21, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>>
>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>
>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>
>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>> the ability.
>
> You've got to remember that, about three or four years, the Israelis "mow
> the grass" in Gaza. By "mowing the grass" they mean terrorizing the Gazans
> by carpet bombing them and killing whomever is there (women, children and
> innocent men). So the Muslims may *want* to do the same to the Jews, but it
> is the Israelis who actually do it — with the weapons we supply.

Nothing in what I've seen over the past few years suggests otherwise.
There is no redeeming either of these parties. In fact, if you watch
Openration Stephen on YouTube where an Indian Christian uses the Koran
itself to show Muslims how incorrect their faith is, you'll know that
there is no arguing with these people. They will deceive, lie and defend
the indefensible rather than admit that they might be wrong about anything.

--
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

On 2025-01-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-12 03:18, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>>
>>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>>
>>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>>> the ability.
>>
>> And Israelis have been calling for the total anihilation of Palestinians.
>> I'm not Muslim or Jewish. Neither side is worth a shit. I agree with Crude,
>> just stay out of it.
>
> Both of their ideologies see us Christians as garbage, so I don't see
> why they should allow themselves to beg for our help, why they should
> accept it or why we would be foolish enough to offer it in the first place.

The obvious answer is... the West is run by the Rothschilds. Israel is
comprised of their kith and kin. Mostly kin.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-12 03:21, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>>
>>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>>
>>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>>> the ability.
>>
>> You've got to remember that, about three or four years, the Israelis "mow
>> the grass" in Gaza. By "mowing the grass" they mean terrorizing the Gazans
>> by carpet bombing them and killing whomever is there (women, children and
>> innocent men). So the Muslims may *want* to do the same to the Jews, but it
>> is the Israelis who actually do it — with the weapons we supply.
>
> Nothing in what I've seen over the past few years suggests otherwise.
> There is no redeeming either of these parties. In fact, if you watch
> Openration Stephen on YouTube where an Indian Christian uses the Koran
> itself to show Muslims how incorrect their faith is, you'll know that
> there is no arguing with these people. They will deceive, lie and defend
> the indefensible rather than admit that they might be wrong about anything.

The Sunni branch seem to have the most obstinate practices. The Shiite's
seem to be a little more civilized. But it's two branches of the same cult.
And, as is usual with cults, there are a lot of little twigs branching off
into a myriad of sub-cults.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-13 07:25, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-01-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-12 03:18, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>>>
>>>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>>>
>>>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>>>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>>>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>>>> the ability.
>>>
>>> And Israelis have been calling for the total anihilation of Palestinians.
>>> I'm not Muslim or Jewish. Neither side is worth a shit. I agree with Crude,
>>> just stay out of it.
>>
>> Both of their ideologies see us Christians as garbage, so I don't see
>> why they should allow themselves to beg for our help, why they should
>> accept it or why we would be foolish enough to offer it in the first place.
>
> The obvious answer is... the West is run by the Rothschilds. Israel is
> comprised of their kith and kin. Mostly kin.

That's why we shouldn't be surprised with the way Christianity has lost
importance and how debauchery is increasingly permitted.

--
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

On 2025-01-13 07:29, RonB wrote:
> On 2025-01-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-12 03:21, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>>>
>>>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>>>
>>>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>>>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>>>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>>>> the ability.
>>>
>>> You've got to remember that, about three or four years, the Israelis "mow
>>> the grass" in Gaza. By "mowing the grass" they mean terrorizing the Gazans
>>> by carpet bombing them and killing whomever is there (women, children and
>>> innocent men). So the Muslims may *want* to do the same to the Jews, but it
>>> is the Israelis who actually do it — with the weapons we supply.
>>
>> Nothing in what I've seen over the past few years suggests otherwise.
>> There is no redeeming either of these parties. In fact, if you watch
>> Openration Stephen on YouTube where an Indian Christian uses the Koran
>> itself to show Muslims how incorrect their faith is, you'll know that
>> there is no arguing with these people. They will deceive, lie and defend
>> the indefensible rather than admit that they might be wrong about anything.
>
> The Sunni branch seem to have the most obstinate practices. The Shiite's
> seem to be a little more civilized. But it's two branches of the same cult.
> And, as is usual with cults, there are a lot of little twigs branching off
> into a myriad of sub-cults.

To me, they're all the same. Some are kinder, some are more hostile but
all worship a murderous pedophile called Muhammed (piss be upon him).

--
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative

On 2025-01-13, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-13 07:25, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-01-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-12 03:18, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>>>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>>>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>>>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>>>>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>>>>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>>>>> the ability.
>>>>
>>>> And Israelis have been calling for the total anihilation of Palestinians.
>>>> I'm not Muslim or Jewish. Neither side is worth a shit. I agree with Crude,
>>>> just stay out of it.
>>>
>>> Both of their ideologies see us Christians as garbage, so I don't see
>>> why they should allow themselves to beg for our help, why they should
>>> accept it or why we would be foolish enough to offer it in the first place.
>>
>> The obvious answer is... the West is run by the Rothschilds. Israel is
>> comprised of their kith and kin. Mostly kin.
>
> That's why we shouldn't be surprised with the way Christianity has lost
> importance and how debauchery is increasingly permitted.

Paganism (satanism disguised) always ends up in debauchery.

About the time when the Stoic idealism had begun to show the weaknesses of
pessimism, the old nature worship of the ancients had begun to show the
enormous weaknesses of optimism. Nature worship is natural enough while
the society is young, or, in other words, Pantheism is all right as long
as it is the worship of Pan. But Nature has another side which experience
and sin are not slow in finding out, and it is no flippancy to say of the
god Pan that he soon showed the cloven hoof. The only objection to Natural
Religion is that somehow it always becomes unnatural. A man loves Nature
in the morning for her innocence and amiability, and at nightfall, if he
is loving her still, it is for her darkness and her cruelty. He washes at
dawn in clear water as did the Wise Man of the Stoics, yet, somehow at the
dark end of the day, he is bathing in hot bull's blood, as did Julian the
Apostate. The mere pursuit of health always leads to something unhealthy.
Physical nature must not be made the direct object of obedience; it must
be enjoyed, not worshipped. Stars and mountains must not be taken
seriously. If they are, we end where the pagan nature worship ended.
Because the earth is kind, we can imitate all her cruelties. Because
sexuality is sane, we can all go mad about sexuality. Mere optimism had
reached its insane and appropriate termination. The theory that everything
was good had become an orgy of everything that was bad.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-13, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-01-13 07:29, RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-01-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-12 03:21, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>>>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>>>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>>>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>>>>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>>>>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>>>>> the ability.
>>>>
>>>> You've got to remember that, about three or four years, the Israelis "mow
>>>> the grass" in Gaza. By "mowing the grass" they mean terrorizing the Gazans
>>>> by carpet bombing them and killing whomever is there (women, children and
>>>> innocent men). So the Muslims may *want* to do the same to the Jews, but it
>>>> is the Israelis who actually do it — with the weapons we supply.
>>>
>>> Nothing in what I've seen over the past few years suggests otherwise.
>>> There is no redeeming either of these parties. In fact, if you watch
>>> Openration Stephen on YouTube where an Indian Christian uses the Koran
>>> itself to show Muslims how incorrect their faith is, you'll know that
>>> there is no arguing with these people. They will deceive, lie and defend
>>> the indefensible rather than admit that they might be wrong about anything.
>>
>> The Sunni branch seem to have the most obstinate practices. The Shiite's
>> seem to be a little more civilized. But it's two branches of the same cult.
>> And, as is usual with cults, there are a lot of little twigs branching off
>> into a myriad of sub-cults.
>
> To me, they're all the same. Some are kinder, some are more hostile but
> all worship a murderous pedophile called Muhammed (piss be upon him).

True.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2025-01-14, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2025-01-13, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-13 07:25, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2025-01-12, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-01-12 03:18, RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-01-11, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "enemy of my enemy" is not always my friend. Sometimes there is no good
>>>>>>> side. But if I had to pick one over the other, bombing and starving children
>>>>>>> (as the Israelis are doing) makes them the more detestable of the two sides.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At one point there was a large Christian population in Palestine. The
>>>>>>> Muslims aren't the only ones oppressed by the Israeli terrorists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is going on over there is horrible, but we should not forget that
>>>>>> Hamas intentionally uses civilians as shields. We also should not
>>>>>> forget that Hamas would happily slaughter *every last jew* if they had
>>>>>> the ability.
>>>>>
>>>>> And Israelis have been calling for the total anihilation of Palestinians.
>>>>> I'm not Muslim or Jewish. Neither side is worth a shit. I agree with Crude,
>>>>> just stay out of it.
>>>>
>>>> Both of their ideologies see us Christians as garbage, so I don't see
>>>> why they should allow themselves to beg for our help, why they should
>>>> accept it or why we would be foolish enough to offer it in the first place.
>>>
>>> The obvious answer is... the West is run by the Rothschilds. Israel is
>>> comprised of their kith and kin. Mostly kin.
>>
>> That's why we shouldn't be surprised with the way Christianity has lost
>> importance and how debauchery is increasingly permitted.
>
> Paganism (satanism disguised) always ends up in debauchery.
>
> About the time when the Stoic idealism had begun to show the weaknesses of
> pessimism, the old nature worship of the ancients had begun to show the
> enormous weaknesses of optimism. Nature worship is natural enough while
> the society is young, or, in other words, Pantheism is all right as long
> as it is the worship of Pan. But Nature has another side which experience
> and sin are not slow in finding out, and it is no flippancy to say of the
> god Pan that he soon showed the cloven hoof. The only objection to Natural
> Religion is that somehow it always becomes unnatural. A man loves Nature
> in the morning for her innocence and amiability, and at nightfall, if he
> is loving her still, it is for her darkness and her cruelty. He washes at
> dawn in clear water as did the Wise Man of the Stoics, yet, somehow at the
> dark end of the day, he is bathing in hot bull's blood, as did Julian the
> Apostate. The mere pursuit of health always leads to something unhealthy.
> Physical nature must not be made the direct object of obedience; it must
> be enjoyed, not worshipped. Stars and mountains must not be taken
> seriously. If they are, we end where the pagan nature worship ended.
> Because the earth is kind, we can imitate all her cruelties. Because
> sexuality is sane, we can all go mad about sexuality. Mere optimism had
> reached its insane and appropriate termination. The theory that everything
> was good had become an orgy of everything that was bad.

Forgot to mention that this quote comes from Orthodoxy by G.K. Chesterton.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien