vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> Seems like there isn't much Linux advocacy going on.[*]

Very true, this place is filled with toxic political posts.

I stopped coming here because of that. I just popped in
because I have not visited here for a few years. If
anything it is worse. So I will throw this over the wall
and hope these people can read and understand what they
read.

People who post political content here need to get a clue
and learn how to use USENET correctly. They need to read
and understand this:

https://www.slack.net/~ant/usenet-posts.html

Especially section "Starting Discussion Threads".

<snip>

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 11:38:40 -0000 (UTC), John McCue
<jmccue@fuzzball.jmcunx.com> wrote in <vde2jv$27es6$1@dont-email.me>:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> Seems like there isn't much Linux advocacy going on.[*]
>
> Very true, this place is filled with toxic political posts.
>
> I stopped coming here because of that. I just popped in because I have
> not visited here for a few years. If anything it is worse. So I will
> throw this over the wall and hope these people can read and understand
> what they read.
>
> People who post political content here need to get a clue and learn how
> to use USENET correctly. They need to read and understand this:
>
> https://www.slack.net/~ant/usenet-posts.html
>
> Especially section "Starting Discussion Threads".
>
> <snip>

I've found the place usable again after instructing my newsreader
to ignore crossposts to certain newsgroups.

Unfortunately, there are also some Linux regulars that barf
up political posts from time to time. For those threads,
I right-click, "ignore thread", and voila, the world is
a happier place.

ObLinux: Compiled and booted Linux 6.12-rc1 yesterday evening,
but NVIDIA drivers won't compile for the new kernel. Checked
the forum, and it's a known problem -- official answer is
that 6.12-rc1 isn't a released kernel, so wait for the release
then they'll fix it.

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On 2024-09-30 7:38 a.m., John McCue wrote:
> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> Seems like there isn't much Linux advocacy going on.[*]
>
> Very true, this place is filled with toxic political posts.
>
> I stopped coming here because of that. I just popped in
> because I have not visited here for a few years. If
> anything it is worse. So I will throw this over the wall
> and hope these people can read and understand what they
> read.
>
> People who post political content here need to get a clue
> and learn how to use USENET correctly. They need to read
> and understand this:
>
> https://www.slack.net/~ant/usenet-posts.html
>
> Especially section "Starting Discussion Threads".
>
> <snip>

Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Linux has _become_ political.
The woke zombies have taken over and simply expecting developers to
improve the software now takes a back seat to making sure that people
who hide their Christmas decorations in their butt hole like Chris
Ahlstrom are prioritized.

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vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 12:09 this Monday (GMT):
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 11:38:40 -0000 (UTC), John McCue
><jmccue@fuzzball.jmcunx.com> wrote in <vde2jv$27es6$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>> Seems like there isn't much Linux advocacy going on.[*]
>>
>> Very true, this place is filled with toxic political posts.
>>
>> I stopped coming here because of that. I just popped in because I have
>> not visited here for a few years. If anything it is worse. So I will
>> throw this over the wall and hope these people can read and understand
>> what they read.
>>
>> People who post political content here need to get a clue and learn how
>> to use USENET correctly. They need to read and understand this:
>>
>> https://www.slack.net/~ant/usenet-posts.html
>>
>> Especially section "Starting Discussion Threads".
>>
>> <snip>
>
> I've found the place usable again after instructing my newsreader
> to ignore crossposts to certain newsgroups.

Yeah, its kinda funny watching half the threads disappear.

> Unfortunately, there are also some Linux regulars that barf
> up political posts from time to time. For those threads,
> I right-click, "ignore thread", and voila, the world is
> a happier place.
>
> ObLinux: Compiled and booted Linux 6.12-rc1 yesterday evening,
> but NVIDIA drivers won't compile for the new kernel. Checked
> the forum, and it's a known problem -- official answer is
> that 6.12-rc1 isn't a released kernel, so wait for the release
> then they'll fix it.

What's OBLinux?
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 19:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> What's OBLinux?

Obligatory comment about Linux in an otherwise off topic post.

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 19:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote in
<slrnvflgbj.lr8.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>:

>> ObLinux: Compiled and booted Linux 6.12-rc1 yesterday evening, but
>> NVIDIA drivers won't compile for the new kernel. Checked the forum, and
>> it's a known problem -- official answer is that 6.12-rc1 isn't a
>> released kernel, so wait for the release then they'll fix it.
>
>
> What's OBLinux?

"Obligatory Linux". Some newsgroups have a rule that "off-topic" posts
need to include something "on-topic", as a sort of obligation.

I like to pretend that's the case here sometimes. (It isn't, but
I wish it was an unwritten social convention.)

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:12:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Linux has _become_ political.

Free Software always was political. You mean you just realized? You never
heard Richard Stallman talk about?

> The woke zombies have taken over ...

Free Software is about freedom. Nobody can “take over” Free Software.

By the way, is “woke” the new “liberal”? One smear term has lost its
smear-ability, so you are trying to create a new one?

On 1 Oct 2024 13:45:11 GMT, vallor wrote:

> (It isn't, but I wish it was an unwritten social convention.)

Now that you’ve written it down, it can never be.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 23:17 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 1 Oct 2024 13:45:11 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>> (It isn't, but I wish it was an unwritten social convention.)
>
> Now that you’ve written it down, it can never be.

The paradox of unwritten rules.
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 23:17:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:12:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Linux has _become_
>> political.
>
> Free Software always was political. You mean you just realized? You
> never heard Richard Stallman talk about?

Stallman could politicize a discussion of what pizza toppings to order for
dinner. It's in his genes.

> By the way, is “woke” the new “liberal”? One smear term has lost its
> smear-ability, so you are trying to create a new one?

The woke whiggers culturally appropriated that one themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

On 4 Oct 2024 03:55:05 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
<lm978pFr43iU3@mid.individual.net>:

> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 23:17:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:12:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Linux has _become_
>>> political.
>>
>> Free Software always was political. You mean you just realized? You
>> never heard Richard Stallman talk about?
>
> Stallman could politicize a discussion of what pizza toppings to order
> for dinner. It's in his genes.
>
>> By the way, is “woke” the new “liberal”? One smear term has lost its
>> smear-ability, so you are trying to create a new one?
>
> The woke whiggers culturally appropriated that one themselves.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

"woke" = new, shorter RWNJ pejorative term for "politically-correct"

"politically-correct" = RWNJ pejorative term for "tolerant"

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On 4 Oct 2024 03:55:05 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 23:17:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:12:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Linux has _become_
>>> political.
>>
>> Free Software always was political. You mean you just realized? You
>> never heard Richard Stallman talk about?
>
> Stallman could politicize a discussion of what pizza toppings to order
> for dinner. It's in his genes.

He is free to do that, just as you are free to disagree.

>> By the way, is “woke” the new “liberal”? One smear term has lost its
>> smear-ability, so you are trying to create a new one?
>
> The woke whiggers culturally appropriated that one themselves.

“Cultural appropriation” means taking some element of another culture and
passing it off as your own. Like USian pizza.

On 2024-10-03 11:55 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 23:17:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:12:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Linux has _become_
>>> political.
>>
>> Free Software always was political. You mean you just realized? You
>> never heard Richard Stallman talk about?
>
> Stallman could politicize a discussion of what pizza toppings to order for
> dinner. It's in his genes.

The schematics for the machines used to slaughter the animals to produce
the pepperoni are not free therefore it is unethical to eat the pizza!

>> By the way, is “woke” the new “liberal”? One smear term has lost its
>> smear-ability, so you are trying to create a new one?
>
> The woke whiggers culturally appropriated that one themselves.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

The term "liberal" was already appropriated by these tyrannical demons
the same way that the term "gay" was. They have also appropriated
fucking _rainbows_ for themselves. All of this shit must be resisted at
all costs.

They aren't "gay," they're limp-wristed.
Their flag shouldn't be a rainbow, it should be a shit-covered penis.
They aren't liberal, they are tyrannical.

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Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

On 2024-10-04 12:16 a.m., vallor wrote:
> On 4 Oct 2024 03:55:05 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
> <lm978pFr43iU3@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 23:17:22 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:12:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Linux has _become_
>>>> political.
>>>
>>> Free Software always was political. You mean you just realized? You
>>> never heard Richard Stallman talk about?
>>
>> Stallman could politicize a discussion of what pizza toppings to order
>> for dinner. It's in his genes.
>>
>>> By the way, is “woke” the new “liberal”? One smear term has lost its
>>> smear-ability, so you are trying to create a new one?
>>
>> The woke whiggers culturally appropriated that one themselves.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke
>
> "woke" = new, shorter RWNJ pejorative term for "politically-correct"
>
> "politically-correct" = RWNJ pejorative term for "tolerant"

If they decided that allowing niggers to rape your wife tomorrow is
politically-correct, you would agree that it is "tolerant" to do so.

"Politically-correct" simply means "spineless."

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Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:30:02 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> The term "liberal" was already appropriated by these tyrannical demons
> the same way that the term "gay" was. They have also appropriated
> fucking _rainbows_ for themselves. All of this shit must be resisted at
> all costs.

I'm sure the Rainbow Girls, the Mason's equivalent of DeMolay for girls,
is overjoyed by the new usage.

Back in the '70s a friend had colored laces in his sneakers. I don't think
the color had any particular meaning. When his mother saw them she
exclaimed 'Oh, what gay laces!'. We cringed since the meaning had already
been subverted 50 years ago.

I don't care that much for old school liberals let alone the modern
variant but then I'm not convinced that the 'Enlightenment' was a good
thing.

On 4 Oct 2024 20:26:54 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> When his mother saw them she exclaimed 'Oh, what gay laces!'. We
> cringed ...

Only because you saw it as somehow embarrassing.

There is a lovely ad, from the earlier part of last century, for a company
selling multicoloured dyed-wool yarn, I think it was. Their slogan was “we
made the rainbow gay”.

CrudeSausage wrote:

>If they decided that (redacted) is
>politically-correct, you would agree that it is "tolerant" to do so.

Or for leftists to take your kid away from you, if you don't "affirm"
his/her gender delusions and let them "transition".

Unlike Slime's hypothetical situation, mine is reality, in some
places.

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 20:54:25 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On 4 Oct 2024 20:26:54 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> When his mother saw them she exclaimed 'Oh, what gay laces!'. We
>> cringed ...
>
> Only because you saw it as somehow embarrassing.

Cringe was the wrong word choice but I couldn't think of a better. This
was around 1970 and 'gay' was hardly as widely used as it became. His
mother was an older woman from Maine which wasn't exactly on the front
lines of breaking culture and using 'gay' for 'colorful' was sort of
archaic. It was the juxtaposition of a somewhat uncommon usage with a term
that was starting to acquire a completely different meaning.

The use of 'queer' is more understandable given its original usage. It has
also been around for longer. I don't know when the new meaning was
acquired but definitely by the '50s. Burrough's follow up to 'Junkie' was
'Queer' in '51. It wasn't published at the time. I don't know when it
became a self-reference either. The '80s?

'Faggot' puzzles me and the expert etymologists apparently. I really got
confused when I read Kipling's 'Stalky & Co'. Much later I read C.S.
Lewis' 'Surprised by Joy' where he hinted even more strongly that there
was a bit of faggotry in British 'public schools', another confusing term
for Americans. Then there are cigarettes.

On 2024-10-04 5:44 p.m., chrisv wrote:
> CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> If they decided that (redacted) is
>> politically-correct, you would agree that it is "tolerant" to do so.
>
> Or for leftists to take your kid away from you, if you don't "affirm"
> his/her gender delusions and let them "transition".
>
> Unlike Slime's hypothetical situation, mine is reality, in some
> places.

It happened here in Canada, in British Columbia. A father lost his
daughter to transsexualism.

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Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

On 2024-10-04 4:26 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 08:30:02 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> The term "liberal" was already appropriated by these tyrannical demons
>> the same way that the term "gay" was. They have also appropriated
>> fucking _rainbows_ for themselves. All of this shit must be resisted at
>> all costs.
>
> I'm sure the Rainbow Girls, the Mason's equivalent of DeMolay for girls,
> is overjoyed by the new usage.
>
> Back in the '70s a friend had colored laces in his sneakers. I don't think
> the color had any particular meaning. When his mother saw them she
> exclaimed 'Oh, what gay laces!'. We cringed since the meaning had already
> been subverted 50 years ago.
>
> I don't care that much for old school liberals let alone the modern
> variant but then I'm not convinced that the 'Enlightenment' was a good
> thing.

The Enlightenment was probably a good thing, but we might have been
wrong to stop hanging faggots.

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Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king