On 2024-09-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-09-30 2:50 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-09-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-29 1:54 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-28 5:09 p.m., DFS wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/27/2024 7:27 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>>>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Use your ad-infested, back-door infested Windows crap and enjoy it. I'll
>>>>>>>> keep using Linux, thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got Copilot PLUS!*  Kidding of course, this is why I'm feeling so
>>>>>>> great about openSUSE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/copilot-plus-pcs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You want Windows 11/12/13 and CoPilot+ running on an ARM CPU so bad you
>>>>>> can taste it.  No need to deny it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joel needs AI to tell him that he's one sexy motherfucker. So far, AI
>>>>> has preferred to commit suicide rather than say such a thing.
>>>>
>>>> I have absolutely NO desire to have anything AI anywhere near my computer. I
>>>> just read today that AI server farms each require more electricity than
>>>> whole cities. So much for the "green revolution." Wonder why the Climate
>>>> Screechers aren't screeching up a storm about this?
>>>>
>>>> This is not the article I saw, but it's all I could find with a quick
>>>> Internet search...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/18/energy-ai-use-electricity-water-data-centers/
>>>>
>>>> Even the Woke should like this article as it's printed the Washington Woke
>>>> Post.
>>>
>>> In case you're not already aware, Microsoft is looking to relaunch the
>>> Three Mile Island nuclear reactor to power their data center... but you
>>> should definitely trust them when they tell you that they're not
>>> gathering data on you.
>>> <https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5120581/three-mile-island-nuclear-power-plant-microsoft-ai>
>>
>> I became aware of this because of all the AI server farms they're building
>> in northern Virginia rural areas. Apparently they think they have the right
>> to claim eminent domain on farmland to build the power lines across
>> Maryland to power these server farms. The reason this bothers me is because
>> part of my childhood was spent in that farmland in Maryland. Beautiful
>> country.
>>
>> It pisses me off that they find a remote area to build these AI server farms
>> and then demand that the states bend over backwards to supply power to them
>> — which will cause the price of electricity to rise all over Maryland. And,
>> of course, the worthless politicians bend over backwards to give them what
>> they want, despite what it costs to the average Marylander.
>>
>> What should be done is that these AI server farms should be built in the old
>> rust-belt zones of crumbling cities, like Baltimore. Where the
>> infrastructure is already nearby, and it wouldn't require miles and miles of
>> new high voltage electric lines. But I guess that's not good enough for
>> these entitled bastards who are building these damned AI server farms.
>
> I guess now we know why it was that Bill Gates bought all that farmland
> in the United States. We figured it was to kill off the local farmer,
> but it looks like that will just be a secondary consequence. I'll be
> honest, finding out that Gates was looking to revive Three Mile Island
> and create such massive data centers was enough for me to abandon
> Microsoft's software entirely, but I've said that before and I know that
> I will eventually come running back. Sadly, I'm getting the impression
> that like me, people will eventually swallow this crap and adopt it
> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
> once and for all.

I'm glad I'm old. This world is going to hell in hand-basket. But Microsoft
is definitely in my rear-view mirror.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-01 2:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-09-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2024-09-30 2:50 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-29 1:54 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-09-28 5:09 p.m., DFS wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/27/2024 7:27 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>>>>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Use your ad-infested, back-door infested Windows crap and enjoy it. I'll
>>>>>>>>> keep using Linux, thank you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I got Copilot PLUS!*  Kidding of course, this is why I'm feeling so
>>>>>>>> great about openSUSE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/copilot-plus-pcs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You want Windows 11/12/13 and CoPilot+ running on an ARM CPU so bad you
>>>>>>> can taste it.  No need to deny it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joel needs AI to tell him that he's one sexy motherfucker. So far, AI
>>>>>> has preferred to commit suicide rather than say such a thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have absolutely NO desire to have anything AI anywhere near my computer. I
>>>>> just read today that AI server farms each require more electricity than
>>>>> whole cities. So much for the "green revolution." Wonder why the Climate
>>>>> Screechers aren't screeching up a storm about this?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not the article I saw, but it's all I could find with a quick
>>>>> Internet search...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/18/energy-ai-use-electricity-water-data-centers/
>>>>>
>>>>> Even the Woke should like this article as it's printed the Washington Woke
>>>>> Post.
>>>>
>>>> In case you're not already aware, Microsoft is looking to relaunch the
>>>> Three Mile Island nuclear reactor to power their data center... but you
>>>> should definitely trust them when they tell you that they're not
>>>> gathering data on you.
>>>> <https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5120581/three-mile-island-nuclear-power-plant-microsoft-ai>
>>>
>>> I became aware of this because of all the AI server farms they're building
>>> in northern Virginia rural areas. Apparently they think they have the right
>>> to claim eminent domain on farmland to build the power lines across
>>> Maryland to power these server farms. The reason this bothers me is because
>>> part of my childhood was spent in that farmland in Maryland. Beautiful
>>> country.
>>>
>>> It pisses me off that they find a remote area to build these AI server farms
>>> and then demand that the states bend over backwards to supply power to them
>>> — which will cause the price of electricity to rise all over Maryland. And,
>>> of course, the worthless politicians bend over backwards to give them what
>>> they want, despite what it costs to the average Marylander.
>>>
>>> What should be done is that these AI server farms should be built in the old
>>> rust-belt zones of crumbling cities, like Baltimore. Where the
>>> infrastructure is already nearby, and it wouldn't require miles and miles of
>>> new high voltage electric lines. But I guess that's not good enough for
>>> these entitled bastards who are building these damned AI server farms.
>>
>> I guess now we know why it was that Bill Gates bought all that farmland
>> in the United States. We figured it was to kill off the local farmer,
>> but it looks like that will just be a secondary consequence. I'll be
>> honest, finding out that Gates was looking to revive Three Mile Island
>> and create such massive data centers was enough for me to abandon
>> Microsoft's software entirely, but I've said that before and I know that
>> I will eventually come running back. Sadly, I'm getting the impression
>> that like me, people will eventually swallow this crap and adopt it
>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>> once and for all.
>
> I'm glad I'm old. This world is going to hell in hand-basket. But Microsoft
> is definitely in my rear-view mirror.

I'm not yet that old and I have a son who will have to live in a world
where this kind of stuff is the norm. I fear that people like him are
not going to know what freedom is.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

On 2024-10-01, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-10-01 2:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-09-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-30 2:50 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-29 1:54 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-09-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-09-28 5:09 p.m., DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/27/2024 7:27 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Use your ad-infested, back-door infested Windows crap and enjoy it. I'll
>>>>>>>>>> keep using Linux, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I got Copilot PLUS!*  Kidding of course, this is why I'm feeling so
>>>>>>>>> great about openSUSE.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/copilot-plus-pcs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You want Windows 11/12/13 and CoPilot+ running on an ARM CPU so bad you
>>>>>>>> can taste it.  No need to deny it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joel needs AI to tell him that he's one sexy motherfucker. So far, AI
>>>>>>> has preferred to commit suicide rather than say such a thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have absolutely NO desire to have anything AI anywhere near my computer. I
>>>>>> just read today that AI server farms each require more electricity than
>>>>>> whole cities. So much for the "green revolution." Wonder why the Climate
>>>>>> Screechers aren't screeching up a storm about this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not the article I saw, but it's all I could find with a quick
>>>>>> Internet search...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/18/energy-ai-use-electricity-water-data-centers/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even the Woke should like this article as it's printed the Washington Woke
>>>>>> Post.
>>>>>
>>>>> In case you're not already aware, Microsoft is looking to relaunch the
>>>>> Three Mile Island nuclear reactor to power their data center... but you
>>>>> should definitely trust them when they tell you that they're not
>>>>> gathering data on you.
>>>>> <https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5120581/three-mile-island-nuclear-power-plant-microsoft-ai>
>>>>
>>>> I became aware of this because of all the AI server farms they're building
>>>> in northern Virginia rural areas. Apparently they think they have the right
>>>> to claim eminent domain on farmland to build the power lines across
>>>> Maryland to power these server farms. The reason this bothers me is because
>>>> part of my childhood was spent in that farmland in Maryland. Beautiful
>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>> It pisses me off that they find a remote area to build these AI server farms
>>>> and then demand that the states bend over backwards to supply power to them
>>>> — which will cause the price of electricity to rise all over Maryland. And,
>>>> of course, the worthless politicians bend over backwards to give them what
>>>> they want, despite what it costs to the average Marylander.
>>>>
>>>> What should be done is that these AI server farms should be built in the old
>>>> rust-belt zones of crumbling cities, like Baltimore. Where the
>>>> infrastructure is already nearby, and it wouldn't require miles and miles of
>>>> new high voltage electric lines. But I guess that's not good enough for
>>>> these entitled bastards who are building these damned AI server farms.
>>>
>>> I guess now we know why it was that Bill Gates bought all that farmland
>>> in the United States. We figured it was to kill off the local farmer,
>>> but it looks like that will just be a secondary consequence. I'll be
>>> honest, finding out that Gates was looking to revive Three Mile Island
>>> and create such massive data centers was enough for me to abandon
>>> Microsoft's software entirely, but I've said that before and I know that
>>> I will eventually come running back. Sadly, I'm getting the impression
>>> that like me, people will eventually swallow this crap and adopt it
>>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>>> once and for all.
>>
>> I'm glad I'm old. This world is going to hell in hand-basket. But Microsoft
>> is definitely in my rear-view mirror.
>
> I'm not yet that old and I have a son who will have to live in a world
> where this kind of stuff is the norm. I fear that people like him are
> not going to know what freedom is.

Yeah, I know. I have children and grand-children. And it bothers me every
day thinking about the evil Woke world they may be living in. That's why
Russia (and BRICS) MUST defeat the Rothschild ghouls and the so-called
"West" and their sick, anti-family values.

Our Blessed Lady warned us about this time, centuries ago (about 1630) at
Quito, Ecuador.

As for the Sacrament of Matrimony, which symbolizes the union of Christ
with His Church, it will be attacked and profaned in the fullest sense of
the word. Masonry, which will then be in power, will enact iniquitous
laws with the objective of doing away with this Sacrament, making it easy
for everyone to live in sin, encouraging the procreation of illegitimate
children born without the blessing of the Church. The Christian spirit
will rapidly decay, extinguishing the precious light of Faith until it
reaches the point that there will be an almost total and general
corruption of customs. The effects of secular education will increase,
which will be one reason for the lack of priestly and religious
vocations.

The Sacred Sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed and
despised. …The demon will try to persecute the Ministers of the Lord in
every possible way and he will labor with cruel and subtle astuteness to
deviate them from the spirit of their vocation, corrupting many of them.
These corrupted priests, who will scandalize the Christian people, will
incite the hatred of the bad Christians and the enemies of the Roman,
Catholic and Apostolic Church to fall upon all priests. This apparent
triumph of Satan will bring enormous sufferings to the good Pastors of
the Church.
Moreover, in these unhappy times, there will be unbridled luxury which,
acting thus to snare the rest into sin, will conquer innumerable
frivolous souls who will be lost. Innocence will almost no longer be
found in children, nor modesty in women. In this supreme moment of need
of the Church, those who should speak will fall silent.

Therefore, clamor insistently without tiring and weep with bitter tears
in the privacy of your heart, imploring our Celestial Father that, for
love of the Eucharistic Heart of my Most Holy Son and His Precious Blood
shed with such generosity and the profound bitterness and sufferings of
His cruel Passion and Death, He might take pity on His ministers and
bring to an end those Ominous times, sending to this Church the Prelate
who will restore the spirit of its priests.

https://www.virgosacrata.com/our-lady-of-good-success-prophecies-for-our-times.html

In another apparition in Italy, by the Virgin of Revelation, Our Lady
spoke of a time after Russia is converted back to Christianity (this
prophecy happened in 1947, right after WWII), when a Pope will clean up the
mess created by bad popes. And our Lady of Fatima said that Russia will be
used to "chastise the world" if it wasn't consecrated to the Immaculate
Heart of Mary, which it wasn't.

At any rate, from a human point of view, the "West" is screwed and we will
be chastised (and I believe Russia will deliver that chastisement). But this
chastisement may result in the rebirth of a Christendom in the West, as the
Soviet chastisement of the Russian people by the Soviet government (also
controlled by the Rothschilds and their ilk) resulted in the rebirth of
Christianity there.

So all is not hopeless for my kids.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-02 8:52 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-10-01, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2024-10-01 2:41 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-30 2:50 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-09-29 1:54 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-09-29, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-28 5:09 p.m., DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/27/2024 7:27 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Use your ad-infested, back-door infested Windows crap and enjoy it. I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> keep using Linux, thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I got Copilot PLUS!*  Kidding of course, this is why I'm feeling so
>>>>>>>>>> great about openSUSE.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/copilot-plus-pcs
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You want Windows 11/12/13 and CoPilot+ running on an ARM CPU so bad you
>>>>>>>>> can taste it.  No need to deny it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joel needs AI to tell him that he's one sexy motherfucker. So far, AI
>>>>>>>> has preferred to commit suicide rather than say such a thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have absolutely NO desire to have anything AI anywhere near my computer. I
>>>>>>> just read today that AI server farms each require more electricity than
>>>>>>> whole cities. So much for the "green revolution." Wonder why the Climate
>>>>>>> Screechers aren't screeching up a storm about this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is not the article I saw, but it's all I could find with a quick
>>>>>>> Internet search...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/18/energy-ai-use-electricity-water-data-centers/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even the Woke should like this article as it's printed the Washington Woke
>>>>>>> Post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In case you're not already aware, Microsoft is looking to relaunch the
>>>>>> Three Mile Island nuclear reactor to power their data center... but you
>>>>>> should definitely trust them when they tell you that they're not
>>>>>> gathering data on you.
>>>>>> <https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5120581/three-mile-island-nuclear-power-plant-microsoft-ai>
>>>>>
>>>>> I became aware of this because of all the AI server farms they're building
>>>>> in northern Virginia rural areas. Apparently they think they have the right
>>>>> to claim eminent domain on farmland to build the power lines across
>>>>> Maryland to power these server farms. The reason this bothers me is because
>>>>> part of my childhood was spent in that farmland in Maryland. Beautiful
>>>>> country.
>>>>>
>>>>> It pisses me off that they find a remote area to build these AI server farms
>>>>> and then demand that the states bend over backwards to supply power to them
>>>>> — which will cause the price of electricity to rise all over Maryland. And,
>>>>> of course, the worthless politicians bend over backwards to give them what
>>>>> they want, despite what it costs to the average Marylander.
>>>>>
>>>>> What should be done is that these AI server farms should be built in the old
>>>>> rust-belt zones of crumbling cities, like Baltimore. Where the
>>>>> infrastructure is already nearby, and it wouldn't require miles and miles of
>>>>> new high voltage electric lines. But I guess that's not good enough for
>>>>> these entitled bastards who are building these damned AI server farms.
>>>>
>>>> I guess now we know why it was that Bill Gates bought all that farmland
>>>> in the United States. We figured it was to kill off the local farmer,
>>>> but it looks like that will just be a secondary consequence. I'll be
>>>> honest, finding out that Gates was looking to revive Three Mile Island
>>>> and create such massive data centers was enough for me to abandon
>>>> Microsoft's software entirely, but I've said that before and I know that
>>>> I will eventually come running back. Sadly, I'm getting the impression
>>>> that like me, people will eventually swallow this crap and adopt it
>>>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>>>> once and for all.
>>>
>>> I'm glad I'm old. This world is going to hell in hand-basket. But Microsoft
>>> is definitely in my rear-view mirror.
>>
>> I'm not yet that old and I have a son who will have to live in a world
>> where this kind of stuff is the norm. I fear that people like him are
>> not going to know what freedom is.
>
> Yeah, I know. I have children and grand-children. And it bothers me every
> day thinking about the evil Woke world they may be living in. That's why
> Russia (and BRICS) MUST defeat the Rothschild ghouls and the so-called
> "West" and their sick, anti-family values.
>
> Our Blessed Lady warned us about this time, centuries ago (about 1630) at
> Quito, Ecuador.
>
> As for the Sacrament of Matrimony, which symbolizes the union of Christ
> with His Church, it will be attacked and profaned in the fullest sense of
> the word. Masonry, which will then be in power, will enact iniquitous
> laws with the objective of doing away with this Sacrament, making it easy
> for everyone to live in sin, encouraging the procreation of illegitimate
> children born without the blessing of the Church. The Christian spirit
> will rapidly decay, extinguishing the precious light of Faith until it
> reaches the point that there will be an almost total and general
> corruption of customs. The effects of secular education will increase,
> which will be one reason for the lack of priestly and religious
> vocations.
>
> The Sacred Sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed and
> despised. …The demon will try to persecute the Ministers of the Lord in
> every possible way and he will labor with cruel and subtle astuteness to
> deviate them from the spirit of their vocation, corrupting many of them.
> These corrupted priests, who will scandalize the Christian people, will
> incite the hatred of the bad Christians and the enemies of the Roman,
> Catholic and Apostolic Church to fall upon all priests. This apparent
> triumph of Satan will bring enormous sufferings to the good Pastors of
> the Church.
>
> Moreover, in these unhappy times, there will be unbridled luxury which,
> acting thus to snare the rest into sin, will conquer innumerable
> frivolous souls who will be lost. Innocence will almost no longer be
> found in children, nor modesty in women. In this supreme moment of need
> of the Church, those who should speak will fall silent.
>
> Therefore, clamor insistently without tiring and weep with bitter tears
> in the privacy of your heart, imploring our Celestial Father that, for
> love of the Eucharistic Heart of my Most Holy Son and His Precious Blood
> shed with such generosity and the profound bitterness and sufferings of
> His cruel Passion and Death, He might take pity on His ministers and
> bring to an end those Ominous times, sending to this Church the Prelate
> who will restore the spirit of its priests.
>
> https://www.virgosacrata.com/our-lady-of-good-success-prophecies-for-our-times.html
>
> In another apparition in Italy, by the Virgin of Revelation, Our Lady
> spoke of a time after Russia is converted back to Christianity (this
> prophecy happened in 1947, right after WWII), when a Pope will clean up the
> mess created by bad popes. And our Lady of Fatima said that Russia will be
> used to "chastise the world" if it wasn't consecrated to the Immaculate
> Heart of Mary, which it wasn't.
>
> At any rate, from a human point of view, the "West" is screwed and we will
> be chastised (and I believe Russia will deliver that chastisement). But this
> chastisement may result in the rebirth of a Christendom in the West, as the
> Soviet chastisement of the Russian people by the Soviet government (also
> controlled by the Rothschilds and their ilk) resulted in the rebirth of
> Christianity there.
>
> So all is not hopeless for my kids.

On 9/30/2024 9:57 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

> I'll be
> honest, finding out that Gates was looking to revive Three Mile Island
> and create such massive data centers was enough for me to abandon
> Microsoft's software entirely, but I've said that before

heh!

> and I know that I will eventually come running back.

Before this sentence ends...

> Sadly, I'm getting the impression
> that like me, people will eventually swallow this crap and adopt it
> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
> once and for all.

Can you imagine if Microsoft hacks your computer and finds out you like
to put baby food on your ice cream? The humiliation!

On 2024-10-02 10:42 a.m., DFS wrote:
> On 9/30/2024 9:57 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>>  I'll be honest, finding out that Gates was looking to revive Three
>> Mile Island and create such massive data centers was enough for me to
>> abandon Microsoft's software entirely, but I've said that before
>
> heh!
>
>
>
>> and I know that I will eventually come running back.
>
> Before this sentence ends...
>
>
>
>> Sadly, I'm getting the impression that like me, people will eventually
>> swallow this crap and adopt it rather than fight what is obviously an
>> operating to obliterate privacy once and for all.
>
> Can you imagine if Microsoft hacks your computer and finds out you like
> to put baby food on your ice cream?  The humiliation!
>

I encrypt every e-mail I receive regardless of whether there is anything
sensitive in there. It's not that I have anything to hide; it's that I
don't believe the government has the right to know the contents of my
e-mail unless there is a reason to suspect me. The same way that I don't
believe a government should have such power, I don't believe a
corporation should. Privacy should be the default position, not a
response to something.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

On 2024-10-02, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-10-02 8:52 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>
>> So all is not hopeless for my kids.
>
> Well, it seems that the new generation of kids is a lot more interested
> in conservatism and spirituality than the one that's been corrupted by
> the hippies, so there is hope. Whether that actually results in a
> restoration of traditional ideas which would make people like vallor and
> Chris Ahlstrom anomalies rather than the norm remains to be seen.

I hope they'll see a revival. I tend to doubt that I will see it in my life
time.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-03 6:00 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-10-02, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2024-10-02 8:52 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>
>>> So all is not hopeless for my kids.
>>
>> Well, it seems that the new generation of kids is a lot more interested
>> in conservatism and spirituality than the one that's been corrupted by
>> the hippies, so there is hope. Whether that actually results in a
>> restoration of traditional ideas which would make people like vallor and
>> Chris Ahlstrom anomalies rather than the norm remains to be seen.
>
> I hope they'll see a revival. I tend to doubt that I will see it in my life
> time.

What I can tell you for sure at the moment is that I would love for
Poland to move away from its allegiance to the United States, and to get
closer to Russia, especially since what Russia is promoting is identical
to what the Poles have always wanted. America is only going to pull the
people into an inescapable rabbit hole of progressivism.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
> once and for all.

Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
guarantee any right to privacy, does it?

Le 2024-10-16 à 18 h 37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>> once and for all.
>
> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?

I doubt that the forefathers could have foretold that there would
eventually be technology which facilitates government surveillance and
that most people would willingly buy, use and install it in their homes
in an effort to make their lives less miserable.

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 22:37:45 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>> once and for all.
>
> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?

Fourth Amendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

https://epic.org/issues/privacy-laws/fourth-amendment/

The only rights are those you seize.

On 2024-10-16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>> once and for all.
>
> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?

It does guarantee the right to not be subject to "unreasonable searches and
seizures." That seems akin to privacy.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-10-16 à 18 h 37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>>> once and for all.
>>
>> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
>> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?
>
> I doubt that the forefathers could have foretold that there would
> eventually be technology which facilitates government surveillance and
> that most people would willingly buy, use and install it in their homes
> in an effort to make their lives less miserable.

The full fourth amendment...

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Perhaps Lawrence would like to review implications of that amendment.
Definitely rules out surveillance without probable cause — and without an
oath or affirmation, SPECIFICALLY describing the place, person and things to
be seized.

So, yes, law abiding citizens of the United States do have the right to
privacy, guaranteed in the Constitution.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-10-17, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 22:37:45 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>>> once and for all.
>>
>> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
>> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?
>
> Fourth Amendment
>
> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
> effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
> violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
> by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
> searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
>
> https://epic.org/issues/privacy-laws/fourth-amendment/
>
> The only rights are those you seize.

Beat me to it. Sorry for the redundancy.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

Le 2024-10-17 à 02 h 52, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-10-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-10-16 à 18 h 37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>>>> once and for all.
>>>
>>> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
>>> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?
>>
>> I doubt that the forefathers could have foretold that there would
>> eventually be technology which facilitates government surveillance and
>> that most people would willingly buy, use and install it in their homes
>> in an effort to make their lives less miserable.
>
> The full fourth amendment...
>
> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
> and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
> violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
> by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
> searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
>
> Perhaps Lawrence would like to review implications of that amendment.
> Definitely rules out surveillance without probable cause — and without an
> oath or affirmation, SPECIFICALLY describing the place, person and things to
> be seized.
>
> So, yes, law abiding citizens of the United States do have the right to
> privacy, guaranteed in the Constitution.

I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you willingly
install all sorts of technology which has already been reported to be
used by corporations and the government to monitor your life. For
example, we know that Amazon's Alexa listens in on your household
conversations. It could be to sell you a product, but it could also be
to obtain evidence to use against you in a lawsuit. Despite that, people
buy the product and put it in their homes because it somehow makes life
more exciting for them. If I not mistaken, the Fourth Amendment only
protects you against an outsider setting such equipment up in your house
without your permission and if you are not part of an investigation.

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 09:02:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you willingly
> install all sorts of technology which has already been reported to be
> used by corporations and the government to monitor your life. For
> example, we know that Amazon's Alexa listens in on your household
> conversations. It could be to sell you a product, but it could also be
> to obtain evidence to use against you in a lawsuit.

That proved to be a problem. Amazon's brilliant idea was Alexa would be
used to buy stuff so the hardware was sold at cost or below. They didn't
foresee people would use Alexa to play music or turn the lights off, not
purchase items.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/11/amazon-alexa-is-a-colossal-
failure-on-pace-to-lose-10-billion-this-year/

That's a two year old article. Here's the update.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/07/alexa-had-no-profit-timeline-cost-
amazon-25-billion-in-4-years/

Amazon's predicament is even worse than losing money on the devices. The
device responds to the wake word, 'alexa' or whatever. You can change it.
A woman I know by the name of Alex had to, obviously. Anyway after waking
up the speech processing is done on Amazon servers, so there is the
continuing expense of keeping the servers running. Now they have the
quandary of telling happy Alexa users they will stop working, which is a
legally fraught move, or try to talk them into a subscription which won't
fly either.

Pardon my Schadenfreude at Amazon screwing themselves. Other products
worked out a lot better. The ads on my ad supported Kindles seldom result
in a purchase but I do by a lot of books on kindle. The same for the Fire
TV. I only subscribe to Netflix in addition to the Amazon Prime service
but I assume they get a cut from Netflix.

Le 2024-10-17 à 14 h 37, rbowman a écrit :
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 09:02:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you willingly
>> install all sorts of technology which has already been reported to be
>> used by corporations and the government to monitor your life. For
>> example, we know that Amazon's Alexa listens in on your household
>> conversations. It could be to sell you a product, but it could also be
>> to obtain evidence to use against you in a lawsuit.
>
> That proved to be a problem. Amazon's brilliant idea was Alexa would be
> used to buy stuff so the hardware was sold at cost or below. They didn't
> foresee people would use Alexa to play music or turn the lights off, not
> purchase items.
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/11/amazon-alexa-is-a-colossal-
> failure-on-pace-to-lose-10-billion-this-year/
>
> That's a two year old article. Here's the update.
>
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/07/alexa-had-no-profit-timeline-cost-
> amazon-25-billion-in-4-years/
>
> Amazon's predicament is even worse than losing money on the devices. The
> device responds to the wake word, 'alexa' or whatever. You can change it.
> A woman I know by the name of Alex had to, obviously. Anyway after waking
> up the speech processing is done on Amazon servers, so there is the
> continuing expense of keeping the servers running. Now they have the
> quandary of telling happy Alexa users they will stop working, which is a
> legally fraught move, or try to talk them into a subscription which won't
> fly either.
>
> Pardon my Schadenfreude at Amazon screwing themselves. Other products
> worked out a lot better. The ads on my ad supported Kindles seldom result
> in a purchase but I do by a lot of books on kindle. The same for the Fire
> TV. I only subscribe to Netflix in addition to the Amazon Prime service
> but I assume they get a cut from Netflix.

I never saw the point of Alexa. It's basically an upgrade of the
clap-on/clap-off light switch to me. Sure, you can order pizza or
something by just speaking it out loud but how fucking lazy can you get?

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 17:22:14 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> I never saw the point of Alexa. It's basically an upgrade of the
> clap-on/clap-off light switch to me. Sure, you can order pizza or
> something by just speaking it out loud but how fucking lazy can you get?

Certainly you wouldn't want to drag your ass out of your $2000 Herman
Miller gaming chair to do something as mundane as order a pizza? I use the
remote to turn on the radio that's an arm's length away; now if I could
have alexa do it for me...

(I use the remote because the front panel display died years ago and I'm
not sure what the front panel buttons do)

On 2024-10-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> Le 2024-10-17 à 02 h 52, RonB a écrit :
>> On 2024-10-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> Le 2024-10-16 à 18 h 37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>>>>> once and for all.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
>>>> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?
>>>
>>> I doubt that the forefathers could have foretold that there would
>>> eventually be technology which facilitates government surveillance and
>>> that most people would willingly buy, use and install it in their homes
>>> in an effort to make their lives less miserable.
>>
>> The full fourth amendment...
>>
>> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
>> and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
>> violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
>> by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
>> searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
>>
>> Perhaps Lawrence would like to review implications of that amendment.
>> Definitely rules out surveillance without probable cause — and without an
>> oath or affirmation, SPECIFICALLY describing the place, person and things to
>> be seized.
>>
>> So, yes, law abiding citizens of the United States do have the right to
>> privacy, guaranteed in the Constitution.
>
> I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you willingly
> install all sorts of technology which has already been reported to be
> used by corporations and the government to monitor your life. For
> example, we know that Amazon's Alexa listens in on your household
> conversations. It could be to sell you a product, but it could also be
> to obtain evidence to use against you in a lawsuit. Despite that, people
> buy the product and put it in their homes because it somehow makes life
> more exciting for them. If I not mistaken, the Fourth Amendment only
> protects you against an outsider setting such equipment up in your house
> without your permission and if you are not part of an investigation.

I don't allow Alexa or Google... whatever... in my house. For a while one of
my wife's relatives wanted to run pictures of the extended family
continually through our living room TV, using the Google version of Alexa. I
kept unplugging it and they finally gave up and took the damn thing away. I
didn't even know that's what they were using for the "slide show" that until
I started to play music on my Android phone, and it wanted to broadcast it
on the Google Alexa thing. That's when I started unplugging it.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

Le 2024-10-18 à 03 h 29, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-10-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-10-17 à 02 h 52, RonB a écrit :
>>> On 2024-10-16, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> Le 2024-10-16 à 18 h 37, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>>>>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>>>>>> once and for all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
>>>>> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?
>>>>
>>>> I doubt that the forefathers could have foretold that there would
>>>> eventually be technology which facilitates government surveillance and
>>>> that most people would willingly buy, use and install it in their homes
>>>> in an effort to make their lives less miserable.
>>>
>>> The full fourth amendment...
>>>
>>> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
>>> and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
>>> violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
>>> by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
>>> searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
>>>
>>> Perhaps Lawrence would like to review implications of that amendment.
>>> Definitely rules out surveillance without probable cause — and without an
>>> oath or affirmation, SPECIFICALLY describing the place, person and things to
>>> be seized.
>>>
>>> So, yes, law abiding citizens of the United States do have the right to
>>> privacy, guaranteed in the Constitution.
>>
>> I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you willingly
>> install all sorts of technology which has already been reported to be
>> used by corporations and the government to monitor your life. For
>> example, we know that Amazon's Alexa listens in on your household
>> conversations. It could be to sell you a product, but it could also be
>> to obtain evidence to use against you in a lawsuit. Despite that, people
>> buy the product and put it in their homes because it somehow makes life
>> more exciting for them. If I not mistaken, the Fourth Amendment only
>> protects you against an outsider setting such equipment up in your house
>> without your permission and if you are not part of an investigation.
>
> I don't allow Alexa or Google... whatever... in my house. For a while one of
> my wife's relatives wanted to run pictures of the extended family
> continually through our living room TV, using the Google version of Alexa. I
> kept unplugging it and they finally gave up and took the damn thing away. I
> didn't even know that's what they were using for the "slide show" that until
> I started to play music on my Android phone, and it wanted to broadcast it
> on the Google Alexa thing. That's when I started unplugging it.

Nowadays, it's difficult to buy a television set which doesn't have
Android functionality in it which insists on connecting to the entirety
of your network. I imagine that some people find it convenient to be
able to broadcast their videos and photos, or to get an app like Rumble
to watch their favourite streams, but there is no denying that they are
just opening themselves up for a potential security nightmare.
Additionally, the mere fact that such technology is attached to their
television means that the technology is going to become obsolete faster,
encouraging people to replace a perfectly good set before it is time to
do so.

--
CrudeSausage
Paleoconservative, Catholic, Christ is king.

On Fri, 18 Oct 2024 07:29:49 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I don't allow Alexa or Google... whatever... in my house. For a while
> one of my wife's relatives wanted to run pictures of the extended family
> continually through our living room TV, using the Google version of
> Alexa. I kept unplugging it and they finally gave up and took the damn
> thing away. I didn't even know that's what they were using for the
> "slide show" that until I started to play music on my Android phone, and
> it wanted to broadcast it on the Google Alexa thing. That's when I
> started unplugging it.

I'm not very vocal. Except for my biweekly appearance in the office I can
go days without uttering anything beyond 'Hey, white cat' when she shows
up for food. Talking to some piece of hardware isn't going to happen.
Maybe if I'm working one something and it's not going well but I don't
know how Alexa would respond to a stream of incoherent obscenities.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 09:02:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

>> The full fourth amendment...
>>
>> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
>> papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
>> shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon
>> probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly
>> describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to
>> be seized.
>
> I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you willingly
> install all sorts of technology which has already been reported to be
> used by corporations and the government to monitor your life.

Note that that Fourth Amendment is only a check on Government power, it
doesn’t prevent private businesses from doing all that, and more.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:42:34 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Can you imagine if Microsoft hacks your computer and finds out you like
> to put baby food on your ice cream?

The phrase “boiling the frog” comes to mind ...

On 17 Oct 2024 02:21:26 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 22:37:45 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:57:45 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> rather than fight what is obviously an operating to obliterate privacy
>>> once and for all.
>>
>> Interesting that your much-vaunted US Constitution doesn’t actually
>> guarantee any right to privacy, does it?
>
> Fourth Amendment
>
> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
> and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
> violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
> supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place
> to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
>
> https://epic.org/issues/privacy-laws/fourth-amendment/

No restriction there on anything Microsoft or Google or Apple or Facebook/
Meta might do.

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 01:16:14 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 09:02:53 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>>> The full fourth amendment...
>>>
>>> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
>>> papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
>>> shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon
>>> probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly
>>> describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to
>>> be seized.
>>
>> I am aware, except that I don't believe it protects you if you
>> willingly install all sorts of technology which has already been
>> reported to be used by corporations and the government to monitor your
>> life.
>
> Note that that Fourth Amendment is only a check on Government power, it
> doesn’t prevent private businesses from doing all that, and more.

Groups install bird houses in some of the open spaces principally to
attract mountain bluebirds although other species move in. Lately I've
been noticing faux bird houses with cameras along some of the trails.
There are disclaimers on the back side of the houses that they are only
counting devices to determine trail usage and aren't collecting images.
j.i.c. I either circle around them or make rude gestures depending on my
mood that day.