On 9/22/2024 5:44 PM, Lying Larry Piet wrote:

> On 22 Sep 2024 21:06:15 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>>> What do YOU do?
>>
>> Don't change the subject. You are speaking about yourself. What I do is
>> irrelevant to believing in your claims.
>>
>
> Incorrect.
>
> The spirit of FOSS demands that users contribute in every way in which
> they are able. That could be patches, bug reports, comments, etc.

Other side of your piehole:

"I couldn't care less about the [FOSS] 'community.'"

> But YOU do not contribute. You are just a selfish user with a big,
> fat, useless mouth.
>
> FOSS does not need YOU, but if does need ME.

NOBODY needs a talentless, angry, incel, Linux Configurator King like you.

On 9/22/2024 7:25 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:14:50 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> "DESCRIPTION This man page reader just views the output of the man
>> system command, with a nice point and click, drag and drop, GUI."
>
> KDE Konqueror already does that. And info pages as well. Besides being a
> web browser, it’s also a file manager. And possibly some other things I
> can’t remember off the top of my head right now.
>
> Yup, it’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

KIO plugins or some such?

I checked my archives, and Konqueror at one point integrated a web
browser, a file browser, a document viewer, a program launcher, a shell
command executor, an image gallery creator, and a spell-checker.

Total violation of the "Unix philosophy" but Linux victims ate it up.

On 9/22/2024 7:30 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:08:00 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 9/22/2024 3:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>>
>> https://www.linuxcertif.com/man/1/cooledit/
>>
>> alpha-unknown-linux 62
>> alpha-unknown-linux-gnu 28
>> hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.10 39
>> hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.20 350
>> i486-unknown-linux 1522
>> i686-pc-linux-gnu 14457
>> i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1 867
>> mips-sgi-irix5.3 36
>> mips-sgi-irix6.2 33
>> mips-sgi-irix6.3 13
>> mips-sgi-irix6.5 22
>> sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1 200
>> sparc-sun-solaris2.6 224
>
> Gee, I wonder if any Dimdows software can claim that kind of cross-
> platform support ...

GuhNoo/Linux tagline: "The Software Nobody Wants Running On The Hardware
Nobody Wants"

WinTel ruled then and it rulez now.

On 9/22/2024 4:29 PM, vallor wrote:

> https://imgur.com/bAiSkLe

Those are darn sharp, even when enlarged. Feeb's look OK, but not
like yours.

What monitor are you rocking?

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 00:06:18 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<vcqpfo$2ikq6$2@dont-email.me>:

> On 9/22/2024 4:29 PM, vallor wrote:
>
>
>> https://imgur.com/bAiSkLe
>
> Those are darn sharp, even when enlarged. Feeb's look OK, but not
> like yours.
>
> What monitor are you rocking?

ASUS ROG PG42UQ 41.5 inch Gaming Monitor | 3840 x 2160 | 138Hz | 0.1ms |
True 10 bit

But the monitor doesn't affect the font, just makes it easier
to see the flaws.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BBSV1LK5/

Splurged on it back in May -- almost decided on a curved display,
but ultimately that was too far-out for my tastes.

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On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 23:25:13 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vcq90p$2ctaa$2@dont-email.me>:

> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:14:50 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> "DESCRIPTION This man page reader just views the output of the man
>> system command, with a nice point and click, drag and drop, GUI."
>
> KDE Konqueror already does that. And info pages as well. Besides being a
> web browser, it’s also a file manager. And possibly some other things I
> can’t remember off the top of my head right now.
>
> Yup, it’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!

I've grown partial to groffer(1) when I want to view
typeset man pages.

Nothing like a Unix system for typesetting. I've set up
a system with groff -mom macros for the book I've avoided
writing, which will be a memoir of 1991-1998: how
our company got off the ground, with the focus on
Linux.

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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 9/22/2024 7:25 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:14:50 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> "DESCRIPTION This man page reader just views the output of the man
>>> system command, with a nice point and click, drag and drop, GUI."
>>
>> KDE Konqueror already does that. And info pages as well. Besides being a
>> web browser, it’s also a file manager. And possibly some other things I
>> can’t remember off the top of my head right now.
>>
>> Yup, it’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!
>
>KIO plugins or some such?
>
>I checked my archives, and Konqueror at one point integrated a web
>browser, a file browser, a document viewer, a program launcher, a shell
>command executor, an image gallery creator, and a spell-checker.
>
>Total violation of the "Unix philosophy" but Linux victims ate it up.

You do realize that running Linux can be anything one wants it to be,
basically? You can boot it without a GUI at all, not that this would
be useful on a modern desktop. Even Larry's lame OS installation has
a basic X Window setup, although painfully void of useful features
that he thinks he doesn't really need, even as he buys server
processors for his builds. But also uses a spinning hard drive and
not a solid state drive.

Incredible, to me, although it figures a person like that would be in
this newsgroup, but the way he is trying to lord his supposed skill
over distro users is even stupider than hating Apple/MS users because
of their support of, appreciation for, and/or usage online of, their
proprietary OSes, no this goes to condemning fellow Linux advocates,
calling them unspeakable things, psychosis flowing into public view
via text. Larry is a creep.

--
Joel W. Crump

But then again, people think I am.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 9/22/2024 4:29 PM, vallor wrote:
>
>> https://imgur.com/bAiSkLe
>
> Those are darn sharp, even when enlarged.

See: https://i.imgur.com/bAiSkLe.png

--
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Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 00:46:27 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
<jis1fj5uuti4lrigo1e56sfk7l42iin75k@4ax.com>:

> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>On 9/22/2024 4:29 PM, vallor wrote:
>>
>>> https://imgur.com/bAiSkLe
>>
>> Those are darn sharp, even when enlarged.
>
>
> See: https://i.imgur.com/bAiSkLe.png

What is the point?

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vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 00:46:27 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
><jis1fj5uuti4lrigo1e56sfk7l42iin75k@4ax.com>:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>On 9/22/2024 4:29 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/bAiSkLe
>>>
>>> Those are darn sharp, even when enlarged.
>>
>> See: https://i.imgur.com/bAiSkLe.png
>
>What is the point?

Just that if you find the raw image, it's what DFS stated "when
enlarged", the image as it first appears on your link's page is
*shrunk*.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 23:55:43 -0400, DFS wrote:

> I checked my archives, and Konqueror at one point integrated a web
> browser, a file browser, a document viewer, a program launcher, a shell
> command executor, an image gallery creator, and a spell-checker.

Dolphin replaced Konqueror as the file browser in KDE. Konqueror is not
part of the default Fedora KDE spin installation although you can install
it if you wish. I seldom used it when it was installed so I didn't bother.
Unless it has really improved in the last 10 years it wasn't very good as
a web browser.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 01:37:32 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
<0iv1fjtmfn4se0l5iipluanomt80q69ca0@4ax.com>:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 00:46:27 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>><jis1fj5uuti4lrigo1e56sfk7l42iin75k@4ax.com>:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>On 9/22/2024 4:29 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/bAiSkLe
>>>>
>>>> Those are darn sharp, even when enlarged.
>>>
>>> See: https://i.imgur.com/bAiSkLe.png
>>
>>What is the point?
>
>
> Just that if you find the raw image, it's what DFS stated "when
> enlarged", the image as it first appears on your link's page is
> *shrunk*.

That makes sense. (They are the same size on my screen, but
I use a 4K monitor.)

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You(Carpentier)Replied(to Thorpe):
> > YOU do nothing except feebly attack
> > your undisputed superiors, such as myself.
>
> Either you are a bot or you are faking your stupidity,

He's Detroit's finest.

vallor wrote:

>https://imgur.com/bAiSkLe
>
>That's what it should look like, not what you posted.

That is nice!

--
"That's what you said:" - DumFSck, lying shamelessly, after which he
quoted what I really said. Nice of him, to document his own *lie*.

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 01:37:32 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
><0iv1fjtmfn4se0l5iipluanomt80q69ca0@4ax.com>:
>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 00:46:27 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>>><jis1fj5uuti4lrigo1e56sfk7l42iin75k@4ax.com>:
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>On 9/22/2024 4:29 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://imgur.com/bAiSkLe
>>>>>
>>>>> Those are darn sharp, even when enlarged.
>>>>
>>>> See: https://i.imgur.com/bAiSkLe.png
>>>
>>>What is the point?
>>
>> Just that if you find the raw image, it's what DFS stated "when
>> enlarged", the image as it first appears on your link's page is
>> *shrunk*.
>
>That makes sense. (They are the same size on my screen, but
>I use a 4K monitor.)

I have one too, actually, but it may not appear quite the same
depending on how the browser is configured, I guess.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 23 Sep 2024 04:37:12 GMT, vallor wrote:

> Nothing like a Unix system for typesetting.

Funny that, considering that typesetting was the important use case that
got Bell Labs to agree to fund the effort that became Unix.

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 23:55:43 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Total violation of the "Unix philosophy" ...

Says a victim of a proprietary, opaque system that wouldn’t know
“philosophy” if it bit you on the bum.

On 23 Sep 2024 06:14:39 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> Dolphin replaced Konqueror as the file browser in KDE.

Actually, Konqueror still has all the functions it always had.

> Unless it has really improved in the last 10 years it wasn't very good
> as a web browser.

Funny that its HTML-rendering engine, KHTML, was the basis on which Apple
built WebKit, on which Google in turn built Blink. You know, the family of
HTML renderers that every browser in the world right now seems to use,
apart from Firefox and its offshoots.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 00:01:46 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 9/22/2024 7:30 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> Gee, I wonder if any Dimdows software can claim that kind of cross-
>> platform support ...
>
> GuhNoo/Linux tagline: "The Software Nobody Wants Running On The Hardware
> Nobody Wants"

Just count up those numbers ... that’s a lot of “nobodies” ...

Sour grapes, because at one time Microsoft tried to run Windows NT on
those platforms, and failed.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 23:55:43 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Total violation of the "Unix philosophy" ...
>
>Says a victim of a proprietary, opaque system that wouldn’t know
>“philosophy” if it bit you on the bum.

He judges Linux harshly but defends M$'s abusive OS. Just
dumbfoundingly ass-backward.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 00:29:23 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Funny that its HTML-rendering engine, KHTML, was the basis on which
> Apple built WebKit, on which Google in turn built Blink. You know, the
> family of HTML renderers that every browser in the world right now seems
> to use, apart from Firefox and its offshoots

Development on KHTML stopped 8 years ago and it was officially buried last
year. Apple forked KHTML 20 years ago to get WebKit. Google improved
WebKit before forking Blink 11 years ago. WebKit is still a problem since
any browser ported to iOS has to use it.

You could say the AC Cobra 427 was a fork of the AC Ace, a pleasant but
not particularly rapid British sports car before Shelby got his hands on
one.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2024 00:29:23 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <vct153$2tic0$3@dont-email.me>:

> On 23 Sep 2024 06:14:39 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> Dolphin replaced Konqueror as the file browser in KDE.
>
> Actually, Konqueror still has all the functions it always had.
>
>> Unless it has really improved in the last 10 years it wasn't very good
>> as a web browser.
>
> Funny that its HTML-rendering engine, KHTML, was the basis on which Apple
> built WebKit, on which Google in turn built Blink. You know, the family of
> HTML renderers that every browser in the world right now seems to use,
> apart from Firefox and its offshoots.

So does Konqueror use Blink now?

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On 24 Sep 2024 02:59:49 GMT, vallor wrote:

> So does Konqueror use Blink now?

https://userbase.kde.org/Konqueror#KHTML_vs._Webkit

"This page was last edited on 16 March 2013, at 07:44."

The Arora link throws a server error and the Rekonq page is marked for
deletion since rekonq is no longer being developed.

https://cubiclenate.com/2018/12/05/konqueror-is-still-awesome/

That's a little newer but damns with faint praise.

"Admittedly, I tend to use Dolphin and Falkon more frequently than
Konqueror. Dolphin for the side pane functionality and Falkon tends to to
a better job of rendering pages than Konqueror. When it comes to serious
file management, where I really need to dig in and do some heavy [file
management] lifting, Konqueror still reigns supreme."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsy5g_qho-s

That's a fast history lesson. Horror of hooros he dead names the WebKit
developer but apologizes.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> Gee, I wonder if any Dimdows software can claim that kind of cross-
>>> platform support ...
>>
>> GuhNoo/Linux tagline: "The Software Nobody Wants Running On The Hardware
>> Nobody Wants"
>
>Just count up those numbers ... that’s a lot of “nobodies” ...

That dumb fsck lives in an upside-down world. Nobody wants the
world's most popular kernel, there. FOSS doesn't massively benefit
everyone, there.

>Sour grapes, because at one time Microsoft tried to run Windows NT on
>those platforms, and failed.

Only FOSS has the efficiency required to support all those platforms.

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with a for-sale product." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly

On 9/23/2024 12:42 AM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 9/22/2024 7:25 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:14:50 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> "DESCRIPTION This man page reader just views the output of the man
>>>> system command, with a nice point and click, drag and drop, GUI."
>>>
>>> KDE Konqueror already does that. And info pages as well. Besides being a
>>> web browser, it’s also a file manager. And possibly some other things I
>>> can’t remember off the top of my head right now.
>>>
>>> Yup, it’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!
>>
>> KIO plugins or some such?
>>
>> I checked my archives, and Konqueror at one point integrated a web
>> browser, a file browser, a document viewer, a program launcher, a shell
>> command executor, an image gallery creator, and a spell-checker.
>>
>> Total violation of the "Unix philosophy" but Linux victims ate it up.
>
>
> You do realize that running Linux can be anything one wants it to be,
> basically?

You can even make it invisible, like I do.

But seriously, lately I use Linux (Ubuntu WSL) to download computer
science college course materials using wget.

> You can boot it without a GUI at all, not that this would
> be useful on a modern desktop.

Feeb is very insecure. He equates masculinity with the command line,
but he's not the first Linux 'advocate' to do so. In the past Homer was
proud of his rxvt terminal usage; he called it 'pure computing'.

It's silly.

> Even Larry's lame OS installation has
> a basic X Window setup, although painfully void of useful features
> that he thinks he doesn't really need, even as he buys server
> processors for his builds. But also uses a spinning hard drive and
> not a solid state drive.

I use 3 drives:
OS and boot: internal 256GB NVMe
data : internal 2TB SSD
backup : external 2TB HDD (small form factor)

> Incredible, to me, although it figures a person like that would be in
> this newsgroup, but the way he is trying to lord his supposed skill
> over distro users is even stupider than hating Apple/MS users because
> of their support of, appreciation for, and/or usage online of, their
> proprietary OSes, no this goes to condemning fellow Linux advocates,
> calling them unspeakable things, psychosis flowing into public view
> via text. Larry is a creep.

You got it.

As I've said before: Linux, loneliness and testosterone is a bad mix.