On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:36:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> Get a clue on how much violence against whites is perpetrated by blacks,
> and it almost *never* makes the news.

https://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2023-Annual-Report.pdf

The format was easier to interpret in the past. The graphic on 108 shows
4% of the murder victims as white. 137 has arrests by race but doesn't do
a breakdown by incident type. 8% of the arrestees are white. Blacks, black
Hispanics, and the confusing white Hispanics comprise 91% of the arrests.
Back on 108, 94% of the murder victims were white Hispanics or black.

I used to have a link to a 2011 CPD report that broke the murders by race.
About 4% of the perpetrators or victims were white. Chicago would be a
nice place if the blacks and Hispanics could refrain from killing each
other. Sometimes whites get caught in the crossfire.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:08:52 -0400, Joel wrote:

> Am I supposed to think they targeted him because of race, or something?
> There's nothing to suggest that's so. It was probably one of those
> teen-boy violence things, that unfortunately happen. It's repugnant,
> but not unheard of.

Oh for fuck's sake..

On 2024-09-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>That negro Muslim in England slaughtered 3 children, and injured many
>>>>>more, just recently.
>>>>>
>>>>>This negro killed six white people with his truck. That news got
>>>>>buried pretty quickly, didn't it? Apparently that worthless thug
>>>>>George Floyd was more valuable to society.
>>>>>
>>>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waukesha_Christmas_parade_attack
>>>>
>>>> So you're just knee deep in racism, now, Chris?
>
> Knee-deep in the anti-white racism that flourishes in this county, and
> much of Europe as well.
>
>>> Get a brain, jeez.
>
> Get a clue on how much violence against whites is perpetrated by
> blacks, and it almost *never* makes the news.
>
> But let some entitled asshole pro football player get taken from his
> car after being a total uncooperative dick, rolling-up his tinted
> windows when the cops are trying to talk to him, and it's national
> news! *Shitty*, whining *assholes* on ESPN and elsewhere have a
> fscking conniption!
>
> Where's the conniption when stuff like the below happens?
>
> https://www.newsweek.com/white-student-hospitalized-brutal-attack-school-sparks-outrage-1852254
>
> Could you *imagine* the outrage, if the races had been reversed?
>
>>> Some of the long-time COLA posters have taken a dark turn in the last few
>>> years. :-(
>
> Is it "dark" that leftists will call you a "racist" if you think, for
> example, Kamala is an idiot? Or is that OK, with you?
>
>>It's a result of responding to Woke COLA posters' snark with no substance.
>
> Not just COLA posters, of course. GD leftists.

Can't argue against any these observations. ChrisA is a gullible Woke moron.
Politically his brain has atrophied to the point of simply regurgitating the
BS he hears on the MSM. Ask him for proof or even evidence of some kind and
his brain blanks on him. You'll probably get one of his vacuous, snarky
Junior High level comments for your trouble (if that much).

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-09-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:08:52 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> Am I supposed to think they targeted him because of race, or something?
>> There's nothing to suggest that's so. It was probably one of those
>> teen-boy violence things, that unfortunately happen. It's repugnant,
>> but not unheard of.
>
> Oh for fuck's sake..

Joel is a dipshit. They're "targeted" because they're the ones committing
the crimes. Don't want to go to jail? Don't steal, burn or murder. Non
problem solved.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:45:30 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>pothead wrote:
>
>>Either way, these verdicts will be overturned on appeal and at some point even the most low
>>information voters will wake up and realize that the justice system has been weaponized by the
>>Biden regime for the purpose of taking out their opponents. And the more intelligent people will
>>realize that if can happen to Trump, it can happen to them as well.
>
>The leftists like it that way, man! The state knows best. The
>constitution is a "dangerous threat"!

It's not the liberals trying to terminate the Constitution.

--
Trump is a loser.

In 2016, when he *won*, the GOP lost two Senate and six House seats.
In 2018, in his mid terms, the GOP lost 41 seats giving Dems control
of the House for the first time in nearly a decade.
In 2020, when he lost, the GOP also lost the Senate.
In 2021 and 2022 they lost most of their Special Elections.
In 2022, a year of opposition mid terms, rampant inflation, exploding gas prices
and record low popularity ratings for the opposition in
the White House, they only gained 9 seats for control but lost
another Senate seat, and almost all of Trump's endorsees lost.
In 2022-2023 They continued to lose Special Elections.

Trump's endorsees usually lose.

On 9/12/24 1:24 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 12:50:53 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-09-12, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>>>
>>> Cope harder, but it doesn't change the facts: that the majority of the
>>> FOP voting membership chooses to support a felon over a prosecutor.
>
>> Again, the above does not address the point that the number of bad cops is minuscule compared to
>> the good ones.
>
> Nor does it excuse the Fraternal Order of Police from endorsing a convicted
> felon (with sixty counts yet to be tried) over a career prosecutor.

Nor does it make pothead's claim of "minuscule" become substantiated in
any objective fashion.

>
>> Oh and a person in not legally a convicted felon until a sentence is entered into the proper court documents.

Trump has been legally convicted. That there are steps subsequent to
that such as the administration of sentencing, removal of his right to
vote, etc is merely a pedantic dodge attempt: the next thing we know,
you'll probably try to claim that he's not 'truly been convicted' until
he's finished his entire prison sentence with parole.

>> Either way, these verdicts will be overturned on appeal and at some
>> point even the most low information voters will wake up and realize
>> that the justice system has been weaponized by the
>> Biden regime for the purpose of taking out their opponents.

Ironic how pothead has been trying to argue that law enforcement only
has a "minuscule" amount of corruption, then drops this whopper.

>> And the more intelligent people will
>> realize that if can happen to Trump, it can happen to them as well.
>> That's what happens in a banana republic.
>
> Tell the Culligan man to take the acid cake out of your water softener.
> It's your brain that's getting softened.

It is merely more 'cope' from the fans of criminals.

To that end, is pothead willing to put his money where his mouth is?
Because I'm willing to make a modest welch-proof honor bet with him that
Trump isn't going to beat the NY conviction.

Probably not for Jean Carroll's case either:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump>

-hh

On 9/13/24 2:31 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:36:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>
>> Get a clue on how much violence against whites is perpetrated by blacks,
>> and it almost *never* makes the news.
>
> https://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2023-Annual-Report.pdf
>
> The format was easier to interpret in the past.

I can recall some reporting from years ago that was quite good because
it delineated by not only race, but by economic status:

the common shortcoming in all of this discussion is that crime is often
an economically-driven activity, so to try to determine the effect of
race as a variable while failing to normalize the data by income results
in incorrectly equating crime to whoever statistically is more likely to
be poorer than other races (eg, blacks).

> The graphic on 108 shows
> 4% of the murder victims as white. 137 has arrests by race but doesn't do
> a breakdown by incident type. 8% of the arrestees are white. Blacks, black
> Hispanics, and the confusing white Hispanics comprise 91% of the arrests.
> Back on 108, 94% of the murder victims were white Hispanics or black.
>
> I used to have a link to a 2011 CPD report that broke the murders by race.
> About 4% of the perpetrators or victims were white. Chicago would be a
> nice place if the blacks and Hispanics could refrain from killing each
> other. Sometimes whites get caught in the crossfire.

Everywhere would be a nicer place ... if there weren't poor people
living there. /s

-hh

-hh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 9/13/24 2:31 AM, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:36:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> Get a clue on how much violence against whites is perpetrated by blacks,
>>> and it almost *never* makes the news.
>>
>> https://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2023-Annual-Report.pdf
>>
>> The format was easier to interpret in the past.
>
> I can recall some reporting from years ago that was quite good because
> it delineated by not only race, but by economic status:
>
> the common shortcoming in all of this discussion is that crime is often
> an economically-driven activity, so to try to determine the effect of
> race as a variable while failing to normalize the data by income results
> in incorrectly equating crime to whoever statistically is more likely to
> be poorer than other races (eg, blacks).

^
|
----- This.
>> The graphic on 108 shows
>> 4% of the murder victims as white. 137 has arrests by race but doesn't do
>> a breakdown by incident type. 8% of the arrestees are white. Blacks, black
>> Hispanics, and the confusing white Hispanics comprise 91% of the arrests.
>> Back on 108, 94% of the murder victims were white Hispanics or black.
>>
>> I used to have a link to a 2011 CPD report that broke the murders by race.
>> About 4% of the perpetrators or victims were white. Chicago would be a
>> nice place if the blacks and Hispanics could refrain from killing each
>> other. Sometimes whites get caught in the crossfire.
>
> Everywhere would be a nicer place ... if there weren't poor people
> living there. /s

Chicago is a nice place (mostly). Our family visited there a few months ago and
it was fun.

(As a kid, my dad would take us into Chicago on Amtrak. We'd pass by tenements
on the way in. Then we'd go to places like Wrigley Field, the Shedd Aquarium,
the glorious Museum of Science & Industry....)

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On 9/13/24 11:03 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> -hh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 9/13/24 2:31 AM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:36:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get a clue on how much violence against whites is perpetrated by blacks,
>>>> and it almost *never* makes the news.
>>>
>>> https://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2023-Annual-Report.pdf
>>>
>>> The format was easier to interpret in the past.
>>
>> I can recall some reporting from years ago that was quite good because
>> it delineated by not only race, but by economic status:
>>
>> the common shortcoming in all of this discussion is that crime is often
>> an economically-driven activity, so to try to determine the effect of
>> race as a variable while failing to normalize the data by income results
>> in incorrectly equating crime to whoever statistically is more likely to
>> be poorer than other races (eg, blacks).
>
> ^
> |
> ----- This.

Yup, and it is very old news for COLA readers. Case in point, receipts
from 2018 on this same topic (the usual suspects seem to never learn):

[quote]
On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 6:03:46 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 1:04:24 PM UTC-7, chrisv wrote:
> > SilverSlimer wrote:
> >
> > >The moment anyone is actually willing to read chrisv's political
> > >opinion is the moment Western Civilization officially dies.
> >
> > That's really funny, coming from you, Slimer.
> >
> > Tell us, again, how the criminal justice system in the US has a
> > racial bias, and that it favors blacks.
>
> I'll see your 'bogus bias' claim and raise you one glaring reality...
>
> "According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans
> accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008"
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States>
>
> Wait, that can't be right! Or can it? After all, blacks are only
> about 13.5% of the total population. Ah, I almost forgot...

Forgot to read this section of the same reference....right?

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Explanations_for_racial_discrepancies>

Plus there's also this section which mentions economics a lot:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#Modern_theories_of_causation>

(Hint: statistical distributions of wealth-poverty vs race).

And this is referenced too:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_in_the_United_States_criminal_justice_system#Causes_of_racial_disproportionality>

So no, it isn't as cut and dry a skin color issue as you're trying to
make it.

-hh
[/quote]

Citation:
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/cdDDgQ9PHGA/m/OthNMByeBAAJ>

And following in that same thread, another receipt:

"Income inequality alone explained 74% of the variance in murder
rates and half of the aggravated assaults. However, social capital
had an even stronger association and, by itself, accounted for 82%
of homicides and 61% of assaults."

<https://www.zippia.com/advice/crime-income-inequality/>

TL;DR: poverty is a vastly stronger (~4:1) factor over mere race.

-hh

>>> The graphic on 108 shows
>>> 4% of the murder victims as white. 137 has arrests by race but doesn't do
>>> a breakdown by incident type. 8% of the arrestees are white. Blacks, black
>>> Hispanics, and the confusing white Hispanics comprise 91% of the arrests.
>>> Back on 108, 94% of the murder victims were white Hispanics or black.
>>>
>>> I used to have a link to a 2011 CPD report that broke the murders by race.
>>> About 4% of the perpetrators or victims were white. Chicago would be a
>>> nice place if the blacks and Hispanics could refrain from killing each
>>> other. Sometimes whites get caught in the crossfire.
>>
>> Everywhere would be a nicer place ... if there weren't poor people
>> living there. /s
>
> Chicago is a nice place (mostly). Our family visited there a few months ago and
> it was fun.
>
> (As a kid, my dad would take us into Chicago on Amtrak. We'd pass by tenements
> on the way in. Then we'd go to places like Wrigley Field, the Shedd Aquarium,
> the glorious Museum of Science & Industry....)
>

Nice. I've yet to actually spend personal time in Chicago as an adult;
had family who had lived in one of the suburbs (don't even know where).

And yeah, the U-505 U-boat at the Museum of Science & Industry is still
on my bucket list, pretty much ever since I'd read the book on its
capture on the high seas just before the end of WW-II. I really should
track that title down to re-read.

-hh

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:18:27 -0400, -hh wrote:

> the common shortcoming in all of this discussion is that crime is often
> an economically-driven activity, so to try to determine the effect of
> race as a variable while failing to normalize the data by income results
> in incorrectly equating crime to whoever statistically is more likely to
> be poorer than other races (eg, blacks).

Then you can push the discussion to why blacks are more likely to be
poorer. Setting aside the recent influx of Somalis, Haitians, and so forth
most black families have roots in the US older than the whites. Every
other group, including Irish, southern Europeans, Asians, and Hispanics
were discriminated against but seem to have caught on,

I suppose you don't think there are any poor white people in Chicago.

https://www.wbez.org/curious-city/2015/08/12/where-are-chicagos-poor-
white-neighborhoods

"Why doesn’t Chicago have concentrated white poverty?
This follow-up question is a logical one, given that whites represent the
largest group of poor people in the United States."

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 11:03:01 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Chicago is a nice place (mostly). Our family visited there a few months
> ago and it was fun.
>
> (As a kid, my dad would take us into Chicago on Amtrak. We'd pass by
> tenements on the way in. Then we'd go to places like Wrigley Field, the
> Shedd Aquarium, the glorious Museum of Science & Industry....)

The first time I was in Chicago the desk clerk at the Holiday Inn said
'Enjoy your stay. Just don't go south of Roosevelt Road'. That was saying
something since the Holiday Inn was on Halsted and Madison or Monroe, I
forget which. SRO flophouses flourished off Halsted and the bar across
from the hotel sold individual cigarettes for the convenience of patrons
who couldn't afford a pack.

I did go south of Roosevelt. A friend was at the University so I drove
down only to find she was on a dig in Central America.

When I was in Ft. Wayne I did take Amtrak up. It was fun but I definitely
didn't walk south of Roosevelt.

On 9/13/2024 2:19 PM, -hh wrote:

> TL;DR:  poverty is a vastly stronger (~4:1) factor over mere race.

It's the other way around, at best. The crime genes wind all throughout
their violent, anti-social, inferior African DNA.

We've had 2 self-identified blacks here on cola. One of them was "Big
Steel", and his father hunted down and gunshot murdered a man he had a
verbal disagreement with. Probably over chicken wing seasoning or
something equally nonsensical.

Then there's the city of Chicago. heyjackass.com

Then there's the National Felon League.

Then there's the FACT that there are significantly more poor Whites in
America, but they don't exhibit anywhere near the crime rate of poor blacks.

Face facts: You can't take the jungle out of the bunny, no matter how
much money and civilization you toss at them.

knowumsayin?

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 07:10:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> On 2024-09-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:08:52 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Am I supposed to think they targeted him because of race, or
>>> something?
>>> There's nothing to suggest that's so. It was probably one of those
>>> teen-boy violence things, that unfortunately happen. It's repugnant,
>>> but not unheard of.
>>
>> Oh for fuck's sake..
>
> Joel is a dipshit. They're "targeted" because they're the ones
> committing the crimes. Don't want to go to jail? Don't steal, burn or
> murder. Non problem solved.

He's apparently led a sheltered life with that teen-boy violence remark.
Springsteen even wrote a song that reflects my life experience.

"In '65 tension was running high at my school
There was a lot of fights 'tween the black and white
There was nothing you could do."

'My Hometown'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77gKSp8WoRg

rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 07:10:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2024-09-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:08:52 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am I supposed to think they targeted him because of race, or
>>>> something?
>>>> There's nothing to suggest that's so. It was probably one of those
>>>> teen-boy violence things, that unfortunately happen. It's repugnant,
>>>> but not unheard of.
>>>
>>> Oh for fuck's sake..
>>
>> Joel is a dipshit. They're "targeted" because they're the ones
>> committing the crimes. Don't want to go to jail? Don't steal, burn or
>> murder. Non problem solved.
>
> He's apparently led a sheltered life with that teen-boy violence remark.
> Springsteen even wrote a song that reflects my life experience.
>
> "In '65 tension was running high at my school
> There was a lot of fights 'tween the black and white
> There was nothing you could do."
>
> 'My Hometown'
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77gKSp8WoRg
>

no springsteen does not write his songs about you , honest

On 9/13/24 3:31 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:18:27 -0400, -hh wrote:
>
>> the common shortcoming in all of this discussion is that crime is often
>> an economically-driven activity, so to try to determine the effect of
>> race as a variable while failing to normalize the data by income results
>> in incorrectly equating crime to whoever statistically is more likely to
>> be poorer than other races (eg, blacks).
>
> Then you can push the discussion to why blacks are more likely to be
> poorer. Setting aside the recent influx of Somalis, Haitians, and so forth
> most black families have roots in the US older than the whites. Every
> other group, including Irish, southern Europeans, Asians, and Hispanics
> were discriminated against but seem to have caught on,

Oh? So how many million Irish were enslaved on farms & plantations?
Likewise, how many Irish were deliberately denied a literacy education?

> I suppose you don't think there are any poor white people in Chicago.

No, I understand that. But how many of those Irish (or Asians,
Hispanics) were "redlined" to deny them from a mortgage?

[quote]
The term “redlining” was coined by sociologist John McKnight in the
1960s and is derived from the practice—used by the federal government
and lenders—of literally drawing a red line on a map around the
neighborhoods where they would not invest based on demographics alone.

Black, inner-city neighborhoods were most likely to be redlined.
Investigations found that lenders would make loans to lower-income White
borrowers but not to middle- or upper-income Black borrowers.{1}

{1}: The Federal Reserve. "Federal Reserve Bulletin: Volume 77, Number
11," Page 872.
[/quote]

<https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/redlining.asp>

FYI, redlining wasn't officially banned until the Fair Housing Act in
1968 ... but as we know from lawsuits against Trump's slum lord father,
racial discrimination in practice is hard to police continued since.

-hh

>
> https://www.wbez.org/curious-city/2015/08/12/where-are-chicagos-poor-
> white-neighborhoods
>
> "Why doesn’t Chicago have concentrated white poverty?
> This follow-up question is a logical one, given that whites represent the
> largest group of poor people in the United States."
>
>
>
>

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 07:10:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-09-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:08:52 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am I supposed to think they targeted him because of race, or
>>>> something?
>>>> There's nothing to suggest that's so. It was probably one of those
>>>> teen-boy violence things, that unfortunately happen. It's repugnant,
>>>> but not unheard of.
>>>
>>> Oh for fuck's sake..
>>
>> Joel is a dipshit. They're "targeted" because they're the ones
>> committing the crimes. Don't want to go to jail? Don't steal, burn or
>> murder. Non problem solved.
>
>He's apparently led a sheltered life with that teen-boy violence remark.
>Springsteen even wrote a song that reflects my life experience.
>
>"In '65 tension was running high at my school
>There was a lot of fights 'tween the black and white
>There was nothing you could do."
>
>'My Hometown'
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77gKSp8WoRg

I knew a guy who got beat down by a group of black guys, actually, I'm
not unfamiliar with the phenomenon, but it tends to come from beef
between peers, not just an outright hate crime. That's what I was
saying.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 9/13/24 3:31 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:18:27 -0400, -hh wrote:
>
>> the common shortcoming in all of this discussion is that crime is often
>> an economically-driven activity, so to try to determine the effect of
>> race as a variable while failing to normalize the data by income results
>> in incorrectly equating crime to whoever statistically is more likely to
>> be poorer than other races (eg, blacks).
>
> Then you can push the discussion to why blacks are more likely to be
> poorer.

See my post to DFS.

> Setting aside the recent influx of Somalis, Haitians, and so forth
> most black families have roots in the US older than the whites. > Every
> other group, including Irish, southern Europeans, Asians, and Hispanics
> were discriminated against but seem to have caught on,

Except for how racially based redlining didn't become illegal until
1968, so those who are more recent arrivals weren't so handicapped.

And another factor is that while nearly all of the Civil War's
emancipated black slaves were dirt-poor, not all immigrants arrived as
equally dirt-poor, so on an economic basis, they don't have an
equivalent starting point to make an comparison free from this bias.

> I suppose you don't think there are any poor white people in Chicago.

Never suggested that there weren't any.

>
> https://www.wbez.org/curious-city/2015/08/12/where-are-chicagos-poor-
> white-neighborhoods
>
> "Why doesn’t Chicago have concentrated white poverty?
> This follow-up question is a logical one, given that whites represent the
> largest group of poor people in the United States."

Normalized by race? Let's see your numbers, with substantiation.

-hh

-hh wrote:

>I can recall some reporting from years ago that was quite good because
>it delineated by not only race, but by economic status:

Their whining about being targeted because their race is a black
think.

Also, blacks have a particular disregard for other people. They kill
each other for the smallest of infractions!

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>-hh wrote:
>
>>I can recall some reporting from years ago that was quite good because
>>it delineated by not only race, but by economic status:
>
>Their whining about being targeted because their race is a black
>think.
>
>Also, blacks have a particular disregard for other people. They kill
>each other for the smallest of infractions!

How are you a grown person, talking like that? Like "blacks" are a
monolith. JFC.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-09-13, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> -hh wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 9/13/24 2:31 AM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:36:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get a clue on how much violence against whites is perpetrated by blacks,
>>>> and it almost *never* makes the news.
>>>
>>> https://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2023-Annual-Report.pdf
>>>
>>> The format was easier to interpret in the past.
>>
>> I can recall some reporting from years ago that was quite good because
>> it delineated by not only race, but by economic status:
>>
>> the common shortcoming in all of this discussion is that crime is often
>> an economically-driven activity, so to try to determine the effect of
>> race as a variable while failing to normalize the data by income results
>> in incorrectly equating crime to whoever statistically is more likely to
>> be poorer than other races (eg, blacks).
>
> ^
> |
> ----- This.

So the "solution" is to let the poor blacks and Latinos (illegal aliens)
steal and murder because they're poor? There are a lot of poor whites also
and, since there many more whites than blacks, probably a much larger
percentage of poor whites. Why don't their crime numbers inundate black
crime numbers just because of to sheer "advantage" in volume?

>>> The graphic on 108 shows
>>> 4% of the murder victims as white. 137 has arrests by race but doesn't do
>>> a breakdown by incident type. 8% of the arrestees are white. Blacks, black
>>> Hispanics, and the confusing white Hispanics comprise 91% of the arrests.
>>> Back on 108, 94% of the murder victims were white Hispanics or black.
>>>
>>> I used to have a link to a 2011 CPD report that broke the murders by race.
>>> About 4% of the perpetrators or victims were white. Chicago would be a
>>> nice place if the blacks and Hispanics could refrain from killing each
>>> other. Sometimes whites get caught in the crossfire.
>>
>> Everywhere would be a nicer place ... if there weren't poor people
>> living there. /s
>
> Chicago is a nice place (mostly). Our family visited there a few months ago and
> it was fun.
>
> (As a kid, my dad would take us into Chicago on Amtrak. We'd pass by tenements
> on the way in. Then we'd go to places like Wrigley Field, the Shedd Aquarium,
> the glorious Museum of Science & Industry....)

A nice place to get killed. "Only" 401 murders so far this year. They're in
a murder "slump."

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-09-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:18:27 -0400, -hh wrote:
>
>> the common shortcoming in all of this discussion is that crime is often
>> an economically-driven activity, so to try to determine the effect of
>> race as a variable while failing to normalize the data by income results
>> in incorrectly equating crime to whoever statistically is more likely to
>> be poorer than other races (eg, blacks).
>
> Then you can push the discussion to why blacks are more likely to be
> poorer. Setting aside the recent influx of Somalis, Haitians, and so forth
> most black families have roots in the US older than the whites. Every
> other group, including Irish, southern Europeans, Asians, and Hispanics
> were discriminated against but seem to have caught on,
>
> I suppose you don't think there are any poor white people in Chicago.
>
> https://www.wbez.org/curious-city/2015/08/12/where-are-chicagos-poor-
> white-neighborhoods
>
> "Why doesn’t Chicago have concentrated white poverty?
> This follow-up question is a logical one, given that whites represent the
> largest group of poor people in the United States."

Don Lemon (in a rare moment of honesty) said the reason there are so many
poor blacks is because they're are so few black, two parent, families. The
last stats I saw showed that over 2/3 of black kids live in a single parent
family. The boys grow up and find their "father figures" in gang members.
Teenage girls have babies so they can go on welfare. This is guaranteed to
lead to a life of crime (and jail time).

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-09-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 07:10:03 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2024-09-13, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:08:52 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am I supposed to think they targeted him because of race, or
>>>> something?
>>>> There's nothing to suggest that's so. It was probably one of those
>>>> teen-boy violence things, that unfortunately happen. It's repugnant,
>>>> but not unheard of.
>>>
>>> Oh for fuck's sake..
>>
>> Joel is a dipshit. They're "targeted" because they're the ones
>> committing the crimes. Don't want to go to jail? Don't steal, burn or
>> murder. Non problem solved.
>
> He's apparently led a sheltered life with that teen-boy violence remark.
> Springsteen even wrote a song that reflects my life experience.
>
> "In '65 tension was running high at my school
> There was a lot of fights 'tween the black and white
> There was nothing you could do."
>
> 'My Hometown'
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77gKSp8WoRg

They're in denial. It doesn't fit their Woke BS, so they ignore the truth
and regurgitate stupidity. The schools have done a good job of conditioning
people to respond emotionally rather than rationally. They're easily
triggered and controlled with a few choice buzzwords and catch phrases.

ChrisA is a prime example of this. He has blinders on.

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what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 2024-09-13, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> -hh wrote:
>
>>I can recall some reporting from years ago that was quite good because
>>it delineated by not only race, but by economic status:
>
> Their whining about being targeted because their race is a black
> think.
>
> Also, blacks have a particular disregard for other people. They kill
> each other for the smallest of infractions!

And if innocent people get killed in the middle of their continual gang
warfare, they just don't give a damn. This is the result of constantly being
told they are being "oppressed" while they continually oppress (rob and
murder) others without compunction or empathy. Most urban crime in the U.S.
is black on black crime. Life is cheap to the gang members.

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“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 16:15:49 -0400, -hh wrote:

> No, I understand that. But how many of those Irish (or Asians,
> Hispanics) were "redlined" to deny them from a mortgage?

How many blacks were affected by the Page Act of 18875 or the Chinese
Exclusion Act of 1882? Leland Stanford couldn't have built the Central
Pacific without what amounted to Chinese slave labor.

How many blacks were rounded up and sent to camps like Manzanar, Heart
Mountain or Tule Lake? Have yuo ever been to those sites? Very scenic. To
add insult to injury some Nisei were drafted out of the concentration
camps. Then when the Japanese were released they found their business and
homes had been sold to whites.

Hispanics and whites were never redlined?

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/americas-formerly-redlines-areas-
changed-so-must-solutions/

Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>-hh wrote:
>>
>>>I can recall some reporting from years ago that was quite good because
>>>it delineated by not only race, but by economic status:
>>
>>Their whining about being targeted because their race is a black
>>think.
>>
>>Also, blacks have a particular disregard for other people. They kill
>>each other for the smallest of infractions!

Actually, that is also true of Southerners. Small insults are an affront to
honor worthy of violence, whereas Northerners tend to laugh it off.

> How are you a grown person, talking like that? Like "blacks" are a
> monolith. JFC.

That's the story of stereotyping.

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