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* Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9vallor
+- Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9Joel
+* Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9Andrzej Matuch
|+* Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9RonB
||`- Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9Andrzej Matuch
|`- Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9vallor
`* Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9Chris Ahlstrom
 `- Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9Andrzej Matuch

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Subject: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
From: vallor
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 22:49 UTC
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From: vallor@cultnix.org (vallor)
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Subject: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 22:49:06 -0000 (UTC)
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So NVidia has an open driver now that does most everything the
proprietary driver does -- I think it only leaves out CUDA.

It certainly has Vulkan. I'm running the stuff now, because at one point,
the proprietary binary blob had an issue with the 6.9 kernel. Used it for
a long gaming session last night, and knock-on-wood, it was flawless.

The game -- Elite Dangerous Odyssey -- uses DX, which proton translates
using DXVK into Vulkan calls.

https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules

NVidia says they are transitioning to the open driver. Good for them!

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Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
From: Joel
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 22:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
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vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

>So NVidia has an open driver now that does most everything the
>proprietary driver does -- I think it only leaves out CUDA.
>
>It certainly has Vulkan. I'm running the stuff now, because at one point,
>the proprietary binary blob had an issue with the 6.9 kernel. Used it for
>a long gaming session last night, and knock-on-wood, it was flawless.
>
>The game -- Elite Dangerous Odyssey -- uses DX, which proton translates
>using DXVK into Vulkan calls.
>
>https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules
>
>NVidia says they are transitioning to the open driver. Good for them!

Interesting! I had not heard about this at all, until your post. I
look forward to Mint incorporating it, as a distro lackey. ;)

--
Joel W. Crump

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nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
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liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
From: Andrzej Matuch
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 00:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
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On Thu, 16 May 2024 22:49:06 +0000, vallor wrote:

> So NVidia has an open driver now that does most everything the
> proprietary driver does -- I think it only leaves out CUDA.
>
> It certainly has Vulkan. I'm running the stuff now, because at one
> point,
> the proprietary binary blob had an issue with the 6.9 kernel. Used it
> for a long gaming session last night, and knock-on-wood, it was
> flawless.
>
> The game -- Elite Dangerous Odyssey -- uses DX, which proton translates
> using DXVK into Vulkan calls.
>
> https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules
>
> NVidia says they are transitioning to the open driver. Good for them!

Is there a chance this open driver will be included in the kernel in
future releases? This actually solves a large amount of issues, and it
will definitely narrow the gap for game performance between Windows and
Linux (since the open-source AMD driver makes games run better in Linux
than in Windows).

Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
From: RonB
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Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 04:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
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On 2024-05-17, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2024 22:49:06 +0000, vallor wrote:
>
>> So NVidia has an open driver now that does most everything the
>> proprietary driver does -- I think it only leaves out CUDA.
>>
>> It certainly has Vulkan. I'm running the stuff now, because at one
>> point,
>> the proprietary binary blob had an issue with the 6.9 kernel. Used it
>> for a long gaming session last night, and knock-on-wood, it was
>> flawless.
>>
>> The game -- Elite Dangerous Odyssey -- uses DX, which proton translates
>> using DXVK into Vulkan calls.
>>
>> https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules
>>
>> NVidia says they are transitioning to the open driver. Good for them!
>
> Is there a chance this open driver will be included in the kernel in
> future releases? This actually solves a large amount of issues, and it
> will definitely narrow the gap for game performance between Windows and
> Linux (since the open-source AMD driver makes games run better in Linux
> than in Windows).

Maybe the Steam Deck is doing better than I thought.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
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Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
From: Andrzej Matuch
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Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
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On Fri, 17 May 2024 04:11:14 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2024-05-17, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 May 2024 22:49:06 +0000, vallor wrote:
>>
>>> So NVidia has an open driver now that does most everything the
>>> proprietary driver does -- I think it only leaves out CUDA.
>>>
>>> It certainly has Vulkan. I'm running the stuff now, because at one
>>> point,
>>> the proprietary binary blob had an issue with the 6.9 kernel. Used it
>>> for a long gaming session last night, and knock-on-wood, it was
>>> flawless.
>>>
>>> The game -- Elite Dangerous Odyssey -- uses DX, which proton
>>> translates using DXVK into Vulkan calls.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules
>>>
>>> NVidia says they are transitioning to the open driver. Good for them!
>>
>> Is there a chance this open driver will be included in the kernel in
>> future releases? This actually solves a large amount of issues, and it
>> will definitely narrow the gap for game performance between Windows and
>> Linux (since the open-source AMD driver makes games run better in Linux
>> than in Windows).
>
> Maybe the Steam Deck is doing better than I thought.

The competition it is receiving suggests that it was enough of a threat
for both ASUS and MSI to deliver clones. The latter two have the advantage
that the console can access all games directly from Windows, unlike Linux
through the Steam Deck.

Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> So NVidia has an open driver now that does most everything the
> proprietary driver does -- I think it only leaves out CUDA.
>
> It certainly has Vulkan. I'm running the stuff now, because at one point,
> the proprietary binary blob had an issue with the 6.9 kernel. Used it for
> a long gaming session last night, and knock-on-wood, it was flawless.
>
> The game -- Elite Dangerous Odyssey -- uses DX, which proton translates
> using DXVK into Vulkan calls.
>
> https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules
>
> NVidia says they are transitioning to the open driver. Good for them!
=============

Do not use that word around here!!! :-D

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Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
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On Fri, 17 May 2024 08:17:44 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> So NVidia has an open driver now that does most everything the
>> proprietary driver does -- I think it only leaves out CUDA.
>>
>> It certainly has Vulkan. I'm running the stuff now, because at one
>> point,
>> the proprietary binary blob had an issue with the 6.9 kernel. Used it
>> for a long gaming session last night, and knock-on-wood, it was
>> flawless.
>>
>> The game -- Elite Dangerous Odyssey -- uses DX, which proton translates
>> using DXVK into Vulkan calls.
>>
>> https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules
>>
>> NVidia says they are transitioning to the open driver. Good for them!
> =============
>
> Do not use that word around here!!! :-D

It is the only proper use of the term.

Subject: Re: Running open nvidia driver on Linux 6.9
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On 17 May 2024 00:11:10 GMT, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote in
<6646a09e$2$6546$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> On Thu, 16 May 2024 22:49:06 +0000, vallor wrote:
>
>> So NVidia has an open driver now that does most everything the
>> proprietary driver does -- I think it only leaves out CUDA.
>>
>> It certainly has Vulkan. I'm running the stuff now, because at one
>> point,
>> the proprietary binary blob had an issue with the 6.9 kernel. Used it
>> for a long gaming session last night, and knock-on-wood, it was
>> flawless.
>>
>> The game -- Elite Dangerous Odyssey -- uses DX, which proton translates
>> using DXVK into Vulkan calls.
>>
>> https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules
>>
>> NVidia says they are transitioning to the open driver. Good for them!
>
> Is there a chance this open driver will be included in the kernel in
> future releases? This actually solves a large amount of issues, and it
> will definitely narrow the gap for game performance between Windows and
> Linux (since the open-source AMD driver makes games run better in Linux
> than in Windows).

I honestly don't know if it will be added to the kernel. I just installed
another binary blob driver along with the CUDA environment, so my
experiments with the open driver have ended for a while.

See my other post about CUDA regarding this.

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