The sophisticated computer user (like most GNU/Linux users) knows
his mathematics/statistics. After all, math underlies ALL programming
and programming is what GNU/Linux is all about (we exclude the pussy
distros of Ubuntu/Mint/et.al.).

Below is a list of the land areas, in km^2, of 20 nation states (it
doesn't matter what the names are).

There are two columns of area data. One is true. The other is fake.

Which one is which?

Explain your answer.

The other possibility is that an answer cannot be given based on
the data.

If so, explain.

My prediction: NONE of the dumb-shit COLA lackeys will get it.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

GNU/Linux is for the SUPERIOR.

Land areas of 20 nation states in km^2.
One column has phony data. Which one is it?
Or can an answer be given?
----------------------------------------------
S01 645,807 796,467
S02 28,748 9,943
S03 2,381,741 3,168,262
S04 197 301
S05 464 577
S06 96 82
S07 442 949
S08 2,777,409 4,021,545
S09 29,743 54,159
S10 193 367
S11 7,682,557 6,563,132
S12 83,858 64,154
S13 86,530 71,661
S14 13,962 9,125
S15 694 755
S16 142,615 347,722
S17 431 818
S18 30,518 47,123
S19 22,965 20,648
S20 112,620 97,768

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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

>GNU/Linux is for the SUPERIOR.

"Superior" at using a computer doesn't make you superior to another
person, dude, just forget that you can lord your Gentoo build over
everything.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Aug 23, 2024 at 3:01:24 PM EDT, "Farley Flud" <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

> The sophisticated computer user (like most GNU/Linux users) knows
> his mathematics/statistics. After all, math underlies ALL programming

AGAIN, no it does not. LOGIC underlies all programming.

> There are two columns of area data. One is true. The other is fake.
>
> Which one is which?
>
> Explain your answer.

The only thing that can possibly be done to "prove" anything is to add up the
2 columns. Column 1 adds up to 14,041,590. Column 2 adds up to 15,275,558.
The total land area of Earth is 149 million km2.

These numbers immediately got my attention.

Given that you have demonstrated over and over and over that you know nothing
about math OR programming, the obvious answer is you added these up and
somehow got the commas in the wrong place, so you think that column 2 is more
than the total land area of Earth. 152 million versus 149 million total land
area.

So by that (wrong) logic, column 2 is fake and column 1 is correct with 140
million.

Otherwise, there is not enough info here to determine anything.

So the answer is, you don't know how to do math on Linux OR no answer is
possible. You of course will deny that you fucked up, so therefore no answer
is possible.

On Aug 23, 2024 at 9:37:24 PM EDT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:

> On Aug 23, 2024 at 3:01:24 PM EDT, "Farley Flud" <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>
>> The sophisticated computer user (like most GNU/Linux users) knows
>> his mathematics/statistics. After all, math underlies ALL programming
>
> AGAIN, no it does not. LOGIC underlies all programming.
>
>> There are two columns of area data. One is true. The other is fake.
>>
>> Which one is which?
>>
>> Explain your answer.
>
> The only thing that can possibly be done to "prove" anything is to add up the
> 2 columns. Column 1 adds up to 14,041,590. Column 2 adds up to 15,275,558.
> The total land area of Earth is 149 million km2.
>
> These numbers immediately got my attention.
>
> Given that you have demonstrated over and over and over that you know nothing
> about math OR programming, the obvious answer is you added these up and
> somehow got the commas in the wrong place, so you think that column 2 is more
> than the total land area of Earth. 152 million versus 149 million total land
> area.
>
> So by that (wrong) logic, column 2 is fake and column 1 is correct with 140
> million.

I forgot to add that, even if column 2 IS wrong, that does not prove that
column 1 is correct. Logically (again, that thing that you deny) this only
proves that column 2 can't be correct. Column 1 could still be wrong, but
there is not enough info here to prove that.

As always, logic is the primary requirement here. The math is secondary and
extremely simple.

On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 19:01:24 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

>
> Land areas of 20 nation states in km^2.
> One column has phony data. Which one is it?
> Or can an answer be given?
> ----------------------------------------------
> S01 645,807 796,467
> S02 28,748 9,943
> S03 2,381,741 3,168,262
> S04 197 301
> S05 464 577
> S06 96 82
> S07 442 949
> S08 2,777,409 4,021,545
> S09 29,743 54,159
> S10 193 367
> S11 7,682,557 6,563,132
> S12 83,858 64,154
> S13 86,530 71,661
> S14 13,962 9,125
> S15 694 755
> S16 142,615 347,722
> S17 431 818
> S18 30,518 47,123
> S19 22,965 20,648
> S20 112,620 97,768
>

First, consider the nature of the data. Is is measured data (as opposed
to assigned data) that is associated with a unit (km^2).

Second, the data extends over several orders of magnitude, from 10^2
to 10^6.

Third, land area is essentially a power relation, i.e. area = length^2.

Thus, these aspects are nearly perfect for Benford's Law to apply:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford%27s_law

Looking at the second column, it seen that the first digit "9" occurs
4/20 = 20% of the time. This would never happen with Benford's Law.

Therefore, column 2 is the phony data.

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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 10:32 this Saturday (GMT):
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 19:01:24 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>
>>
>> Land areas of 20 nation states in km^2.
>> One column has phony data. Which one is it?
>> Or can an answer be given?
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> S01 645,807 796,467
>> S02 28,748 9,943
>> S03 2,381,741 3,168,262
>> S04 197 301
>> S05 464 577
>> S06 96 82
>> S07 442 949
>> S08 2,777,409 4,021,545
>> S09 29,743 54,159
>> S10 193 367
>> S11 7,682,557 6,563,132
>> S12 83,858 64,154
>> S13 86,530 71,661
>> S14 13,962 9,125
>> S15 694 755
>> S16 142,615 347,722
>> S17 431 818
>> S18 30,518 47,123
>> S19 22,965 20,648
>> S20 112,620 97,768
>>
>
> First, consider the nature of the data. Is is measured data (as opposed
> to assigned data) that is associated with a unit (km^2).
>
> Second, the data extends over several orders of magnitude, from 10^2
> to 10^6.
>
> Third, land area is essentially a power relation, i.e. area = length^2.
>
> Thus, these aspects are nearly perfect for Benford's Law to apply:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford%27s_law
>
> Looking at the second column, it seen that the first digit "9" occurs
> 4/20 = 20% of the time. This would never happen with Benford's Law.
>
> Therefore, column 2 is the phony data.

Thanks, thats actually a cool tool to use
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 16:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

>>
>> Thus, these aspects are nearly perfect for Benford's Law to apply:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford%27s_law
>>
>
> Thanks, thats actually a cool tool to use
>

Benford's Law is actually admissible in a court of law in cases
of accounting fraud. It is also used in election fraud.

But from a mathematical perspective, Benford's Law is still not
rigorously proven, which means that it is still largely empirical.

Only as recently as the 1990's was an "explanation" given which
is not mentioned in the WikiPedia article.

The point remains, however, that the programmer has to know how
to analyze data.

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