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Subject: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: Chris Ahlstrom
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Organization: None
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 16:27 UTC

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From README.FAQ in the rxvt-unicode:

I use Gentoo, and I have a problem...
There are two big problems with Gentoo Linux: first, most if not all
Gentoo systems are completely broken (missing or mismatched header
files, broken compiler etc. are just the tip of the iceberg); secondly,
it should be called Gentoo GNU/Linux.

For these reasons, it is impossible to support rxvt-unicode on Gentoo.
Problems appearing on Gentoo systems will usually simply be ignored
unless they can be reproduced on non-Gentoo systems.

--
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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: Farley Flud
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 16:52 UTC
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From: fflud@gnu.rocks (Farley Flud)
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:27:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>
> There are two big problems with ...
>

There are two big problems with YOUR brains and YOUR cock.

Both are WAY too small.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

A penis pump may address the second problem.

The first? Sue your mother and father.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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F^2

Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: Chris Ahlstrom
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Organization: None
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2024 11:40 UTC
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Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:27:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>
>> There are two big problems with ...
>>
>
> There are two big problems with YOUR brains and YOUR cock.
>
> Both are WAY too small.
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
> A penis pump may address the second problem.
> The first? Sue your mother and father.
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Heh heh, made ya look.

Actually, Gentoo Linux provides a web page discussing rxvt-unicode.

I just wanted to jive yo ass!

--
You are deeply attached to your friends and acquaintances.

From: ff@linux.rocks (Farley Flud)
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On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 07:40:50 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>
> Heh heh, made ya look.
>

Did you just graduate from the fourth grade?

GNU/Linux requires more than just juvenile boot camp.

>
> Actually, Gentoo Linux provides a web page discussing rxvt-unicode.
>

Rxvt-unicode is bloated and has problems in other areas.

Just stick with tried-and-true xterm; it has full Unicode
capabilities:

https://invisible-island.net/xterm/

--
F^2

Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 14:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
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Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 07:40:50 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Heh heh, made ya look.
>
> Did you just graduate from the fourth grade?

Nah, just stooping to your level.

>> Actually, Gentoo Linux provides a web page discussing rxvt-unicode.
>
> Rxvt-unicode is bloated and has problems in other areas.

Bloated? I don't think so.

On my Arch box, the issue with urxvt and tmux (showing rgb-related stuff
on the command-line at startup) came back.

Looking into it again, too patchy, too aged.

So I'm back to xfce4-terminal on Arch. Still with rxvt-unicode on Ubuntu.

> Just stick with tried-and-true xterm; it has full Unicode
> capabilities:
>
> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/

I've found a variety of opinions one way or the other.

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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: candycanearter07
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Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 14:29 this Monday (GMT):
> Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 07:40:50 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Heh heh, made ya look.
>>
>> Did you just graduate from the fourth grade?
>
> Nah, just stooping to your level.
>
>>> Actually, Gentoo Linux provides a web page discussing rxvt-unicode.
>>
>> Rxvt-unicode is bloated and has problems in other areas.
>
> Bloated? I don't think so.
>
> On my Arch box, the issue with urxvt and tmux (showing rgb-related stuff
> on the command-line at startup) came back.
>
> Looking into it again, too patchy, too aged.
>
> So I'm back to xfce4-terminal on Arch. Still with rxvt-unicode on Ubuntu.
>
>> Just stick with tried-and-true xterm; it has full Unicode
>> capabilities:
>>
>> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/
>
> I've found a variety of opinions one way or the other.

Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program

also i switched from urxvt to wezterm
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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
> fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
> scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program
>
> also i switched from urxvt to wezterm

Thanks, will look into wezterm. Does it implement tmux-style functionality?

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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: candycanearter07
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Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 19:34 this Tuesday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
>> fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
>> scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program
>>
>> also i switched from urxvt to wezterm
>
> Thanks, will look into wezterm. Does it implement tmux-style functionality?

In what way? It has tabs, if that's what you mean.
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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 19:34 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
>>> fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
>>> scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program
>>>
>>> also i switched from urxvt to wezterm
>>
>> Thanks, will look into wezterm. Does it implement tmux-style functionality?
>
> In what way? It has tabs, if that's what you mean.

https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/escape-sequences.html#dcs-device-control-string

DCS 1000 q tmux control mode Bridges tmux into the WezTerm multiplexer.
Currently incomplete, see this issue for status.

Curious. To be continued....

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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
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Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 11:11 this Wednesday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 19:34 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
>>>> fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
>>>> scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program
>>>>
>>>> also i switched from urxvt to wezterm
>>>
>>> Thanks, will look into wezterm. Does it implement tmux-style functionality?
>>
>> In what way? It has tabs, if that's what you mean.
>
>
> https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/escape-sequences.html#dcs-device-control-string
>
> DCS 1000 q tmux control mode Bridges tmux into the WezTerm multiplexer.
> Currently incomplete, see this issue for status.
>
> Curious. To be continued....

Interesting.. when I tried tmux, it seemed to work fine.
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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
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Le 28-07-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>
> Just stick with tried-and-true xterm; it has full Unicode
> capabilities:

As you are o mice driven GUI user, you can't understand how useful a
real modern terminal can be.

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From: sc@fiat-linux.fr (Stéphane CARPENTIER)
Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
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Le 29-07-2024, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
> Farley Flud wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 07:40:50 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Heh heh, made ya look.
>>
>> Did you just graduate from the fourth grade?
>
> Nah, just stooping to your level.

It's difficult. It's in the center of the center of the earth. And he
manages to still going down. It's impressive to see.

>>> Actually, Gentoo Linux provides a web page discussing rxvt-unicode.
>>
>> Rxvt-unicode is bloated and has problems in other areas.
>
> Bloated? I don't think so.

He despise everything he can't understand. He's not the only one like
that but he's far more limited than a lot of people.

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Le 30-07-2024, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
>> fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
>> scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program
>>
>> also i switched from urxvt to wezterm
>
> Thanks, will look into wezterm. Does it implement tmux-style functionality?

I don't know what you mean by that. But kitty has a lot of features
provided by tmux:
<https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/>

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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
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> Le 28-07-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>>
>> Just stick with tried-and-true xterm; it has full Unicode
>> capabilities:
>
> As you are o mice driven GUI user, you can't understand how useful a
> real modern terminal can be.

That reminds me. Since I'm running urxvt on the older distro (Ubuntu)
and now back to xfce4-terminal on this Arch laptop, I need up
update some of the xfce4-terminal shortcuts to match urxvt.

Muscle memory! (Some would say my brain is a muscle :-D)

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> Le 30-07-2024, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
>> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
>>> fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
>>> scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program
>>>
>>> also i switched from urxvt to wezterm
>>
>> Thanks, will look into wezterm. Does it implement tmux-style functionality?
>
> I don't know what you mean by that. But kitty has a lot of features
> provided by tmux:
>
> <https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/>

I'll stick with tmux in whatever terminal I'm currently running.

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Le 03-08-2024, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
> Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Le 28-07-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Just stick with tried-and-true xterm; it has full Unicode
>>> capabilities:
>>
>> As you are o mice driven GUI user, you can't understand how useful a
>> real modern terminal can be.
>
> That reminds me. Since I'm running urxvt on the older distro (Ubuntu)
> and now back to xfce4-terminal on this Arch laptop, I need up
> update some of the xfce4-terminal shortcuts to match urxvt.

That's very good point in favor of vim. If you know vim's shortcuts, you
can use a lot of tools with similar shortcuts and the learn curve can be
easy.

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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
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Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 19:48 this Friday (GMT):
> Le 30-07-2024, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
>> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
>>> fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
>>> scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program
>>>
>>> also i switched from urxvt to wezterm
>>
>> Thanks, will look into wezterm. Does it implement tmux-style functionality?
>
> I don't know what you mean by that. But kitty has a lot of features
> provided by tmux:
><https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/>

Interesting. Is it super different to alacritty?
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Le 03-08-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 19:48 this Friday (GMT):
>> Le 30-07-2024, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
>>> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
>>>> fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
>>>> scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program
>>>>
>>>> also i switched from urxvt to wezterm
>>>
>>> Thanks, will look into wezterm. Does it implement tmux-style functionality?
>>
>> I don't know what you mean by that. But kitty has a lot of features
>> provided by tmux:
>><https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/>
>
>
> Interesting. Is it super different to alacritty?

Yes, it's really different. You have some modes in alacritty which help
you get the result of the last command. With kitty, you send it to vim.

You have a way to use session with kitty, you need to use tmux to have
them in alacritty. I don't use sessions, so I can't really speak about
it.

A really good thing, in kitty I dindn't find in alacritty is the
combination with ls. If you activate hyperlinks in your ls, you can open
your files with a shortcut (to avoid using the mouse).

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On 03 Aug 2024 13:26:43 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> That's very good point in favor of vim. If you know vim's shortcuts, you
> can use a lot of tools with similar shortcuts and the learn curve can be
> easy.

I use the Vim extension in VS Code and it works well. There were a few
things that weren't implemented but it has been improving over time. It
doesn't interfere with completion or hints.

I used to add the Vim plugin for Visual Studio but lately I haven't used
VS enough to bother.

I've always found MS's programming editors to be weak compared to other
offerings like Vim or Brief.

Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
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Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 16:24 this Saturday (GMT):
> Le 03-08-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
>> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 19:48 this Friday (GMT):
>>> Le 30-07-2024, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> a écrit :
>>>> candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow, I didn't know that it supported Unicode! A lot of the tui's with
>>>>> fancy graphics I tried on xterm were broken. It still works great in
>>>>> scripts and stuff to start up a new terminal with a program
>>>>>
>>>>> also i switched from urxvt to wezterm
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, will look into wezterm. Does it implement tmux-style functionality?
>>>
>>> I don't know what you mean by that. But kitty has a lot of features
>>> provided by tmux:
>>><https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/>
>>
>>
>> Interesting. Is it super different to alacritty?
>
> Yes, it's really different. You have some modes in alacritty which help
> you get the result of the last command. With kitty, you send it to vim.
>
> You have a way to use session with kitty, you need to use tmux to have
> them in alacritty. I don't use sessions, so I can't really speak about
> it.

Interesting. I've only used alacritty.

> A really good thing, in kitty I dindn't find in alacritty is the
> combination with ls. If you activate hyperlinks in your ls, you can open
> your files with a shortcut (to avoid using the mouse).

? Do you mean xdg-open?
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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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> On 03 Aug 2024 13:26:43 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>> That's very good point in favor of vim. If you know vim's shortcuts, you
>> can use a lot of tools with similar shortcuts and the learn curve can be
>> easy.
>
> I use the Vim extension in VS Code and it works well. There were a few
> things that weren't implemented but it has been improving over time. It
> doesn't interfere with completion or hints.
>
> I used to add the Vim plugin for Visual Studio but lately I haven't used
> VS enough to bother.
>
> I've always found MS's programming editors to be weak compared to other
> offerings like Vim or Brief.

Do MS's prog editors include <cough> Intellisense?

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Le 04-08-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 16:24 this Saturday (GMT):
>> A really good thing, in kitty I dindn't find in alacritty is the
>> combination with ls. If you activate hyperlinks in your ls, you can open
>> your files with a shortcut (to avoid using the mouse).
>
>
> ? Do you mean xdg-open?

I mean that:
<https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/conf/#shortcut-kitty.Open-the-selected-hyperlink>
I'm not sure xdg-open is used behind the scene.

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Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: rbowman
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On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 07:48:26 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Do MS's prog editors include <cough> Intellisense?

IntelliSense and, increasingly, IntelliCode.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/intellicode-story-2018-2022-david-obando/

Long article on the development of IntelliCode. For VS Code there are
extensions for specific languages like C++, C#, or Python.

It's useful when it works. Having a parameter list pop up for a function
is helpful. After decades I can't always remember the order for read()
versus fread() let alone the nuances of thousands of third party APIs.

IntelliCode can be a little spooky until you get used to it.

Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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On 4 Aug 2024 17:32:22 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> Having a parameter list pop up for a function
> is helpful. After decades I can't always remember the order for read()
> versus fread() let alone the nuances of thousands of third party APIs.

I have the docs open in a browser page. Sometimes you discover things from
reading actual docs (like better API calls for doing what you’re trying to
do) that no autocomplete can manage.

Subject: Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 4 Aug 2024 17:32:22 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> Having a parameter list pop up for a function
>> is helpful. After decades I can't always remember the order for read()
>> versus fread() let alone the nuances of thousands of third party APIs.
>
> I have the docs open in a browser page. Sometimes you discover things from
> reading actual docs (like better API calls for doing what you’re trying to
> do) that no autocomplete can manage.

I hate it when programmer's editors pop up stuff while one is typing. Very
distracting. If I need to refresh my memory, I'll do it when I'm ready via man
pages or cppreference.com [I don't use cplusplus.com, it makes the laptop fan
go crazy.]

When I look for a solution online, I always try to get at least three different
opinions about it. Sometimes the first few "solutions" are crappy.

And apps that compile and show errors while typing? Ugh. When I'm satisfied
with what I've written, into the compiler it goes, to populate a make.log file.
It's really fast with Meson.

In the deep past I tried ctags, but it never took hold with me. I see there's a
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Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Farley Flud
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Farley Flud
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	candycanearter07
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	candycanearter07
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	candycanearter07
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	candycanearter07
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	candycanearter07
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	rbowman
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	rbowman
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	rbowman
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	rbowman
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	rbowman
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	rbowman
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	Chris Ahlstrom
Re: Gentoo not supporting rxvt-unicode???	rbowman