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* A Celebration of GentooFarley Flud
+- Re: A Celebration of GentooDFS
+* Re: A Celebration of Gentoocandycanearter07
|`* Re: A Celebration of Gentoorbowman
| `* Re: A Celebration of GentooFarley Flud
|  `* Re: A Celebration of GentooDFS
|   `* Re: A Celebration of GentooJoel
|    +* Re: A Celebration of GentooDFS
|    |+- Re: A Celebration of GentooJoel
|    |`- Re: A Celebration of Gentoorbowman
|    `- Re: A Celebration of GentooChris Ahlstrom
`- Re: A Celebration of GentooStéphane CARPENTIER

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Subject: A Celebration of Gentoo
From: Farley Flud
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Gentoo, the bestest GNU/Linux distro, distributes a "news"
document along with the portage tree.

Several weeks ago, the Gentoo news warned that beginning
June 1 the default Python would change from 3.11 to 3.12.

I said: What the friggin' fuck! That goddamned Python is
being updated faster than that cocksuckin' Microslop .NET."

But the update went well, thanks to the unparalleled Gentoo
portage.

However, since my distro is not pure Gentoo but rather a fusion
with LFS, I have to keep watch over any "stragglers," i.e.
any of the DOZENS of junk Python modules that have escaped
the ordinary upgrade channels. But thanks to the wonderful portage
logging this task is very simple.

Yet, it may be illustrative of the stupidity of Python to
check out the number of ridiculous junk Python modules that are
installed and that some software (I certainly don't use them)
requires:

alabaster-0.7.16
annotated-types-0.7.0
appdirs-1.4.4-r3
autocommand-2.2.2
Babel-2.15.0
backports-tarfile-1.2.0
calver-2022.06.26
certifi-3021.3.16-r4
cffi-1.17.0_rc1
chardet-5.2.0
charset-normalizer-3.3.2
cryptography-42.0.8
cython-3.0.10
defusedxml-0.8.0_rc2
docutils-0.21.2
editables-0.5
ensurepip-pip-24.0
ensurepip-setuptools-70.0.0
ensurepip-wheels-100
flit-core-3.9.0
gentoo-common-1
gpep517-16
hatch-fancy-pypi-readme-24.1.0
hatchling-1.24.2
idna-3.7
imagesize-1.4.1
importlib-metadata-7.1.0
inflect-7.2.1
installer-0.7.0
jaraco-context-5.3.0
jaraco-functools-4.0.1
jaraco-text-3.12.0
jinja-3.1.4
lxml-5.2.2
mako-1.3.5
markdown-3.6
markupsafe-2.1.5
more-itertools-10.2.0
nspektr-0.5.0
olefile-0.47
ordered-set-4.1.0
packaging-24.0
pathspec-0.12.1
pkg.txt
platformdirs-4.2.2
pluggy-1.5.0
ply-3.11-r2
pycparser-2.22
pydantic-2.7.3
pydantic-core-2.18.4
pygments-2.18.0
pyopenssl-24.1.0
pyparsing-3.1.2
PySocks-1.7.1-r2
pytz-2024.1
requests-2.32.3
semantic-version-2.10.0
setuptools-70.0.0
setuptools-rust-1.9.0
setuptools-scm-8.1.0
six-1.16.0-r1
smartypants-2.0.1-r1
snowballstemmer-2.2.0-r1
sphinx-7.3.7-r2
sphinxcontrib-applehelp-1.0.8
sphinxcontrib-devhelp-1.0.6
sphinxcontrib-htmlhelp-2.0.5
sphinxcontrib-jsmath-1.0.1-r3
sphinxcontrib-qthelp-1.0.7
sphinxcontrib-serializinghtml-1.1.10
tomli-2.0.1-r1
trove-classifiers-2024.5.22
typeguard-4.3.0
typing-extensions-4.12.2
typogrify-2.0.7-r1
urllib3-2.2.1
wheel-0.43.0
zipp-3.19.1
zstandard-0.22.0

Lookie here:

ensurepip
pluggy
smartypants
snowballstemmer

Is this a child's birthday party?

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Holy shish kabob! Junk Python hides its "simplicity" behind
a humongous mountain of helper code.

Give me C/Assembly and I shall move the earth in 2 lines whereas
junk Python would need 2 million.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Now cue all the incompetent losers to rush to the defense
of their beloved "savior."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
From: DFS
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On 6/8/2024 3:26 PM, Lyin' Larry Pietraskiewicz wrote:

> Give me C/Assembly and
you are lost

> I shall move the earth

You shall move your bowels in "Mom's House That Windows Bought"

> in 2 lines whereas junk Python would need 2 million.

You have it bass ackwards as usual

Another Feeb FAIL post.

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 19:26 this Saturday (GMT):
> Gentoo, the bestest GNU/Linux distro, distributes a "news"
> document along with the portage tree.
>
> Several weeks ago, the Gentoo news warned that beginning
> June 1 the default Python would change from 3.11 to 3.12.
>
> I said: What the friggin' fuck! That goddamned Python is
> being updated faster than that cocksuckin' Microslop .NET."
[snip]

While I don't really agree with the rest of the post, yeah .NET is kinda
bad.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
From: rbowman
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 02:40:06 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 19:26 this Saturday (GMT):
>> Gentoo, the bestest GNU/Linux distro, distributes a "news" document
>> along with the portage tree.
>>
>> Several weeks ago, the Gentoo news warned that beginning June 1 the
>> default Python would change from 3.11 to 3.12.
>>
>> I said: What the friggin' fuck! That goddamned Python is being updated
>> faster than that cocksuckin' Microslop .NET."
> [snip]
>
> While I don't really agree with the rest of the post, yeah .NET is kinda
> bad.

Python 3.11 was released in October of 2022, 3.12 in October of 2023. The
releases are once a year in October so 3.13 is in beta and will be
released this October. It might take Gentoo a couple of years to catch up.

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
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On 11 Jun 2024 03:39:00 GMT, rbowman wrote:


> ... to catch up.
>

Nope. The correct term is "ketchup."

Or also "catsup."

My fave is here:

https://www.kroger.com/p/primal-kitchen-organic-and-unsweetened-ketchup/0085523200712

Yum, yum. Just like Gentoo. Yum, yum. Lip smack.

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
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On 6/11/2024 3:26 PM, Lameass Larry Piet wrote:

> On 11 Jun 2024 03:39:00 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>
>> ... to catch up.
>>
>
> Nope. The correct term is "ketchup."
>
> Or also "catsup."
>
> My fave is here:
>
> https://www.kroger.com/p/primal-kitchen-organic-and-unsweetened-ketchup/0085523200712
>
> Yum, yum. Just like Gentoo. Yum, yum. Lip smack.

The ketchup nobody wants pairs well with the OS nobody wants.

Heinz and Windows is what the world enjoys.

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 6/11/2024 3:26 PM, Lameass Larry Piet wrote:
>
>> The correct term is "ketchup."
>>
>> Or also "catsup."
>>
>> My fave is here:
>>
>> https://www.kroger.com/p/primal-kitchen-organic-and-unsweetened-ketchup/0085523200712
>>
>> Yum, yum. Just like Gentoo. Yum, yum. Lip smack.
>
>The ketchup nobody wants pairs well with the OS nobody wants.
>
>Heinz and Windows is what the world enjoys.

Have you tried the one in Larry's link, or are you just talking out of
your ass?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
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On 6/11/2024 11:36 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 6/11/2024 3:26 PM, Lameass Larry Piet wrote:
>>
>>> The correct term is "ketchup."
>>>
>>> Or also "catsup."
>>>
>>> My fave is here:
>>>
>>> https://www.kroger.com/p/primal-kitchen-organic-and-unsweetened-ketchup/0085523200712
>>>
>>> Yum, yum. Just like Gentoo. Yum, yum. Lip smack.
>>
>> The ketchup nobody wants pairs well with the OS nobody wants.
>>
>> Heinz and Windows is what the world enjoys.
>
>
> Have you tried the one in Larry's link, or are you just talking out of
> your ass?

Whether I've tried it or not is irrelevant. Store brand
organic/unsweetened ketchup has a tiny market share in US homes, just
like Linux.

What I do like is Blue Plate mayo. OMG.

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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 6/11/2024 11:36 PM, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/11/2024 3:26 PM, Lameass Larry Piet wrote:
>>>
>>>> The correct term is "ketchup."
>>>>
>>>> Or also "catsup."
>>>>
>>>> My fave is here:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.kroger.com/p/primal-kitchen-organic-and-unsweetened-ketchup/0085523200712
>>>>
>>>> Yum, yum. Just like Gentoo. Yum, yum. Lip smack.
>>>
>>> The ketchup nobody wants pairs well with the OS nobody wants.
>>>
>>> Heinz and Windows is what the world enjoys.
>>
>> Have you tried the one in Larry's link, or are you just talking out of
>> your ass?
>
>Whether I've tried it or not is irrelevant. Store brand
>organic/unsweetened ketchup has a tiny market share in US homes, just
>like Linux.
>
>What I do like is Blue Plate mayo. OMG.

I thought the one Larry linked to looked good, but I dunno.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
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Joel wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>The ketchup nobody wants pairs well with the OS nobody wants.
>>Heinz and Windows is what the world enjoys.
>
> Have you tried the one in Larry's link, or are you just talking out of
> your ass?

Doof has a wideon for Windows :-D

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in uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching
after fact and reason.
-- John Keats

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 00:35:21 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Whether I've tried it or not is irrelevant. Store brand
> organic/unsweetened ketchup has a tiny market share in US homes, just
> like Linux.
>
> What I do like is Blue Plate mayo. OMG.

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-
obesity

Yup, the market prefers tomato flavored syrup...

Subject: Re: A Celebration of Gentoo
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Le 08-06-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>
> However, since my distro is not pure Gentoo but rather a fusion
> with LFS,

You are starting with a good joke.

> Yet, it may be illustrative of the stupidity of Python to
> check out the number of ridiculous junk Python modules that are
> installed and that some software (I certainly don't use them)
> requires:

OK, so if you don't use them, either they aren't required or you don't
manage what's in your system. It's as you want. Both ways are fun with
me.

> Give me C/Assembly and I shall move the earth in 2 lines whereas
> junk Python would need 2 million.

You are ending as you started: with a good joke.

> Now cue all the incompetent losers to rush to the defense
> of their beloved "savior."

What's that?

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