On 2024-05-26, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
> Le 26-05-2024, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> On 2024-05-25, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> I never launch a GUI program from a terminal because it's inefficient.
>>> When you do it, you show me how I'm right about it.
>>>
>>> When you launch your GUI applications from the terminal, you have two
>>> issues. And that takes forever. The first one is you need to move it on
>>> another workspace, you do it with your mouse and it's slow (and when you
>>> loose the focus and interact with another application, it's fun to see
>>> how you struggle to do basic things). And second, when your application
>>> is on your right workspace, you need to resize it. Which takes you
>>> forever a second time.
>>
>> I don't use the mouse to launch GUI applications from the terminal. If I
>> want to open a Trelby document (as an example) I do the following.
>> [...]
>> If I don't know the name of the document I want to edit, I run...
>
> If I had a script like that, I wouldn't launch it from a terminal. I'd
> launch it from a keystroke with the help of wofi. Something like when I
> want to see a pdf file:
> bindsym $mod+z exec find ~ \( -path ~/Download\* -o -path ~/divers\* -o -path ~/Lecture/Pdf/ALire/\* \) -a \( -name "*.pdf" -o -name "*.ps" -o -name "*.epub" \) 2>/dev/null | wofi -d | xargs -r -I % zathura "%"
>
> When I press [Windows]+[z], there is find who will look for my pdf
> files, open the list in wofi and wofi open the one I select in zathura.
>
> Wofi, rofi are dmenu are very good to launch graphical applications
> without the need to open a terminal.

I'm so used to going to a terminal that it's second nature to me now. Guake
(which I use for full screen stuff) is Shift-Control-N. And Mate-Terminal is
Shift-Control-M. I use Guake for slrn, Jstar, etc. It's set to full height
in the middle of my monitor. Mate-Terminal is what I use for opening GUI
programs and taking notes. I use the source option (. shellscript) so that
the terminal goes away once the GUI application opens. I've got a lot of
Jstar scripts for different needs. If I want to take a note, for example, I
open a terminal, type jn _name_ and I've moved to my note directory and
with a new (or existing) text file.

It takes a couple seconds to open a Trelby document. Same with a PDF file. I
just type...

.. pd filename

.... and Atril open my PDF file. I've set Atril to remember its settings, so
it opens in the middle of my screen filling it vertically.

I'll take a look at wofi, but what I've got works well for me. And it looks
like I would have to learn a bit (or maybe a bit more) before using wofi and
I already know how to do what I do.

Taking a closer look at your "binding" (if that's the correct term) it looks
like you still have to choose a file name, once it's opened. I do something
similar with my Emacs script when I want to write a file in Fountain format.

The emf script (a combination of lst and em)...

#!/bin/bash
cd ~/Documents/scripts # Change to the script Directory
lst lfount # List Fountain files in long format, newest last
read -p 'file: ' uservar # Input file name
em $uservar & # Run Emacs and open the file entered (see em)
exit

em shell script (it can be run independently)...

#!/bin/bash
clear # Clear terminal screen
cd ~/Documents/scripts # Go to the Script directory
emacs -fh $1".fountain" 2>/dev/null & # Run Emacs in full height and open file
exit # Close terminal (when using the source argument)

In Linux (unlike Windows) you can run Emacs in full height simply by using the
-fh flag.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QDgofTMvTz_Ji6V9rcYG2LuNlyjxpeps/view?usp=sharing

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On 5/26/2024 7:50 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote at 16:48 this Saturday (GMT):
>> GNU/Linux Video Extravaganza
>>
>> For REAL MEN only
>>
>> Alternative Browsers
>>
>> If you think that you are man enough then join the party.
>>
>> Otherwise, go strangle yourself in your Ubuntu tutu.
>>
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>
>> Get it here (340 Mb):
>>
>> For lackeys --
>>
>> https://ufile.io/zux0rlug
>>
>>
>> For REAL MEN --
>>
>> alt.binaries.multimedia.transformation
>>
>> colavid.mp4
>>
>> Can't miss it.
>>
>> yEnc encoded
>
>
> Sorry, e-s doesn't carry the binary groups.

Don't waste your time. It's just the ridiculous Feeb promoting more
half-ass, outdated, lackluster, abandoned-8-years-ago GuhNoo junkware.

https://github.com/bleskodev/siggen

Feeb's been on cola for more than 9 years here, and I don't recall him
being critical of a single piece of GuhNoo hobbyware. Not one. But he
labels AutoCAD "junk" and Mathematica "fucking incompetent commercial
grubbers!".

He's a gibbering fool without an honest bone in his excuse-making body.

On 2024-05-26 7:50 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:49 this Saturday (GMT):
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Get a real sound editing app for free (like most good application
>>> software, it's not available for Linux):
>>
>>
>> https://www.audacityteam.org/
>
>
> Audacity is the industry standard, right?

To be fair, what the industry uses shouldn't matter to a home user.

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TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-26 7:50 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:49 this Saturday (GMT):
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Get a real sound editing app for free (like most good application
>>>> software, it's not available for Linux):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.audacityteam.org/
>>
>>
>> Audacity is the industry standard, right?
>
> To be fair, what the industry uses shouldn't matter to a home user.

Except for the fact that, ideally, the reason industry uses it, is because
it is stable. (Not always the case, I understand.)

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On 5/26/2024 6:30 AM, Larry 'Linux Configurator King' Piet wrote:

> On 25 May 2024 21:13:23 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>

> Launching a GUI program from a terminal is very beneficial because
> diagnostic and other messages are printed to the console. Thus
> one can easily see if there are any problems with the software or its
> environment.
>
> Of course, this applies only to GNU/Linux gurus, like me, who actually
> build their own systems.

eh? 'guru' not necessary. Even I know you get diagnostic/feedback when
launching apps via the terminal.

> But YOU are a distro lackey and have everything built for you by other
> people.

So do you.

'REAL PROGRAMMERS' write the code, then you type a few words and
Python/emerge downloads, builds and installs everything for you.

Then you rush to cola to call yourself a 'REAL MAN'.

Snap out of it.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/26/2024 6:30 AM, Larry 'Linux Configurator King' Piet wrote:
>
>> But YOU are a distro lackey and have everything built for you by other
>> people.
>
>So do you.
>
>'REAL PROGRAMMERS' write the code, then you type a few words and
>Python/emerge downloads, builds and installs everything for you.
>
>Then you rush to cola to call yourself a 'REAL MAN'.
>
>Snap out of it.

Larry thinks there's some great benefit to controlling the building
process, well, it could've fooled me, because I have Mint, the distro
most loathed by retards like him, and it hasn't failed to let me do
anything. And I don't celebrate having a blank desktop like in his
insane videos. I'm OK with having a Windows-like-ish experience, OMG
what a travesty. It's called having a personal computer, not an
experiment.

--
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Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-05-27 9:02 a.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-05-26 7:50 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:49 this Saturday (GMT):
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Get a real sound editing app for free (like most good application
>>>>> software, it's not available for Linux):
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.audacityteam.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> Audacity is the industry standard, right?
>>
>> To be fair, what the industry uses shouldn't matter to a home user.
>
> Except for the fact that, ideally, the reason industry uses it, is because
> it is stable. (Not always the case, I understand.)

Certain industries have valid reasons for choosing one product over
another, and stability is not always part of it. I'm thinking of
WordPerfect in law offices and Google Workspace in schools, for example.
Sometimes, it is because of exclusive features like in the case of
WordPerfect; at other times, it is simply because the company behind the
product had the least expensive offering as in Google's case.

--
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TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 5/27/2024 9:48 AM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 5/26/2024 6:30 AM, Larry 'Linux Configurator King' Piet wrote:
>>
>>> But YOU are a distro lackey and have everything built for you by other
>>> people.
>>
>> So do you.
>>
>> 'REAL PROGRAMMERS' write the code, then you type a few words and
>> Python/emerge downloads, builds and installs everything for you.
>>
>> Then you rush to cola to call yourself a 'REAL MAN'.
>>
>> Snap out of it.
>
>
> Larry thinks there's some great benefit to controlling the building
> process, well, it could've fooled me, because I have Mint, the distro
> most loathed by retards like him, and it hasn't failed to let me do
> anything. And I don't celebrate having a blank desktop like in his
> insane videos. I'm OK with having a Windows-like-ish experience, OMG
> what a travesty. It's called having a personal computer, not an
> experiment.

That's how I feel, too.

Watch Feeb's videos and see how much he struggles to navigate his
system, and launch apps from the command line. He mumbles to himself
and asks "What the fuck's going on?" and "Be patient!"

He doesn't belong anywhere near computers or software.

On 5/25/2024 2:06 PM, Joel wrote:
> Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote:
>
>> GNU/Linux Video Extravaganza
>>
>> For REAL MEN only
>>
>> Alternative Browsers
>>
>> If you think that you are man enough then join the party.
>>
>> Otherwise, go strangle yourself in your Ubuntu tutu.
>>
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>
>> Get it here (340 Mb):
>>
>> For lackeys --
>>
>> https://ufile.io/zux0rlug
>>
>>
>> For REAL MEN --
>>
>> alt.binaries.multimedia.transformation
>>
>> colavid.mp4
>>
>> Can't miss it.
>>
>> yEnc encoded
>
>
> https://i.imgur.com/LeIjQz0.png
>
> So, I watched your insane video. I believe that you were a Marine, it
> makes sense now, you're not a tweaker per se, you're a Marine.

He's not an ex-Marine or an ex-Navy Seal. Don't be fooled. He's just
an Internet tough guy like you.

> The
> next Oswald, perhaps, if you weren't lying about all the abuse you
> gave the M$ and Apple users in public. Your alternative browsers were
> interesting to see, but not something I would use. I want Firefox,
> Chrome and Edge, just as I had under Winblows.

I've been using only Opera for many years now, but about a week ago I
uninstalled it in favor of Brave, which does a great job blocking ads.

I liked Edge in the hour or so I used it, but I remember one of their
data collection policies bothered me, and I quit using it.

> I don't have this retarded obsession with being minimalist, that you have.

Feeb does nothing with his Gentoo crapbox but tinker.

> You need mental help.

He needs a woman.

On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:17:04 -0400, DFS wrote:

> I've been using only Opera for many years now, but about a week ago I
> uninstalled it in favor of Brave, which does a great job blocking ads.

https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/

That one? Wise choice. What could go wrong with an AI powered browser
owned by the Chinese?

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>> So, I watched your insane video. I believe that you were a Marine, it
>> makes sense now, you're not a tweaker per se, you're a Marine.
>
>He's not an ex-Marine or an ex-Navy Seal. Don't be fooled. He's just
>an Internet tough guy like you.

You interjected that before I compared him to Oswald, though, which is
the only way I believe him. ;)

>> The
>> next Oswald, perhaps, if you weren't lying about all the abuse you
>> gave the M$ and Apple users in public. Your alternative browsers were
>> interesting to see, but not something I would use. I want Firefox,
>> Chrome and Edge, just as I had under Winblows.
>
>I've been using only Opera for many years now, but about a week ago I
>uninstalled it in favor of Brave, which does a great job blocking ads.
>
>I liked Edge in the hour or so I used it, but I remember one of their
>data collection policies bothered me, and I quit using it.

I use Edge for Linux exclusively for M$'s sites, or if I need an extra
browser when my friend comes over for his stuff. Under Windows, I
didn't use it hardly at all, because I used M$'s clients for email,
which is the main thing I'm doing with Edge now (my hotmail.com
address).

>> I don't have this retarded obsession with being minimalist, that you have.
>
>Feeb does nothing with his Gentoo crapbox but tinker.
>
>> You need mental help.
>
>He needs a woman.

I won't disagree with those points.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 01:57 this Monday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> https://www.audacityteam.org/
>>>>
>>>>Audacity is the industry standard, right?
>>>
>>> It's certainly what I would use, I took the moment of looking at it to
>>> get the AppImage, in fact, because Mint's copy of it was outdated.
>>
>>Is it too old to use?
>
>
> I doubt that, but why not use the latest version?

Fair. I don't mind having a slightly out of date version if it updates
automatically though.
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote at 03:50 this Monday (GMT):
> On 5/26/2024 7:50 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote at 16:48 this Saturday (GMT):
>>> GNU/Linux Video Extravaganza
>>>
>>> For REAL MEN only
>>>
>>> Alternative Browsers
>>>
>>> If you think that you are man enough then join the party.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, go strangle yourself in your Ubuntu tutu.
>>>
>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>>
>>> Get it here (340 Mb):
>>>
>>> For lackeys --
>>>
>>> https://ufile.io/zux0rlug
>>>
>>>
>>> For REAL MEN --
>>>
>>> alt.binaries.multimedia.transformation
>>>
>>> colavid.mp4
>>>
>>> Can't miss it.
>>>
>>> yEnc encoded
>>
>>
>> Sorry, e-s doesn't carry the binary groups.
>
>
> Don't waste your time. It's just the ridiculous Feeb promoting more
> half-ass, outdated, lackluster, abandoned-8-years-ago GuhNoo junkware.
>
> https://github.com/bleskodev/siggen
>
>
> Feeb's been on cola for more than 9 years here, and I don't recall him
> being critical of a single piece of GuhNoo hobbyware. Not one. But he
> labels AutoCAD "junk" and Mathematica "fucking incompetent commercial
> grubbers!".
>
> He's a gibbering fool without an honest bone in his excuse-making body.

Oh. I'd still like to watch it to see how it is, but oke ^^
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On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-27 9:02 a.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-26 7:50 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:49 this Saturday (GMT):
>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Get a real sound editing app for free (like most good application
>>>>>> software, it's not available for Linux):
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.audacityteam.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Audacity is the industry standard, right?
>>>
>>> To be fair, what the industry uses shouldn't matter to a home user.
>>
>> Except for the fact that, ideally, the reason industry uses it, is because
>> it is stable. (Not always the case, I understand.)
>
> Certain industries have valid reasons for choosing one product over
> another, and stability is not always part of it. I'm thinking of
> WordPerfect in law offices and Google Workspace in schools, for example.
> Sometimes, it is because of exclusive features like in the case of
> WordPerfect; at other times, it is simply because the company behind the
> product had the least expensive offering as in Google's case.

I played around with Google Docs for awhile. Then I read somewhere where
somebody got on the wrong side of Google and they shut down his Google
account and locked him out of his documents. That was all I needed to know
about Google Docs.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
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On 2024-05-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:17:04 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> I've been using only Opera for many years now, but about a week ago I
>> uninstalled it in favor of Brave, which does a great job blocking ads.
>
> https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/
>
> That one? Wise choice. What could go wrong with an AI powered browser
> owned by the Chinese?

I thought Opera was still based in Norway. It looks like I'm about 8 years
behind the curve on this one.

That said, I think I would rather have the Chinese government spying on me
rather than the CIA, NSA, etc. via U.S. social media sites.

--
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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-27 8:22 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-05-27 9:02 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-26 7:50 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:49 this Saturday (GMT):
>>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get a real sound editing app for free (like most good application
>>>>>>> software, it's not available for Linux):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.audacityteam.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Audacity is the industry standard, right?
>>>>
>>>> To be fair, what the industry uses shouldn't matter to a home user.
>>>
>>> Except for the fact that, ideally, the reason industry uses it, is because
>>> it is stable. (Not always the case, I understand.)
>>
>> Certain industries have valid reasons for choosing one product over
>> another, and stability is not always part of it. I'm thinking of
>> WordPerfect in law offices and Google Workspace in schools, for example.
>> Sometimes, it is because of exclusive features like in the case of
>> WordPerfect; at other times, it is simply because the company behind the
>> product had the least expensive offering as in Google's case.
>
> I played around with Google Docs for awhile. Then I read somewhere where
> somebody got on the wrong side of Google and they shut down his Google
> account and locked him out of his documents. That was all I needed to know
> about Google Docs.

It happened again as per a new article by Bryan Lunduke. Apparently,
Google decided that a document a Pfizer whistleblower shared was too
dangerous, so they blocked it.

--
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TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-05-27 8:27 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:17:04 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> I've been using only Opera for many years now, but about a week ago I
>>> uninstalled it in favor of Brave, which does a great job blocking ads.
>>
>> https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/
>>
>> That one? Wise choice. What could go wrong with an AI powered browser
>> owned by the Chinese?
>
> I thought Opera was still based in Norway. It looks like I'm about 8 years
> behind the curve on this one.
>
> That said, I think I would rather have the Chinese government spying on me
> rather than the CIA, NSA, etc. via U.S. social media sites.

How about neither?

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TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On Tue, 28 May 2024 00:27:47 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> On 2024-05-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:17:04 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> I've been using only Opera for many years now, but about a week ago I
>>> uninstalled it in favor of Brave, which does a great job blocking ads.
>>
>> https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/
>>
>> That one? Wise choice. What could go wrong with an AI powered browser
>> owned by the Chinese?
>
> I thought Opera was still based in Norway. It looks like I'm about 8
> years behind the curve on this one.

They got bought by a Chinese consortium and fairly recently one of those
corporations was bought out.

https://cntechpost.com/2020/10/25/chinese-company-becomes-controlling-
shareholder-of-opera/

Keeping track of who owns what is like trying the follow the pea under the
shell.
Real old news but they also dropped the Presto engine in favor of a
chromium derivative. This pissed enough people off that Vivaldi was spun
off. It's chromium too but modified to work like Opera did with Presto.

> That said, I think I would rather have the Chinese government spying on
> me rather than the CIA, NSA, etc. via U.S. social media sites.

You can't win.. It's old but I've been reading Neal Stephenson's 'Reamde'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reamde

Enough to make you paranoid. This weekend is the annual Missoula Science
Fiction & Fantasy Convention, known as MisCon. Downtown was filled with
LARPing elves, dwarfs, warriors, and who knows what from who knows what
fantasy world. I've never been but is is big enough that they sucked in
George RR Martin one year. For added amusement there was also some sort of
LDS convention. I'm guessing the ones with blue hair aren't Mormons, but
who knows. Maybe they could get Larry Correia and cover both bases.

Re: Today's MisCon, LARPing elves, dwarfs, warriors & the LDS convention.

Add Joe Biden to the mix, just to see how fast they'd scatter.

On Mon, 27 May 2024 20:14:01 -0700 (Seattle), "Relf"
<Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote in <Jeff-Relf.Me@May.27--8.14pm.Seattle.2024>:

> Re: Today's MisCon, LARPing elves, dwarfs, warriors & the LDS
> convention.
>
> Add Joe Biden to the mix, just to see how fast they'd scatter.

Signal garbled, Captain Mouse! Adjust your Galactic Transceiver and
try again, please!

--
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You (DistroMan) replied ( to me ):
> > Re: Today's MisCon, LARPing elves, dwarfs, warriors & the LDS convention.
> > Add Joe Biden to the mix, just to see how fast they'd scatter.
>
> Signal garbled, Captain Mouse!
> Adjust your Galactic Transceiver and try again, please!

Joe "The OverPopulation Alarmist" is a kill joy.

On 2024-05-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-27 8:22 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-27 9:02 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-05-26 7:50 p.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 21:49 this Saturday (GMT):
>>>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get a real sound editing app for free (like most good application
>>>>>>>> software, it's not available for Linux):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.audacityteam.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Audacity is the industry standard, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> To be fair, what the industry uses shouldn't matter to a home user.
>>>>
>>>> Except for the fact that, ideally, the reason industry uses it, is because
>>>> it is stable. (Not always the case, I understand.)
>>>
>>> Certain industries have valid reasons for choosing one product over
>>> another, and stability is not always part of it. I'm thinking of
>>> WordPerfect in law offices and Google Workspace in schools, for example.
>>> Sometimes, it is because of exclusive features like in the case of
>>> WordPerfect; at other times, it is simply because the company behind the
>>> product had the least expensive offering as in Google's case.
>>
>> I played around with Google Docs for awhile. Then I read somewhere where
>> somebody got on the wrong side of Google and they shut down his Google
>> account and locked him out of his documents. That was all I needed to know
>> about Google Docs.
>
> It happened again as per a new article by Bryan Lunduke. Apparently,
> Google decided that a document a Pfizer whistleblower shared was too
> dangerous, so they blocked it.

And I think it's going to keep getting worse in our Woke society.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-27 8:27 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-05-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:17:04 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been using only Opera for many years now, but about a week ago I
>>>> uninstalled it in favor of Brave, which does a great job blocking ads.
>>>
>>> https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/
>>>
>>> That one? Wise choice. What could go wrong with an AI powered browser
>>> owned by the Chinese?
>>
>> I thought Opera was still based in Norway. It looks like I'm about 8 years
>> behind the curve on this one.
>>
>> That said, I think I would rather have the Chinese government spying on me
>> rather than the CIA, NSA, etc. via U.S. social media sites.
>
> How about neither?

Not going to happen. But what's the Chinese government going to do to me?
I'm more worried about what my government is going to do.

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[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On Mon, 27 May 2024 20:14:01 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> Re: Today's MisCon, LARPing elves, dwarfs, warriors & the LDS
> convention.
>
> Add Joe Biden to the mix, just to see how fast they'd scatter.

Joe would fit right in but I don't think he could fill Obama's shoes. When
they were scrabbling for every last primary vote both Obama and Hildebeast
showed up on the same weekend. Obama filled the university center with the
overflow watching the big screen in the football stadium. Madam Pantsuit
filled about half of a spare hangar at the airport. Bernie filled the
downtown park with people hanging off the bridges. Trump created a
complete traffic disaster at the airport. Joe might fill one of the
smaller tents where they were plaing DnD.

fwiw, I went to the Obama one. He reminded me of a stand up comic the way
he moved around the stage. Skipped all the others.

I think in 2016 Hillary sent Bill to Billings; I think she was still
pissed at both Bill and Montana. Billings is about as red as it gets.

On 2024-05-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2024 00:27:47 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2024-05-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 May 2024 11:17:04 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been using only Opera for many years now, but about a week ago I
>>>> uninstalled it in favor of Brave, which does a great job blocking ads.
>>>
>>> https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2023/06/introducing-opera-one/
>>>
>>> That one? Wise choice. What could go wrong with an AI powered browser
>>> owned by the Chinese?
>>
>> I thought Opera was still based in Norway. It looks like I'm about 8
>> years behind the curve on this one.
>
> They got bought by a Chinese consortium and fairly recently one of those
> corporations was bought out.
>
> https://cntechpost.com/2020/10/25/chinese-company-becomes-controlling-
> shareholder-of-opera/
>
> Keeping track of who owns what is like trying the follow the pea under the
> shell.
>
> Real old news but they also dropped the Presto engine in favor of a
> chromium derivative. This pissed enough people off that Vivaldi was spun
> off. It's chromium too but modified to work like Opera did with Presto.

I remember when they moved to chromium and when Vivaldi was started. I use
Vivaldi email addresses, usually not in Vivaldi's browser, however. For a
while the regional print shop that I worked for, used Opera for email since
it was built in (like the old Netscape). That was when they stopped
licensing Microsoft Office for most users. Vivaldi has an email client built
in now, like Opera does (used to?).

If I had read that China companies had bought them I promptly forgot about
it. By then I wasn't using Opera anyhow. And I would have never remembered
Presto if you hadn't mentioned it.

>> That said, I think I would rather have the Chinese government spying on
>> me rather than the CIA, NSA, etc. via U.S. social media sites.
>
> You can't win.. It's old but I've been reading Neal Stephenson's 'Reamde'.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reamde
>
> Enough to make you paranoid. This weekend is the annual Missoula Science
> Fiction & Fantasy Convention, known as MisCon. Downtown was filled with
> LARPing elves, dwarfs, warriors, and who knows what from who knows what
> fantasy world. I've never been but is is big enough that they sucked in
> George RR Martin one year. For added amusement there was also some sort of
> LDS convention. I'm guessing the ones with blue hair aren't Mormons, but
> who knows. Maybe they could get Larry Correia and cover both bases.

I keep forgetting that even Montana has college towns.

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[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine