In article <kvbnajtep9su4gr026d5hqv3nhc6buvnd5@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >> I'm just as much of one [an "FA-slur"] as a gay guy, because I've done the same
> >> things with men, sexually, that they have.
> >
> >So you are a faggot.. you just want to pour some perfume over it and make it
> >appear as something else.
> >
> >Like pretending he is a she.... by using more 'sweet smelling' language
> >rather than just admit what it is.
>
>
> That's word salad, and homophobic, and transphobic.

Consider the source.

In article <v8ep99$1r5dg$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
says...
>
> On 7/22/2024 11:32 PM, Dr. P. McGroin wrote:
> > In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People must
> > quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to distort the
> > truth.
>
> Do you accept the following definition of the word "woman" from Noah
> Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language:
>
> https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/woman
>
> If not, why not? In addition, do you accept Mr. Webster's etymology of
> the word "woman" ('womb' + 'man'). Where do you think that comes from?
>
> Dawn

Dick = male

Vagina = Female

In article <OIadnZJtC_Xwczf7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>, pursent100
@gmail.com says...
>
> Dawn Flood wrote:
> > On 7/22/2024 11:32 PM, Dr. P. McGroin wrote:
> >> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People must
> >> quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to distort the
> >> truth.
> >
> > Do you accept the following definition of the word "woman" from Noah
> > Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language:
> >
> > https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/woman
> >
> > If not, why not?  In addition, do you accept Mr. Webster's etymology of
> > the word "woman" ('womb' + 'man').  Where do you think that comes from?
> >
> > Dawn
>
> ok so where does the word id git come from

git r done

In article <XnsB1C0D7F03D8AA629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in news:v8ep99$1r5dg$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
> > On 7/22/2024 11:32 PM, Dr. P. McGroin wrote:
> >> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People must
> >> quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to distort the
> >> truth.
> >
> > Do you accept the following definition of the word "woman" from Noah
> > Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language:
> >
> > https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/woman
> >
> > If not, why not? In addition, do you accept Mr. Webster's etymology of
> > the word "woman" ('womb' + 'man'). Where do you think that comes from?
> >
> > Dawn
> >
>
>
> All of us start life as female.
>
>
>
>
> All human individuals ? whether they have
> an XX, an XY, or an atypical sex chromosome
> combination ? begin development from the same
> starting point. During early development the
> gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated;
> that is, all fetal genitalia are the same
> and are phenotypically female.
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/
>
>
>
>
> We Were Once All Female
> 14 June 2015
> It may come as a surprise to some of
> our male readers, but you all actually
> started out as females - physically and
> phenotypically speaking. In fact, the
> first five to six weeks of embryonic
> development are attributed to the X
> chromosome alone, and females grow from
> embryo to fully developed through the
> influence of only the X chromosome,"
> they say.
> https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-were-once-all-female
> https://tinyurl.com/ya555epp

So you admit a fetus is a life.

On Jul 22, 2024 at 9:32:12 PM MST, ""Dr. P. McGroin"" wrote
<v7nbob$2a824$1@news.mixmin.net>:

> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People must
> quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to distort the
> truth.

A lot of good info with 233 sources (extra credit if you find the typo!):
https://youtu.be/szf4hzQ5ztg

Quick summary of the whole it all comes down to XX/XY claims:
https://www.tiktok.com/@renegadescienceteacher/video/6842833187891055877

More details from authoritative sources:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-new-science-of-sex-and-gender/
-----
Sex is supposed to be simple—at least at the molecular level. The biological
explanations that appear in textbooks amount to X + X = and X + Y = . Venus or
Mars, pink or blue. As science looks more closely, however, it becomes
increasingly clear that a pair of chromosomes do not always suffice to
distinguish girl/boy—either from the standpoint of sex (biological traits) or
of gender (social identity).
-----

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07238-8
-----
Even more scientifically complex is a mismatch between gender and the sex on a
person’s birth certificate. Some evidence suggests that transgender identity
has genetic or hormonal roots, but its exact biological correlates are
unclear. Whatever the cause, organizations such as the American Academy of
Pediatrics advise physicians to treat people according to their preferred
gender, regardless of appearance or genetics.

The research and medical community now sees sex as more complex than male and
female, and gender as a spectrum that includes transgender people and those
who identify as neither male nor female. The US administration’s proposal
would ignore that expert consensus.
-----

https://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html#:~:text=Genetic%20Components%20of%20Sex%20and,and%20most%20men%20are%2046XY
-----
The process of biological sex differentiation (development of a given sex)
involves many genetically regulated, hierarchical developmental steps.
....
Gender, typically described in terms of masculinity and femininity, is a
social construction that varies across different cultures and over time. (6)
There are a number of cultures, for example, in which greater gender diversity
exists and sex and gender are not always neatly divided along binary lines
such as male and female or homosexual and heterosexual. The Berdache in North
America, the fa’afafine (Samoan for “the way of a woman”) in the Pacific, and
the kathoey in Thailand are all examples of different gender categories that
differ from the traditional Western division of people into males and females.
Further, among certain North American native communities, gender is seen more
in terms of a continuum than categories, with special acknowledgement of
“two-spirited” people who encompass both masculine and feminine qualities and
characteristics. It is apparent, then, that different cultures have taken
different approaches to creating gender distinctions, with more or less
recognition of fluidity and complexity of gender.
-----

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/think-gender-comes-down-to-x-and-y-chromosomes-think-again/article24811543/
-----
Think gender comes down to X and Y chromosomes? Think again
....
But biology doesn't work that way. Biological phenomena don't necessarily fit
into human-ordained binary categories. So while humans insist that you're
either male or female – that you have either XY or XX sex chromosomes –
biology begs to differ.
....
So what's the answer? There isn't one, at least if we're looking for the
answer in biology. We must not fall back on biology. Rather, we must always
remember that it is we, not biology, who decide who counts as male or female.
And it is we who must take responsibility for our decisions.
-----

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/content/two-spirits_map-html/
-----
On nearly every continent, and for all of recorded history, thriving cultures
have recognized, revered, and integrated more than two genders. Terms such as
“transgender” and “gay” are strictly new constructs that assume three things:
that there are only two sexes (male/female), as many as two sexualities
(gay/straight), and only two genders (man/woman).

Yet hundreds of distinct societies around the globe have their own
long-established traditions for third, fourth, fifth, or more genders. The
subject of Two Spirits, Fred Martinez, for example, was not a boy who wanted
to be a girl, but both a boy and a girl — an identity his Navajo culture
recognized and revered as nádleehí. Meanwhile, Hina of Kumu Hina is part of a
a native Hawaiian culture that has traditionally revered and respected mahu,
those who embody both male and female spirit.

Most Western societies have no direct correlation for this tradition, nor for
the many other communities without strict either/or conceptions of sex,
sexuality, and gender. Worldwide, the sheer variety of gender expression is
almost limitless. Take a tour and learn how other cultures see gender
diversity.
-----

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 31 Jul 2024, % <pursent100@gmail.com> posted some
news:OIadnZJtC_Xwczf7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com:

> Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 7/22/2024 11:32 PM, Dr. P. McGroin wrote:
>>> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People
>>> must quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to
>>> distort the truth.
>>
>> Do you accept the following definition of the word "woman" from Noah
>> Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language:
>>
>> https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/woman

"MasonSoft Technology Ltd" "Internet Publishing and Service company in the
English Midlands."

Try looking up homosexual or transvestite on that goofy site.

>> If not, why not?  In addition, do you accept Mr. Webster's etymology
>> of the word "woman" ('womb' + 'man').  Where do you think that comes
>> from?
>>
>> Dawn
>
> ok so where does the word id git come from

It's just another synonym for "stupid Democrat".

On 8/1/2024 2:06 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <v8ep99$1r5dg$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
> says...
>>
>> On 7/22/2024 11:32 PM, Dr. P. McGroin wrote:
>>> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People must
>>> quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to distort the
>>> truth.
>>
>> Do you accept the following definition of the word "woman" from Noah
>> Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language:
>>
>> https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/woman
>>
>> If not, why not? In addition, do you accept Mr. Webster's etymology of
>> the word "woman" ('womb' + 'man'). Where do you think that comes from?
>>
>> Dawn
>
> Dick = male
>
> Vagina = Female

That definition is neither in the Merriam Webster nor the Oxford
Dictionary of the English language.

Dawn

In article <v8h2l1$2du17$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
says...
>
> On 8/1/2024 2:06 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <v8ep99$1r5dg$1@dont-email.me>, Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> On 7/22/2024 11:32 PM, Dr. P. McGroin wrote:
> >>> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People must
> >>> quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to distort the
> >>> truth.
> >>
> >> Do you accept the following definition of the word "woman" from Noah
> >> Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language:
> >>
> >> https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/woman
> >>
> >> If not, why not? In addition, do you accept Mr. Webster's etymology of
> >> the word "woman" ('womb' + 'man'). Where do you think that comes from?
> >>
> >> Dawn
> >
> > Dick = male
> >
> > Vagina = Female
>
> That definition is neither in the Merriam Webster nor the Oxford
> Dictionary of the English language.
>
> Dawn
Oh so thats where you get your common sense?

Snit wrote:
> On Jul 22, 2024 at 9:32:12 PM MST, ""Dr. P. McGroin"" wrote
> <v7nbob$2a824$1@news.mixmin.net>:
>
>> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People must
>> quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to distort the
>> truth.
>
> A lot of good info with 233 sources (extra credit if you find the typo!):
> https://youtu.be/szf4hzQ5ztg
>
> Quick summary of the whole it all comes down to XX/XY claims:
> https://www.tiktok.com/@renegadescienceteacher/video/6842833187891055877
>
> More details from authoritative sources:
>
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-new-science-of-sex-and-gender/

SJW Unamerican is NOT an authoritative source, having been taken over by
faggots quite some time ago.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:66abdcd1$1$1427653$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <XnsB1C0D7F03D8AA629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> says...
>>
>> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:v8ep99$1r5dg$1@dont- email.me:
>>
>> > On 7/22/2024 11:32 PM, Dr. P. McGroin wrote:
>> >> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People
>> >> must quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to
>> >> distort the truth.
>> >
>> > Do you accept the following definition of the word "woman" from
>> > Noah Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language:
>> >
>> > https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/woman
>> >
>> > If not, why not? In addition, do you accept Mr. Webster's
>> > etymology of the word "woman" ('womb' + 'man'). Where do you think
>> > that comes from?
>> >
>> > Dawn
>> >
>>
>>
>> All of us start life as female.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> All human individuals ? whether they have
>> an XX, an XY, or an atypical sex chromosome
>> combination ? begin development from the same
>> starting point. During early development the
>> gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated;
>> that is, all fetal genitalia are the same
>> and are phenotypically female.
>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> We Were Once All Female
>> 14 June 2015
>> It may come as a surprise to some of
>> our male readers, but you all actually
>> started out as females - physically and
>> phenotypically speaking. In fact, the
>> first five to six weeks of embryonic
>> development are attributed to the X
>> chromosome alone, and females grow from
>> embryo to fully developed through the
>> influence of only the X chromosome,"
>> they say.
>> https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-were-once-all-female
>> https://tinyurl.com/ya555epp
>
> So you admit a fetus is a life.
>

An egg is not a chicken.

An acorn is not a tree.

A caterpillar is not a butterfly.

A embryo is not a person.

On 01 Aug 2024, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> posted some
news:66abdecb$2$1895493$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> On Jul 22, 2024 at 9:32:12 PM MST, ""Dr. P. McGroin"" wrote
><v7nbob$2a824$1@news.mixmin.net>:
>
>> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People
>> must quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to
>> distort the truth.
>
> A lot of good info with 233 sources (extra credit if you find the
> typo!): https://youtu.be/szf4hzQ5ztg
>
> Quick summary of the whole it all comes down to XX/XY claims:
> https://www.tiktok.com/@renegadescienceteacher/video/684283318789105587
> 7
>
>
>
> Most Western societies have no direct correlation for this tradition,
> nor for the many other communities without strict either/or
> conceptions of sex, sexuality, and gender. Worldwide, the sheer
> variety of gender expression is almost limitless. Take a tour and
> learn how other cultures see gender diversity.

Right. We just saw how the French view it. The British monarchy has been
full of faggots for centuries. The British and Roman empires both failed
because of homosexual acceptance.

So it's your choice. Make the correct one that assures the survival of
the smart and fit, or bend over and take it up the ass like socialist
liberals and get treated as that kind deserves.

Even the UK has changed their tune on the transgender treatment silliness.
Get with the times, read.

In article <XnsB1C1D15BE573A629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:66abdcd1$1$1427653$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <XnsB1C0D7F03D8AA629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:v8ep99$1r5dg$1@dont- email.me:
> >>
> >> > On 7/22/2024 11:32 PM, Dr. P. McGroin wrote:
> >> >> In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People
> >> >> must quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to
> >> >> distort the truth.
> >> >
> >> > Do you accept the following definition of the word "woman" from
> >> > Noah Webster's 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language:
> >> >
> >> > https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/woman
> >> >
> >> > If not, why not? In addition, do you accept Mr. Webster's
> >> > etymology of the word "woman" ('womb' + 'man'). Where do you think
> >> > that comes from?
> >> >
> >> > Dawn
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> All of us start life as female.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> All human individuals ? whether they have
> >> an XX, an XY, or an atypical sex chromosome
> >> combination ? begin development from the same
> >> starting point. During early development the
> >> gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated;
> >> that is, all fetal genitalia are the same
> >> and are phenotypically female.
> >> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We Were Once All Female
> >> 14 June 2015
> >> It may come as a surprise to some of
> >> our male readers, but you all actually
> >> started out as females - physically and
> >> phenotypically speaking. In fact, the
> >> first five to six weeks of embryonic
> >> development are attributed to the X
> >> chromosome alone, and females grow from
> >> embryo to fully developed through the
> >> influence of only the X chromosome,"
> >> they say.
> >> https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-were-once-all-female
> >> https://tinyurl.com/ya555epp
> >
> > So you admit a fetus is a life.
> >
>
>
>

>
> A embryo is not a person.
>
Who says? You?

Mitchell Holman wrote:

> A embryo is not a person.

How about a fetus, leftist?

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fetus

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:bjlpaj1es25pspk5b5875juvg1v0antfi0@4ax.com:

> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
>> A embryo is not a person.
>
> How about a fetus, leftist?
>
> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fetus
>
>

Are the frozen embryos in IVF labs people?

>In medicine we say at birth, sex is observed and recorded. People must
>quit using the nonsense phrases the woke idiots put forth to distort the
>truth.
>

Most men who grow up to be rightists were born without testicles.

Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> Are the frozen embryos in IVF labs people?

Why are you sounding so senile lately, cornholer?

https://advancedfertility.com/fertility-treatment/ivf/embryo-freezing/

How many embryos are frozen on the average with an IVF cycle?
This is also age dependent
Younger women respond better to the IVF ovarian stimulation process and
produce more eggs, resulting in a higher likelihood for having excess
embryos available for freezing
The graph below shows the average number of leftover embryos frozen in
2010-2011 according to the female’s age

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> A embryo is not a person.

No embryo = no person.

You genocidal cornholer.

Mitchell Holman wrote:

> chrisv wrote in
>>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>> A embryo is not a person.
>>
>> How about a fetus, leftist?
>>
>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fetus
>
>Are the frozen embryos in IVF labs people?

Answer my question, and I'll answer yours, leftist.

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:l9fqajt4bs8r1fb5udrsp8cm89these2dc@4ax.com:

> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
>> chrisv wrote in
>>>
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A embryo is not a person.
>>>
>>> How about a fetus, leftist?
>>>

Fetuses are not people.

>>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fetus
>>
>>Are the frozen embryos in IVF labs people?

Well?

>
> Answer my question, and I'll answer yours, leftist.

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> news:l9fqajt4bs8r1fb5udrsp8cm89these2dc@4ax.com:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv wrote in
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A embryo is not a person.
>>>>
>>>> How about a fetus, leftist?
>>>>
>
>
> Fetuses are not people.
>
>
>>>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fetus
>>>
>>> Are the frozen embryos in IVF labs people?
>
>
> Well?
>
>
>>
>> Answer my question, and I'll answer yours, leftist.
>
>
no , those are egg mcmuffins ready to be shipped to locations
and a nice steal on a % line here too

Mitchell Holman wrote:

>chrisv wrote:
>>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>> chrisv wrote in
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A embryo is not a person.
>>>>
>>>> How about a fetus, leftist?
>
> Fetuses are not people.

From the definition of fetus: "body structures are in the recognizable
form of its kind"

So why did you post the below analogies, none of which is similar?

>>> An egg is not a chicken.
>>> An acorn is not a tree.
>>> A caterpillar is not a butterfly.

You routinely show yourself to be illogical and disingenuous.

>>>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fetus
>>>
>>>Are the frozen embryos in IVF labs people?
>
> Well?

They are not, IMO.

My position is attackable, as is everyone's who does not take one of
the extreme positions. The "life starts at conception" argument is
the most coherent, really, but I would favor some grace period, such
as the embryo to fetus transition.

>
>
> Fetuses are not people.

One day the supreme court will give Fetuses the vote.

The religious Christian right rape children all the time.

In article <XnsB1C2D1DE17E9F629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> news:l9fqajt4bs8r1fb5udrsp8cm89these2dc@4ax.com:
>
> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >
> >> chrisv wrote in
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> A embryo is not a person.
> >>>
> >>> How about a fetus, leftist?
> >>>
>
>
> Fetuses are not people.

Then how do you identify their sex before they are born?
>
>
> >>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/fetus
> >>
> >>Are the frozen embryos in IVF labs people?
>
>
> Well?
>
>
> >
> > Answer my question, and I'll answer yours, leftist.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66ae5098$0$1895498
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <XnsB1C2D1DE17E9F629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> says...
>>
>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>> news:l9fqajt4bs8r1fb5udrsp8cm89these2dc@4ax.com:
>>
>> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >
>> >> chrisv wrote in
>> >>>
>> >>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A embryo is not a person.
>> >>>
>> >>> How about a fetus, leftist?
>> >>>
>>
>>
>> Fetuses are not people.
>
> Then how do you identify their sex before they are born?
>>

Who says you have to?

>> Are the frozen embryos in IVF labs people?

Well?

On 8/3/2024 11:09 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66ae5098$0$1895498
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <XnsB1C2D1DE17E9F629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>> news:l9fqajt4bs8r1fb5udrsp8cm89these2dc@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> chrisv wrote in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A embryo is not a person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about a fetus, leftist?
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fetuses are not people.
>>
>> Then how do you identify their sex before they are born?
>>>
>
> Who says you have to?

Stupid liberals having ignorant reveal parties.