“At Arm, we are united in our commitment to create an inclusive
environment where representation matters, people are valued, diverse
perspectives are heard, and everyone’s skills are fully utilized. We
know that having a diverse workforce and inclusive culture makes us
better and enables us to build the future of computing on Arm. Together.
For everyone.”
- Tamika Curry Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Diversity Officer

https://www.arm.com/company/diversity-equity-inclusion

Tamika? heh! You go gurl! You tell 'em!

DFS wrote:
>
> “At Arm, we are united in our commitment to create an inclusive
> environment where representation matters, people are valued, diverse
> perspectives are heard, and everyone’s skills are fully utilized. We
> know that having a diverse workforce and inclusive culture makes us
> better and enables us to build the future of computing on Arm. Together.
> For everyone.”
> - Tamika Curry Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Diversity Officer
>
> https://www.arm.com/company/diversity-equity-inclusion
>
>
> Tamika?   heh!   You go gurl!  You tell 'em!
>
>
>
everybody get a bat and beat the person next to you

On 2024-07-11 11:04 a.m., DFS wrote:
>
> “At Arm, we are united in our commitment to create an inclusive
> environment where representation matters, people are valued, diverse
> perspectives are heard, and everyone’s skills are fully utilized. We
> know that having a diverse workforce and inclusive culture makes us
> better and enables us to build the future of computing on Arm. Together.
> For everyone.”
> - Tamika Curry Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Diversity Officer
>
> https://www.arm.com/company/diversity-equity-inclusion
>
>
> Tamika?   heh!   You go gurl!  You tell 'em!

The inevitable results of diversity and inclusion:

<https://www.azfamily.com/2023/02/20/police-identify-2-men-allegedly-attacked-by-co-worker-chandler-intel-facility/>

Negro ejaculates on woman's leg at dollar store:
<https://files.catbox.moe/s70ynt.mp4>

Luckily for us, they tend to solve the problem they cause:

<https://gab.com/TraitorAssassin/posts/112765323204482786/media/1?timeline=video-clips>

--
WittySausage

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>“At Arm, we are united in our commitment to create an inclusive
>environment where representation matters, people are valued, diverse
>perspectives are heard, and everyone’s skills are fully utilized. We
>know that having a diverse workforce and inclusive culture makes us
>better and enables us to build the future of computing on Arm. Together.
>For everyone.”
>- Tamika Curry Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Diversity Officer
>
>https://www.arm.com/company/diversity-equity-inclusion
>
>
>Tamika? heh! You go gurl! You tell 'em!

What is wrong with any of the stuff in that page?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> “At Arm, we are united in our commitment to create an inclusive
>> environment where representation matters, people are valued, diverse
>> perspectives are heard, and everyone’s skills are fully utilized. We
>> know that having a diverse workforce and inclusive culture makes us
>> better and enables us to build the future of computing on Arm. Together.
>> For everyone.”
>> - Tamika Curry Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Diversity Officer
>>
>> https://www.arm.com/company/diversity-equity-inclusion
>>
>>
>> Tamika? heh! You go gurl! You tell 'em!
>
>
> What is wrong with any of the stuff in that page?
>
its not gay

On 7/11/2024 3:44 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> “At Arm, we are united in our commitment to create an inclusive
>> environment where representation matters, people are valued, diverse
>> perspectives are heard, and everyone’s skills are fully utilized. We
>> know that having a diverse workforce and inclusive culture makes us
>> better and enables us to build the future of computing on Arm. Together.
>> For everyone.”
>> - Tamika Curry Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Diversity Officer
>>
>> https://www.arm.com/company/diversity-equity-inclusion
>>
>>
>> Tamika? heh! You go gurl! You tell 'em!
>
>
> What is wrong with any of the stuff in that page?

It's ALL a disgusting effort to attract non-straight-White-male
demographic groups into jobs they didn't want in the first place, ie
women just don't like computer programming (don't even pretend to show
me a few exceptions that prove the rule).

There's nothing wrong with hiring non-straight-White-males, of course,
but setting goals and quotas for them, and thus intentionally excluding
straight White males, is illegal and discriminatory. Yet virtually
every big company in the world blatantly does it, as if it's righting
some wrong that never occurred in the first place.

I wish Arm would show pics of ALL their chip designers and developers. I
bet 98% are White and Asian males. Those White and Asian males made the
company what it is today. Extreme intelligence is the ONLY trait that
matters in designing and manufacturing CPU chips. The innate but
visible traits of race and sex are 100% irrelevant.

On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 15:29:10 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Idiotic. One of the best programmers I knew was a women, and we had
> multiple female programmers on our team(s).

I knew a couple of excellent female programmers -- in 50 years. I even
tried to hire one but she turned down the offer. Women do not tend to
become programmers and I don't think it has much to do with ability as
much as personality. Most women aren't weird enough to be programmers or
at least not weird in the programmer way. Venus, Mars, usw.

rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 15:29:10 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Idiotic. One of the best programmers I knew was a women, and we had
>> multiple female programmers on our team(s).
>
> I knew a couple of excellent female programmers -- in 50 years. I even
> tried to hire one but she turned down the offer. Women do not tend to
> become programmers and I don't think it has much to do with ability as
> much as personality. Most women aren't weird enough to be programmers or
> at least not weird in the programmer way. Venus, Mars, usw.
>
i knew lots of them at IBM in toronto

On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:08:32 -0700, % wrote:

> rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 15:29:10 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Idiotic. One of the best programmers I knew was a women, and we had
>>> multiple female programmers on our team(s).
>>
>> I knew a couple of excellent female programmers -- in 50 years. I even
>> tried to hire one but she turned down the offer. Women do not tend to
>> become programmers and I don't think it has much to do with ability as
>> much as personality. Most women aren't weird enough to be programmers
>> or at least not weird in the programmer way. Venus, Mars, usw.
>>
> i knew lots of them at IBM in toronto

Probably. I've always worked for smaller companies where there is a
different dynamic. Dead wood gets pruned frequently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

In some ways it's dated but I still think it's one of the more valuable
reads in general and particularly for managers. Companies like IBM,
Google, and so forth have lots of programmers. I don't know how the
structure is now but at one time programmers were the entry level peons
coding what systems analysts designed. The titles may have changed but
there probably still is a similar hierarchy despite all the agile lip
service. Hire enough people and there will be more women.

Boeing was notorious for hiring 100 newly graduated engineers, taking a
year to sort out the 5 or 10 best, and firing the rest. These days I think
they fire the 5 or 10 and keep the mediocre.

Part of it is the economic outlook but this week Dell caused a meltdown in
their HR department by firing 12,500 people in one day. You've got to
wonder what they were all doing. Of course Dell must use equal opportunity
firing.

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 18:08:32 -0700, % wrote:
>
>> rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 15:29:10 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> Idiotic. One of the best programmers I knew was a women, and we had
>>>> multiple female programmers on our team(s).
>>>
>>> I knew a couple of excellent female programmers -- in 50 years. I even
>>> tried to hire one but she turned down the offer. Women do not tend to
>>> become programmers and I don't think it has much to do with ability as
>>> much as personality. Most women aren't weird enough to be programmers
>>> or at least not weird in the programmer way. Venus, Mars, usw.
>>>
>> i knew lots of them at IBM in toronto
>
> Probably. I've always worked for smaller companies where there is a
> different dynamic. Dead wood gets pruned frequently.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month
>
> In some ways it's dated but I still think it's one of the more valuable
> reads in general and particularly for managers.

It's worth reading. "Adding people to a late software project makes it later."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_McCarthy_(author)

Jim McCarthy is an author and keynote speaker on software engineering
practices. While working at Microsoft, he led the team that developed
Visual C++[1] and wrote Dynamics of Software Development (1995), which
popularized applying the term bozo bit to human interaction.

That's also a good book, even though the author gloats over killing
Borland's competing C++ development environment.

--
An honest tale speeds best being plainly told.
-- William Shakespeare, "Henry VI"

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>It's worth reading. "Adding people to a late software project makes it later."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_McCarthy_(author)
>
> Jim McCarthy is an author and keynote speaker on software engineering
> practices. While working at Microsoft, he led the team that developed
> Visual C++[1] and wrote Dynamics of Software Development (1995), which
> popularized applying the term bozo bit to human interaction.
>
>That's also a good book, even though the author gloats over killing
>Borland's competing C++ development environment.

I owned Borland C++ 4.x and then 5.x, for Win3.x and then 95. Proudly
purchased it boxed on CD-ROM from Egghead, in 1995. And yet I barely
scratched the surface of developing anything with it, I made one DOS
program that worked, but no GUI stuff, and I think I used it for
college work some. It's remarkable how quickly it got outdated, with
what I paid for it back then (a few hundred).

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

rbowman wrote:

>Boeing was notorious for hiring 100 newly graduated engineers, taking a
>year to sort out the 5 or 10 best, and firing the rest. These days I think
>they fire the 5 or 10 and keep the mediocre.

I would think not, but the misguided drive for profit, profit, we
gotta make more profit sure backfired on them. Assholes.

Misguided, of course, because their efforts *reduced* their profits,
in the end.

And now we see Intel struggling with quality problems that are biting
them in the ass. Two of the last great American companies, going down
the tubes like the rest of the country.

On 2024-08-08 9:05 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 15:29:10 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Idiotic. One of the best programmers I knew was a women, and we had
>> multiple female programmers on our team(s).
>
> I knew a couple of excellent female programmers -- in 50 years. I even
> tried to hire one but she turned down the offer. Women do not tend to
> become programmers and I don't think it has much to do with ability as
> much as personality. Most women aren't weird enough to be programmers or
> at least not weird in the programmer way. Venus, Mars, usw.

It might be because some of those women have Asperger's or autism. Those
people handle things like programming a lot better than the rest of us
and I don't believe that there are differences between gender when it
comes to it.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Progressives are brain-damaged demonic groomers

On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 07:33:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> That's also a good book, even though the author gloats over killing
> Borland's competing C++ development environment.

Borland C++/OWL was where I started Windows programming but the 500 pound
gorilla won.

I don't know how badly Borland's purchase of Ashton-Tate (dBase) hurt
them. They fumbled around while MS snapped up the Fox dBase clone and
unleashed FoxPro in the world.

On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 07:41:20 -0400, Joel wrote:

> I owned Borland C++ 4.x and then 5.x, for Win3.x and then 95. Proudly
> purchased it boxed on CD-ROM from Egghead, in 1995. And yet I barely
> scratched the surface of developing anything with it, I made one DOS
> program that worked, but no GUI stuff, and I think I used it for college
> work some. It's remarkable how quickly it got outdated, with what I
> paid for it back then (a few hundred).

I think I still have the box in my RV down in Arizona. If the RV is still
there that is -- the site is 25 miles from the border at Lukeville which
became a hotspot for illegals when they upped surveillance at Tucson and
Yuma.

On 2024-08-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 07:33:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> That's also a good book, even though the author gloats over killing
>> Borland's competing C++ development environment.
>
> Borland C++/OWL was where I started Windows programming but the 500 pound
> gorilla won.
>
> I don't know how badly Borland's purchase of Ashton-Tate (dBase) hurt
> them. They fumbled around while MS snapped up the Fox dBase clone and
> unleashed FoxPro in the world.

dBase was a big part of my job for a couple years. The company provided both
the Windows and the DOS versions, but I hardly ever used the Windows
version. (I personally bought both of these, but the documentation and disks
are in storage in Texas... so they're probably eaten by the rats by now. You
can find both on "abandonware" sites in about 10 seconds anyhow.)

And speaking of "abandonware" ... a Canadian SF writer (Robert J Sawyer) has
decided to put WordStar 7 for DOS out there (with documentation and
utilities, etc., over 28 MB zip file).

https://sfwriter.com/blog/?p=5806

https://sfwriter.com/ws7.htm

It's been widely reported.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/06/wordstar_7_the_last_ever/

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/08/wordstar-7-for-dos-gets-a-free-re-release-from-one-of-its-biggest-author-fans/

https://www.thurrott.com/classic-technology/306768/wordstar-7-for-ms-dos-is-now-available-for-free-in-complete-archive

https://retrocomputingforum.com/t/wordstar-for-dos-7-0-archive/4295

https://www.reddit.com/r/thisweekinretro/comments/1em4l5x/wordstar_7_the_last_ever_dos_version_is/

https://blog.adafruit.com/2024/08/07/sci-fi-writer-and-wordstar-lover-re-releases-the-cult-dos-app-for-free/

https://www.osnews.com/story/140431/wordstar-for-dos-7-0-archive/

I wonder if anyone will force Sawyer to remove his "archive."

I still use it (occasionally) in DOSBox-X in Linux.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 07:33:47 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> That's also a good book, even though the author gloats over killing
>> Borland's competing C++ development environment.
>
> Borland C++/OWL was where I started Windows programming but the 500 pound
> gorilla won.
>
> I don't know how badly Borland's purchase of Ashton-Tate (dBase) hurt
> them. They fumbled around while MS snapped up the Fox dBase clone and
> unleashed FoxPro in the world.

I used Borland C++/OWL (the latter a little bit iffy) when I was self-employed
for awhile.

Then when working on a Navy project, we chose Borland C++ Builder, which was
fine with me. I should have digged deeper.

Stepping through the debugger, I saw some weird behavior in the
constructors. Eventually I realized that Borland used VCL, a library based on
Borland Delphi, basically Object Pascal. I nearly crapped meself!

It tooks years until we adopted... Visual Studio. Aye yi yi!

These days I use the terminal, tmux, vim/gvim, cgdb/gdb, and g++/clang++
and am happy.

--
Q: What is printed on the bottom of beer bottles in Minnesota?
A: Open other end.

>
>It's ALL a disgusting effort to attract non-straight-White-male
>demographic groups into jobs they didn't want in the first place, ie
>women just don't like computer programming (don't even pretend to show
>me a few exceptions that prove the rule).
>

We need a military consisting of 100% white male Protestants.

A great Ayran army.

Ubiquitous wrote:
>>
>> It's ALL a disgusting effort to attract non-straight-White-male
>> demographic groups into jobs they didn't want in the first place, ie
>> women just don't like computer programming (don't even pretend to show
>> me a few exceptions that prove the rule).
>>
>
> We need a military consisting of 100% white male Protestants.
>
> A great Ayran army.
>
Talk to Bibi.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Ubiquitous <webermark@polaris.net> wrote:
>>
>>It's ALL a disgusting effort to attract non-straight-White-male
>>demographic groups into jobs they didn't want in the first place, ie
>>women just don't like computer programming (don't even pretend to show
>>me a few exceptions that prove the rule).
>>
>
> We need a military consisting of 100% white male Protestants.
>
> A great Ayran army.

Would you settle for a militia that's 100% White
and male, but predominantly Catholic?
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/5atxr7v8.mp4

CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-08-08 9:05 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 15:29:10 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> Idiotic. One of the best programmers I knew was a women, and we had
>>> multiple female programmers on our team(s).
>>
>> I knew a couple of excellent female programmers -- in 50 years. I even
>> tried to hire one but she turned down the offer. Women do not tend to
>> become programmers and I don't think it has much to do with ability as
>> much as personality. Most women aren't weird enough to be programmers or
>> at least not weird in the programmer way. Venus, Mars, usw.
>
> It might be because some of those women have Asperger's or autism. Those
> people handle things like programming a lot better than the rest of us
> and I don't believe that there are differences between gender when it
> comes to it.

There are differences when it comes to prevalence. Men are far more likely
to have Asperger's than women.