On Wed, 22 May 2024 00:54:39 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote:

>On Tue, 21 May 2024 20:34:14 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote
>in <aafq4jlghjlc5ri5arkv9etvek17m243m7@4ax.com>:
>
>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 22:23:50 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 21 May 2024 22:02:42 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>>><ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v2j5m1$pinq$4@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 19 May 2024 07:51:25 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Even the free software community considers Usenet to be dead. I guess
>>>>> it's Thunderbird or nothing if you want a GUI.
>>>>
>>>> Claws Mail still has NNTP support.
>>>
>>>So does Pan, which is still under active development, despite
>>>Fedora's failings.
>>>
>>>(Andrzej is prone to making statements that may or may not
>>>align with reality...YMMV, caveat emptor.)
>>
>> Yet another pointless insult from Scott. Nobody uses Claws Mail, so I
>> might be forgiven for not being aware that it has NNTP support.
>
>How is that an insult?
>
>Meanwhile, "Even the free software community considers
>Usenet to be dead" is a borderline insult to Usenet
>denizens everywhere -- besides being untrue, and fair
>game for criticism.

Well, if you can name a few Internet service providers which still
provide Usenet access, be my guest. Google, for its part, has finally
disconnected Usenet. It seems that the only people who know about
Usenet now are people who were around in the 90s and grew up with it.
Everyone else has no idea what it is, and wouldn't know how to access
it anyway. I'm not trying to insult the free software community in
saying that Usenet is dead to them; I'm pointing out what I'm seeing.
Even Linux Mint offers access to an exclusive Discord server for
messaging and has forums. They too don't bother with Usenet.

Andrzej Matuch wrote:

>I'll stick to Forte Agent for now, but I will be the first to admit
>that its filtering options aren't too good. I have no idea if it's
>even possible to delete the crossposted crap in this program.

I don't think that it can filter cross-posts. Fortunately for me I've
never wanted that functionality.

--
"Remember, these are the same people who declared the OpenMoko phone,
the iPhone killer." - flathead, lying shamelessly

On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:21:09 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>>I'll stick to Forte Agent for now, but I will be the first to admit
>>that its filtering options aren't too good. I have no idea if it's
>>even possible to delete the crossposted crap in this program.
>
>I don't think that it can filter cross-posts. Fortunately for me I've
>never wanted that functionality.

It would have been useful to get rid of these idiotic posts between
Joel Crump and the clowns rightfully making fun of him.

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:21:09 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
>wrote:
>>Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>>>I'll stick to Forte Agent for now, but I will be the first to admit
>>>that its filtering options aren't too good. I have no idea if it's
>>>even possible to delete the crossposted crap in this program.
>>
>>I don't think that it can filter cross-posts. Fortunately for me I've
>>never wanted that functionality.
>
>It would have been useful to get rid of these idiotic posts between
>Joel Crump and the clowns rightfully making fun of him.

Grow a dick, flaming queer who likes cis women despite being a faggot
beyond belief. Go pray the Rosary or some retarded shit, dickless
white moron.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:53:02 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:

> Well, if you can name a few Internet service providers which still
> provide Usenet access, be my guest. Google, for its part, has finally
> disconnected Usenet. It seems that the only people who know about Usenet
> now are people who were around in the 90s and grew up with it.

The ISP I was using dropped Usenet sometime in the early 2000's. It takes
a lot of storage to run a NNTP node. Even when it was still up I got much
better performance from a server in Berlin than the one 8 miles away.

On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:21:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> I don't think that it can filter cross-posts. Fortunately for me I've
> never wanted that functionality.

On Pan my filter gives a score of -9999 to anything with more than 2 NGs.
I was getting tired of the shit from alt.fan.rushlimbaugh and other troll
sites.

On 22 May 2024 14:39:13 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:53:02 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>> Well, if you can name a few Internet service providers which still
>> provide Usenet access, be my guest. Google, for its part, has finally
>> disconnected Usenet. It seems that the only people who know about Usenet
>> now are people who were around in the 90s and grew up with it.
>
>The ISP I was using dropped Usenet sometime in the early 2000's. It takes
>a lot of storage to run a NNTP node. Even when it was still up I got much
>better performance from a server in Berlin than the one 8 miles away.

That was back when people uploaded lots of pirated content to the
alt.binaries groups. I doubt they still do.

On 22 May 2024 14:41:20 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:21:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>
>> I don't think that it can filter cross-posts. Fortunately for me I've
>> never wanted that functionality.
>
>On Pan my filter gives a score of -9999 to anything with more than 2 NGs.
>I was getting tired of the shit from alt.fan.rushlimbaugh and other troll
>sites.

I had the same filter on Pan. I forgot that Forte Agent's filtering
system was so primitive. At the very least, I'm not getting graphical
errors in Agent.

Why not use slrn, AndreM ?

On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:49:15 -0700 (Seattle), "Relf"
<Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:

>Why not use slrn, AndreM ?

Whoever maintained the Windows version no longer offers it as his
domain is up for sale.

"Relf" <Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:

>Why not use slrn, AndreM ?

Agent isn't stellar on filtering, not that it matters to me
personally, but using slrn as terrific as it is is not GUI. Agent
runs almost without any difference under Wine, so why would I use
something else? It's what I started using greater than 20 years ago,
when OE wasn't satisfactory.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-05-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:53:02 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>> Well, if you can name a few Internet service providers which still
>> provide Usenet access, be my guest. Google, for its part, has finally
>> disconnected Usenet. It seems that the only people who know about Usenet
>> now are people who were around in the 90s and grew up with it.
>
> The ISP I was using dropped Usenet sometime in the early 2000's. It takes
> a lot of storage to run a NNTP node. Even when it was still up I got much
> better performance from a server in Berlin than the one 8 miles away.

That was my experience with the last provider who offered Usenet (in the
early or mid 2000's). They contracted to another company for Usenet, I would
tell them that Usenet was NOT working and they would refer me to the
contracting company who NEVER responded. That's when I went with the German
outfit (which eventually became individual.net and became a paid service). I
tried to pay them but the billing outfit they were using didn't like
something about my debit card — so I ended up going to eternal-september
(another German outfit). I've been with them ever since.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-22, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 22 May 2024 14:39:13 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:53:02 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>>> Well, if you can name a few Internet service providers which still
>>> provide Usenet access, be my guest. Google, for its part, has finally
>>> disconnected Usenet. It seems that the only people who know about Usenet
>>> now are people who were around in the 90s and grew up with it.
>>
>>The ISP I was using dropped Usenet sometime in the early 2000's. It takes
>>a lot of storage to run a NNTP node. Even when it was still up I got much
>>better performance from a server in Berlin than the one 8 miles away.
>
> That was back when people uploaded lots of pirated content to the
> alt.binaries groups. I doubt they still do.

I've only used text on Usenet. Individual.net and eternal-september.org have
never had binary newsgroups. That was all I ever needed.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-22, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>>I'll stick to Forte Agent for now, but I will be the first to admit
>>that its filtering options aren't too good. I have no idea if it's
>>even possible to delete the crossposted crap in this program.
>
> I don't think that it can filter cross-posts. Fortunately for me I've
> never wanted that functionality.

That's the first filter I put into my slrn scorefile. If it's crossposted I
don't see it.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:21:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>
>> I don't think that it can filter cross-posts. Fortunately for me I've
>> never wanted that functionality.
>
> On Pan my filter gives a score of -9999 to anything with more than 2 NGs.
> I was getting tired of the shit from alt.fan.rushlimbaugh and other troll
> sites.

First filter in my scorefile...

[*]
Score: -9999
Xref: :.*:

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-22, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2024 08:49:15 -0700 (Seattle), "Relf"
><Usenet@Jeff-Relf.Me> wrote:
>
>>Why not use slrn, AndreM ?
>
> Whoever maintained the Windows version no longer offers it as his
> domain is up for sale.

It looks like it's still available for Windows here.

https://slrn.info/download.html

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On Thu, 23 May 2024 01:35:05 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> That's when I went with the German outfit (which eventually became
> individual.net and became a paid service). I tried to pay them but the
> billing outfit they were using didn't like something about my debit card
> — so I ended up going to eternal-september (another German outfit). I've
> been with them ever since.

After it went paid they were using a European version of PayPal,
Click'n'Buy iirc. Every year I would get an alert from MasterCard about
suspicious activity when the 10 Euro charge hit. I would approve it and
life went on. C'n'B folded eventually and now they use PayPal so it goes
much smoother.

It keeps me in tune with exchange rates. It used to be about US$ 15, but
now it's $10.92. When the EU gets through screwing around it might become
a real bargain.

On 2024-05-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2024 01:35:05 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> That's when I went with the German outfit (which eventually became
>> individual.net and became a paid service). I tried to pay them but the
>> billing outfit they were using didn't like something about my debit card
>> — so I ended up going to eternal-september (another German outfit). I've
>> been with them ever since.
>
> After it went paid they were using a European version of PayPal,
> Click'n'Buy iirc. Every year I would get an alert from MasterCard about
> suspicious activity when the 10 Euro charge hit. I would approve it and
> life went on. C'n'B folded eventually and now they use PayPal so it goes
> much smoother.
>
> It keeps me in tune with exchange rates. It used to be about US$ 15, but
> now it's $10.92. When the EU gets through screwing around it might become
> a real bargain.

I think the British Pound used to be over $2 (when I bought Sinclair
computer stuff from England). Now it's at $1.27. The euro is at $1.08. The
Canadian dollar used to be almost even (sometimes higher), now it's at 73¢.

Wonder what will happen when the petro-dollar collapses?

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On Thu, 23 May 2024 01:38:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2024-05-22, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>>>I'll stick to Forte Agent for now, but I will be the first to admit
>>>that its filtering options aren't too good. I have no idea if it's
>>>even possible to delete the crossposted crap in this program.
>>
>> I don't think that it can filter cross-posts. Fortunately for me I've
>> never wanted that functionality.
>
>That's the first filter I put into my slrn scorefile. If it's crossposted I
>don't see it.

If anyone figures out how to filter crossposts in Agent, please let me
know. As much of an embarrassment as Joel Crump is, I don't need a
daily reminder.

On 5/23/2024 7:52 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2024 01:38:41 -0000 (UTC), RonB
> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-05-22, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll stick to Forte Agent for now, but I will be the first to admit
>>>> that its filtering options aren't too good. I have no idea if it's
>>>> even possible to delete the crossposted crap in this program.
>>>
>>> I don't think that it can filter cross-posts. Fortunately for me I've
>>> never wanted that functionality.
>>
>> That's the first filter I put into my slrn scorefile. If it's crossposted I
>> don't see it.
>
> If anyone figures out how to filter crossposts in Agent, please let me
> know. As much of an embarrassment as Joel Crump is, I don't need a
> daily reminder.

A pedophile named Peter Olcott posts to comp.lang.c and comp.theory, and
various people engage with him and post in his threads.

https://www.ketv.com/article/man-believed-child-porn-was-legal-because-he-was-god-authorities-say/7652218

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:

>If anyone figures out how to filter crossposts in Agent, please let me
>know. As much of an embarrassment as Joel Crump is, I don't need a
>daily reminder.

Yeah, you prefer Trump, heh.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Thu, 23 May 2024 05:20:51 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> I think the British Pound used to be over $2 (when I bought Sinclair
> computer stuff from England). Now it's at $1.27. The euro is at $1.08.
> The Canadian dollar used to be almost even (sometimes higher), now it's
> at 73¢.

I haven't followed it over the years but the last time I remember the
Canadian dollar being at par was in the '60s. Back in the '90s I went to
Kelowna BC frequently so I'd exchange USDs at a bank. I was a treat
getting a wad of multicolored bills totaling about $130 USD for a
Frankiln.

I've been to Mexico when they were going crazy. I never exchanged money
but in a casual transaction the change from $1 US would weigh you down
with all sorts of coins. iirc the Peso was 20,000 to the dollar.

On 2024-05-23 3:49 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2024 05:20:51 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> I think the British Pound used to be over $2 (when I bought Sinclair
>> computer stuff from England). Now it's at $1.27. The euro is at $1.08.
>> The Canadian dollar used to be almost even (sometimes higher), now it's
>> at 73¢.
>
> I haven't followed it over the years but the last time I remember the
> Canadian dollar being at par was in the '60s.

The Canadian dollar briefly had more value than the US dollar somewhere
around 2008.

< snip >

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2024-05-23 3:49 p.m., rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 May 2024 05:20:51 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> I think the British Pound used to be over $2 (when I bought Sinclair
>>> computer stuff from England). Now it's at $1.27. The euro is at $1.08.
>>> The Canadian dollar used to be almost even (sometimes higher), now it's
>>> at 73¢.
>>
>> I haven't followed it over the years but the last time I remember the
>> Canadian dollar being at par was in the '60s.
>
> The Canadian dollar briefly had more value than the US dollar somewhere
> around 2008.
>
> < snip >
>
it was 18 cents more in the 60's ,
and if they keep doing what they're doing ,
it will happen again

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/23/2024 7:52 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>
>> If anyone figures out how to filter crossposts in Agent, please let me
>> know. As much of an embarrassment as Joel Crump is, I don't need a
>> daily reminder.
>
>A pedophile named Peter Olcott posts to comp.lang.c and comp.theory, and
>various people engage with him and post in his threads.
>
>https://www.ketv.com/article/man-believed-child-porn-was-legal-because-he-was-god-authorities-say/7652218

Larry should hang out with him, heh.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.