"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:

> On 2024-12-05 09:10, Chris wrote:
>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-05 00:26, Chris wrote:
>>>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-12-04 19:54, Chris wrote:
>>>>>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Actually you can add the country code to all your calls and the
>>>> operator/network works out whether it's local or international. Makes life
>>>> a lot easier when storing and dialling contacts when away from home.
>>>>
>>>> All my UK numbers start with +44 regardless of whether I call from home or
>>>> abroad.
>>>
>>> Absolutely.
>>>
>>> But, assuming he starts the visit on Spain, then goes to Italy. He wants
>>> to call a taxi, after seeing the number somewhere. You have to add the
>>> prefix, which will not be printed in adverts and such. They assume local.
>>
>> True. I guess the OP needs to find what the county code are. I know France
>> is +33. What's Spain?
>
> +34
>
> Italy I don't know. Ah, +39
>
> https://countrycode.org/italy
>
>>> And they will see the foreign number, which might surprise them.
>>> Hopefully they don't geofence.
>>
>> I would suspect not given tourists will be regular users of taxis,
>> especially in touristy areas.
>
> That's true.
>
> But the other day there were some comments here about restaurants that
> would not accept reservations unless you were near, so difficult to do
> from the car while travelling to that city, and used gps spoofing to
> fool the system.
>
> gps would match, phone number not.

I found restaurants in Greece somtimes wouldn't answer foreign
numbers so I always made reservations with a local SIM. Mainly
because the older staff (the owner's mother, or grandmother even)
were not confident in English. A few words of greek were
required. Taxis, no such problem IME - so long as you can
describe where you are.
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On 2024-12-05 13:48, Dave Royal wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Wrote in message:
>
>> On 2024-12-05 09:10, Chris wrote:
>>> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-12-05 00:26, Chris wrote:

....

> I found restaurants in Greece somtimes wouldn't answer foreign
> numbers so I always made reservations with a local SIM. Mainly
> because the older staff (the owner's mother, or grandmother even)
> were not confident in English. A few words of greek were
> required. Taxis, no such problem IME - so long as you can
> describe where you are.

Taxis in Spain are using apps, so that solves the spoken language barrier.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 4 Dec 2024 16:36:10 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:

>Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 20:11:38 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2024-12-03 17:28, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> >> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>> >>> micky wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> rent a sim in the country I'm going to.
>> >>>
>> >>> A SIM for any EU country ought to allow free roaming to any other EU
>> >>> country, so the O/P won't need three SIMs.
>> >>
>> >> And for the EU you probably don't need to rent a SIM, but just buy
>> >> one, probably with a pre-paid plan.
>> >>
>> >> Ken said "I'll be in Europe (Spain, France, Italy)...". If he visits
>> >> them in that order, Carlos may be able to give some suggestions/pointers
>> >> for Spain. If Ken could indicate how much minutes/'texts'/GB he would
>> >> need per unit of time, that would help.
>> >
>> >Orange had a nice offer two years ago, but I don't know currently.
>> >Almost unlimited usage for 50 or 60 euros, for a month.
>>
>> Thanks, but much more than I'm willing to spend. I hope to never need
>> to use it, but just want something available in case I need to.
>
> You said you wanted to be able to call a taxi, in case you need one.
>If so, you need to be prepared and that something is "available" is of
>little help in such cases, you need to *have* it.
>
> My advice: If you have a dual-SIM phone, buy a local pre-paid SIM when
>you arrive. Will probably only cost you the credit supplied on the SIM,
>i.e. some 10 dollars or so. If you don't have a dual-SIM phone, but can
>swap SIMs (i.e. you can't be contacted on your US number, but can still
>use things like WhatsApp), do the same (pre-paid SIM).

Thanks. It turns out that I had forgotten that I already have such a
SIM, one that I bought a year ago, for a trip I had to cancel.

>
> If you want more advice, *talk* to us. Sofar you have given very
>little information/feedback.
>
>> >The best method is not asking the locals, but entering a shop that tends
>> >to multiple brands in an immigrant district. My cousin did that in
>> >Barcelona and surprised me by finding a very good deal I did not know about.
>> >
>> >Just a note: they will ask you to show an ID. This is counter-terrorism
>> >measures since 9-11 and 11M

Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2024 16:36:10 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 20:11:38 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-12-03 17:28, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> micky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rent a sim in the country I'm going to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A SIM for any EU country ought to allow free roaming to any other EU
>>>>>> country, so the O/P won't need three SIMs.
>>>>>
>>>>> And for the EU you probably don't need to rent a SIM, but just buy
>>>>> one, probably with a pre-paid plan.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken said "I'll be in Europe (Spain, France, Italy)...". If he visits
>>>>> them in that order, Carlos may be able to give some suggestions/pointers
>>>>> for Spain. If Ken could indicate how much minutes/'texts'/GB he would
>>>>> need per unit of time, that would help.
>>>>
>>>> Orange had a nice offer two years ago, but I don't know currently.
>>>> Almost unlimited usage for 50 or 60 euros, for a month.
>>>
>>> Thanks, but much more than I'm willing to spend. I hope to never need
>>> to use it, but just want something available in case I need to.
>>
>> You said you wanted to be able to call a taxi, in case you need one.
>> If so, you need to be prepared and that something is "available" is of
>> little help in such cases, you need to *have* it.
>>
>> My advice: If you have a dual-SIM phone, buy a local pre-paid SIM when
>> you arrive. Will probably only cost you the credit supplied on the SIM,
>> i.e. some 10 dollars or so. If you don't have a dual-SIM phone, but can
>> swap SIMs (i.e. you can't be contacted on your US number, but can still
>> use things like WhatsApp), do the same (pre-paid SIM).
>
>
> Thanks. It turns out that I had forgotten that I already have such a
> SIM, one that I bought a year ago, for a trip I had to cancel.

It's probably expired. SIM don't last very long if you don't use them.

In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:45:47 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>
>>> And they will see the foreign number, which might surprise them.
>>> Hopefully they don't geofence.
>>
>> I would suspect not given tourists will be regular users of taxis,
>> especially in touristy areas.
>
>That's true.
>
>But the other day there were some comments here about restaurants that
>would not accept reservations unless you were near, so difficult to do
>from the car while travelling to that city, and used gps spoofing to
>fool the system.
>
>gps would match, phone number not.
>
>
I thought my story was related when I clicked Reply, but maybe not.

Anyhow, I wanted to buy dinner for my family when visiting them in
Florida, and my nephew or someone knew the name of the restaurant, and I
think my nephew found it on the web and we ordered a lot of Chinese
food. For some reason I checked and the restaurant, with the same name,
same spelling, was in Milwaukee. I called before they could cook it
and they refunded he money. They said it had happened before.

>Cheers, Carlos.

On 12/5/2024 11:13 PM, micky wrote:
>
> Anyhow, I wanted to buy dinner for my family when visiting them in
> Florida, and my nephew or someone knew the name of the restaurant, and I
> think my nephew found it on the web and we ordered a lot of Chinese
> food. For some reason I checked and the restaurant, with the same name,
> same spelling, was in Milwaukee. I called before they could cook it
> and they refunded he money. They said it had happened before.

Come to bed, micky.......

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On 2024-12-06 06:13, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Thu, 5 Dec 2024 11:45:47 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>>> And they will see the foreign number, which might surprise them.
>>>> Hopefully they don't geofence.
>>>
>>> I would suspect not given tourists will be regular users of taxis,
>>> especially in touristy areas.
>>
>> That's true.
>>
>> But the other day there were some comments here about restaurants that
>> would not accept reservations unless you were near, so difficult to do
>>from the car while travelling to that city, and used gps spoofing to
>> fool the system.
>>
>> gps would match, phone number not.
>>
>>
> I thought my story was related when I clicked Reply, but maybe not.
>
> Anyhow, I wanted to buy dinner for my family when visiting them in
> Florida, and my nephew or someone knew the name of the restaurant, and I
> think my nephew found it on the web and we ordered a lot of Chinese
> food. For some reason I checked and the restaurant, with the same name,
> same spelling, was in Milwaukee. I called before they could cook it
> and they refunded he money. They said it had happened before.

Ow!

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 04.12.24 16:57, sticks wrote:
> If one of the recipients has an
> android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text
> Message - RCS."

One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.

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On 2024-12-07 08:57, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 04.12.24 16:57, sticks wrote:
>> If one of the recipients has an
>> android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text
>> Message - RCS."
>
> One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.
>

It can be said it is. It is the next version of text messages.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 07.12.24 14:38, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-07 08:57, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 04.12.24 16:57, sticks wrote:
>>> If one of the recipients has an
>>> android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text
>>> Message - RCS."
>>
>> One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.
>>
>
> It can be said it is. It is the next version of text messages.

No it is not. Technically.

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On 12/7/2024 1:57 AM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 04.12.24 16:57, sticks wrote:
>> If one of the recipients has an
>> android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text
>> Message - RCS."
>
> One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.

My point was answering this snipped part of your post:

"(there is a rumour that it also exists on iPhones in the
meantime but was never seen)"

With iOS 18 you will see and can use RCS.

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In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 7 Dec 2024 14:38:33 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2024-12-07 08:57, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 04.12.24 16:57, sticks wrote:
>>> If one of the recipients has an
>>> android phone, it looks like the top one and says it will be "Text
>>> Message - RCS."
>>
>> One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.
>>
>
>It can be said it is. It is the next version of text messages.

Wikip: As of 2020, RCS has rolled out across 90 cell operators in 60
countries globally,[6] and has over 1 billion monthly active users as of
2023.[7] RCS can also be used anywhere without carrier support using
Google Messages on Android, where it is provided via their own Jibe
backend in place of a carrier's while still connected to the global RCS
network, and additionally offer end-to-end encryption....

Once a billion people have it and use it, almost everyone will soon
catch it.

On 09.12.24 15:20, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 7 Dec 2024 14:38:33 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-12-07 08:57, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> One or the other. RCS is not Text Message.
>>>
>>
>> It can be said it is. It is the next version of text messages.
>
> Wikip: As of 2020, RCS has rolled out across 90 cell operators in 60
> countries globally,[6] and has over 1 billion monthly active users as of
> 2023.[7] RCS can also be used anywhere without carrier support using
> Google Messages on Android, where it is provided via their own Jibe
> backend in place of a carrier's while still connected to the global RCS
> network, and additionally offer end-to-end encryption....

Now we know that you master copy/paste. But we also know that you do not
know what you copy/paste (hint: Google's wishful thinking).

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