On 10/28/24 3:42 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 28.10.24 15:43, Jesper wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
>> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
>> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
>> free, but free from ads and malware.
>
> Open Source: K-9. I use it on my Pixels for years.

I've used Blue Mail for years on Motorola and Pixel phones. I chose it
rather than K-9 because at the time I did not want 'push' mail and
apparently that was K-9's only option.

My computer is my main email source; I only want it on my phone when I
am (rarely) away from home for any length of time.

--
Cheers, Bev
Some people just can't be helped; you take 'em out of the rat race
for 5 minutes and they end up missing the rats! --XR650LDave

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/28/24 3:42 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> > On 28.10.24 15:43, Jesper wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
> >> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
> >> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
> >> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
> >> free, but free from ads and malware.
> >
> > Open Source: K-9. I use it on my Pixels for years.
>
> I've used Blue Mail for years on Motorola and Pixel phones. I chose it
> rather than K-9 because at the time I did not want 'push' mail and
> apparently that was K-9's only option.

That must have been a long time ago. My K-9 Mail is at least two and a
half years old - version 6.000 - and I've set the 'Fetching mail' poll
frequency to Never, for both POP3 and IMAP. Other poll frequencies are
from Every 15 minutes to Every 24 hours. Never and Every 24 hours aren't
really 'pushy' are they!> :-)

> My computer is my main email source; I only want it on my phone when I
> am (rarely) away from home for any length of time.

(As I mentioned before,) Same here.

On 30.10.24 15:30, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 10/28/24 3:42 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 28.10.24 15:43, Jesper wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>>> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
>>> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
>>> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
>>> free, but free from ads and malware.
>>
>> Open Source: K-9. I use it on my Pixels for years.
>
> I've used Blue Mail for years on Motorola and Pixel phones. I chose it
> rather than K-9 because at the time I did not want 'push' mail and
> apparently that was K-9's only option.

This is not correct AFAIR. I never used Push on mobiles.

> My computer is my main email source; I only want it on my phone when I
> am (rarely) away from home for any length of time.

+1

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"De gustibus non est disputandum."

On 30.10.24 09:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-10-30 14:32, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 30.10.24 09:23, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>> I need email if I want to go to the cinema.
>>>
>>> If I buy the ticket online, on the computer, they send it to my email.
>>> The easiest way to collect the ticket on my phone is to have email setup
>>> in there. Alternative is to plug the usb cable and transfer the PDF,
>>> when there is one.
>>>
>>> I need email to collect goods from an Amazon locker or point.
>>>
>>> They send an email with a barcode that opens the locker. Sure, I can
>>> print the email at home and use that instead of the phone, but using the
>>> phone is cheaper and just more convenient.
>>>
>>>
>>> It is not about instant notification. As a matter of fact, I disabled
>>> automatic polling in K-9 to conserve battery.
>>
>> I agree that energy consumption of e-mail polling is underestimated and
>> in particular of the push-function.
>>
>> My mail on my phones has a polling frequency of 60 minutes and push
>> turned off deliberately.
>
> On the other hand, the gmail app with default settings and a single
> gmail account doesn't seem to impact battery usage. I noticed the
> problem with K-9, with a non google imap account and default settings.

I did not go into this issue deep enough. I just checked energy
consumption on a per app basis.

--
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

On 10/30/24 1:11 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 10/28/24 3:42 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> > On 28.10.24 15:43, Jesper wrote:
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>> >> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
>> >> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
>> >> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
>> >> free, but free from ads and malware.
>> >
>> > Open Source: K-9. I use it on my Pixels for years.
>>
>> I've used Blue Mail for years on Motorola and Pixel phones. I chose it
>> rather than K-9 because at the time I did not want 'push' mail and
>> apparently that was K-9's only option.
>
> That must have been a long time ago. My K-9 Mail is at least two and a
> half years old - version 6.000 - and I've set the 'Fetching mail' poll
> frequency to Never, for both POP3 and IMAP. Other poll frequencies are
> from Every 15 minutes to Every 24 hours. Never and Every 24 hours aren't
> really 'pushy' are they!> :-)

I only want to get it when I click 'refresh'. The gmail app didn't like
working that way, and neither did K-9 at least 9 years ago. I've had
the Pixel for 3 years and I'm guessing I had the 2 Motorolas and 1 BLU
for 2 years each.

>> My computer is my main email source; I only want it on my phone when I
>> am (rarely) away from home for any length of time.
>
> (As I mentioned before,) Same here.

--
Cheers, Bev
Bluetooth is especially problematic in San Francisco because it
makes it nearly impossible to tell who is hearing voices and who
is just talking on the phone, and in this city their numbers
seem about equal. --Shaun Nichols

On 10/30/24 4:14 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 30.10.24 15:30, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 10/28/24 3:42 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> On 28.10.24 15:43, Jesper wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>>>> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
>>>> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
>>>> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
>>>> free, but free from ads and malware.
>>>
>>> Open Source: K-9. I use it on my Pixels for years.
>>
>> I've used Blue Mail for years on Motorola and Pixel phones. I chose it
>> rather than K-9 because at the time I did not want 'push' mail and
>> apparently that was K-9's only option.
>
> This is not correct AFAIR. I never used Push on mobiles.

Could have been user error -- never finding how to NOT push, the usual
default. I just kept it as I switched phones because I didn't want to
have to configure another app unless there was something wrong with Blue
Mail.

>> My computer is my main email source; I only want it on my phone when I
>> am (rarely) away from home for any length of time.
>
> +1

--
Cheers, Bev
Bluetooth is especially problematic in San Francisco because it
makes it nearly impossible to tell who is hearing voices and who
is just talking on the phone, and in this city their numbers
seem about equal. --Shaun Nichols

On 2024-10-31 04:25, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 10/30/24 1:11 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/28/24 3:42 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> > On 28.10.24 15:43, Jesper wrote:
>>> >> Hi
>>> >> >> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>>> >> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of
>>> the >> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for
>>> a simple >> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not
>>> have to be >> free, but free from ads and malware.
>>> > > Open Source: K-9. I use it on my Pixels for years.
>>>
>>> I've used Blue Mail for years on Motorola and Pixel phones.  I chose
>>> it rather than K-9 because at the time I did not want 'push' mail and
>>> apparently that was K-9's only option.
>>
>>    That must have been a long time ago. My K-9 Mail is at least two and a
>> half years old - version 6.000 - and I've set the 'Fetching mail' poll
>> frequency to Never, for both POP3 and IMAP. Other poll frequencies are
>> from Every 15 minutes to Every 24 hours. Never and Every 24 hours aren't
>> really 'pushy' are they!> :-)
>
> I only want to get it when I click 'refresh'.  The gmail app didn't like
> working that way, and neither did K-9 at least 9 years ago.  I've had
> the Pixel for 3 years and I'm guessing I had the 2 Motorolas and 1 BLU
> for 2 years each.

That's how I have my K-9. Slide down to refresh. Since I started to use
it, which I don't remember when that was.

--
Cheers, Carlos.