Hi

My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
free, but free from ads and malware.

Best regards
--
Jesper

On 28/10/2024 20:43, Jesper wrote:
> Hi
>
> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
> free, but free from ads and malware.

FairEmail is pretty good.

--
Jeff

Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> ha scritto:

> On 28/10/2024 20:43, Jesper wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
>> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
>> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
>> free, but free from ads and malware.
>
> FairEmail is pretty good.
>
Very good but not as simple as k-9.

--
Qihe

Jesper <Vitsky.kasperski@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hi
>
> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
> free, but free from ads and malware.
>
K-9 is easy enough and rocksolid but you should first double check
that everything it's ok with your google account.
If you can't get mail on the standard app, maybe there is
something to fix at your gmail account.
--
Qihe

On 28.10.24 15:43, Jesper wrote:
> Hi
>
> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
> free, but free from ads and malware.

Open Source: K-9. I use it on my Pixels for years.

--
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

Jesper <Vitsky.kasperski@gmail.com> wrote:

> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
> free, but free from ads and malware.

I had MS Outlook on my desktop PC, switched to eM Client (when I decided
to stop paying for MS 365 subscriptionware), but went back to MS Outlook
due to problems with eM Client (half of the reminders on events never
appears, but starting in version 9 versus 8, and earlier, didn't have
the problem).

As a consequence of using MS Outlook on my desktop, and because I also
did not like the Gmail Android app, I went to the MS Outlook app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.outlook

Never seen an ad in Outlook for Android.

Mozilla acquired K-9 for Android, but haven't yet rebranded K-9 as
Thunderbird:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9

I've not used K-9, so can't give a recommendation for or against it. It
is free. Never hear of it having ads.

Mailbird has free and paid versions:

https://www.getmailbird.com/pricing/?utm_location=US

The free version supports only 1 account, so you'd have to pay for the
Standard or Premium versions to support 2, or more, accounts. I have 6
email accounts, so their free versions was not a candidate at the time.
They have both monthly subscription and pay-once plans. Been a while
since I looked at Mailbird, but don't recall seeing any ads.

I had, as mentioned above, used eM Client on my desktop for around 3
years. They have an Android app. It might have the same 3-account
limit for the free version as does the free desktop version, but I'm not
sure of that. Could not find a price on their Android app (maybe they
have only a free Android app).

https://www.emclient.com/
https://www.emclient.com/mobile-features

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

> ... Mailbird has free and paid versions:

Oops, Mailbird doesn't have an Android app, just Windows and Mac.

Qihe wrote:

> Jesper <Vitsky.kasperski@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
>> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
>> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
>> free, but free from ads and malware.
>>
> K-9 is easy enough and rocksolid

seconded

> but you should first double check
> that everything it's ok with your google account.

I don't use it with gmail, but i have used it that way for trsting, I do
use it with my ISP's POP server and MS's exchange365 server as IMAP.

> If you can't get mail on the standard app, maybe there is
> something to fix at your gmail account.

Andy Burns wrote on Tue, 29 Oct 2024 00:09:00 +0000 :

>> K-9 is easy enough and rocksolid
>
> seconded
>
>> but you should first double check
>> that everything it's ok with your google account.
>
> I don't use it with gmail, but i have used it that way for trsting, I do
> use it with my ISP's POP server and MS's exchange365 server as IMAP.
>
>> If you can't get mail on the standard app, maybe there is
>> something to fix at your gmail account.

Bear in mind that the Google "GMail" app on Android can't be used if you
set up your phone WITHOUT a Google mothership tracking account on the
phone.

You can have as many Google Accounts as you like (I have tons of them, for
example) but I'm talking about the one account set up in the phone (my
phone has none).

The first time you use the GMail app on Android, the moment you log into
that Google Account with the Gmail app, the app UNILATERALLY (without
asking you!) *creates* a Google Account on your Android phone.

Worse, it uploads your contacts, again, WITHOUT ASKING YOU first.
You can turn that off subsequently, but they ALREADY HAVE THEM by then.

What's the point?

If you care about privacy, you can NOT use the Google GMail app to access
your Google Account email.

I use FairEmail, as I gave up on K9 before Mozilla took them over.

*FairEmail*, privacy aware email by Marcel Bokhorst, FairCode BV, FOSS
Free, ad free, gsf free, 4.6 star, 24.3K reviews, 500K+ Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email>
<https://email.faircode.eu/>
<https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases>
<https://f-droid.org/en/packages/eu.faircode.email/>

Thank you very much to you all that replied here. You are great!

I will try K-9 first. There is a remark in one of the replies that it is
simple. Suits me fine. But it's 4 o'clock in the morning here in Norway,
so testing K-9 must wait.

Best regards
--
Jesper

On 28/10/2024 20:43, Jesper wrote:
> Hi
>
> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
> free, but free from ads and malware.
>
> Best regards

I've been using Edison email for years.
Sometimes just shows up in lists as 'Email'
Good and reliable. Copes well with spam and also lists things like
Travel arrangements, bills and receipts and packages ordered and despatched.
Rates high with users.

--
Jim the Geordie

Andrews <andrews@spam.net> ha scritto:
> ... Gmail app, the app UNILATERALLY (without
> asking you!) *creates* a Google Account on your Android phone.
>
> Worse, it uploads your contacts, again, WITHOUT ASKING YOU first.
> You can turn that off subsequently, but they ALREADY HAVE THEM by then.
>
Thank you for writing it so loud and clear. Google (& others)
actually manages my own contacts as their loot.
This help hiding contacts from other apps (more or less):
https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Contacts

> I use FairEmail, as I gave up on K9 before Mozilla took them over.
>
Why? I wished Mozilla could add a Usenet newsreader on k-9. I like
Thunderbird for this.

> *FairEmail*
>
It is far more configurable than any other mail client and this is
great but not easier than k-9 for lot of people.

--
Qihe

On 29.10.2024 04:09, Jesper wrote:
> Thank you very much to you all that replied here. You are great!
>
> I will try K-9 first. There is a remark in one of the replies that it is
> simple. Suits me fine. But it's 4 o'clock in the morning here in Norway,
> so testing K-9 must wait.
>
> Best regards
Now i have K-9 installed and have two accounts, one of which is the
troublesome one, installed, tested and working fine.
Gmail is still by the Gmail-ap.

Again thank you very much for good and kind help to you all :-)

Best regards
--
Jesper

Qihe wrote on Tue, 29 Oct 2024 11:54:03 +0100 (GMT+01:00) :

>> ... Gmail app, the app UNILATERALLY (without
>> asking you!) *creates* a Google Account on your Android phone.
>>
>> Worse, it uploads your contacts, again, WITHOUT ASKING YOU first.
>> You can turn that off subsequently, but they ALREADY HAVE THEM by then.
>>
>
> Thank you for writing it so loud and clear. Google (& others)
> actually manages my own contacts as their loot.

Given the most valuable thing about you is your location, and the second
most valuable thing about you are all your friends & family (contacts),
every app that has no need for your contacts wants to upload them anyway.

I consider it rude of me to upload someone else's contact information.

> This help hiding contacts from other apps (more or less):

I gave up on private contacts and now I don't use contacts so my contacts
sqlite database is empty - actually - it was empty.

Now my contacts sqlite database is just filled with fake contacts.
https://f-droid.org/packages/me.billdietrich.fake_contacts/
This way I'll instantly know when a program is sucking in the sqlite db.

<https://github.com/BillDietrich/fake_contacts>
<https://f-droid.org/packages/me.billdietrich.fake_contacts/>
<https://archive.org/details/github.com-BillDietrich-fake_contacts_-_2021-01-31_19-04-27>
<https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/me.billdietrich.fake_contacts?repo=main>

I have many threads on private contacts, where I've tested these apps.
These are the apps I'm testing out for contacts privacy.

OpenContacts
A different database for contacts to keep them private only to you.
<https://f-droid.org/en/packages/opencontacts.open.com.opencontacts/>

True Contacts
"True contacts are good for Local Sync and all apps that create contacts accounts"
<http://www.psencik.cz/true-contacts>
<http://www.psencik.cz/file-cabinet/true-contacts-6.apk>
The Google Play Store repository copy is deprecated by the developer
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cz.psencik.com.android.contacts>

Private Contacts by 2Gusoft
"Improve the privacy of your contacts by defining which should be shared
with other apps and which should remain private (secret)."
5K+ Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.abwesend.privatecontacts>

Private Contacts by Blueline Studio
50+ Downloads
"Private Contacts isolates contacts from applications on your phone"
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ml.bluelinestudio.privatecontact>
Private Contacts - Private Call & SMS on Windows Pc
Private Contacts is a fantastic privacy protection app designed to
hide your private contacts, messages and call logs on your phone.
<https://apkpure.com/private-contacts-private-call-sms/hazar.studio.privatecontacts>
<https://appsonwindows.com/apk/2426789/>
<https://download.appsonwindows.com/download/hazar.studio.privatecontacts-v1.2.9-appsonwindows.com.apk>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.abwesend.privatecontacts>

Favorite Contacts
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.android.widgetapp.easymodecontactswidget>

Contacts Storage
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.providers.contacts>

Contacts
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.app.contacts>

Contacts
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodwy.contacts>

Contacts (extended simple mobile tools)
<https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.ritscher.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro/>

Contacts (simple mobile tools)
<https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro/>
<https://bytehamster.gitlab.io/fdroid-website/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro/>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.contacts.pro>

> https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Contacts

Below are the links so only one person has to look them up,
and then everyone else can just click on the results for that app.
<https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Contacts>
<https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Contacts/releases/tag/1.1.0>
<https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Contacts/releases/download/1.1.0/contacts-3-foss-release.apk>
Name: 20241029_github-contacts-3-foss-release.apk
Size: 7905323 bytes (7720 KiB)
SHA256: B19D5DA0705C3C0B93A7783E715FE1FB7C01E2D1ACA221E46AD19E22B2FEB43E

Also:
<https://www.fossify.org/>
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.fossify.contacts>
<https://f-droid.org/packages/org.fossify.contacts/>
<https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/apk/org.fossify.contacts>

>> I use FairEmail, as I gave up on K9 before Mozilla took them over.
>>
> Why?

Because FairEmail is built around privacy from a person whom I trust, and
whom I've worked with to help get his OAuth2 working when Google screwed us
for about 3 months when Google required 2FA/MFV until Google finally
relented 3 months later and allows smaller developers to use OAuth2.

> I wished Mozilla could add a Usenet newsreader on k-9.

Yup. There is no good Android Usenet newsreader, that's for sure.

> I like Thunderbird for this.

To each his/her own as I hate Thunderbird's newsreader, which treats Usenet
as if it's email without realizing Usenet is fundamentally different stuff.

>
>> *FairEmail*
>>
> It is far more configurable than any other mail client and this is
> great but not easier than k-9 for lot of people.

I used K-9 for years until I switched to FairEmail but to each his/her own.

Jesper <Vitsky.kasperski@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
> free, but free from ads and malware.

I'm only a light e-mail user on my smartphone (mostly use my laptop)
and use it mainly for checking e-mail while traveling.

That said, I use:

BlueMail
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.bluemail.mail>

and

K-9 Mail
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9>

BlueMail is my main app and K-9 Mail is used as a backup.

On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 21:43:44 +0100, Jesper wrote:

> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
> free, but free from ads and malware.

Another happy K-9 Mail user here. They're transforming it to Thunderbird
for Android though. There's a beta available:

<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.thunderbird.android.beta>

--
s|b

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

> BlueMail

_BlueMail as startup program on Windows desktop_

Before I try it on my Android phone, I wanted to test it on my Windows
desktop PC where it is a UWP (Universal Windows Platform App), not a
Win32 program (https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pmhzvm588p4). I've
used other e-mail UWP apps on Windows, but found they had no startup
option; i.e., have it load on Windows startup, and after login into a
Windows account. For example, eM Client's UWP app (not their Win32
program) won't load on startup. I had to remember to load it. I did
figure out a way to use its AppID in a command line to add to the
Startup folder, but that was a pain and undocumented versus the app's
own config settings having an auto-startup option.

For BlueMail's desktop app, I found:

https://bluemail.me/help/disable-autostart/
**On Desktop:** Go to Settings | Global Settings | Advanced Features |
Launch app on system startup

I can't find that BlueMail for Android runs a service or as a sticky app
that has it load when I start my Android phone.

While I typically leave my phone powered up 24x7 (and often on the
charger), the phone has occasionally powered off, because the battery
got too low, or I needed to restart the phone to diagnose an issue.
When Android boots, is BlueMail going to load automatically?

_BlueMail using EWS to access *free* MS account_

Microsoft yanked EWS (Exchange Web Services) access to free MS accounts
(Hotmail, Outlook.com, Live.com). They required an MS 365 subscription
to get Exchange access (and you used an Exchange-capable client), or you
had to use an MS client (Outlook on desktop or Android) to get EWS
access to a free MS account. eM Client used to have EWS support for MS
accounts, but got nailed when Microsoft yanked away EWS from free MS
accounts, so they had to change to IMAP for e-mail, and ActiveSync for
calendar and contacts.

While BlueMail says they support Exchange/EWS, do they still work with
free MS accounts? MS clients still work with EWS on free MS accounts,
so somehow their server knows you are using an MS client to gain EWS
access. I doubt the MS server will see BlueMail as an MS client.

Microsoft announced they will discontinue EWS altogether sometime late
2025, so clients using that access protocol will fail, or must be
switched to using IMAP. They really want the money for an MS 365
subscription.

_BlueMail using Google Mail API_

For Gmail accounts, and when using Gmail clients, they use Google's Mail
API (Google's answer to Microsoft's Exchange). Claiming support of
Gmail doesn't say if BlueMail is using the Mail API, or just plain old
POP or IMAP that any other e-mail client can use.

"It supports all major email protocols, including IMAP, SMTP, Exchange
ActiveSync, EWS, and POP3" really does not say it support Google's Mail
API (which requires a Google Project whose default quota is okay for
personal use, but not for a client left running all day long issuing
thousands of request commands by thousands of users, and upping the
project's API quota costs money -- except, of course, to Google for its
mail apps).

IMAP PUSH is nice for quicker retrieval of new e-mails, but their Mail
API is faster, and works on e-mail, calendar, and contacts instead of a
frankenjob of IMAP, iCal, and iCard.

On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 15:12:42 -0600, Charlie wrote:

> Does the latest K-9 beta use OAuth2

K-9 Mail added OAuth2 support back in 2022, over 2 years ago.
<https://www.ghacks.net/2022/07/08/k-9-mail-future-thunderbird-for-android-adds-oauth-2-0-support/>

How to STFW:
* DDG: <https://duckduckgo.com/?q=K-9+mail+oauth2>
* Google: <https://www.google.com/search?q=K-9+mail+oauth2>
* Bing: <https://www.bing.com/search?q=K-9+mail+oauth2>

--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
🦊️

Some seeking to hide a scape with a cough, render themselves doubly ridiculous.

On 29/10/2024 15:12, s|b wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 21:43:44 +0100, Jesper wrote:
>
>> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
>> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
>> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
>> free, but free from ads and malware.
>
> Another happy K-9 Mail user here. They're transforming it to Thunderbird
> for Android though. There's a beta available:
>
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.thunderbird.android.beta>
>
And it's working fine for me - so far :)

--
Jim the Geordie

Charlie, 2024-10-29 22:12:

> W Tue, 29 Oct 2024 16:12:40 +0100, s|b napisal:
>
>>> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>>> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
>>> mails anre coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
>>> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
>>> free, but free from ads and malware.
>>
>> Another happy K-9 Mail user here.
>
> Does the latest K-9 beta use OAuth2 or is it still stuck on 2FV/MSV?

K-9 does now support OAuth2 even in the regular version. This is one of
the outcomes of the cooperation with Mozilla to provide K-9 also branded
as "Thunderbird for Android".

--
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> > BlueMail
>
> _BlueMail as startup program on Windows desktop_
[...]
> I can't find that BlueMail for Android runs a service or as a sticky app
> that has it load when I start my Android phone.
>
> While I typically leave my phone powered up 24x7 (and often on the
> charger), the phone has occasionally powered off, because the battery
> got too low, or I needed to restart the phone to diagnose an issue.
> When Android boots, is BlueMail going to load automatically?

I don't know. As I wrote, for me e-mail on my phone is only for
occasional use, checking for e-mail. I don't need/want instant
notification.

That said, I think it can give instant/quick notification, i.e. "load
automatically", because in 'Account settings' under Notifications, you
can select 'Push Options' 'Direct Push' and 'Period Fetch' and their
'Notifications Tips' (under three dots in upper right) doesn't say
anything about the need to manually start BlueMail first.

[...]

On 30.10.24 05:24, Jim the Geordie wrote:
> On 29/10/2024 15:12, s|b wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Oct 2024 21:43:44 +0100, Jesper wrote:
>>
>>> My 2 newest android phones both use a standard Gmail-ap that is
>>> unreliable getting mail from one of my accounts. Less than half of the
>>> mails are coming in. So I would like to get recomandations for a simple
>>> ap without ads, that can handle 3-4 accounts. It does not have to be
>>> free, but free from ads and malware.
>>
>> Another happy K-9 Mail user here. They're transforming it to Thunderbird
>> for Android though. There's a beta available:
>>
>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.thunderbird.android.beta>
>>
> And it's working fine for me - so far :)

It is 99% K-9.

--
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

On 2024-10-30 11:47, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> BlueMail
>>
>> _BlueMail as startup program on Windows desktop_
> [...]
>> I can't find that BlueMail for Android runs a service or as a sticky app
>> that has it load when I start my Android phone.
>>
>> While I typically leave my phone powered up 24x7 (and often on the
>> charger), the phone has occasionally powered off, because the battery
>> got too low, or I needed to restart the phone to diagnose an issue.
>> When Android boots, is BlueMail going to load automatically?
>
> I don't know. As I wrote, for me e-mail on my phone is only for
> occasional use, checking for e-mail. I don't need/want instant
> notification.

I need email if I want to go to the cinema.

If I buy the ticket online, on the computer, they send it to my email.
The easiest way to collect the ticket on my phone is to have email setup
in there. Alternative is to plug the usb cable and transfer the PDF,
when there is one.

I need email to collect goods from an Amazon locker or point.

They send an email with a barcode that opens the locker. Sure, I can
print the email at home and use that instead of the phone, but using the
phone is cheaper and just more convenient.

It is not about instant notification. As a matter of fact, I disabled
automatic polling in K-9 to conserve battery.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 30.10.24 09:23, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
> I need email if I want to go to the cinema.
>
> If I buy the ticket online, on the computer, they send it to my email.
> The easiest way to collect the ticket on my phone is to have email setup
> in there. Alternative is to plug the usb cable and transfer the PDF,
> when there is one.
>
> I need email to collect goods from an Amazon locker or point.
>
> They send an email with a barcode that opens the locker. Sure, I can
> print the email at home and use that instead of the phone, but using the
> phone is cheaper and just more convenient.
>
>
> It is not about instant notification. As a matter of fact, I disabled
> automatic polling in K-9 to conserve battery.

I agree that energy consumption of e-mail polling is underestimated and
in particular of the push-function.

My mail on my phones has a polling frequency of 60 minutes and push
turned off deliberately.

--
"De gustibus non est disputandum."

On 2024-10-30 14:32, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 30.10.24 09:23, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>> I need email if I want to go to the cinema.
>>
>> If I buy the ticket online, on the computer, they send it to my email.
>> The easiest way to collect the ticket on my phone is to have email setup
>> in there. Alternative is to plug the usb cable and transfer the PDF,
>> when there is one.
>>
>> I need email to collect goods from an Amazon locker or point.
>>
>> They send an email with a barcode that opens the locker. Sure, I can
>> print the email at home and use that instead of the phone, but using the
>> phone is cheaper and just more convenient.
>>
>>
>> It is not about instant notification. As a matter of fact, I disabled
>> automatic polling in K-9 to conserve battery.
>
> I agree that energy consumption of e-mail polling is underestimated and
> in particular of the push-function.
>
> My mail on my phones has a polling frequency of 60 minutes and push
> turned off deliberately.

On the other hand, the gmail app with default settings and a single
gmail account doesn't seem to impact battery usage. I noticed the
problem with K-9, with a non google imap account and default settings.

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Cheers, Carlos.