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Subject: Wide area experimental UUCP network
From: 04dco
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:32 UTC

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Subject: Wide area experimental UUCP network
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 16:32:34 -0000 (UTC)
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Has anyone ever done a recreation of an old wide area UUCP network over
dial-up (VoIP or otherwise)? In my experience a VoIP call using the
G.711a codec at 64 Kbps uncompressed can establish a 28.8 Kbps PPP link
(V.34) of questionable reliability, mostly because of jitter and latency
being caused by the connection between the endpoints. This was attempted
with a winmodem on one end and a hard modem on the other but pure
software solutions do exist, see https://github.com/AonCyberLabs/D-Modem

In addition to a classic SIP call, there exists an ITU-T standard for
Modem over IP (V.150.1) tough I don't know any free software
implementations of it. As an idea of how it might work, there is
commercial software available: https://vocal.com/voip/v-150-1-gateway/

In essence, something like https://wiki.dn42.us/Home but UUCP instead of
TCP/IP+BGP.

Subject: Re: Wide area experimental UUCP network
From: immibis
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2024 09:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: Wide area experimental UUCP network
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On 22/09/24 18:32, 04dco wrote:
> Has anyone ever done a recreation of an old wide area UUCP network over
> dial-up (VoIP or otherwise)? In my experience a VoIP call using the
> G.711a codec at 64 Kbps uncompressed can establish a 28.8 Kbps PPP link
> (V.34) of questionable reliability, mostly because of jitter and latency
> being caused by the connection between the endpoints. This was attempted
> with a winmodem on one end and a hard modem on the other but pure
> software solutions do exist, see https://github.com/AonCyberLabs/D-Modem
>
> In addition to a classic SIP call, there exists an ITU-T standard for
> Modem over IP (V.150.1) tough I don't know any free software
> implementations of it. As an idea of how it might work, there is
> commercial software available: https://vocal.com/voip/v-150-1-gateway/
>
> In essence, something like https://wiki.dn42.us/Home but UUCP instead of
> TCP/IP+BGP.

Via user LaF0rge on Libera #retronetworking:

https://www.rhizomatica.org/hermes/ is using UUCP over short wave radio
to connect indigenous/rural communities in the amazon
https://github.com/Rhizomatica/hermes-net is the integration. Not sure
if you call short-wave radio as "wide area network". I would think it is

Subject: Re: Wide area experimental UUCP network
From: yeti
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 13:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: Wide area experimental UUCP network
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comp / comp.mail.uucp / Re: Wide area experimental UUCP network

Subject	Author
Wide area experimental UUCP network	04dco
Re: Wide area experimental UUCP network	immibis
Re: Wide area experimental UUCP network	yeti