Rocksolid Light

News from da outaworlds

mail  files  register  groups  login

Message-ID:  

You will overcome the attacks of jealous associates.


comp / comp.lang.python / PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.

SubjectAuthor
* PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.711 Spooky Mart
+- Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.Schimon Jehudah
+* Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.Fritz Wuehler
|`- Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.Anonymous
`- Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.Andy Burns

1
Subject: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
From: 711 Spooky Mart
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python, comp.os.linux.misc, alt.privacy.anon-server
Organization: To protect and to server
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:40 UTC
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!tor-network!not-for-mail
From: 711@spooky.mart (711 Spooky Mart)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python, comp.os.linux.misc, alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:40:10 -0000
Organization: To protect and to server
Message-ID: <vbbcmg$1aepf$1@paganini.bofh.team>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Injection-Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:39:44 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="1391407"; posting-host="eAYuifLa6j0sRpp1Yyytng.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A";
X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3
X-TOR-Router: sha256:MmEwYjpmNGMyOjM6Ojg1 --
View all headers

<copy+paste> from [chan] bitmessage

PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.

I think Peter and gang just got tired of responding to this recurring
claim. I wouldn't even expect a rebuttal from them at this point.

Newer forks have been under development, one in Python3 and one in Rust.

Here is the PyBitmessage fork in Python3:

https://github.com/kashikoibumi/PyBitmessage

Somebody should help the maintainer. I am no longer a Pythonista or I
would. I dumped Python after the 2.7 sunset as I expect they will
likely break Py3 equally bad some day. I will be occasionally reviewing
Koibumi's bash scripts, build scripts and documentation looking for
errors or points of improvement.

─────┏━━━━┓──┏━━┓───┏━━┓────── Spooky Mart Channel
─────┗━━┓─┃──┗┓─┃───┗┓─┃────── [chan] 711
────────┃─┃──┏┛─┗┓──┏┛─┗┓───── always open | stay spooky
────────┗━┛──┗━━━┛──┗━━━┛───── https://bitmessage.org

Subject: Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
From: Schimon Jehudah
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 08:10 UTC
References: 1 2
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From: sch@fedora.email (Schimon Jehudah)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 11:10:31 +0300
Lines: 52
Message-ID: <mailman.40.1725610247.2917.python-list@python.org>
References: <vbbcmg$1aepf$1@paganini.bofh.team>
<20240906111031.459736cb@workstation.localdomain>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de gyA4D/hDoPS7GbqZsrcHLAVmABzgs7+dA5GAwVf3CtBQ==
Cancel-Lock: sha1:o5/VWO6vgKwUq5Sq5oel41GBQVQ= sha256:s1SP6/Y7N6w19+204fV8c3/4HfhvzgTcWZf6ThnaR4E=
Return-Path: <sch@fedora.email>
X-Original-To: python-list@python.org
Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org
Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass
reason="1024-bit key; unprotected key"
header.d=fedora.email header.i=@fedora.email header.b=I6hX3XR2;
dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral
X-Spam-Status: OK 0.047
X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.01; 'url-ip:140.82/16': 0.03;
'received:205': 0.07; '2.7': 0.09; 'fork': 0.09; 'occasionally':
0.09; 'received:email': 0.09; 'recurring': 0.09; 'subject:not':
0.09; 'url:github': 0.14; 'url-ip:140/8': 0.15; '2024': 0.16;
'bash': 0.16; 'bot.': 0.16; 'development,': 0.16; 'equally': 0.16;
'gang': 0.16; 'irc': 0.16; 'python3': 0.16; 'url:sch': 0.16;
'wrote:': 0.16; 'python': 0.16; 'thu,': 0.19; 'to:addr:python-
list': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.25; 'expect': 0.28; 'think': 0.32;
'python-list': 0.32; 'sep': 0.32; "wouldn't": 0.32; 'header:In-
Reply-To:1': 0.34; 'errors': 0.36; 'currently': 0.37; 'adding':
0.39; 'break': 0.39; 'should': 0.40; 'likely': 0.61; 'stay': 0.61;
'point.': 0.62; 'here': 0.62; 'channel': 0.65; 'news': 0.65;
'bad': 0.67; 'day.': 0.68; 'url:net': 0.68; 'interested': 0.68;
'responding': 0.69; 'ignore': 0.71; 'longer': 0.71; 'subject:. ':
0.73; '8bit%:100': 0.76; 'received:94': 0.76;
'received:localdomain': 0.81; 'points': 0.84; 'dead.': 0.84;
'greetings!': 0.84; 'improvement.': 0.84; 'somebody': 0.91;
'sunset': 0.91
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fedora.email;
q=dns/txt; s=aug2020; bh=HW9Qz2DnWYVciPVKCTKc5JURryiu8og5V7msiiAPemE=;
h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references;
b=I6hX3XR2rU+L9FV0x44WkFV9KuIH7QfB3b11cqB+VXSwzQ5xj0yevBTADaz7a3Zj5RMJwVN3a
JbdSI/u8irWWNakcBmrLQKvF/dhIOxBH4Qi7ovLDg3JtL/UNiYUPpRyvd/PxemVPEyI4KcF5WZa
spzgjSK/arCqaH8eVzs2xt0=
X-Zone-Loop: 6132d919f339a27d7ea53524f333f6d7f5710a2642cb
X-Originating-IP: [94.16.116.81]
In-Reply-To: <vbbcmg$1aepf$1@paganini.bofh.team>
X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.43; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language
<python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>,
<mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <20240906111031.459736cb@workstation.localdomain>
X-Mailman-Original-References: <vbbcmg$1aepf$1@paganini.bofh.team>
View all headers

Greetings!

I am interested in adding support for Bitmessage to Slixfeed news bot.

Support is currently provided to XMPP and it will be extended to Email,
IRC and Session.

https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Slixfeed

Schimon

On Thu, 5 Sep 2024 04:40:10 -0000
711 Spooky Mart via Python-list <python-list@python.org> wrote:

> <copy+paste> from [chan] bitmessage
>
> PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
>
> I think Peter and gang just got tired of responding to this recurring
> claim. I wouldn't even expect a rebuttal from them at this point.
>
> Newer forks have been under development, one in Python3 and one in
> Rust.
>
> Here is the PyBitmessage fork in Python3:
>
> https://github.com/kashikoibumi/PyBitmessage
>
> Somebody should help the maintainer. I am no longer a Pythonista or I
> would. I dumped Python after the 2.7 sunset as I expect they will
> likely break Py3 equally bad some day. I will be occasionally
> reviewing Koibumi's bash scripts, build scripts and documentation
> looking for errors or points of improvement.
>
> ─────┏━━━━┓──┏━━┓───┏━━┓────── Spooky Mart Channel
> ─────┗━━┓─┃──┗┓─┃───┗┓─┃────── [chan] 711
> ────────┃─┃──┏┛─┗┓──┏┛─┗┓───── always open | stay spooky
> ────────┗━┛──┗━━━┛──┗━━━┛───── https://bitmessage.org
>

Subject: Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
From: Fritz Wuehler
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.lang.python, comp.os.linux.misc
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 22:28 UTC
References: 1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
From: fritz@spamexpire-202409.rodent.frell.theremailer.net (Fritz Wuehler)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:28:22 +0200
Subject: Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
Mime-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <20240912.002822.f3631b8a@remailer.frell.eu.org>
References: <vbbcmg$1aepf$1@paganini.bofh.team>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.lang.python,comp.os.linux.misc
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
View all headers

Governments and cops are all pathological liars. There is a very good
chance that they are continuously trying to discourage people from
using Bitmessage because of its resilience to breaking. This can be
somewhat proven because of their saying then it is dead, when it is not.

When the old tor program that allowed you to use more than 3 nodes to
send a message was around, there were continuously messages saying that
it was not as secure as just using 3 nodes. That is not logical.

Subject: Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
From: Anonymous
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.lang.python, comp.os.linux.misc
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:15 UTC
References: 1 2
From: nobody@remailer.paranoici.org (Anonymous)
References: <vbbcmg$1aepf$1@paganini.bofh.team>
<20240912.002822.f3631b8a@remailer.frell.eu.org>
Subject: Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID: <fc415a7546630ac813b07f4253d88308@remailer.paranoici.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:15:32 +0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.lang.python,comp.os.linux.misc
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!alphared!sewer!news.dizum.net!not-for-mail
Organization: dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider
X-Abuse: abuse@dizum.com
Injection-Info: sewer.dizum.com - 2001::1/128
View all headers

Fritz Wuehler wrote:

>Governments and cops are all pathological liars. There is a very good
>chance that they are continuously trying to discourage people from
>using Bitmessage because of its resilience to breaking. This can be
>somewhat proven because of their saying then it is dead, when it is not.
>
>When the old tor program that allowed you to use more than 3 nodes to
>send a message was around, there were continuously messages saying that
>it was not as secure as just using 3 nodes. That is not logical.

The Tor binary compiled for OmniMix supports circuits of up to 9 nodes.
You just have to add a RouteLength parameter to your torrc file.
<https://danner-net.de/om.htm>

Subject: Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
From: Andy Burns
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python, comp.os.linux.misc, alt.privacy.anon-server
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 14:18 UTC
References: 1
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: usenet@andyburns.uk (Andy Burns)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.privacy.anon-server
Subject: Re: PyBitmessage is not dead. Ignore the FUD.
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 15:18:08 +0100
Lines: 6
Message-ID: <lkgbh2F5jlbU1@mid.individual.net>
References: <vbbcmg$1aepf$1@paganini.bofh.team>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: individual.net xNQdRQvCUDFHC9nbnkOlQQGv7TutI7NPOvszjMg4GH2pn8wSWY
Cancel-Lock: sha1:pyu1EPrZJW7Wbs4PdRqQA8a6xHw= sha256:9XjxmGCN0m9U2J5YJBOZFWb2/OvowvKo3kK6/SZt+sI=
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Content-Language: en-GB
In-Reply-To: <vbbcmg$1aepf$1@paganini.bofh.team>
View all headers

711 Spooky Mart wrote:

> PyBitmessage is not dead.
> https://bitmessage.org
It may help with looking "not dead" to have a changelog that has
actually changed within the last 8 years?

1

rocksolid light 0.9.8
clearnet tor