On 10/2/2024 11:06 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:03:13 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/1/2024 4:18 PM, Ed P wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 2:02 PM, Yak wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>>>> all our
>>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>>
>>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Red herring.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>>
>>>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>>
>>>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>>
>>>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.
>>
>> They tell the story that needs to be told.
>
> No actually, they don't.

Yeah, it actually does.

>>> Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
>>> less?
>>
>> False premise.
>
> It's not a premise, it's a question. Did you get past third grade?

Sure is. The false premise being that a widow living on $800 a month is
paying more so the top 1% can pay less.

>>> Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
>>> higher wages so they can pay more taxes?
>>
>> Maybe, maybe not. Wages should be a voluntary agreement between
>> employers and employees.
>
> It's good that you expect collective bargaining.

Yeah...and?

>>> Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
>>> This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
>>> $107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
>>> the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.
>>
>> Irrelevant. They're called *income taxes* not wealth taxes. Start a new
>> thread if you care to discuss that.
>
> I guess it didn't occur to you that increasing wealth would be due to INCOME.

I guess it didn't occur to you that it's not always true. Consider your
401k. Your wealth is increasing due to rising stock valuations, not income.

>>> How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
>>> around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
>>> by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
>>> times the federal minimum wage
>>
>> See above.
>
> See what?

Above. Can't you read?

>That the nobility should be tax exempt? That was one of the economic
> conditions that led to the French Revolution.
>

On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 08:17:03 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

>I guess it didn't occur to you that it's not always true. Consider your
>401k. Your wealth is increasing due to rising stock valuations,

Which is tax deferred income.

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25) Trump recognized Israel's occupation of the Golan
Heights, which is considered illegal under international law.

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:vdhvk8$2tpsd$4@dont-email.me...
> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
> us
>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
> all
>>>> our
>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>
>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>
>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>
>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>
>>> Red herring.
>>
>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>
>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>
>>
>
> Let's look at a 50% flat tax:
> - the poor might not even have enough to eat, much less a roof over
> their head
> - the middle class would have at best an austere lifestyle, eat and
> house, nothing else
> - the well-off would be inconvenienced but have a normal life
> - the billionaires would not even notice except on spreadsheet numbers.

Baxter I hate to be the bearer of bad news.. well no, I'm not.. but did you
realize that the average person now pays 50-60% of their gross income in
direct and indirect taxes?

Look at the kids complaining they can't afford a house.

To put that in comparison in the 60's the average person paid a mere 18% of
their gross income in direct and indirect taxes.

Now who is to blame for all those taxes?

Maybe the issue is the government spends TOO much, taxes TOO much.. and
really isn't accountable for any of it.

"Yak" <yak@inbox.com> wrote in message news:vdjcng$37i22$1@dont-email.me...
> On 10/1/2024 7:12 PM, Baxter wrote:
>> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after
>> us
>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>> all
>>>>> our
>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>
>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>
>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>
>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Red herring.
>>>
>>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>
>>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>
>>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>
>>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Let's look at a 50% flat tax:
>
> Let's not.
>
>> - the poor might not even have enough to eat, much less a roof over
>> their head
>> - the middle class would have at best an austere lifestyle, eat and
>> house, nothing else
>> - the well-off would be inconvenienced but have a normal life
>> - the billionaires would not even notice except on spreadsheet numbers.
>>

effectively we already have that, for some it might even reduce their
taxes..

I think rather than arguing who is or should be taxed more.. we should be
asked why taxes should be increased?

Maybe the real question should be how much of our money is being used/wasted
by the government and what spending should be limited to.

I think that would do more to resolve issues than arguing over who hasn't
yet been over taxed..

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:pk2sfjdn7656e44kilqeti5a2cjmqeao3o@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 06:29:54 -0400, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing
> <kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote:
>
>>Governor Swill wrote:
>>> Now, answer this: What is the final effective tax rate of the top 1%?
>>
>>The biggest problem we have is the Democrats giving away free stuff in
>>exchange for a vote. Should be illegal, not that the Democrats follow
>>the law.
>
> You mean like free prescription drugs? (Bush)
> Free cell phones? (also Bush)

or the $2 Trillion in giveaways Kamala has been promising people?

https://nypost.com/2024/08/16/us-news/kamala-harris-unveils-economic-plan-including-a-whopping-1-7t-in-handouts-fed-ban-on-grocery-store-price-gouging/

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> in
alt.atheism with message-id <vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me>
wrote:

>On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>> first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all
>>> our
>>> money trickle down from?
>>
>> Giverment, duh.
>>
>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>
>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>
>> Red herring.
>
>Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>
>Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>
>Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>
>We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>

How much is a "fair share" and how is it determined?

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy),
the Green Raw Deal, Income redistribution,
and Social anything.

Let them DIE.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

Facts are the reality whether or not you
want to hear them.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Chuckles Harris and her supporters like
the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:18:38 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> in
alt.atheism with message-id <vdhlet$2s9fk$1@dont-email.me>
wrote:

>On 10/1/2024 2:02 PM, Yak wrote:
>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>> all our
>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>
>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>
>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>
>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>
>>> Red herring.
>>
>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>
>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>
>>
>
>
>Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.
>
>Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
>less?
>
>Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
>higher wages so they can pay more taxes?
>
>Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
>This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
>$107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
>the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.

Start a company, grow it to the size of Amazon, and you too
can have as much as Jeff Bezos.

>
>How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
>around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
>by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
>times the federal minimum wage

Start as many successful companies as he has and you to can
have $143 billion.

>

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy),
the Green Raw Deal, Income redistribution,
and Social anything.

Let them DIE.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

Facts are the reality whether or not you
want to hear them.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Chuckles Harris and her supporters like
the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

Attila wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:18:38 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhlet$2s9fk$1@dont-email.me>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/1/2024 2:02 PM, Yak wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>>> all our
>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>
>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>
>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>
>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Red herring.
>>>
>>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>
>>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>
>>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>
>>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.
>>
>> Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
>> less?
>>
>> Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
>> higher wages so they can pay more taxes?
>>
>> Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
>> This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
>> $107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
>> the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.
>
> Start a company, grow it to the size of Amazon, and you too
> can have as much as Jeff Bezos.
>
>>
>> How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
>> around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
>> by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
>> times the federal minimum wage
>
> Start as many successful companies as he has and you to can
> have $143 billion.
>
>>
>

i dont know why some people have beef with elon, he is among the
top 10 genuinely most important humans on this planet at the moment.

On 10/4/2024 12:12 PM, shogun wrote:
> Attila wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:18:38 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhlet$2s9fk$1@dont-email.me>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/1/2024 2:02 PM, Yak wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>>>> all our
>>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>>
>>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Red herring.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>>
>>>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>>
>>>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>>
>>>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.
>>>
>>> Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
>>> less?
>>>
>>> Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
>>> higher wages so they can pay more taxes?
>>>
>>> Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
>>> This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
>>> $107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
>>> the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.
>>
>> Start a company, grow it to the size of Amazon, and you too
>> can have as much as Jeff Bezos.
>>
>>>
>>> How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
>>> around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
>>> by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
>>> times the federal minimum wage
>>
>> Start as many successful companies as he has and you to can
>> have $143 billion.
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> i dont know why some people have beef with elon, he is among the top 10
> genuinely most important humans on this planet at the moment.
>
>
>

^^_THAT!_^^

That right there is the reason why, toxic unbridled jealousy.

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 18:12:22 +0000, shogun <f00@0f0.00f> in
alt.atheism with message-id
<3616e754-6faa-3340-67bc-1d61b4f5b69d@ashikaga.tokugawa>
wrote:

>
>i dont know why some people have beef with elon, he is among the
>top 10 genuinely most important humans on this planet at the moment.
>
>

Some people have always has a problem with anyone who has
more than they have. It's called envy.

The bigger the difference the greater the envy.

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy),
the Green Raw Deal, Income redistribution,
and Social anything.

Let them DIE.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

Facts are the reality whether or not you
want to hear them.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Chuckles Harris and her supporters like
the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

On 10/4/2024 2:12 PM, shogun wrote:
> Attila wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:18:38 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhlet$2s9fk$1@dont-email.me>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/1/2024 2:02 PM, Yak wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>>>> all our
>>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>>
>>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Red herring.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>>
>>>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>>
>>>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>>
>>>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.
>>>
>>> Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
>>> less?
>>>
>>> Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
>>> higher wages so they can pay more taxes?
>>>
>>> Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
>>> This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
>>> $107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
>>> the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.
>>
>> Start a company, grow it to the size of Amazon, and you too
>> can have as much as Jeff Bezos.
>>
>>>
>>> How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
>>> around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
>>> by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
>>> times the federal minimum wage
>>
>> Start as many successful companies as he has and you to can
>> have $143 billion.
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> i dont know why some people have beef with elon, he is among the top 10
> genuinely most important humans on this planet at the moment.
>
>
>
No doubt he is very successful building some very innovative businesses.

But that does not make him any less weird is some areas of life. He
says a lot of things people take issue with about life, family,
politics. When you do that you are subject to the same comments the
rest of us get. He wants people to have more babies, but really white
ones. He has twelve with three mothers. He can afford it.

On 2024-10-04, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
> On 10/4/2024 2:12 PM, shogun wrote:
>> Attila wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:18:38 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhlet$2s9fk$1@dont-email.me>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/1/2024 2:02 PM, Yak wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>>>>> all our
>>>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Red herring.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>>>
>>>>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.
>>>>
>>>> Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
>>>> less?
>>>>
>>>> Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
>>>> higher wages so they can pay more taxes?
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
>>>> This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
>>>> $107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
>>>> the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.
>>>
>>> Start a company, grow it to the size of Amazon, and you too
>>> can have as much as Jeff Bezos.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
>>>> around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
>>>> by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
>>>> times the federal minimum wage
>>>
>>> Start as many successful companies as he has and you to can
>>> have $143 billion.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> i dont know why some people have beef with elon, he is among the top 10
>> genuinely most important humans on this planet at the moment.
>>
>>
>>
> No doubt he is very successful building some very innovative businesses.
>
> But that does not make him any less weird is some areas of life. He
> says a lot of things people take issue with about life, family,
> politics. When you do that you are subject to the same comments the
> rest of us get. He wants people to have more babies, but really white
> ones. He has twelve with three mothers. He can afford it.

People like Elon who think on a much different plain than normal people, even
super intelligent normal people, tend to be weird.
Not all of them but a good number.
He has done a lot of good for the world and I appreciate that.

--
pothead
Kamala Harris Word Salad Special Of The Day
Served Complete With Venn Diagram Dressing

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 17:21:52 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
>On 10/4/2024 2:12 PM, shogun wrote:
>> Attila wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:18:38 -0400, Ed P wrote:
<snip>
>>>> How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
>>>> around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
>>>> by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
>>>> times the federal minimum wage
>>>
>>> Start as many successful companies as he has and you to can
>>> have $143 billion.
>>>
>> i dont know why some people have beef with elon, he is among the top 10
>> genuinely most important humans on this planet at the moment.
>>
>No doubt he is very successful building some very innovative businesses.
>
>But that does not make him any less weird is some areas of life. He
>says a lot of things people take issue with about life, family,
>politics. When you do that you are subject to the same comments the
>rest of us get. He wants people to have more babies, but really white
>ones. He has twelve with three mothers. He can afford it.

Republicans aren't pro children, they're pro birth.
Once that baby is in utero, they don't care if you have health care.
What do they care about pre natal care?
They don't.
And once that baby's born, they don't want that baby on welfare.
They don't want that baby to have access to health care.
And when that kid's in school, they don't want them to have access to free food.
They don't want there to be government sponsored maternity and paternity leave.
They don't want there to be government sponsored daycare facilities so that we
can have a better daycare program here in the United States.
They don't give a shit what happens to your kids.
They don't give a shit so much that hey will actually not even pass gun
legislation, even though the number one killer of children in this country is
not cancer it's actually guns.
They don't do anything to extend the lives of children.
They don't do anything to make the lives of children better.
They don't care about kids. What they care about is controlling women.
And that's it. That's what they care about. They care about controlling women.
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/16ocFVqQil4>
--

Four more reasons to not vote for Trump in 33 days.

26) Trump broke the law by trying to withhold nearly
$400 million of U.S. aid for Ukraine in an effort to
extort a personal political favor from Ukraine's President Zelensky.
Trump wanted Zelensky to interfere in the 2020 election by announcing
an investigation into the Bidens. Delaying this aid to Ukraine
weakened Ukraine and strengthened Russia.

27) Trump personally attacked and ruined the careers of everyone
who stood in the way of his illegal Ukraine scheme, including
Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman.

28) To cover up the scheme, Trump ordered the White House and
State Department to defy congressional subpoenas.

29) For these reasons, on December 18th, 2019, Trump
became the third U.S. president to be impeached.
He was charged with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:5f40gjpuskk0sgncrffj8ui9575sa6dn67@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> in
> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me>
> wrote:
>
>>On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all
>>>> our
>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>
>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>
>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>
>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>
>>> Red herring.
>>
>>Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>
>>Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>
>>Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>
>>We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>
>
> How much is a "fair share" and how is it determined?

BOOM....

Wonderful question.

On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:58:56 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
with message-id <ve0sfe$1ojth$11@dont-email.me> wrote:

>
>
>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>news:5f40gjpuskk0sgncrffj8ui9575sa6dn67@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> in
>> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all
>>>>> our
>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>
>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>
>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>
>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Red herring.
>>>
>>>Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>
>>>Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>
>>>Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>
>>>We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>
>>
>> How much is a "fair share" and how is it determined?
>
>BOOM....
>
>Wonderful question.
>
>
Don't expect an actual answer.

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy),
the Green Raw Deal, Income redistribution,
and Social anything.

Let them DIE.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

Facts are the reality whether or not you
want to hear them.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Chuckles Harris and her supporters like
the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
news:v258gjpmf4ddrjc6cib589g34enutm2o50@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:58:56 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
> with message-id <ve0sfe$1ojth$11@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>>news:5f40gjpuskk0sgncrffj8ui9575sa6dn67@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> in
>>> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>>
>>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> Red herring.
>>>>
>>>>Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>>
>>>>Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>>
>>>>Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>>
>>>>We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How much is a "fair share" and how is it determined?
>>
>>BOOM....
>>
>>Wonderful question.
>>
>>
> Don't expect an actual answer.

Of course not... since he doesn't have one, and never will.

Governor Swill wrote:
> They don't do anything to extend the lives of children.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> deferred income.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> How are they paying less

How are you not in jail?

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

Governor Swill wrote:
> free prescription drugs?

Free to make death threats?

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Swill

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From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> nobility should be tax exempt?

Why are you prosecution exempt?

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 08:33:08 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
with message-id <ve3ebo$278tk$12@dont-email.me> wrote:

>
>
>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>news:v258gjpmf4ddrjc6cib589g34enutm2o50@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:58:56 -0500, "Scout"
>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
>> with message-id <ve0sfe$1ojth$11@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>>>news:5f40gjpuskk0sgncrffj8ui9575sa6dn67@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> in
>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Red herring.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>>>
>>>>>Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>>>
>>>>>Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>>>
>>>>>We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How much is a "fair share" and how is it determined?
>>>
>>>BOOM....
>>>
>>>Wonderful question.
>>>
>>>
>> Don't expect an actual answer.
>
>Of course not... since he doesn't have one, and never will.
>

No one seems to be able to answer that question.

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy),
the Green Raw Deal, Income redistribution,
and Social anything.

Let them DIE.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

Facts are the reality whether or not you
want to hear them.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Chuckles Harris and her supporters like
the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

On Tue, 08 Oct 2024 15:32:29 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 08:33:08 -0500, "Scout"
><me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
>with message-id <ve3ebo$278tk$12@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>>news:v258gjpmf4ddrjc6cib589g34enutm2o50@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:58:56 -0500, "Scout"
>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
>>> with message-id <ve0sfe$1ojth$11@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>>>>news:5f40gjpuskk0sgncrffj8ui9575sa6dn67@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> in
>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Red herring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How much is a "fair share" and how is it determined?
>>>>
>>>>BOOM....
>>>>
>>>>Wonderful question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Don't expect an actual answer.
>>
>>Of course not... since he doesn't have one, and never will.
>>
>
>No one seems to be able to answer that question.

If you're shitting on a gold toilet seat, $750 is probably not your fair share.

--
Although Trump is not among Project 2025'- 34 authors, more than half are appointees
and staff from his time as president; the words "Trump" and "Trump
Administration" appear 300 times in its pages. At least 140 former Trump
officials are involved in Project 2025, according to a CNN tally. It’s
reasonable to expect that a second Trump presidency would follow many of
the project’s recommendations.

Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 28 days.

36) When none of the previous schemes worked, Trump and
his allies produced fake electoral votes cast by fake electors
in multiple swing states.

37) Trump tried to bully Vice President Pence into obstructing
the certification of the election.
"If Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election."

On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 03:34:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
<ve4tkq$fgco$56@dont-email.me> wrote:

>Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
>news:p42bgj165q03bqj32mmbipfq3rs2p9phhl@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 08:33:08 -0500, "Scout"
>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
>> with message-id <ve3ebo$278tk$12@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>>>news:v258gjpmf4ddrjc6cib589g34enutm2o50@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:58:56 -0500, "Scout"
>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
>>>> with message-id <ve0sfe$1ojth$11@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>>>>>news:5f40gjpuskk0sgncrffj8ui9575sa6dn67@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> in
>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes
>>>>>>>>>> you are.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes
>>>>>>>>>> after us
>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else
>>>>>>>>> will all
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect
>>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Red herring.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90%
>>>>>>>combined.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much is a "fair share" and how is it determined?
>>>>>
>>>>>BOOM....
>>>>>
>>>>>Wonderful question.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Don't expect an actual answer.
>>>
>>>Of course not... since he doesn't have one, and never will.
>>>
>>
>> No one seems to be able to answer that question.
>>
>
>You and I go to dinner. I get a 7-course meal, you get a cracker and an
>olive. I bet you could figure out what your fair share was in an
>instance.

Who pay the bill?

--

Build a Wall.
Deport them all.

Go WOKE. Go Broke.

Stop DEI (Dumbass Egotistical Idiocy),
the Green Raw Deal, Income redistribution,
and Social anything.

Let them DIE.

Did the last sane person leaving California
remember to turn out the lights? The Rotten
Apple?

Facts are the reality whether or not you
want to hear them.

The most dangerous enemies the United States has:

Chuckles Harris and her supporters like
the Sluts and Pimps including
Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Ayanna Pressley, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal Bowman,
Cori Bush, Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler,
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Cory Booker. They
have stepped over the line and are working against
the country and what it stands for.

On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 03:14:18 -0400, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:

>On Wed, 9 Oct 2024 03:34:51 -0000 (UTC), Baxter
><bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
><ve4tkq$fgco$56@dont-email.me> wrote:
>
>>Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote in
>>news:p42bgj165q03bqj32mmbipfq3rs2p9phhl@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 08:33:08 -0500, "Scout"
>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
>>> with message-id <ve3ebo$278tk$12@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>>>>news:v258gjpmf4ddrjc6cib589g34enutm2o50@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:58:56 -0500, "Scout"
>>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> in alt.atheism
>>>>> with message-id <ve0sfe$1ojth$11@dont-email.me> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Attila" <prochoice@here.now> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:5f40gjpuskk0sgncrffj8ui9575sa6dn67@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> in
>>>>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes
>>>>>>>>>>> you are.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes
>>>>>>>>>>> after us
>>>>>>>>>> first.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else
>>>>>>>>>> will all
>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect
>>>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Red herring.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90%
>>>>>>>>combined.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How much is a "fair share" and how is it determined?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BOOM....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wonderful question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Don't expect an actual answer.
>>>>
>>>>Of course not... since he doesn't have one, and never will.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No one seems to be able to answer that question.
>>>
>>
>>You and I go to dinner. I get a 7-course meal, you get a cracker and an
>>olive. I bet you could figure out what your fair share was in an
>>instance.
>
>Who pay the bill?

You pay two thirds of it plus the tip.

--
Although Trump is not among Project 2025'- 34 authors, more than half are appointees
and staff from his time as president; the words "Trump" and "Trump
Administration" appear 300 times in its pages. At least 140 former Trump
officials are involved in Project 2025, according to a CNN tally. It’s
reasonable to expect that a second Trump presidency would follow many of
the project’s recommendations.

Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 28 days.

38) Trump invited a mob to the Capitol on January 6th
with his "Be there, will be wild!" tweet.

39) Sworn testimony alleges that when Trump was warned
that members of the crowd were carrying deadly weapons,
he ordered security metal detectors to be taken down.