On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>
>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>
>> All business owners pay taxes. We have to or the IRS comes after us
> first.
>>
>
> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all our
> money trickle down from?

Giverment, duh.

That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?

> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.

Red herring.

On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>
>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>
>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>> first.
>>>
>>
>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all
>> our
>> money trickle down from?
>
> Giverment, duh.
>
> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>
>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>
> Red herring.

Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.

Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.

Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.

We know who's really not paying their fair share.

Yak wrote:
> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>> first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>> all our
>>> money trickle down from?
>>
>> Giverment, duh.
>>
>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>
>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>
>> Red herring.
>
> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>
> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>
> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>
> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>
>

Well this is all true and all ignored by the left!

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On 10/1/2024 2:02 PM, Yak wrote:
> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>> first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>> all our
>>> money trickle down from?
>>
>> Giverment, duh.
>>
>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>
>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>
>> Red herring.
>
> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>
> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>
> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>
> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>
>

Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.

Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
less?

Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
higher wages so they can pay more taxes?

Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
$107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.

How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
times the federal minimum wage

Yak wrote this post; take it under advisement:

> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>> first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all
>>> our
>>> money trickle down from?
>>
>> Giverment, duh.
>>
>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>
>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>
>> Red herring.
>
> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>
> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>
> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.

Show us a link to a legimate source.

> We know who's really not paying their fair share.

:-D

Pull my finger dude.

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Where will it all end? Probably somewhere near where it all began.

Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me:

> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after
us
>>> first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
all
>>> our
>>> money trickle down from?
>>
>> Giverment, duh.
>>
>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>
>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>
>> Red herring.
>
> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>
> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>
> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>
> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>
>

Let's look at a 50% flat tax:
- the poor might not even have enough to eat, much less a roof over
their head
- the middle class would have at best an austere lifestyle, eat and
house, nothing else
- the well-off would be inconvenienced but have a normal life
- the billionaires would not even notice except on spreadsheet numbers.

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

>On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>
>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>
>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>> first.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all
>>> our
>>> money trickle down from?
>>
>> Giverment, duh.
>>
>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>
>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>
>> Red herring.
>
>Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>
>Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>
>Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>
>We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>

And we should take your word for it ... why?

Now, answer this: What is the final effective tax rate of the top 1%?

--

Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 35 days.

23) Trump sparked international outrage by moving the
American Embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv while
closing the U.S.' Palestine office.

24) Trump tasked his son-in-law, Jared Kushner,
with drafting a potential Middle East peace plan
with zero Palestinian input.

Governor Swill wrote:
> Now, answer this: What is the final effective tax rate of the top 1%?

The biggest problem we have is the Democrats giving away free stuff in
exchange for a vote. Should be illegal, not that the Democrats follow
the law.

On 10/1/2024 7:12 PM, Baxter wrote:
> Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote in news:vdhdg2$2r3or$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after
> us
>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
> all
>>>> our
>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>
>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>
>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>
>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>
>>> Red herring.
>>
>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>
>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>
>>
>
> Let's look at a 50% flat tax:

Let's not.

> - the poor might not even have enough to eat, much less a roof over
> their head
> - the middle class would have at best an austere lifestyle, eat and
> house, nothing else
> - the well-off would be inconvenienced but have a normal life
> - the billionaires would not even notice except on spreadsheet numbers.
>

On 10/1/2024 5:32 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Yak wrote this post; take it under advisement:
>
>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all
>>>> our
>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>
>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>
>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>
>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>
>>> Red herring.
>>
>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>
> Show us a link to a legimate source.

https://tinyurl.com/mr277pad

>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>
> :-D
>
> Pull my finger dude.

Pull your own finger.

On 10/1/2024 4:18 PM, Ed P wrote:
> On 10/1/2024 2:02 PM, Yak wrote:
>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>> all our
>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>
>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>
>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>
>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>
>>> Red herring.
>>
>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>
>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>
>>
>
>
> Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.

They tell the story that needs to be told.

> Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
> less?

False premise.

> Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
> higher wages so they can pay more taxes?

Maybe, maybe not. Wages should be a voluntary agreement between
employers and employees.

> Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
> This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
> $107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
> the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.

Irrelevant. They're called *income taxes* not wealth taxes. Start a new
thread if you care to discuss that.

> How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
> around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
> by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
> times the federal minimum wage

See above.

>

On 10/2/2024 3:18 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>
>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>
>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>> first.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all
>>>> our
>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>
>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>
>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>
>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>
>>> Red herring.
>>
>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>
>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>
>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>
>
> And we should take your word for it ... why?

Wait, you don't believe the numbers from your lords and masters at the IRS?

> Now, answer this: What is the final effective tax rate of the top 1%?

26%. (3.3% for the bottom 50%).

On 10/2/24 6:29 AM, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing wrote:
> Governor Swill wrote:
>> Now, answer this:  What is the final effective tax rate of the top 1%?
>
> The biggest problem we have is the Democrats giving away free stuff in
> exchange for a vote. Should be illegal, not that the Democrats follow
> the law.

Whereas the GOP are selling tax breaks to their richest constituents,
who then buy advertising to keep the GOP in office.

Where's the difference?

-hh

On 10/2/2024 6:29 AM, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing wrote:
> Governor Swill wrote:
>> Now, answer this:  What is the final effective tax rate of the top 1%?
>
> The biggest problem we have is the Democrats giving away free stuff in
> exchange for a vote. Should be illegal, not that the Democrats follow
> the law.

Yes, like Trump made an offer to the oil execs for votes and tax relief
for the wealthy for votes. It should be illegal!

Yak wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 10/1/2024 5:32 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>> Pull my finger dude.
>
> Pull your own finger.

Nah, you're doing a fine job of pulling off Trump.

--
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Nah, you're doing a fine job

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/kami and a few dozen
other socks wrote:

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> Now, answer this:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Pull my finger dude.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond and a few dozen other
socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Ed P wrote:
> On 10/2/2024 6:29 AM, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing wrote:
>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>> Now, answer this:  What is the final effective tax rate of the top 1%?
>>
>> The biggest problem we have is the Democrats giving away free stuff in
>> exchange for a vote. Should be illegal, not that the Democrats follow
>> the law.
>
>
> Yes, like Trump made an offer to the oil execs for votes and tax relief
> for the wealthy for votes.  It should be illegal!

Cite the precise terms of that offer.

You can't because you LIE, or just repeat MSM talking points with no
concern for accuracy.

It's who YOU are, fascist leftard.

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Ed P wrote:

> Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.
>
> Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
> less?

The disparity in revenues in question is so extreme that none of that
demographic can impact the truly rich or their "share" in the slightest.

You know this Edie P, you lying leftard trash.

> Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
> higher wages so they can pay more taxes?

Should you or I determine the age scale and benefits for any viable free
market business?

You marxist toadie.

> Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
> This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
> $107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
> the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.

And so?

He built a major supply chain monster!

Try not to act like the jealous old sot you are.

> How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
> around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
> by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
> times the federal minimum wage

And both men are supporting the only viable space program we have now
that Obama killed off NASA, oh well...

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/technology/322918-how-barack-obama-ruined-nasa-space-exploration/

it is useful to look back on how profoundly and adroitly President
Barack Obama crippled the space agency’s efforts to send astronauts
beyond low Earth orbit. When Obama came into office, he did what a
number of other presidents have done to determine their goals for NASA:
he formed a presidential commission to study the space agency and come
up with some recommendations.

The Augustine Commission, so named after its chairman former Lockheed
Martin CEO Norm Augustine, returned with a set of recommendations some
months later. The commission found that the program then in existence,
Project Constellation, was not executable under any reasonable budget.
The program, started by President George W. Bush, had been underfunded
and had faced technical challenges for years. The commissions offered
two alternatives. The first was Moon First, which would have focused
America’s efforts on a return to the moon. The second was Flexible Path,
which would have sent American astronauts to every destination besides
the moon—the asteroids, the moons of Mars, and so on. Both options would
lead to the holy grail of space exploration enthusiasts, a mission to Mars.

The kicker was that both options would cost an extra $3 billion a year
for NASA to execute. For the Obama administration, which was not shy
about spending money in areas that it cared about, this price tag was
too dear to bear.

The government’s response was formulated in secret. The results of these
private deliberations were rolled out in the 2011 budget request that
was released in February 2010. Project Constellation would be canceled,
root and branch. Instead, NASA would conduct studies of heavy-lift
rockets, deep-space propulsion, and other technologies that it was said,
in the fullness of time, would make exploring space cheaper and easier.

Congress, which had not been consulted, reacted with bipartisan fury.
The Obama administration made two critical errors. It had not consulted
with Congress or anyone else when it developed its plans to kill
Constellation. The White House also blatantly pulled a bureaucratic
dodge that was apparent even to a first-term member of the House from
the sticks. To kill a popular program, one studies it to death. Nowhere
in the Obama plan was there a commitment to send astronauts anywhere.
Clearly, the White House had no intention of doing space exploration.
President Obama had expressed an antipathy to American exceptionalism,
and nothing speaks to that quality than American astronauts exploring
other worlds.

When Neil Armstrong, the first man on the moon, Gene Cernan, the last
man on the Moon, and Jim Lovell, the hero of Apollo 13, sent an open
letter condemning the cancellation of Constellation, President Obama
knew he had a problem on his hands. So, with Apollo astronaut Buzz
Aldrin in tow as a political prop, Obama went down to the Kennedy Space
Center to make his big space announcement. We would go to Mars, sometime
in the next 30 years and visit an Earth-approaching asteroid before
that. We would not go back to the moon because we had already been there.

--
⛨ 🥐🥖🗼🤪

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> you're doing a fine job of pulling

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Governor Swill wrote:
> And we should take your word for it ... why?

THIS v v v v

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks
wrote their usual multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Swill

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From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:03:13 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

>On 10/1/2024 4:18 PM, Ed P wrote:
>> On 10/1/2024 2:02 PM, Yak wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will
>>>>> all our
>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>
>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>
>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>
>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Red herring.
>>>
>>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>
>>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>
>>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>
>>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting numbers but they don't tell the whole story.
>
>They tell the story that needs to be told.

No actually, they don't.

>> Should a widow living on $800 a month SS pay more so the top 1% can pay
>> less?
>
>False premise.

It's not a premise, it's a question. Did you get past third grade?

>> Should the top 1% give more of their corporate profits to workers in
>> higher wages so they can pay more taxes?
>
>Maybe, maybe not. Wages should be a voluntary agreement between
>employers and employees.

It's good that you expect collective bargaining.

>> Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, earns around $7.99 million per hour.
>> This is based on his net worth increasing by $70 billion in 2023, from
>> $107 billion to $177 billion. Bezos's wealth growth is largely due to
>> the value of Amazon stock, which he owns around 9% of.
>
>Irrelevant. They're called *income taxes* not wealth taxes. Start a new
>thread if you care to discuss that.

I guess it didn't occur to you that increasing wealth would be due to INCOME.

>> How Much Does Elon Musk Make an Hour. The quick answer—Elon Musk makes
>> around $1.6 million per hour. This is based on his net worth that rose
>> by $143.9 billion in the past decade until early 2023. That's 220,690
>> times the federal minimum wage
>
>See above.

See what? That the nobility should be tax exempt? That was one of the economic
conditions that led to the French Revolution.

--

Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 35 days.

23) Trump sparked international outrage by moving the
American Embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv while
closing the U.S.' Palestine office.

24) Trump tasked his son-in-law, Jared Kushner,
with drafting a potential Middle East peace plan
with zero Palestinian input.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 06:29:54 -0400, Kimberly Cheatle Roofing
<kim@roof-wisperer.guv> wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote:
>> Now, answer this: What is the final effective tax rate of the top 1%?
>
>The biggest problem we have is the Democrats giving away free stuff in
>exchange for a vote. Should be illegal, not that the Democrats follow
>the law.

You mean like free prescription drugs? (Bush)
Free cell phones? (also Bush)

--

Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 35 days.

23) Trump sparked international outrage by moving the
American Embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv while
closing the U.S.' Palestine office.

24) Trump tasked his son-in-law, Jared Kushner,
with drafting a potential Middle East peace plan
with zero Palestinian input.

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 08:05:15 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:

>On 10/2/2024 3:18 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 14:02:42 -0400, Yak <yak@inbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/1/2024 1:37 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/2024 11:32 AM, Jimmy wrote:
>>>>>> "Make them pay their fair share!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She's either a stone cold liar or she's stupid and believes you are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All business owners pay taxes.  We have to or the IRS comes after us
>>>>> first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's time to stand up for the billionaires because where else will all
>>>>> our
>>>>> money trickle down from?
>>>>
>>>> Giverment, duh.
>>>>
>>>> That's what you totalitarian fascists want, isn't it it?
>>>>
>>>>> Billionaires need protection, they're too weak to protect themselves.
>>>>
>>>> Red herring.
>>>
>>> Bottom 50% earned 10.4% of income, paid 2.3% of fed income taxes.
>>>
>>> Top 1% earned 26.3% of income, paid 45.8% of fed. income taxes.
>>>
>>> Top 1% of income tax payers paid more than the bottom 90% combined.
>>>
>>> We know who's really not paying their fair share.
>>>
>>
>> And we should take your word for it ... why?
>
>Wait, you don't believe the numbers from your lords and masters at the IRS?
>
>> Now, answer this: What is the final effective tax rate of the top 1%?
>
>26%. (3.3% for the bottom 50%).
>

How are they paying less than the top tax bracket?

--

Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 35 days.

23) Trump sparked international outrage by moving the
American Embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv while
closing the U.S.' Palestine office.

24) Trump tasked his son-in-law, Jared Kushner,
with drafting a potential Middle East peace plan
with zero Palestinian input.