Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest
This article is more than 3 months old

Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even �historically
calamitous chief executives� linked to civil war
Martin Pengelly in Washington
Tue 20 Feb 2024 14.37 GMT
Last modified on Wed 21 Feb 2024 08.06 GMT

Donald Trump finished 45th and rock bottom of a list ranking US presidents
by greatness, trailing even �historically calamitous chief executives� who
failed to stop the civil war or botched its aftermath.
Trump�s trial calendar becomes clearer � as do his delay tactics
Read more

Worse for the likely Republican nominee this year, his probable opponent,
Joe Biden, debuted at No 14.

�Biden�s most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency
from Trump, resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and
is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessor�s hands this fall,�
Justin Vaughn and Brandon Rottinghaus, the political scientists behind the
survey, wrote in the Los Angeles Times.

Rottinghaus, of the University of Houston, and Vaughn, from Coastal
Carolina University, considered responses from 154 scholars, most connected
to the American Political Science Association.

The aim, the authors said, �was to create a ranking of presidential
greatness that covered all presidents from George Washington to Joe Biden�,
in succession to such lists compiled in 2015 and 2018.

�To do this, we asked respondents to rate each president on a scale of 0-
100 for their overall greatness, with 0=failure, 50=average, and 100=great.
We then averaged the ratings for each president and ranked them from
highest average to lowest.�

At the top of the chart, there was little change from previous surveys �
the latter of which also saw Trump, then in office, placed last.

Abraham Lincoln, who won the civil war and ended slavery, was ranked first,
ahead of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who saw the US through the Great
Depression and the second world war. Next came George Washington, the first
president, who won independence from Britain, then Teddy Roosevelt, Thomas
Jefferson and Harry Truman.

Barack Obama, the first Black president, to whom Biden was vice-president
between 2009 and 2017, was seventh, up nine places.

Considering drops for Andrew Jackson (ninth in 2015 to 21st now) and
Woodrow Wilson (10th to 15th), Rottinghaus and Vaughn noted the impact of
campaigns for racial justice.

�Their reputations have consistently suffered in recent years as modern
politics lead scholars to assess their early 19th and 20th century
presidencies ever more harshly, especially their unacceptable treatment of
marginalised people,� the authors wrote.

Jackson owned enslaved people and presided over the genocidal displacement
of Native Americans. Wilson oversaw victory in the first world war and
helped set up the League of Nations, but was an avowed racist who
segregated the federal workforce.

Other major movers included Ulysses S Grant (17th, up from 26th in 2015),
whose administration generated significant corruption but whose attempts to
enforce post-civil war Reconstruction in southern states, including
fighting the Ku Klux Klan, have helped fuel reconsideration.

Grant succeeded Andrew Johnson, Lincoln�s successor and the first president
to be impeached. Like Johnson, Lincoln�s predecessor, James Buchanan, who
failed to stop the slide to civil war, also sits higher than Trump on
Rottinghaus and Vaughn�s list.

Trump is a uniquely divisive figure, his legislative record slim, his
refusal to accept defeat by Biden leading to a deadly attack on Congress,
and his post-presidential career dogged by 91 criminal charges arising from
actions in office or on the campaign trail.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-
biden-list

tunderbar wrote:
> Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest
> This article is more than 3 months old
>
> Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even ‘historically
> calamitous chief executives’ linked to civil war
> Martin Pengelly in Washington
> Tue 20 Feb 2024 14.37 GMT
> Last modified on Wed 21 Feb 2024 08.06 GMT
>
> Donald Trump finished 45th and rock bottom of a list ranking US presidents
> by greatness, trailing even “historically calamitous chief executives” who
> failed to stop the civil war or botched its aftermath.
> Trump’s trial calendar becomes clearer – as do his delay tactics
> Read more
>
> Worse for the likely Republican nominee this year, his probable opponent,
> Joe Biden, debuted at No 14.
>
> “Biden’s most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency
> from Trump, resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and
> is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessor’s hands this fall,”
> Justin Vaughn and Brandon Rottinghaus, the political scientists behind the
> survey, wrote in the Los Angeles Times.
>
> Rottinghaus, of the University of Houston, and Vaughn, from Coastal
> Carolina University, considered responses from 154 scholars, most connected
> to the American Political Science Association.
>
> The aim, the authors said, “was to create a ranking of presidential
> greatness that covered all presidents from George Washington to Joe Biden”,
> in succession to such lists compiled in 2015 and 2018.
>
> “To do this, we asked respondents to rate each president on a scale of 0-
> 100 for their overall greatness, with 0=failure, 50=average, and 100=great.
> We then averaged the ratings for each president and ranked them from
> highest average to lowest.”
>
> At the top of the chart, there was little change from previous surveys –
> the latter of which also saw Trump, then in office, placed last.
>
> Abraham Lincoln, who won the civil war and ended slavery, was ranked first,
> ahead of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who saw the US through the Great
> Depression and the second world war. Next came George Washington, the first
> president, who won independence from Britain, then Teddy Roosevelt, Thomas
> Jefferson and Harry Truman.
>
> Barack Obama, the first Black president, to whom Biden was vice-president
> between 2009 and 2017, was seventh, up nine places.
>
> Considering drops for Andrew Jackson (ninth in 2015 to 21st now) and
> Woodrow Wilson (10th to 15th), Rottinghaus and Vaughn noted the impact of
> campaigns for racial justice.
>
> “Their reputations have consistently suffered in recent years as modern
> politics lead scholars to assess their early 19th and 20th century
> presidencies ever more harshly, especially their unacceptable treatment of
> marginalised people,” the authors wrote.
>
> Jackson owned enslaved people and presided over the genocidal displacement
> of Native Americans. Wilson oversaw victory in the first world war and
> helped set up the League of Nations, but was an avowed racist who
> segregated the federal workforce.
>
> Other major movers included Ulysses S Grant (17th, up from 26th in 2015),
> whose administration generated significant corruption but whose attempts to
> enforce post-civil war Reconstruction in southern states, including
> fighting the Ku Klux Klan, have helped fuel reconsideration.
>
> Grant succeeded Andrew Johnson, Lincoln’s successor and the first president
> to be impeached. Like Johnson, Lincoln’s predecessor, James Buchanan, who
> failed to stop the slide to civil war, also sits higher than Trump on
> Rottinghaus and Vaughn’s list.
>
> Trump is a uniquely divisive figure, his legislative record slim, his
> refusal to accept defeat by Biden leading to a deadly attack on Congress,
> and his post-presidential career dogged by 91 criminal charges arising from
> actions in office or on the campaign trail.
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-
> biden-list
>
this newsgroup is not about donald trump , you are off topic

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 16:26:26 -0000 (UTC), tunderbar
<tdcomeau@gmail.com> wrote:

>Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest
>This article is more than 3 months old
>
>Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even ‘historically
>calamitous chief executives’ linked to civil war
>Martin Pengelly in Washington
>Tue 20 Feb 2024 14.37 GMT
>Last modified on Wed 21 Feb 2024 08.06 GMT
>
>Donald Trump finished 45th and rock bottom of a list ranking US presidents
>by greatness, trailing even “historically calamitous chief executives” who
>failed to stop the civil war or botched its aftermath.
>Trump’s trial calendar becomes clearer – as do his delay tactics
>Read more
>
>Worse for the likely Republican nominee this year, his probable opponent,
>Joe Biden, debuted at No 14.
>
>“Biden’s most important achievements may be that he rescued the presidency
>from Trump, resumed a more traditional style of presidential leadership and
>is gearing up to keep the office out of his predecessor’s hands this fall,”
>Justin Vaughn and Brandon Rottinghaus, the political scientists behind the
>survey, wrote in the Los Angeles Times.
>
>Rottinghaus, of the University of Houston, and Vaughn, from Coastal
>Carolina University, considered responses from 154 scholars, most connected
>to the American Political Science Association.
>
>The aim, the authors said, “was to create a ranking of presidential
>greatness that covered all presidents from George Washington to Joe Biden”,
>in succession to such lists compiled in 2015 and 2018.
>
>“To do this, we asked respondents to rate each president on a scale of 0-
>100 for their overall greatness, with 0=failure, 50=average, and 100=great.
>We then averaged the ratings for each president and ranked them from
>highest average to lowest.”
>
>At the top of the chart, there was little change from previous surveys –
>the latter of which also saw Trump, then in office, placed last.
>
>Abraham Lincoln, who won the civil war and ended slavery, was ranked first,
>ahead of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who saw the US through the Great
>Depression and the second world war. Next came George Washington, the first
>president, who won independence from Britain, then Teddy Roosevelt, Thomas
>Jefferson and Harry Truman.
>
>Barack Obama, the first Black president, to whom Biden was vice-president
>between 2009 and 2017, was seventh, up nine places.
>
>Considering drops for Andrew Jackson (ninth in 2015 to 21st now) and
>Woodrow Wilson (10th to 15th), Rottinghaus and Vaughn noted the impact of
>campaigns for racial justice.
>
>“Their reputations have consistently suffered in recent years as modern
>politics lead scholars to assess their early 19th and 20th century
>presidencies ever more harshly, especially their unacceptable treatment of
>marginalised people,” the authors wrote.
>
>Jackson owned enslaved people and presided over the genocidal displacement
>of Native Americans. Wilson oversaw victory in the first world war and
>helped set up the League of Nations, but was an avowed racist who
>segregated the federal workforce.
>
>Other major movers included Ulysses S Grant (17th, up from 26th in 2015),
>whose administration generated significant corruption but whose attempts to
>enforce post-civil war Reconstruction in southern states, including
>fighting the Ku Klux Klan, have helped fuel reconsideration.
>
>Grant succeeded Andrew Johnson, Lincoln’s successor and the first president
>to be impeached. Like Johnson, Lincoln’s predecessor, James Buchanan, who
>failed to stop the slide to civil war, also sits higher than Trump on
>Rottinghaus and Vaughn’s list.
>
>Trump is a uniquely divisive figure, his legislative record slim, his
>refusal to accept defeat by Biden leading to a deadly attack on Congress,
>and his post-presidential career dogged by 91 criminal charges arising from
>actions in office or on the campaign trail.
>
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/20/presidents-ranking-trump-
>biden-list

Time for you to STFU and blow Donald Trump on your way out

Not my post

Swill the troll
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"Your reputation will be damaged as everybody's reputation is damaged who gets involved
with Donald Trump. He's damaged goods, There's no good dealing with him
because you will end up on the bottom of a pyre." - Steve Cohen to John Durham

Durham, Meadows, Cohen, Ellis, Eastman, Bobb, Giuliani, Lindell, Nauta

Let's not add America to this list.

#nevertrump

On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 09:46:44 -0700, Governor Swill wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 16:26:26 -0000 (UTC), tunderbar
> <tdcomeau@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Time For Trump To Drop Out Then Blow His Own Brains Out"

>
>
> Time for you to STFU and blow Donald Trump on your way out

Death threats should be seen as bad politics, not
routine.

President Carter had 25,000 people arrested for
"threatening the president", and Reagan kept the Carter
severity at the beginning but soon became
laissez-faire.