Maximus wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
>> Iranian cleric voices concern as 50,000
>> mosques remain closed out of 75,000,
>> citing declining religious engagement
>> Jun 08, 2023
>
> good!
>
>>
>> According to Maulana Mohammad Doulabi,
>> a prominent Iranian cleric, around 50,000
>> mosques out of the total 75,000 in the
>> country have been closed, reflecting a
>> decline in attendance. The closure of
>> such a significant number of mosques has
>> raised concerns about the waning interest
>> of people in religious activities within
>> Iranian society.
>>
>> Maulana Doulabi, who serves as a liaison
>> between the administration of Ebrahim
>> Raisi and the country's seminaries,
>> expressed his distress over the
>> situation. He emphasized that the
>> decline in religiosity undermines the
>> legitimacy of a government based on
>> religious principles. People's
>> perception of religion plays a crucial
>> role in their decision to either
>> embrace or distance themselves from it.
>> Factors such as the humiliation of
>> individuals in the name of religion,
>> manipulation of religious teachings,
>> and the association of poverty with
>> religious practices were cited as
>> reasons for disillusionment.
>> https://tinyurl.com/3cjnztpt
>>
>>
>
> education dispels religion. religions like Islam are anachronisms in
> modern society

I disagree. Learning about electron hopping and traveling waves don't
bear much change on religious scripture. What you are calling
'education' is deliberate right wing brainwashing. You jump around and
say this scripture in Genesis doesn't match with the Tyrannosaurus Rex
bones you looked at last week. Trying in some way to disprove the Bible
in its entirety. I learn about real analysis and military ranks.

Lane Larson wrote:
> Maximus wrote:
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>>> Iranian cleric voices concern as 50,000
>>> mosques remain closed out of 75,000,
>>> citing declining religious engagement
>>> Jun 08, 2023
>>
>> good!
>>
>>>
>>> According to Maulana Mohammad Doulabi,
>>> a prominent Iranian cleric, around 50,000
>>> mosques out of the total 75,000 in the
>>> country have been closed, reflecting a
>>> decline in attendance. The closure of
>>> such a significant number of mosques has
>>> raised concerns about the waning interest
>>> of people in religious activities within
>>> Iranian society.
>>>
>>> Maulana Doulabi, who serves as a liaison
>>> between the administration of Ebrahim
>>> Raisi and the country's seminaries,
>>> expressed his distress over the
>>> situation. He emphasized that the
>>> decline in religiosity undermines the
>>> legitimacy of a government based on
>>> religious principles. People's
>>> perception of religion plays a crucial
>>> role in their decision to either
>>> embrace or distance themselves from it.
>>> Factors such as the humiliation of
>>> individuals in the name of religion,
>>> manipulation of religious teachings,
>>> and the association of poverty with
>>> religious practices were cited as
>>> reasons for disillusionment.
>>> https://tinyurl.com/3cjnztpt
>>>
>>>
>>
>> education dispels religion. religions like Islam are anachronisms in
>> modern society
>
> I disagree.  Learning about electron hopping and traveling waves don't
> bear much change on religious scripture.  What you are calling
> 'education' is deliberate right wing brainwashing.  You jump around and
> say this scripture in Genesis doesn't match with the Tyrannosaurus Rex
> bones you looked at last week.  Trying in some way to disprove the Bible
> in its entirety.  I learn about real analysis and military ranks.

i road a tank ,
had a generals rank

% wrote:
> Lane Larson wrote:
>> Maximus wrote:
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Iranian cleric voices concern as 50,000
>>>> mosques remain closed out of 75,000,
>>>> citing declining religious engagement
>>>> Jun 08, 2023
>>>
>>> good!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to Maulana Mohammad Doulabi,
>>>> a prominent Iranian cleric, around 50,000
>>>> mosques out of the total 75,000 in the
>>>> country have been closed, reflecting a
>>>> decline in attendance. The closure of
>>>> such a significant number of mosques has
>>>> raised concerns about the waning interest
>>>> of people in religious activities within
>>>> Iranian society.
>>>>
>>>> Maulana Doulabi, who serves as a liaison
>>>> between the administration of Ebrahim
>>>> Raisi and the country's seminaries,
>>>> expressed his distress over the
>>>> situation. He emphasized that the
>>>> decline in religiosity undermines the
>>>> legitimacy of a government based on
>>>> religious principles. People's
>>>> perception of religion plays a crucial
>>>> role in their decision to either
>>>> embrace or distance themselves from it.
>>>> Factors such as the humiliation of
>>>> individuals in the name of religion,
>>>> manipulation of religious teachings,
>>>> and the association of poverty with
>>>> religious practices were cited as
>>>> reasons for disillusionment.
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3cjnztpt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> education dispels religion. religions like Islam are anachronisms in
>>> modern society
>>
>> I disagree.  Learning about electron hopping and traveling waves don't
>> bear much change on religious scripture.  What you are calling
>> 'education' is deliberate right wing brainwashing.  You jump around
>> and say this scripture in Genesis doesn't match with the Tyrannosaurus
>> Rex bones you looked at last week.  Trying in some way to disprove the
>> Bible in its entirety.  I learn about real analysis and military ranks.
>
> i road a tank ,
> had a generals rank

I listened to it over and over and finally determined that you are correct.

Lane Larson wrote:
> % wrote:
>> Lane Larson wrote:
>>> Maximus wrote:
>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Iranian cleric voices concern as 50,000
>>>>> mosques remain closed out of 75,000,
>>>>> citing declining religious engagement
>>>>> Jun 08, 2023
>>>>
>>>> good!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> According to Maulana Mohammad Doulabi,
>>>>> a prominent Iranian cleric, around 50,000
>>>>> mosques out of the total 75,000 in the
>>>>> country have been closed, reflecting a
>>>>> decline in attendance. The closure of
>>>>> such a significant number of mosques has
>>>>> raised concerns about the waning interest
>>>>> of people in religious activities within
>>>>> Iranian society.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maulana Doulabi, who serves as a liaison
>>>>> between the administration of Ebrahim
>>>>> Raisi and the country's seminaries,
>>>>> expressed his distress over the
>>>>> situation. He emphasized that the
>>>>> decline in religiosity undermines the
>>>>> legitimacy of a government based on
>>>>> religious principles. People's
>>>>> perception of religion plays a crucial
>>>>> role in their decision to either
>>>>> embrace or distance themselves from it.
>>>>> Factors such as the humiliation of
>>>>> individuals in the name of religion,
>>>>> manipulation of religious teachings,
>>>>> and the association of poverty with
>>>>> religious practices were cited as
>>>>> reasons for disillusionment.
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3cjnztpt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> education dispels religion. religions like Islam are anachronisms in
>>>> modern society
>>>
>>> I disagree.  Learning about electron hopping and traveling waves
>>> don't bear much change on religious scripture.  What you are calling
>>> 'education' is deliberate right wing brainwashing.  You jump around
>>> and say this scripture in Genesis doesn't match with the
>>> Tyrannosaurus Rex bones you looked at last week.  Trying in some way
>>> to disprove the Bible in its entirety.  I learn about real analysis
>>> and military ranks.
>>
>> i road a tank ,
>> had a generals rank
>
> I listened to it over and over and finally determined that you are correct.

its ok you'll get used to that

On 5/22/24 12:30 PM, Lane Larson wrote:
>Maximus wrote:
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>>> Iranian cleric voices concern as 50,000
>>> mosques remain closed out of 75,000,
>>> citing declining religious engagement
>>> Jun 08, 2023
>>
>> good!
>>
>>>
>>> According to Maulana Mohammad Doulabi,
>>> a prominent Iranian cleric, around 50,000
>>> mosques out of the total 75,000 in the
>>> country have been closed, reflecting a
>>> decline in attendance. The closure of
>>> such a significant number of mosques has
>>> raised concerns about the waning interest
>>> of people in religious activities within
>>> Iranian society.
>>>
>>> Maulana Doulabi, who serves as a liaison
>>> between the administration of Ebrahim
>>> Raisi and the country's seminaries,
>>> expressed his distress over the
>>> situation. He emphasized that the
>>> decline in religiosity undermines the
>>> legitimacy of a government based on
>>> religious principles. People's
>>> perception of religion plays a crucial
>>> role in their decision to either
>>> embrace or distance themselves from it.
>>> Factors such as the humiliation of
>>> individuals in the name of religion,
>>> manipulation of religious teachings,
>>> and the association of poverty with
>>> religious practices were cited as
>>> reasons for disillusionment.
>>> https://tinyurl.com/3cjnztpt
>>>
>>>
>>
>> education dispels religion. religions like Islam are anachronisms in
>> modern society
>
>I disagree. Learning about electron hopping and traveling waves don't
>bear much change on religious scripture. What you are calling
>'education' is deliberate right wing brainwashing. You jump around and
>say this scripture in Genesis doesn't match with the Tyrannosaurus Rex
>bones you looked at last week. Trying in some way to disprove the Bible
>in its entirety. I learn about real analysis and military ranks.

Modern science makes the World seem less magical, which used to be ascribed
to phenomena such as lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, etc.

Dawn

Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/22/24 12:30 PM, Lane Larson wrote:
>> Maximus wrote:
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Iranian cleric voices concern as 50,000
>>>> mosques remain closed out of 75,000,
>>>> citing declining religious engagement
>>>> Jun 08, 2023
>>>
>>> good!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to Maulana Mohammad Doulabi,
>>>> a prominent Iranian cleric, around 50,000
>>>> mosques out of the total 75,000 in the
>>>> country have been closed, reflecting a
>>>> decline in attendance. The closure of
>>>> such a significant number of mosques has
>>>> raised concerns about the waning interest
>>>> of people in religious activities within
>>>> Iranian society.
>>>>
>>>> Maulana Doulabi, who serves as a liaison
>>>> between the administration of Ebrahim
>>>> Raisi and the country's seminaries,
>>>> expressed his distress over the
>>>> situation. He emphasized that the
>>>> decline in religiosity undermines the
>>>> legitimacy of a government based on
>>>> religious principles. People's
>>>> perception of religion plays a crucial
>>>> role in their decision to either
>>>> embrace or distance themselves from it.
>>>> Factors such as the humiliation of
>>>> individuals in the name of religion,
>>>> manipulation of religious teachings,
>>>> and the association of poverty with
>>>> religious practices were cited as
>>>> reasons for disillusionment.
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3cjnztpt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> education dispels religion. religions like Islam are anachronisms in
>>> modern society
>>
>> I disagree.  Learning about electron hopping and traveling waves don't
>> bear much change on religious scripture.  What you are calling
>> 'education' is deliberate right wing brainwashing.  You jump around
>> and say this scripture in Genesis doesn't match with the Tyrannosaurus
>> Rex bones you looked at last week.  Trying in some way to disprove the
>> Bible in its entirety.  I learn about real analysis and military ranks.
>
> Modern science makes the World seem less magical, which used to be ascribed
> to phenomena such as lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, etc.
>
> Dawn

i still watch the aurora and wonder

On 2024-05-22, Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
> Modern science makes the World seem less magical, which used to be ascribed
> to phenomena such as lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, etc.

Modern science helped me to see phenomena as natural, not supernatural. But
Tahiti is still a magical place ... I'm trying to say that rainbows and so on
don't have to lose their magic, in the metaphorical sense of marvelousness or
wondrousness.

Lane Larson wrote:
> Maximus wrote:
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>>> Iranian cleric voices concern as 50,000
>>> mosques remain closed out of 75,000,
>>> citing declining religious engagement
>>> Jun 08, 2023
>>
>> good!
>>
>>>
>>> According to Maulana Mohammad Doulabi,
>>> a prominent Iranian cleric, around 50,000
>>> mosques out of the total 75,000 in the
>>> country have been closed, reflecting a
>>> decline in attendance. The closure of
>>> such a significant number of mosques has
>>> raised concerns about the waning interest
>>> of people in religious activities within
>>> Iranian society.
>>>
>>> Maulana Doulabi, who serves as a liaison
>>> between the administration of Ebrahim
>>> Raisi and the country's seminaries,
>>> expressed his distress over the
>>> situation. He emphasized that the
>>> decline in religiosity undermines the
>>> legitimacy of a government based on
>>> religious principles. People's
>>> perception of religion plays a crucial
>>> role in their decision to either
>>> embrace or distance themselves from it.
>>> Factors such as the humiliation of
>>> individuals in the name of religion,
>>> manipulation of religious teachings,
>>> and the association of poverty with
>>> religious practices were cited as
>>> reasons for disillusionment.
>>> https://tinyurl.com/3cjnztpt
>>>
>>>
>>
>> education dispels religion. religions like Islam are anachronisms in
>> modern society
>
> I disagree.

so women dressed in black from head to toe and beheadings are ok with
you then? you're aware that the goal of Islam is a worldwide caliphate,
I hope? I guess you'll be happy then with your nose to the ground three
times a day, and wiping your bum with your hand.

https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-image-muslim-friday-mass-prayer-image6929371

> Learning about electron hopping and traveling waves don't bear much
> change on religious scripture.  What you are calling 'education' is
> deliberate right wing brainwashing.  You jump around and say this
> scripture in Genesis doesn't match with the Tyrannosaurus Rex bones
> you looked at last week.

a good example of fact and knowledge disproving biblical mythology

> Trying in some way to disprove the Bible in its entirety.

If you're referring to the belief that the bible is the infallible word
of god, any error it contains will prove it's not.

> I learn about real analysis and military ranks.

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

Edward McGuire wrote:
> On 2024-05-22, Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Modern science makes the World seem less magical, which used to be ascribed
>> to phenomena such as lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, etc.
> Modern science helped me to see phenomena as natural, not supernatural. But
> Tahiti is still a magical place ... I'm trying to say that rainbows and so on
> don't have to lose their magic, in the metaphorical sense of marvelousness or
> wondrousness.

the wonder and beauty of nature never loses it's appeal

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

On 5/22/24 10:39 PM, Maximus wrote:
>Edward McGuire wrote:
>> On 2024-05-22, Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Modern science makes the World seem less magical, which used to be ascribed
>>> to phenomena such as lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, etc.
>> Modern science helped me to see phenomena as natural, not supernatural. But
>> Tahiti is still a magical place ... I'm trying to say that rainbows and so on
>> don't have to lose their magic, in the metaphorical sense of marvelousness or
>> wondrousness.
>
>the wonder and beauty of nature never loses it's appeal

Except for tsunamis, tornadoes, and similar wonders.

Dawn Flood wrote:
> On 5/22/24 10:39 PM, Maximus wrote:
>> Edward McGuire wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-22, Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Modern science makes the World seem less magical, which used to be
>>>> ascribed
>>>>   to phenomena such as lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, etc.
>>> Modern science helped me to see phenomena as natural, not
>>> supernatural. But
>>> Tahiti is still a magical place ... I'm trying to say that rainbows
>>> and so on
>>> don't have to lose their magic, in the metaphorical sense of
>>> marvelousness or
>>> wondrousness.
>>
>> the wonder and beauty of nature never loses it's appeal
>
> Except for tsunamis, tornadoes, and similar wonders.

yes, except for those. but they could never be described as beautiful.

--
“Atheism is the birth right of all human, remember that!”- hhyapster 7.4.23

"Christian beliefs fail against reason, facts, and knowledge"

"Religion is not about truth, it's about lifestyle"

"God is a convenient explanation for what man does not understand.
The less that's inexplicable, the less need for a 'God' explanation."

"The problem with theism is that it never remains within
the realm of belief, but invariably proceeds to assertion"

On 5/23/24 3:44 AM, Maximus wrote:
>Dawn Flood wrote:
>> On 5/22/24 10:39 PM, Maximus wrote:
>>> Edward McGuire wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-22, Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Modern science makes the World seem less magical, which used to be
>>>>> ascribed
>>>>>   to phenomena such as lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, etc.
>>>> Modern science helped me to see phenomena as natural, not
>>>> supernatural. But
>>>> Tahiti is still a magical place ... I'm trying to say that rainbows
>>>> and so on
>>>> don't have to lose their magic, in the metaphorical sense of
>>>> marvelousness or
>>>> wondrousness.
>>>
>>> the wonder and beauty of nature never loses it's appeal
>>
>> Except for tsunamis, tornadoes, and similar wonders.
>
>yes, except for those. but they could never be described as beautiful.

Point taken.

On Wed, 22 May 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:

> On 5/22/24 12:30 PM, Lane Larson wrote:
>> Maximus wrote:
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Iranian cleric voices concern as 50,000
>>>> mosques remain closed out of 75,000,
>>>> citing declining religious engagement
>>>> Jun 08, 2023
>>>
>>> good!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to Maulana Mohammad Doulabi,
>>>> a prominent Iranian cleric, around 50,000
>>>> mosques out of the total 75,000 in the
>>>> country have been closed, reflecting a
>>>> decline in attendance. The closure of
>>>> such a significant number of mosques has
>>>> raised concerns about the waning interest
>>>> of people in religious activities within
>>>> Iranian society.
>>>>
>>>> Maulana Doulabi, who serves as a liaison
>>>> between the administration of Ebrahim
>>>> Raisi and the country's seminaries,
>>>> expressed his distress over the
>>>> situation. He emphasized that the
>>>> decline in religiosity undermines the
>>>> legitimacy of a government based on
>>>> religious principles. People's
>>>> perception of religion plays a crucial
>>>> role in their decision to either
>>>> embrace or distance themselves from it.
>>>> Factors such as the humiliation of
>>>> individuals in the name of religion,
>>>> manipulation of religious teachings,
>>>> and the association of poverty with
>>>> religious practices were cited as
>>>> reasons for disillusionment.
>>>> https://tinyurl.com/3cjnztpt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> education dispels religion. religions like Islam are anachronisms in
>>> modern society
>>
>> I disagree. Learning about electron hopping and traveling waves don't bear
>> much change on religious scripture. What you are calling 'education' is
>> deliberate right wing brainwashing. You jump around and say this scripture
>> in Genesis doesn't match with the Tyrannosaurus Rex bones you looked at
>> last week. Trying in some way to disprove the Bible in its entirety. I
>> learn about real analysis and military ranks.
>
> Modern science makes the World seem less magical, which used to be ascribed
> to phenomena such as lightning, earthquakes, rainbows, etc.
>
> Dawn

Well, actually, to me, and purely subjectively, modern science makes the
world _more_ magical, deeper and more rich.

I mean if the reason for a black hole is "god did it" that's just boring.
With science we have deep, complex and beautiful answers.