No wonder I incorporated alt.atheism! At least they are not actively
seeking the glory of God for themselves!

If I was to step in and are worthy to take the punishment for your
stinking vile sinful state, I do not become sin, like you! I am pure,
holy, righteous (God) and have become the sacrifice of righteousness for
your unrighteousness; a Messiah "of" God, "made" to be an atonement for
the deceitfully wicked.

That is the one and only Lord Jesus Christ.

He has always and will forever be God, perfect in Spirit.

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
(in article <v2ea90$3jijm$2@dont-email.me>):

> No wonder I incorporated alt.atheism! At least they are not actively
> seeking the glory of God for themselves!
>
> If I was to step in and are worthy to take the punishment for your
> stinking vile sinful state, I do not become sin, like you! I am pure,
> holy, righteous (God) and have become the sacrifice of righteousness for
> your unrighteousness; a Messiah "of" God, "made" to be an atonement for
> the deceitfully wicked.
>
> That is the one and only Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> He has always and will forever be God, perfect in Spirit.
>
> Michael Christ

—
Michael McLean aka Michael Christ on April 2, 2024
Spoke thusly;
'self is God' for me, thanks.

On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:50:24 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:

> No wonder I incorporated alt.atheism! At least they are not actively
> seeking the glory of God for themselves!
>
> If I was to step in and are worthy to take the punishment for your
> stinking vile sinful state, I do not become sin, like you! I am pure,
> holy, righteous (God) and have become the sacrifice of righteousness for
> your unrighteousness; a Messiah "of" God, "made" to be an atonement for
> the deceitfully wicked.
>
> That is the one and only Lord Jesus Christ.
>
> He has always and will forever be God, perfect in Spirit.
>

There seems to be an error:

When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, what was the prayer
he used -- and to whom was it addressed?

--
-c

On 20/05/2024 12:41 pm, Robert wrote:
> On May 19, 2024, Michael Christ wrote
> (in article <v2ea90$3jijm$2@dont-email.me>):
>
>> No wonder I incorporated alt.atheism! At least they are not actively
>> seeking the glory of God for themselves!
>>
>> If I was to step in and are worthy to take the punishment for your
>> stinking vile sinful state, I do not become sin, like you! I am pure,
>> holy, righteous (God) and have become the sacrifice of righteousness for
>> your unrighteousness; a Messiah "of" God, "made" to be an atonement for
>> the deceitfully wicked.
>>
>> That is the one and only Lord Jesus Christ.
>>
>> He has always and will forever be God, perfect in Spirit.
>>
>> Michael Christ
>
> —
> Michael McLean aka Michael Christ on April 2, 2024
> Spoke thusly;
> 'self is God' for me, thanks.
>

Did you snip my sentence and my context, Robert?

And why?

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

On 20/05/2024 1:53 pm, Creon wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:50:24 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> No wonder I incorporated alt.atheism! At least they are not actively
>> seeking the glory of God for themselves!
>>
>> If I was to step in and are worthy to take the punishment for your
>> stinking vile sinful state, I do not become sin, like you! I am pure,
>> holy, righteous (God) and have become the sacrifice of righteousness for
>> your unrighteousness; a Messiah "of" God, "made" to be an atonement for
>> the deceitfully wicked.
>>
>> That is the one and only Lord Jesus Christ.
>>
>> He has always and will forever be God, perfect in Spirit.
>>

> There seems to be an error:

So, you think the Lord Jesus was a sinner too?

> When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, what was the prayer
> he used -- and to whom was it addressed?

The "Our Father."

People.

Is there a problem?

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:50:24 +1000, Michael Christ
<michaelmclean91210@outlook.com> wrote:

>No wonder I incorporated alt.atheism! At least they are not actively
>seeking the glory of God for themselves!
>
>If I was to step in and are worthy to take the punishment for your
>stinking vile sinful state, I do not become sin, like you! I am pure,
>holy, righteous (God) and have become the sacrifice of righteousness for
>your unrighteousness; a Messiah "of" God, "made" to be an atonement for
>the deceitfully wicked.
>
>That is the one and only Lord Jesus Christ.
>
>He has always and will forever be God, perfect in Spirit.
>
>
>
>
>Michael Christ
>
>--
>God is God in all His Being.
>
>Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
>10:30  I and Father are one.

For Michael's readers,

Good Sunrise,

Well, I hate to rain upon your parade, but according to YOUR line of
reasoning, that John 10:30 makes "Jesus is God", then even JESUS'
DISCIPLES ARE ALSO GOD:

-- New King James
John 17:21 "that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and
I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe
that You sent Me.

Notice "one in us". So instead of claims that God is a Trinity, this
makes God a Multiplicity. You can't have it both ways.

So you need to scratch out John 10:30, and show something else, and I
will deal with that when you do. Otherwise, God is a Multiplicity.

Sincerely, James
What happened
to morality?
go to jw.org
5/20/2024

> If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
>everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
>
>Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>
>Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
>YET sinners, Christ died for us.
>
>Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
>is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
>
>Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
>are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
>
>Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
>hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
>
>"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
>
>"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."
>
>"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
>God. When you find Him you have found the author."
>
>"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
>God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
>sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
>
>"Compromise will condemn you."
>
>"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
>
>"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
>
>"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
>know that?"
>
>"The way of truth is the testimony of life."
>
>"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
>where God intends."
>
>"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
>
>"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
>live, by faith."
>
>"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
>
>"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
>ahead."
>
>"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
>
>"Priority is everything."
>
>"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
>
>"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
>it or to place it where it truly belongs."
>
>"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
>
>"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
>an ignorant straw man."
>
>"Wait, rest, be still, and know."
>
>"No man can wash his own hands!!!"
>
>"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
>and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
>
>The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
>obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"
>
>"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
>
>"Man is not the centre of being."
>
>"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
>
>"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
>
>"Man has no greater idol than his own will."
>
>"Where is God hiding? He isn't."
>
>"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
>
>"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
>willingness to believe."
>
>"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
>and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
>
>"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
>full of hope."
>
>"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
>through it so that a sinner could play God."
>
>"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
>
>"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
>is the love of God."
>
>"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
>pretending he is the meaning of life."
>
>"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
>still according to my power," says the Lord.
>
>What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
>order to explain the existence of existence.
>
>"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
>
>"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
>  What a gift in a fallen world!"
>
>"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
>
>"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
>that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
>the glory of God"
>
>"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
>isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
>road."
>
>"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
>and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
>punished; it is what you are left with."
>
>"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
>birth it in a man."
>
>"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
>self-righteousness."
>
>"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
>
>"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
>The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
>
>"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
>
>"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
>
>"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
>
>"There is no such thing as random!"
>
>"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
>
>"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
>you know nothing."
>
>"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
>
>"No sinner is sinless in any way."
>
>"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
>
>"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
>a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
>
>"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
>
>"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
>
>"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
>exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
>really are."
>
>"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

Creon wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:50:24 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> No wonder I incorporated alt.atheism! At least they are not actively
>> seeking the glory of God for themselves!
>>
>> If I was to step in and are worthy to take the punishment for your
>> stinking vile sinful state, I do not become sin, like you! I am pure,
>> holy, righteous (God) and have become the sacrifice of righteousness for
>> your unrighteousness; a Messiah "of" God, "made" to be an atonement for
>> the deceitfully wicked.
>>
>> That is the one and only Lord Jesus Christ.
>>
>> He has always and will forever be God, perfect in Spirit.
>>
>
> There seems to be an error:
>
> When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, what was the prayer
> he used -- and to whom was it addressed?
>
he used the prayer he used ,
and they aren't addressed to anyone

On Mon, 20 May 2024 15:52:43 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:

> On 20/05/2024 1:53 pm, Creon wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:50:24 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>>
>>> No wonder I incorporated alt.atheism! At least they are not actively
>>> seeking the glory of God for themselves!
>>>
>>> If I was to step in and are worthy to take the punishment for your
>>> stinking vile sinful state, I do not become sin, like you! I am pure,
>>> holy, righteous (God) and have become the sacrifice of righteousness for
>>> your unrighteousness; a Messiah "of" God, "made" to be an atonement for
>>> the deceitfully wicked.
>>>
>>> That is the one and only Lord Jesus Christ.
>>>
>>> He has always and will forever be God, perfect in Spirit.
>>>
>
>
>> There seems to be an error:
>
> So, you think the Lord Jesus was a sinner too?
>
>> When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, what was the prayer
>> he used -- and to whom was it addressed?
>
> The "Our Father."
>
> People.
>
> Is there a problem?

Yes. I'll make it simple for you.

You are claiming to be God.

You are claiming that Jesus was God.

But Jesus was a Jew, and a Rabbi. He taught his disciples to pray
to "Our Father, who art in heaven".

Not to him. To the Father.

Do you see now?

I'll even add a bit more:

The word "Lord" in the Hebrew Bible, as used by Christians as
their "Old Testament", is the Tetragrammaton in the Hebrew.

YHWH. _That's_ who Jesus prayed to, and that's what he taught.

Do you know what happened to the actor playing Jesus in
Mel Gibson's _The Passion of the Christ_?

He was hit by lightning during filming.

How many people do you know who have been hit by
lightning? What are the odds?

Do not piss off YHWH the storm god, or you might get a *ZOT*!

--
-c

On 21/05/2024 6:29 pm, Creon wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2024 15:52:43 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>
>> On 20/05/2024 1:53 pm, Creon wrote:
>>> On Mon, 20 May 2024 11:50:24 +1000, Michael Christ wrote:
>>>
>>>> No wonder I incorporated alt.atheism! At least they are not actively
>>>> seeking the glory of God for themselves!
>>>>
>>>> If I was to step in and are worthy to take the punishment for your
>>>> stinking vile sinful state, I do not become sin, like you! I am pure,
>>>> holy, righteous (God) and have become the sacrifice of righteousness for
>>>> your unrighteousness; a Messiah "of" God, "made" to be an atonement for
>>>> the deceitfully wicked.
>>>>
>>>> That is the one and only Lord Jesus Christ.
>>>>
>>>> He has always and will forever be God, perfect in Spirit.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>> There seems to be an error:
>>
>> So, you think the Lord Jesus was a sinner too?
>>
>>> When Jesus taught the disciples to pray, what was the prayer
>>> he used -- and to whom was it addressed?
>>
>> The "Our Father."
>>
>> People.
>>
>> Is there a problem?
>
> Yes. I'll make it simple for you.
>
> You are claiming to be God.

This is what I say...

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

> You are claiming that Jesus was God.

Jesus is God, not was, is.

> But Jesus was a Jew, and a Rabbi. He taught his disciples to pray
> to "Our Father, who art in heaven".
>
> Not to him. To the Father.
>
> Do you see now?

Nope. You are in the wrong lane.

The Lord Jesus (God) stepped aside from His glory. You'll read that in
your bible here...Ephesians 2:6-8.

So, pre-crucifixion and pre-ascension, it was good advice.

What you don't know, and a lot of sinner Christians don't know, is that
God placed separation in Himself to birth a family but He did not
separate Himself from Himself.

He parted the waters, so to speak, but He is always, all the waters.

> I'll even add a bit more:
>
> The word "Lord" in the Hebrew Bible, as used by Christians as
> their "Old Testament", is the Tetragrammaton in the Hebrew.
>
> YHWH. _That's_ who Jesus prayed to, and that's what he taught.

As above.

> Do you know what happened to the actor playing Jesus in
> Mel Gibson's _The Passion of the Christ_?

> He was hit by lightning during filming.

> How many people do you know who have been hit by
> lightning? What are the odds?

I thought the movie, in general, was reasonably well done overall.

There have been a few zapped, and no doubt there are going to be a few
more. Are they all too zapped on special? Mind you, everything that
happens God knows about, and "The lot is cast into the lap; but the
whole disposing thereof is of the LORD." Now, unless you are anointed of
God I suggest you leave your self-appointed part-time position as
prophet of God.

> Do not piss off YHWH the storm god, or you might get a *ZOT*!

You mean the God of the still small voice?

I fear God no longer, but you ought to fear Him.

Why?

You are in the wrong lane, or, I could say, on the wrong path.

If you want to know what your Creator is really like, you could ask me,
but you don't know Him, so you can't speak in His name or speak in His
truth about the bible.

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

Now, if you don't believe that is true, okay, but if it is true, then
you are fighting against God, so you can't possibly win.

Usually, the sinner religionists kill file me because, in the end, they
get pissed off and have to go argue with someone who they know is wrong
so they can win—well, some of the time, anyway. :-).

Michael Christ

--
God is God in all His Being.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence.

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."