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Subject: Re: The 4th Gospel
From: Mitchell Holman
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Subject: Re: The 4th Gospel
From: dalmationstation@aol.com (Mitchell Holman)
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Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
news:0001HW.2BE334BA002AD11C30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:

> On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> (in article<XnsB165D172F3C34noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.13>):
>
>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> news:0001HW.2BE2BC5B000E9ADB30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > (in article<XnsB16580ACD17F9noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.17>):
>> >
>> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> > > news:0001HW.2BE2AF20000B80FD30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
>> > >
>> > > > On May 1, 2024, Creon wrote
>> > > > (in article <l9eal3Fta0jU2@mid.individual.net>):
>> > > >
>> > > > > On 25 Apr 2024 16:22:19 GMT, Creon wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 08:23:03 -0700, Andrew wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> > > > > > > news:XnsB15F50CAD7170noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.13...
>> > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > <>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Religious people not agreeing? Even fighting?!
>> > > > > > > > > > > > What gives??
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > The true religion will exude love, peace, healing
>> > > > > > > > > > > and happy.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Which "true religion" is that?
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep
>> > > > > > > > > > respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would
>> > > > > > > > > > serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > "Servants, respectfully obey your earthly masters but
>> > > > > > > > > always with an eye to obeying the real master,
>> > > > > > > > > Christ."
>> > > > > > > > > Ephesians 6:5
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Servants don't have masters, they
>> > > > > > > > have employers. These were SLAVES.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Without Jesus you are a slave to sin.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "Jesus said,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone
>> > > > > > > who practices sin is a slave to sin."
>> > > > > > > > John 8:34
>> > > >
>> > > > “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
>> > > > Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.” (Jhn 8:34,
>> > > > KJV)
>> > > >
>> > > > Whether you appreciate the understanding or not, every one of
>> > > > you who is employed is a servant/slave/bondsman. You are
>> > > > working for DA Man.
>> > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Meh, the 4th Gospel is a bit dodgy, too.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Some tortured souls think John 1:1 has to do with the Bible
>> > > > > > itself, and use it to justify their bibidolatry. It's a
>> > > > > > shame they don't know conscience and reason are better
>> > > > > > allies than bad translations.
>> > > >
>> > > > The word teaches that Judaism is all about people who dwell
>> > > > under a contract setup by their forefathers in the wilderness.
>> > >
>> > > That is the fallacy of Biblical "law"
>> > >
>> > > No one can be bound to a contract that
>> > > they did not sign.
>> >
>> > How many times have you been told that they both voted and signed
>> > it. Why are you bound by the laws of the US and the state and city
>> > you live in?
>>
>> The penal code is not a contract.
>>
>> Contracts have to be agreed to by
>> all parties bound by them.
>>
>> Contract (n)
>> an agreement between two or more
>> parties for the doing or not doing
>> of something specified.
>> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract
>
> Then why would you be fined and possible jail time for breaking
> various Laws?

Contract laws are not criminal laws

They are totally separate.

"Civil law involves people against
people and looks to provide a remedy
for individuals so they can enforce
private rights against other individuals.

Criminal law on the other hand, is a set
of regulations both enacted and enforced
by government action. This is primarily
why criminal cases are always the defendant
versus the state which the offence
occurred in. Contract law does not feature
within criminal law."
https://jamesonlaw.com.au/commercial-law/contracts/is-contract-law-civil-
or-criminal/

Subject: Re: The 4th Gospel
From: Robert
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On May 2, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article<XnsB166D15CD3092noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.12>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2BE334BA002AD11C30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > (in article<XnsB165D172F3C34noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.13>):
> >
> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > news:0001HW.2BE2BC5B000E9ADB30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > >
> > > > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article<XnsB16580ACD17F9noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.17>):
> > > >
> > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > news:0001HW.2BE2AF20000B80FD30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 1, 2024, Creon wrote
> > > > > > (in article <l9eal3Fta0jU2@mid.individual.net>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 25 Apr 2024 16:22:19 GMT, Creon wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 08:23:03 -0700, Andrew wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:XnsB15F50CAD7170noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.13...
> > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dawn Flood" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Religious people not agreeing? Even fighting?!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > What gives??
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The true religion will exude love, peace, healing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and happy.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Which "true religion" is that?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep
> > > > > > > > > > > > respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would
> > > > > > > > > > > > serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Servants, respectfully obey your earthly masters but
> > > > > > > > > > > always with an eye to obeying the real master,
> > > > > > > > > > > Christ."
> > > > > > > > > > > Ephesians 6:5
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Servants don't have masters, they
> > > > > > > > > > have employers. These were SLAVES.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Without Jesus you are a slave to sin.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Jesus said,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone
> > > > > > > > > who practices sin is a slave to sin."
> > > > > > > > > > John 8:34
> > > > > >
> > > > > > “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
> > > > > > Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.” (Jhn 8:34,
> > > > > > KJV)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whether you appreciate the understanding or not, every one of
> > > > > > you who is employed is a servant/slave/bondsman. You are
> > > > > > working for DA Man.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Meh, the 4th Gospel is a bit dodgy, too.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Some tortured souls think John 1:1 has to do with the Bible
> > > > > > > > itself, and use it to justify their bibidolatry. It's a
> > > > > > > > shame they don't know conscience and reason are better
> > > > > > > > allies than bad translations.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The word teaches that Judaism is all about people who dwell
> > > > > > under a contract setup by their forefathers in the wilderness.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is the fallacy of Biblical "law"
> > > > >
> > > > > No one can be bound to a contract that
> > > > > they did not sign.
> > > >
> > > > How many times have you been told that they both voted and signed
> > > > it. Why are you bound by the laws of the US and the state and city
> > > > you live in?
> > >
> > > The penal code is not a contract.

What penal code?
You contracted with the state regarding all the vehicular laws when you got
your drivers license.
You contracted with whomever regarding many other things like CC’s, loans
etc.
You also voted for penal codes within your state, etc.

> > >
> > >
> > > Contracts have to be agreed to by
> > > all parties bound by them.
> > >
> > > Contract (n)
> > > an agreement between two or more
> > > parties for the doing or not doing
> > > of something specified.
> > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract
> >
> > Then why would you be fined and possible jail time for breaking
> > various Laws?
>
> Contract laws are not criminal laws

Yet you voted for many of them.

>
>
> They are totally separate.
>
> "Civil law involves people against
> people and looks to provide a remedy
> for individuals so they can enforce
> private rights against other individuals.
>
> Criminal law on the other hand, is a set
> of regulations both enacted and enforced
> by government action. This is primarily
> why criminal cases are always the defendant
> versus the state which the offence
> occurred in. Contract law does not feature
> within criminal law."
> https://jamesonlaw.com.au/commercial-law/contracts/is-contract-law-civil-
> or-criminal/

Why then have you voted to accept of deny them?

Subject: Re: The 4th Gospel
From: Mitchell Holman
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Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
news:0001HW.2BE4BF2E00313795305B7438F@news.eternal-september.org:

> On May 2, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> (in article<XnsB166D15CD3092noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.12>):
>
>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> news:0001HW.2BE334BA002AD11C30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > (in article<XnsB165D172F3C34noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.13>):
>> >
>> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> > > news:0001HW.2BE2BC5B000E9ADB30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
>> > >
>> > > > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > > > (in article<XnsB16580ACD17F9noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.17>):
>> > > >
>> > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> > > > > news:0001HW.2BE2AF20000B80FD30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.o
>> > > > > rg:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On May 1, 2024, Creon wrote
>> > > > > > (in article <l9eal3Fta0jU2@mid.individual.net>):
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On 25 Apr 2024 16:22:19 GMT, Creon wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 08:23:03 -0700, Andrew wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > > news:XnsB15F50CAD7170noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.13...
>> > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Religious people not agreeing? Even
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fighting?! What gives??
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > The true religion will exude love, peace,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > healing and happy.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Which "true religion" is that?
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep
>> > > > > > > > > > > > respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you
>> > > > > > > > > > > > would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > "Servants, respectfully obey your earthly masters
>> > > > > > > > > > > but always with an eye to obeying the real
>> > > > > > > > > > > master, Christ."
>> > > > > > > > > > > Ephesians 6:5
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Servants don't have masters, they
>> > > > > > > > > > have employers. These were SLAVES.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Without Jesus you are a slave to sin.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > "Jesus said,
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone
>> > > > > > > > > who practices sin is a slave to sin."
>> > > > > > > > > > John 8:34
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
>> > > > > > Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.” (Jhn
>> > > > > > 8:34, KJV)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Whether you appreciate the understanding or not, every one
>> > > > > > of you who is employed is a servant/slave/bondsman. You are
>> > > > > > working for DA Man.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Meh, the 4th Gospel is a bit dodgy, too.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Some tortured souls think John 1:1 has to do with the
>> > > > > > > > Bible itself, and use it to justify their bibidolatry.
>> > > > > > > > It's a shame they don't know conscience and reason are
>> > > > > > > > better allies than bad translations.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The word teaches that Judaism is all about people who dwell
>> > > > > > under a contract setup by their forefathers in the
>> > > > > > wilderness.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > That is the fallacy of Biblical "law"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > No one can be bound to a contract that
>> > > > > they did not sign.
>> > > >
>> > > > How many times have you been told that they both voted and
>> > > > signed it. Why are you bound by the laws of the US and the
>> > > > state and city you live in?
>> > >
>> > > The penal code is not a contract.
>
> What penal code?
> You contracted with the state regarding all the vehicular laws when
> you got your drivers license.

Wrong. You were told what the laws
were, you signed no contract with the
state to obey them.

> You contracted with whomever regarding many other things like CC’s,
> loans etc.
> You also voted for penal codes within your state, etc.

Wrong. Penal codes are a product
of the legislature. Even when the voters
pass a referendum on criminal laws they
are not legal until the legislature
codifies them.

Legislatures and governors are not
afraid of undermining � or even
downright repealing � citizen
initiatives that win at the ballot
box.
Jan. 30, 2024
https://www.governing.com/politics/the-increasing-trend-of-lawmakers-
overriding-ballot-initiatives

>> > > Contracts have to be agreed to by
>> > > all parties bound by them.
>> > >
>> > > Contract (n)
>> > > an agreement between two or more
>> > > parties for the doing or not doing
>> > > of something specified.
>> > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract
>> >
>> > Then why would you be fined and possible jail time for breaking
>> > various Laws?
>>
>> Contract laws are not criminal laws
>
> Yet you voted for many of them.

A vote is not a contract.

>
>>
>>
>> They are totally separate.
>>
>> "Civil law involves people against
>> people and looks to provide a remedy
>> for individuals so they can enforce
>> private rights against other individuals.
>>
>> Criminal law on the other hand, is a set
>> of regulations both enacted and enforced
>> by government action. This is primarily
>> why criminal cases are always the defendant
>> versus the state which the offence
>> occurred in. Contract law does not feature
>> within criminal law."
>> https://jamesonlaw.com.au/commercial-law/contracts/is-contract-law-civ
>> il- or-criminal/
>
> Why then have you voted to accept of deny them?

A vote is not a contract.

A vote is not a criminal law.

Do you remember anything from high school civics?

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On May 3, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
(in article<XnsB167D21391399noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.13>):

> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> news:0001HW.2BE4BF2E00313795305B7438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > On May 2, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > (in article<XnsB166D15CD3092noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.12>):
> >
> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > news:0001HW.2BE334BA002AD11C30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > >
> > > > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > (in article<XnsB165D172F3C34noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.13>):
> > > >
> > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > news:0001HW.2BE2BC5B000E9ADB30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> > > > > > (in article<XnsB16580ACD17F9noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.17>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
> > > > > > > news:0001HW.2BE2AF20000B80FD30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.o
> > > > > > > rg:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On May 1, 2024, Creon wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article <l9eal3Fta0jU2@mid.individual.net>):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 25 Apr 2024 16:22:19 GMT, Creon wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 08:23:03 -0700, Andrew wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:XnsB15F50CAD7170noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.13...
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dawn Flood" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Religious people not agreeing? Even
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fighting?! What gives??
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The true religion will exude love, peace,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing and happy.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which "true religion" is that?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Servants, respectfully obey your earthly masters
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but always with an eye to obeying the real
> > > > > > > > > > > > > master, Christ."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ephesians 6:5
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Servants don't have masters, they
> > > > > > > > > > > > have employers. These were SLAVES.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Without Jesus you are a slave to sin.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Jesus said,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone
> > > > > > > > > > > who practices sin is a slave to sin."
> > > > > > > > > > > > John 8:34
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you,
> > > > > > > > Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.†(Jhn
> > > > > > > > 8:34, KJV)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Whether you appreciate the understanding or not, every one
> > > > > > > > of you who is employed is a servant/slave/bondsman. You are
> > > > > > > > working for DA Man.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Meh, the 4th Gospel is a bit dodgy, too.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Some tortured souls think John 1:1 has to do with the
> > > > > > > > > > Bible itself, and use it to justify their bibidolatry.
> > > > > > > > > > It's a shame they don't know conscience and reason are
> > > > > > > > > > better allies than bad translations.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The word teaches that Judaism is all about people who dwell
> > > > > > > > under a contract setup by their forefathers in the
> > > > > > > > wilderness.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is the fallacy of Biblical "law"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No one can be bound to a contract that
> > > > > > > they did not sign.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How many times have you been told that they both voted and
> > > > > > signed it. Why are you bound by the laws of the US and the
> > > > > > state and city you live in?
> > > > >
> > > > > The penal code is not a contract.
> >
> > What penal code?
> > You contracted with the state regarding all the vehicular laws when
> > you got your drivers license.
>
> Wrong. You were told what the laws
> were, you signed no contract with the
> state to obey them.

Your submittal to the DMC for a DL included that understanding, and for the
proof of it you took a test to verify your knowledge of the rudimentary laws.

No run along Troll.
>
>
> > You contracted with whomever regarding many other things like CC’s,
> > loans etc.
> > You also voted for penal codes within your state, etc.
>
> Wrong. Penal codes are a product
> of the legislature. Even when the voters
> pass a referendum on criminal laws they
> are not legal until the legislature
> codifies them.
>
> Legislatures and governors are not
> afraid of undermining — or even
> downright repealing — citizen
> initiatives that win at the ballot
> box.
> Jan. 30, 2024
> https://www.governing.com/politics/the-increasing-trend-of-lawmakers-
> overriding-ballot-initiatives
>
> > > > > Contracts have to be agreed to by
> > > > > all parties bound by them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Contract (n)
> > > > > an agreement between two or more
> > > > > parties for the doing or not doing
> > > > > of something specified.
> > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract
> > > >
> > > > Then why would you be fined and possible jail time for breaking
> > > > various Laws?
> > >
> > > Contract laws are not criminal laws
> >
> > Yet you voted for many of them.
>
> A vote is not a contract.
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > They are totally separate.
> > >
> > > "Civil law involves people against
> > > people and looks to provide a remedy
> > > for individuals so they can enforce
> > > private rights against other individuals.
> > >
> > > Criminal law on the other hand, is a set
> > > of regulations both enacted and enforced
> > > by government action. This is primarily
> > > why criminal cases are always the defendant
> > > versus the state which the offence
> > > occurred in. Contract law does not feature
> > > within criminal law."
> > > https://jamesonlaw.com.au/commercial-law/contracts/is-contract-law-civ
> > > il- or-criminal/
> >
> > Why then have you voted to accept of deny them?
>
> A vote is not a contract.
>
> A vote is not a criminal law.
>
> Do you remember anything from high school civics?


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Subject: Re: The 4th Gospel
From: Mitchell Holman
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Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
news:0001HW.2BE5D01D001CFC39309C5A38F@news.eternal-september.org:

> On May 3, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
> (in article<XnsB167D21391399noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.13>):
>
>> Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> news:0001HW.2BE4BF2E00313795305B7438F@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> > On May 2, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > (in article<XnsB166D15CD3092noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.12>):
>> >
>> > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> > > news:0001HW.2BE334BA002AD11C30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.org:
>> > >
>> > > > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > > > (in article<XnsB165D172F3C34noemailcomcastnet@69.80.102.13>):
>> > > >
>> > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> > > > > news:0001HW.2BE2BC5B000E9ADB30ECC238F@news.eternal-september.o
>> > > > > rg:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On May 1, 2024, Mitchell Holman wrote
>> > > > > > (in
>> > > > > > article<XnsB16580ACD17F9noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.17>):
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Robert <robert@no.way> wrote in
>> > > > > > > news:0001HW.2BE2AF20000B80FD30ECC238F@news.eternal-septemb
>> > > > > > > er.o rg:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On May 1, 2024, Creon wrote
>> > > > > > > > (in article <l9eal3Fta0jU2@mid.individual.net>):
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On 25 Apr 2024 16:22:19 GMT, Creon wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 08:23:03 -0700, Andrew wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > > > > news:XnsB15F50CAD7170noemailcomcastnet@69.80.101.1
>> > > > > > > > > > > 3...
>> > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dawn Flood" wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Religious people not agreeing? Even
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fighting?! What gives??
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The true religion will exude love, peace,
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > healing and happy.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which "true religion" is that?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Servants, respectfully obey your earthly
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > masters but always with an eye to obeying the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > real master, Christ."
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ephesians 6:5
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Servants don't have masters, they
>> > > > > > > > > > > > have employers. These were SLAVES.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Without Jesus you are a slave to sin.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > "Jesus said,
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone
>> > > > > > > > > > > who practices sin is a slave to sin."
>> > > > > > > > > > > > John 8:34
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > “Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto
>> > > > > > > > you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of
>> > > > > > > > sin.†(Jhn 8:34, KJV)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Whether you appreciate the understanding or not, every
>> > > > > > > > one of you who is employed is a servant/slave/bondsman.
>> > > > > > > > You are working for DA Man.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Meh, the 4th Gospel is a bit dodgy, too.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Some tortured souls think John 1:1 has to do with
>> > > > > > > > > > the Bible itself, and use it to justify their
>> > > > > > > > > > bibidolatry. It's a shame they don't know
>> > > > > > > > > > conscience and reason are better allies than bad
>> > > > > > > > > > translations.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > The word teaches that Judaism is all about people who
>> > > > > > > > dwell under a contract setup by their forefathers in
>> > > > > > > > the wilderness.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > That is the fallacy of Biblical "law"
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > No one can be bound to a contract that
>> > > > > > > they did not sign.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > How many times have you been told that they both voted and
>> > > > > > signed it. Why are you bound by the laws of the US and the
>> > > > > > state and city you live in?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The penal code is not a contract.
>> >
>> > What penal code?
>> > You contracted with the state regarding all the vehicular laws when
>> > you got your drivers license.
>>
>> Wrong. You were told what the laws
>> were, you signed no contract with the
>> state to obey them.
>
> Your submittal to the DMC for a DL included that understanding, and
> for the proof of it you took a test to verify your knowledge of the
> rudimentary laws.
>

Show us a link to this contract.

>>
>> > You contracted with whomever regarding many other things like
>> > CC’s, loans etc.
>> > You also voted for penal codes within your state, etc.
>>
>> Wrong. Penal codes are a product
>> of the legislature. Even when the voters
>> pass a referendum on criminal laws they
>> are not legal until the legislature
>> codifies them.
>>
>> Legislatures and governors are not
>> afraid of undermining — or even
>> downright repealing — citizen
>> initiatives that win at the ballot
>> box.
>> Jan. 30, 2024
>> https://www.governing.com/politics/the-increasing-trend-of-lawmakers-
>> overriding-ballot-initiatives
>>
>> > > > > Contracts have to be agreed to by
>> > > > > all parties bound by them.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Contract (n)
>> > > > > an agreement between two or more
>> > > > > parties for the doing or not doing
>> > > > > of something specified.
>> > > > > https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contract
>> > > >
>> > > > Then why would you be fined and possible jail time for breaking
>> > > > various Laws?
>> > >
>> > > Contract laws are not criminal laws
>> >
>> > Yet you voted for many of them.
>>
>> A vote is not a contract.
>>
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > They are totally separate.
>> > >
>> > > "Civil law involves people against
>> > > people and looks to provide a remedy
>> > > for individuals so they can enforce
>> > > private rights against other individuals.
>> > >
>> > > Criminal law on the other hand, is a set
>> > > of regulations both enacted and enforced
>> > > by government action. This is primarily
>> > > why criminal cases are always the defendant
>> > > versus the state which the offence
>> > > occurred in. Contract law does not feature
>> > > within criminal law."
>> > > https://jamesonlaw.com.au/commercial-law/contracts/is-contract-law
>> > > -civ il- or-criminal/
>> >
>> > Why then have you voted to accept of deny them?
>>
>> A vote is not a contract.
>>
>> A vote is not a criminal law.
>>
>> Do you remember anything from high school civics?
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