On 2/8/2020 10:43 PM, course zealot wrote:
> With infinite energy and intelligence all things are possible is a matter of fact.
> Einstein's theory of relativity teaches us that matter is energy, and energy is
> matter.
>
> Thus, as a log can be burned into light, so can light be turned into a log.
>
> "Child of light... the light is in you."
>
>
> "With God all things are possible."
> - Jesus Christ, Matt 19:26, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV
>
>
> The above indicates the answer is light. Which is what we've been hearing in the
> thread above.
>
> "Miracles are seen in light."
>
> "It is important to remember that miracles and vision necessarily go together. You
> will see [Miracles] in the light; you will not see them in the dark.
>
> To you, then, light is crucial."
>
> [Also consider Love, for "With God all things are possible," - Jesus, and "God is
> love." - St. John the Divine, 1 John 4:8b, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV (he
> also said "God is Light and in him is no darkness at all."]
>
>
> Yet the below passages from the Bible indicate belief by itself could suffice. So
> do you think it is just light, (if love), as A Course in Miracles above is saying?
> Or is it also possible to use belief, apparently by itself, as the below passages
> say?:
>
>
> "So Jesus answered and said to them, “Have faith in God. For assuredly, I say to
> you, whoever says to this mountain, ‘Be removed and be cast into the sea,’ and
> does not doubt in his heart, but believes that those things he says will be done,
> he will have whatever he says. Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask
> when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them."
> - Jesus Christ, Mark 11:22-24, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV
>
>
> "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you will say to
> this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move; and nothing will be
> impossible for you."
> - Jesus Christ, Matt 17:20, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV
>
>
> "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will
> do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father."
> - Jesus Christ, John 14:12, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV
>
>
> "all things *are* possible to him who believes.”
> - Jesus Christ, Mark 9:23, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV
>
>
> It seems to say here, it's belief, in A Course in Miracles:
>
> "Few appreciate the real power of the mind, and no one remains fully aware of it
> all the time. However, if you hope to spare yourself from fear there are some
> things you must realize, and realize fully. The mind is very powerful, and never
> loses its creative force. It never sleeps. Every instant it is creating. It is
> hard to recognize that thought and belief combine into a power surge that can
> literally move mountains."
> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 2, Section 7
>
>
> Christianity commands you to work Miracles:
> "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you
> have received, freely give."
> - Jesus Christ, Matt 10:8, Holy Bible, New Testament, NKJV
>
>
> Another possibility is forgiveness:
> "Forgive the world, and you will understand that everything that God created
> cannot have an end, and nothing He did not create is real."
>
>
> So, Light, Love, Belief, Forgiveness, or a combination of all four? For it to be
> forgiveness per se, that would have to be because there was no quantifiable
> material world, which is kind of what the Course says, but not sure about this
> point except that as a prerequisite to Miracles, upset minds probably cannot work
> miracles, and there are some who connect materialism with guilt/qualification. In
> other words there are some who connect quantification with qualification; while I
> ponder if it's all qualification, yet the materialism of the world says it's not,
> yet A Course in Miracles says 'there is no world,' and if miracles exist, there is
> no world is clear.
>
>
> So while it is probable that forgiveness is a prerequisite, and perhaps you just
> have to search your mind for unforgiveness; the rest below further considers the
> possibility that it is forgiveness itself that works the miracles while the quotes
> above definitely suggest merely light, love or belief:
>
> "Salvation and forgiveness are the same. They both imply that something has gone
> wrong; something to be saved from, forgiven for; something amiss that needs
> corrective change; something apart or different from the Will of God. Thus do
> both terms imply a thing impossible but yet which has occurred, resulting in a
> state of conflict seen between what is and what could never be."
> - A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 99
>
>
> "You who belong to the First Cause, created by him like unto himself and part of
> him, are more than merely guiltless. The state of guiltlessness is only the
> condition in which what is not there has been removed from the disordered mind
> that thought it was. This state, and only this, must you attain... for until you
> do, you will still think that you are separate from God.
>
> When you have let all that obscured the truth in your most holy mind be undone for
> you, and therefore stand in grace before your Father, he will give himself to you
> as he has always done. Giving himself is all he knows, and so it is all
> knowledge. For what he knows not, cannot be, and therefore cannot be given."
>
> Would you know of One Who gives forever, and Who knows of nothing except giving?"
> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 14, Section 4 (5pdf)
>
>
> "Forgiveness is the healing of the perception of separation. Correct perception
> of your brother is necessary, because minds have chosen to see themselves as
> separate. Spirit knows God completely. That is its miraculous power. The fact
> that each one has this power completely is a condition entirely alien to the
> world's thinking. The world believes that if anyone has everything, there is
> nothing left. But God's miracles are as total as His Thoughts because they are
> His Thoughts.
>
> (Compare to: "The Kingdom cannot be found alone, and you who are the Kingdom
> cannot find yourself alone." - Chapter 8, Section 3; Is "alone" merely the notion
> there is someone out there, but they're not around? tangent)
>
> As long as perception lasts prayer has a place. Since perception rests on lack,
> those who perceive have not totally accepted the Atonement and given themselves
> over to truth. Perception is based on a separated state, so that anyone who
> perceives at all needs healing. Communion, not prayer, is the natural state of
> those who know. God and His miracle are inseparable. How beautiful indeed are
> the Thoughts of God who live in His light! Your worth is beyond perception
> because it is beyond doubt. Do not perceive yourself in different lights. Know
> yourself in the One Light where the miracle that is you is perfectly clear."
> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 3, Section 5
>
>
> "Prayer is a way of asking for something. It is the medium of miracles. But the
> only meaningful prayer is for forgiveness, because those who have been forgiven
> have everything. Once forgiveness has been accepted, prayer in the usual sense
> becomes utterly meaningless. The prayer for forgiveness is nothing more than a
> request that you may be able to recognize what you already have.
>
> In electing perception instead of knowledge, you placed yourself in a position
> where you could resemble your Father only by perceiving miraculously. You have
> lost the knowledge that you yourself are a miracle of God. Creation is your
> Source and your only real function."
>
>
> "Forgiveness is the only means whereby Christ's vision comes to me."
> - A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 247
>
> "Forgive your brother, and you cannot separate yourself from him nor from his
> Father. You need no forgiveness, for the wholly pure have never sinned."
> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 25, Section 2 (3 pdf)
>
>
> "God is the Love in which I forgive.
>
> God does not forgive because He has never condemned. And there must be
> condemnation before forgiveness is necessary. Forgiveness is the great need of
> this world, but that is because it is a world of illusions. Those who forgive are
> thus releasing themselves from illusions, while those who withhold forgiveness are
> binding themselves to them. As you condemn only yourself, so do you forgive only
> yourself.
> Yet although God does not forgive, His Love is nevertheless the basis of
> forgiveness. Fear condemns and love forgives. Forgiveness thus undoes what fear
> has produced, returning the mind to the awareness of God. For this reason,
> forgiveness can truly be called salvation. It is the means by which illusions
> disappear."
> - A Course in Miracles, Workbook, Lesson 46
>
> "Forgiveness can truly be called salvation. It is the means by which illusions
> disappear." !!
>
> yet,
>
> "Fear condemns and love forgives."
>
> => "love forgives."
>
> Like I said, perhaps you just have to search your mind for unforgiveness.
>
>
> "Those who forgive are thus releasing themselves from illusions, while those who
> withhold forgiveness are binding themselves to them."
>
>
> "As you condemn only yourself, so do you forgive only yourself."
>
>
> So maybe those who forgive, love themselves and others completely? And those who
> love, forgive others completely? What word or concept is best to focus on?
>
>
> The power of belief, the power of light, the power of forgiveness, the power of
> love, the power of the mind:
>
> Regarding the power of love vs. the power the mind, the mind only *is* the power
> of love, for there is nothing else besides love, but nothing. Nothing does not
> exist: A Course in Miracles confirms:
>
> "You cannot really give anything but love to anyone or anything, nor can you
> really receive anything but love from them."
> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 12, Section 7
>
> "you *are* love. Love is your power, which... gives you everything."
> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 7, Section 6
>
> So are the power of light, forgiveness, and love one, and are the power of belief
> and the mind one? And I just proved it says love and the mind are one, so there
> is one power?
>
> I would think light, but it looks like the above really harps on forgiveness,
> belief, and love. The power of the mind I guess is one of those four though, or
> all four as it is seeming.
>
> So forgiveness and love can be seen to be one, and love and light can be seen to
> be one, so these three can be seen to be one; but what's with belief?
>
>
> Maybe this is what it was saying about belief: (I hope the rest isn't getting
> superfluous):
>
> "Forgiveness is the home of miracles...
>
> The miracle is taken first on faith, because to ask for it implies the mind has
> been made ready to conceive of what it cannot see and does not understand. Yet
> faith will bring its witnesses to show that what it rested on is really there. And
> thus the miracle will justify your faith in it, and show it rested on a world more
> real than what you saw before; a world redeemed from what you thought was there."
>
> [Do you really think this is going to happen??]
>
> "Miracles... show that what is born can never die, for what has life has
> immortality."
> - A Course in Miracles, Workbook, "What Is a Miracle" For Lessons 341-350
>
> and,
> "The Holy Spirit is invisible, but you can see the results of his presence, and
> through them you will learn that he is there. What he enables you to do is
> clearly not of this world, for miracles violate every law of reality as this world
> judges it. Every law of time and space, of magnitude and mass is transcended, for
> what the Holy Spirit enables you to do is clearly beyond all of them. Perceiving
> his results, you will understand where he must be, and finally know what he is."
>
> and,
> "You cannot see the Holy Spirit, but you can see his manifestations. And unless
> you do, you will not realize he is there. Miracles are his witnesses, and speak
> for his presence. What you cannot see becomes real to you only through the
> witnesses that speak for it. For you can be aware of what you cannot see, and it
> can become compellingly real to you as its Presence becomes manifest through you.
> Do the Holy Spirit's work, for you share in his function. As your function in
> Heaven is creation, so your function on earth is healing. God shares his function
> with you in Heaven, and the Holy Spirit shares his with you on earth. As long as
> you believe you have other functions, so long will you need correction. For this
> belief is the destruction of peace, a goal in direct opposition to the Holy
> Spirit's purpose."
> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 12, Section 7
>
>
> Faith may almost seem to make one say, "someone else will do it," to give up one's
> own _agency_. If "faith," is, why wouldn't the "Holy Spirit" have been doing it
> for us _all along_?
>
> But,
> "God works with us and through us, and not without us or against us."
> - A Church Marquee
>
> "See the mighty works that he will do through you, and you must be convinced you
> did them through him. It is impossible to deny the Source of effects so powerful
> they could not be of you. Leave room for him, and you will find yourself so
> filled with power that nothing will prevail against your peace."
> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 14, Section 11 (12pdf)
>
> As discussed in the "Peace" post, as soon as you stop attacking yourself, and
> return your mind to peace, the love of God will naturally enter, because God is
> here already. To be filled with the Holy Spirit merely means to give up
corruption.
>
> "Perceiving his results, you will understand where he must be, and finally know
> what he is."
> - A Course in Miracles, Chapter 12, Section 7
>
> It must be remembered, it is not the Holy Spirit whom you turn to, but _Your_ Holy
> Spirit, Your Holy _Self_: "My Holy Self shall heal all things" (My concept). Your
> Holy Self is the One Self which runs through all things, and is greater than the
> small concept of yourself. But it is the simple same self you know, the only you
> you've ever known, not distracted by all the responsibilities and recreational
> pursuits of the world.
>
> So become one with the light, and with God all things are possible. God is light,
> so with light all things are possible.
>
> Love
> Forgiveness
> Light
> Belief/Faith/The Mind
>
> Forgiveness is forgiveness. That is what it's for.