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Subject: Re: Undocumented Immigrants Prop Up Red State Economy
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On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 07:17:43 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:37:36 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Siri Cruise wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2025 4:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> >On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:51:43 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > % wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Skeeter wrote:
>>> > > > > In article <hsqcnVcIMuiv7OT6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>> > > > > cleetis@gmail.com says...
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > NoBody wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > On 4 Jan 2025 14:10:10 -0000, bks@panix.com wrote:
>>> > > > > > >
>>> >>>>>>>> Key Findings
>>> >>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal,
>>> >>>>>>>> state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4
>>> >>>>>>>> billion, was paid to the federal government while the
>>> >>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>>> >>>>>>>> governments.
>>> > > > > > > > >
>>> >>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local
>>> >>>>>>>> taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for
>>> >>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the
>>> >>>>>>>> country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>>> >>>>>>>> tax revenue.
>>> >>>>>>>> ...
>>> > > > > > > > <https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/>
>>> > > > > > > >
>>> >>>>>>> --bks
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > How did they determine illegals were paying these taxes if they
>>> > > > > > > are...illegal?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants
>>> > > > > > July 30 2024
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7
>>> > > > > > billion in federal, state, and local
>>> > > > > > taxes in 2022. Most of that amount,
>>> > > > > > $59.4 billion, was paid to the
>>> > > > > > federal government while the
>>> > > > > > remaining $37.3 billion was paid to
>>> > > > > > state and local governments.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented immigrants paid federal,
>>> > > > > > state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>>> > > > > > person in 2022. In other words, for
>>> > > > > > every 1 million undocumented
>>> > > > > > immigrants who reside in the country,
>>> > > > > > public services receive $8.9 billion
>>> > > > > > in additional tax revenue.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > More than a third of the tax dollars
>>> > > > > > paid by undocumented immigrants go
>>> > > > > > toward payroll taxes dedicated to
>>> > > > > > funding programs that these workers
>>> > > > > > are barred from accessing.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7
>>> > > > > > billion in Social Security taxes,
>>> > > > > > $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and
>>> > > > > > $1.8 billion in unemployment
>>> > > > > > insurance taxes in 2022.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Six states raised more than $1 billion
>>> > > > > > each in tax revenue from undocumented
>>> > > > > > immigrants living within their borders.
>>> > > > > > Those states are California ($8.5
>>> > > > > > billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New
>>> > > > > > York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8
>>> >>>>> billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion),
>>> > > > > > and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
>>> > > > > > https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented Immigrants in US Pay
>>> > > > > > Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes
>>> > > > > > july 30 2024
>>> > > > > >
>>> > >
>>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-30/undocumented-immigrants-in-us-paid-nearly-100-billion-in-taxes?embedded-checkout=true
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented Texans Paid $4.9
>>> > > > > > Billion in State and Local Taxes
>>> > > > > > in 2022
>>> > > > > > AUGUST 6, 2024
>>> > > > > >
>>https://everytexan.org/2024/08/06/undocumented-texans-paid-4-9-billion-in-state-and-local-taxes-in-2022/
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Undocumented Immigrants Pay $1.8
>>> > > > > > Billion in Florida Taxes a Year
>>> > > > > > July 30, 2024
>>> > > > > >
>>> > >
>>https://www.floridapolicy.org/posts/undocumented-immigrants-pay-1-8-billion-in-florida-taxes-a-year-national-study-finds
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > If they don't have a SSN how are they paying taxes?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > they aren't because they have no taxable income
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >> You think immigrants don't pay
>>> > > sales taxes and property taxes and
>>> > > payroll taxes?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > They're working under the table but are paying payroll taxes
>>>
>>> Most are not working under the table.
>>>
>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes
>>> in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal
>>> government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>>> governments.
>>>
>>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>>> person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants
>>> who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>>> tax revenue.
>>>
>>> More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go
>>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are
>>> barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social
>>> Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in
>>> unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
>>>
>>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>>>
>>> You don't know what you're talking about. You never do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Facts 1, "Nobody" 0.
>>
>>
>>
>
>Interesting given that I asked several obvious question above that you
>refused to answer and ran from.
>
>
>From the stupid ITEP "study":
>
>"To accomplish this, the study combines well-established techniques
>for estimating the size and tax-relevant characteristics of the
>undocumented population with the trove of data underlying ITEPÂ’s
>comprehensive studies of U.S. tax incidence.[1] In doing so, it
>arrives at nationwide estimates of the overall tax contributions of
>the estimated 10.9 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.
>as of 2022, as well as state-by-state estimates for those immigrantsÂ’
>payments of state and local taxes.[2] The report also forecasts the
>growth in tax contributions that would occur under a scenario in which
>these taxpayers were granted work authorization.
>
>"
>
>Translation: They GUESSED.
>
>No tell us how illegals, who don't have the documentation necessary to
>be on payrolls legally pay payroll and Social Security taxes.
>
>
>Good grief....
>
>>

And Lying Lee has fled.

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