On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:05:52 -0700, Skeeter
<skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>In article <JDTfP.922637$bYV2.467399@fx17.iad>, joelcrump@gmail.com
>says...
>>
>> On 1/9/2025 4:17 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> > On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:37:36 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Siri Cruise wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 1/7/2025 4:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> >>>> On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:51:43 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> % wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>> >>>>>>> In article <hsqcnVcIMuiv7OT6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> >>>>>>> cleetis@gmail.com says...
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> NoBody wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 4 Jan 2025 14:10:10 -0000, bks@panix.com wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Key Findings
>> >>>>>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal,
>> >>>>>>>>>>> state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4
>> >>>>>>>>>>> billion, was paid to the federal government while the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>> >>>>>>>>>>> governments.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local
>> >>>>>>>>>>> taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for
>> >>>>>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>> >>>>>>>>>>> tax revenue.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> --bks
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> How did they determine illegals were paying these taxes if they
>> >>>>>>>>> are...illegal?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants
>> >>>>>>>> July 30 2024
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7
>> >>>>>>>> billion in federal, state, and local
>> >>>>>>>> taxes in 2022. Most of that amount,
>> >>>>>>>> $59.4 billion, was paid to the
>> >>>>>>>> federal government while the
>> >>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to
>> >>>>>>>> state and local governments.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal,
>> >>>>>>>> state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>> >>>>>>>> person in 2022. In other words, for
>> >>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented
>> >>>>>>>> immigrants who reside in the country,
>> >>>>>>>> public services receive $8.9 billion
>> >>>>>>>> in additional tax revenue.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> More than a third of the tax dollars
>> >>>>>>>> paid by undocumented immigrants go
>> >>>>>>>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to
>> >>>>>>>> funding programs that these workers
>> >>>>>>>> are barred from accessing.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7
>> >>>>>>>> billion in Social Security taxes,
>> >>>>>>>> $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and
>> >>>>>>>> $1.8 billion in unemployment
>> >>>>>>>> insurance taxes in 2022.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Six states raised more than $1 billion
>> >>>>>>>> each in tax revenue from undocumented
>> >>>>>>>> immigrants living within their borders.
>> >>>>>>>> Those states are California ($8.5
>> >>>>>>>> billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New
>> >>>>>>>> York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8
>> >>>>>>>> billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion),
>> >>>>>>>> and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
>> >>>>>>>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented Immigrants in US Pay
>> >>>>>>>> Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes
>> >>>>>>>> july 30 2024
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-30/undocumented-immigrants-in-us-paid-nearly-100-billion-in-taxes?embedded-checkout=true
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented Texans Paid $4.9
>> >>>>>>>> Billion in State and Local Taxes
>> >>>>>>>> in 2022
>> >>>>>>>> AUGUST 6, 2024
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> https://everytexan.org/2024/08/06/undocumented-texans-paid-4-9-billion-in-state-and-local-taxes-in-2022/
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Undocumented Immigrants Pay $1.8
>> >>>>>>>> Billion in Florida Taxes a Year
>> >>>>>>>> July 30, 2024
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >> https://www.floridapolicy.org/posts/undocumented-immigrants-pay-1-8-billion-in-florida-taxes-a-year-national-study-finds
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> If they don't have a SSN how are they paying taxes?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> they aren't because they have no taxable income
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> You think immigrants don't pay
>> >>>>> sales taxes and property taxes and
>> >>>>> payroll taxes?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> They're working under the table but are paying payroll taxes
>> >>>
>> >>> Most are not working under the table.
>> >>>
>> >>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes
>> >>> in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal
>> >>> government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>> >>> governments.
>> >>>
>> >>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>> >>> person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants
>> >>> who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>> >>> tax revenue.
>> >>>
>> >>> More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go
>> >>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are
>> >>> barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social
>> >>> Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in
>> >>> unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
>> >>>
>> >>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>> >>>
>> >>> You don't know what you're talking about. You never do.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Facts 1, "Nobody" 0.
>>
>> A regular occurrence.
>>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Interesting given that I asked several obvious question [sic] above that you
>> > refused to answer and ran from.
>> >
>> >
>> > From the stupid ITEP "study":
>>
>> The study is legitimate.
>>
>> >
>> > "To accomplish this, the study combines well-established techniques
>> > for estimating the size and tax-relevant characteristics of the
>> > undocumented population with the trove of data underlying ITEP?s
>> > comprehensive studies of U.S. tax incidence.[1] In doing so, it
>> > arrives at nationwide estimates of the overall tax contributions of
>> > the estimated 10.9 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.
>> > as of 2022, as well as state-by-state estimates for those immigrants?
>> > payments of state and local taxes.[2] The report also forecasts the
>> > growth in tax contributions that would occur under a scenario in which
>> > these taxpayers were granted work authorization.
>> >
>> > "
>> >
>> > Translation: They GUESSED.
>>
>> Wrong. They estimated using valid statistical techniques that you don't know
>> anything about. You are innumerate.
>>
>> >
>> > No tell us how illegals, who don't have the documentation necessary to
>> > be on payrolls legally pay payroll and Social Security taxes.
>>
>> I've been working at my current employer since 2019. I never did complete the
>> I-9 employment eligibility verification form. It was too cumbersome. All income
>> and payroll taxes have been deducted from my pay.
>>
>> Undocumented immigrants pay many billions in taxes.
>
>How? What SSN do they use?

This is the liberal illiterate mind at work and they are simply too
ignorant to answer simple questions. I asked the dimbulbs the same
question and they simply repeated the "Illegals pay taxes" nonsense
without answering how they would be paying payroll taxes.

It's a mental illness.