In article <JDTfP.922637$bYV2.467399@fx17.iad>, joelcrump@gmail.com
says...
>
> On 1/9/2025 4:17 AM, NoBody wrote:
> > On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:37:36 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Siri Cruise wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 1/7/2025 4:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:51:43 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> % wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <hsqcnVcIMuiv7OT6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> >>>>>>> cleetis@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> NoBody wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 4 Jan 2025 14:10:10 -0000, bks@panix.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Key Findings
> >>>>>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal,
> >>>>>>>>>>> state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4
> >>>>>>>>>>> billion, was paid to the federal government while the
> >>>>>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
> >>>>>>>>>>> governments.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local
> >>>>>>>>>>> taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for
> >>>>>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
> >>>>>>>>>>> tax revenue.
> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>> <https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --bks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> How did they determine illegals were paying these taxes if they
> >>>>>>>>> are...illegal?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants
> >>>>>>>> July 30 2024
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7
> >>>>>>>> billion in federal, state, and local
> >>>>>>>> taxes in 2022. Most of that amount,
> >>>>>>>> $59.4 billion, was paid to the
> >>>>>>>> federal government while the
> >>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to
> >>>>>>>> state and local governments.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal,
> >>>>>>>> state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
> >>>>>>>> person in 2022. In other words, for
> >>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented
> >>>>>>>> immigrants who reside in the country,
> >>>>>>>> public services receive $8.9 billion
> >>>>>>>> in additional tax revenue.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> More than a third of the tax dollars
> >>>>>>>> paid by undocumented immigrants go
> >>>>>>>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to
> >>>>>>>> funding programs that these workers
> >>>>>>>> are barred from accessing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7
> >>>>>>>> billion in Social Security taxes,
> >>>>>>>> $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and
> >>>>>>>> $1.8 billion in unemployment
> >>>>>>>> insurance taxes in 2022.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Six states raised more than $1 billion
> >>>>>>>> each in tax revenue from undocumented
> >>>>>>>> immigrants living within their borders.
> >>>>>>>> Those states are California ($8.5
> >>>>>>>> billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New
> >>>>>>>> York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8
> >>>>>>>> billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion),
> >>>>>>>> and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
> >>>>>>>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Undocumented Immigrants in US Pay
> >>>>>>>> Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes
> >>>>>>>> july 30 2024
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-30/undocumented-immigrants-in-us-paid-nearly-100-billion-in-taxes?embedded-checkout=true
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Undocumented Texans Paid $4.9
> >>>>>>>> Billion in State and Local Taxes
> >>>>>>>> in 2022
> >>>>>>>> AUGUST 6, 2024
> >>>>>>>>
> >> https://everytexan.org/2024/08/06/undocumented-texans-paid-4-9-billion-in-state-and-local-taxes-in-2022/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Undocumented Immigrants Pay $1.8
> >>>>>>>> Billion in Florida Taxes a Year
> >>>>>>>> July 30, 2024
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> https://www.floridapolicy.org/posts/undocumented-immigrants-pay-1-8-billion-in-florida-taxes-a-year-national-study-finds
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If they don't have a SSN how are they paying taxes?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> they aren't because they have no taxable income
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You think immigrants don't pay
> >>>>> sales taxes and property taxes and
> >>>>> payroll taxes?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> They're working under the table but are paying payroll taxes
> >>>
> >>> Most are not working under the table.
> >>>
> >>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes
> >>> in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal
> >>> government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
> >>> governments.
> >>>
> >>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
> >>> person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants
> >>> who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
> >>> tax revenue.
> >>>
> >>> More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go
> >>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are
> >>> barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social
> >>> Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in
> >>> unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
> >>>
> >>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
> >>>
> >>> You don't know what you're talking about. You never do.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Facts 1, "Nobody" 0.
>
> A regular occurrence.
>
> >>
> >
> > Interesting given that I asked several obvious question [sic] above that you
> > refused to answer and ran from.
> >
> >
> > From the stupid ITEP "study":
>
> The study is legitimate.
>
> >
> > "To accomplish this, the study combines well-established techniques
> > for estimating the size and tax-relevant characteristics of the
> > undocumented population with the trove of data underlying ITEP?s
> > comprehensive studies of U.S. tax incidence.[1] In doing so, it
> > arrives at nationwide estimates of the overall tax contributions of
> > the estimated 10.9 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.
> > as of 2022, as well as state-by-state estimates for those immigrants?
> > payments of state and local taxes.[2] The report also forecasts the
> > growth in tax contributions that would occur under a scenario in which
> > these taxpayers were granted work authorization.
> >
> > "
> >
> > Translation: They GUESSED.
>
> Wrong. They estimated using valid statistical techniques that you don't know
> anything about. You are innumerate.
>
> >
> > No tell us how illegals, who don't have the documentation necessary to
> > be on payrolls legally pay payroll and Social Security taxes.
>
> I've been working at my current employer since 2019. I never did complete the
> I-9 employment eligibility verification form. It was too cumbersome. All income
> and payroll taxes have been deducted from my pay.
>
> Undocumented immigrants pay many billions in taxes.

How? What SSN do they use?