On 1/9/2025 4:17 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:37:36 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Siri Cruise wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2025 4:09 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 17:51:43 +0000, "Lee" <cleetis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> % wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <hsqcnVcIMuiv7OT6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>>>>>>> cleetis@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4 Jan 2025 14:10:10 -0000, bks@panix.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Key Findings
>>>>>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal,
>>>>>>>>>>> state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4
>>>>>>>>>>> billion, was paid to the federal government while the
>>>>>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>>>>>>>>>>> governments.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> o Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local
>>>>>>>>>>> taxes of $8,889 per person in 2022. In other words, for
>>>>>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented immigrants who reside in the
>>>>>>>>>>> country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>>>>>>>>>>> tax revenue.
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> <https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/ " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --bks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How did they determine illegals were paying these taxes if they
>>>>>>>>> are...illegal?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants
>>>>>>>> July 30 2024
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7
>>>>>>>> billion in federal, state, and local
>>>>>>>> taxes in 2022. Most of that amount,
>>>>>>>> $59.4 billion, was paid to the
>>>>>>>> federal government while the
>>>>>>>> remaining $37.3 billion was paid to
>>>>>>>> state and local governments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal,
>>>>>>>> state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>>>>>>>> person in 2022. In other words, for
>>>>>>>> every 1 million undocumented
>>>>>>>> immigrants who reside in the country,
>>>>>>>> public services receive $8.9 billion
>>>>>>>> in additional tax revenue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More than a third of the tax dollars
>>>>>>>> paid by undocumented immigrants go
>>>>>>>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to
>>>>>>>> funding programs that these workers
>>>>>>>> are barred from accessing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7
>>>>>>>> billion in Social Security taxes,
>>>>>>>> $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and
>>>>>>>> $1.8 billion in unemployment
>>>>>>>> insurance taxes in 2022.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Six states raised more than $1 billion
>>>>>>>> each in tax revenue from undocumented
>>>>>>>> immigrants living within their borders.
>>>>>>>> Those states are California ($8.5
>>>>>>>> billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New
>>>>>>>> York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8
>>>>>>>> billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion),
>>>>>>>> and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).
>>>>>>>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Undocumented Immigrants in US Pay
>>>>>>>> Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes
>>>>>>>> july 30 2024
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-07-30/undocumented-immigrants-in-us-paid-nearly-100-billion-in-taxes?embedded-checkout=true
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Undocumented Texans Paid $4.9
>>>>>>>> Billion in State and Local Taxes
>>>>>>>> in 2022
>>>>>>>> AUGUST 6, 2024
>>>>>>>>
>> https://everytexan.org/2024/08/06/undocumented-texans-paid-4-9-billion-in-state-and-local-taxes-in-2022/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Undocumented Immigrants Pay $1.8
>>>>>>>> Billion in Florida Taxes a Year
>>>>>>>> July 30, 2024
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://www.floridapolicy.org/posts/undocumented-immigrants-pay-1-8-billion-in-florida-taxes-a-year-national-study-finds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If they don't have a SSN how are they paying taxes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> they aren't because they have no taxable income
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You think immigrants don't pay
>>>>> sales taxes and property taxes and
>>>>> payroll taxes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They're working under the table but are paying payroll taxes
>>>
>>> Most are not working under the table.
>>>
>>> Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes
>>> in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal
>>> government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local
>>> governments.
>>>
>>> Undocumented immigrants paid federal, state, and local taxes of $8,889 per
>>> person in 2022. In other words, for every 1 million undocumented immigrants
>>> who reside in the country, public services receive $8.9 billion in additional
>>> tax revenue.
>>>
>>> More than a third of the tax dollars paid by undocumented immigrants go
>>> toward payroll taxes dedicated to funding programs that these workers are
>>> barred from accessing. Undocumented immigrants paid $25.7 billion in Social
>>> Security taxes, $6.4 billion in Medicare taxes, and $1.8 billion in
>>> unemployment insurance taxes in 2022.
>>>
>>> https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
>>>
>>> You don't know what you're talking about. You never do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Facts 1, "Nobody" 0.

A regular occurrence.

>>
>
> Interesting given that I asked several obvious question [sic] above that you
> refused to answer and ran from.
>
>
> From the stupid ITEP "study":

The study is legitimate.

>
> "To accomplish this, the study combines well-established techniques
> for estimating the size and tax-relevant characteristics of the
> undocumented population with the trove of data underlying ITEP’s
> comprehensive studies of U.S. tax incidence.[1] In doing so, it
> arrives at nationwide estimates of the overall tax contributions of
> the estimated 10.9 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.
> as of 2022, as well as state-by-state estimates for those immigrants’
> payments of state and local taxes.[2] The report also forecasts the
> growth in tax contributions that would occur under a scenario in which
> these taxpayers were granted work authorization.
>
> "
>
> Translation: They GUESSED.

Wrong. They estimated using valid statistical techniques that you don't know
anything about. You are innumerate.

>
> No tell us how illegals, who don't have the documentation necessary to
> be on payrolls legally pay payroll and Social Security taxes.

I've been working at my current employer since 2019. I never did complete the
I-9 employment eligibility verification form. It was too cumbersome. All income
and payroll taxes have been deducted from my pay.

Undocumented immigrants pay many billions in taxes.