On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 17:51:14 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 02:44:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> D. Ray <d@ray> wrote in
>>> news:ZdhJjUDqlCRxitfrPwWzMtIILOBfADnZ@news.usenet.farm:
>>>
>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <XnsB24282B6876A4629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:6755cbe3$0$3620704$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <XnsB241D5223CE42629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:6754a3bf$1$2385532$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <XnsB24185B786DF9629555@185.151.15.160>,
>>>>>>>>> noemail@aol.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:vj1t6i$367nb$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-07, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vj1m9p$34i8c$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-07, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14165741/unit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e dhe alt hc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are-brian-thompson-ai-patient-coverage-lawsuit.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A controversial AI program used to deny elderly people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health coverage is now at the center of questions about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooting of the UnitedHealthcare CEO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Thompson, 50 was gunned down Wednesday outside a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hilton in Midtown Manhattan in what police have described as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 'brazen' and 'targeted' attack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It has now emerged that during the years before that, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> company implemented AI software that had a 90 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denial rate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . . .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gee ... what a SHIT !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say "criminal".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAKE money, promising services, DELIVER the fuckin'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> services !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't feel sorry for him anymore.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, RFK and friends, skip the Froot Loops for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awhile and look at THIS health bullshit. Seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a GIGANTIC problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why I say follow the money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this case it probably has something to do with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disgruntled person denied care either for himself or family.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could also be corruption in the company such as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> embezzlement, money laundering etc. And it appears the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shooter had inside information knowing where the CEO was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> staying, arriving, speaking and time frames so that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting as well. His speaking events are probably public
>>>>>>>>>>>>> record, but arrival times? That's a bit odd.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> They will capture this guy, eventually.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck on getting a jury to convict,
>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a huge "good riddance" factor to
>>>>>>>>>>>> deal with.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In NYC anything is possible but as a rule people loath
>>>>>>>>>>> insurance companies, big pharma and the like so depending upon
>>>>>>>>>>> the jury make up and despite the evidence we see so far you
>>>>>>>>>>> might be correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you been following the trial of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Perry, the guy who killed a deranged
>>>>>>>>>>>> subway rider who was threatening other
>>>>>>>>>>>> passengers? Even Republicans are applauding
>>>>>>>>>>>> what he did.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have. This guy is a hero.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So is the CEO shooter.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I grew up in NYC and have taken the subway literally 1000's of
>>>>>>>>>>> times (high school, college, to the beach, the city etc) from
>>>>>>>>>>> the early 70's through the mid 80's so I know full well how
>>>>>>>>>>> dangerous it can be.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I used to see crazies all the time. Urinating between cars onto
>>>>>>>>>>> the tracks. Pooping, using drugs, harassing people and
>>>>>>>>>>> attacking people as well. I learned from a cop relative if
>>>>>>>>>>> stared at never look away but stare back straight into the
>>>>>>>>>>> perps eyes. It plants the thought that you are either a
>>>>>>>>>>> decoy/cop or as crazy as they are so they won't mess with you.
>>>>>>>>>>> And it works. Looking away shows weakness and getting up and
>>>>>>>>>>> moving to another car is even worse as they will follow you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2024 Republican hopefuls rush to defend Marine
>>>>>>>>>>>> who put NYC subway rider in fatal chokehold
>>>>>>>>>>>> May 20, 2023
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis urged the nation
>>>>>>>>>>>> to show Daniel Penny that "AmericaÂ?s got his
>>>>>>>>>>>> back." Former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley
>>>>>>>>>>>> called for New YorkÂ?s governor to pardon
>>>>>>>>>>>> Penny, and biotech entrepreneur Vivek
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ramaswamy donated $10,000 to his legal defense
>>>>>>>>>>>> fund.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican presidential hopefuls have lined
>>>>>>>>>>>> up to support Penny, a 24-year-old U.S. Marine
>>>>>>>>>>>> veteran who was caught on video pinning an
>>>>>>>>>>>> agitated fellow subway passenger in New York
>>>>>>>>>>>> City to the floor in a chokehold. The passenger,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 30-year-old Jordan Neely, later died from
>>>>>>>>>>>> compression of the neck, according to the medical
>>>>>>>>>>>> examiner.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Penny has been charged with manslaughter. His
>>>>>>>>>>>> attorneys say he acted in self-defense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://apnews.com/article/2024-republicans-subway-chokehold-de
>>>>>>>>>>>> a th- be39b29eef4529bf996c13ec5bcd22ef
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This was not racial like the throngs of blacks protesting at
>>>>>>>>>>> the court each day are claiming.
>>>>>>>>>>> This was a Good Samaritan stopping what might have been attacks
>>>>>>>>>>> on helpless people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Helpless people, like sick people
>>>>>>>>>> being defraud and left to die by the
>>>>>>>>>> CEO who got shot.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As I said, good luck on getting
>>>>>>>>>> a jury to convict him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You support violence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everyone supports violence in a cause they support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bunker Hill, Gettysburg, Hiroshima, anyone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice spin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you object to the above acts of violence?
>>>>>
>>>>> You support terrorist violence.
>>>>
>>>> State violence absolutely can be “terrorist violenceâ€?. Hiroshima
>>>> 100% was. There were no military goals involved.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hiroshima was a military target.
>>>
>>> https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/mp06.asp
>>>
>>> Dresden was not.
>>
>> It was a transport and comm hub.
>>
>
>I expect after Coventry, UK was done with nuances.

Yeah, it's the reason war is a bad thing. It's supposed to be a bad thing.
Trying to clean it up, make it more 'civilized' leads you here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Taste_of_Armageddon