On 10/20/24 6:38 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vf3sgd$iukn$2@dont-email.me>, recscuba_google@huntzinger.com
> says...
>>
>> On 10/20/24 11:36 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vf2mf0$cfh6$1@dont-email.me>, recscuba_google@huntzinger.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/19/24 10:01 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vf02hi$3cf08$3@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/18/24 1:46 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <veu63e$3cbit$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/18/24 11:23 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vetsqo$3bg55$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>>>>>> Yet gas is still not 2x what it was before CoVid. Nor are groceries.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you admit prices are higher? Yes when Trump was in office i was
>>>>>>>>> paying less than 2 bucks a gallon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not for most of Trump's tenure you didn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The only time that gas was under $2/gallon during Trump's tenure was for
>>>>>>>> just 9 weeks during the biggest part of the CoVid shutdown, namely
>>>>>>>> 4/6/20 to 6/1/20.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's just 4% of Trump's time in office: the other 96% of the time you
>>>>>>>> were paying more.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In some cases, more then than the equivalent dollar value today.
>>>>>>>> Case in point, from my prior post:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 10/08/2018: $2.903 --> that's in 2018 dollars
>>>>>>>> 10/07/2024: $3.136 --> that's in 2024 dollars.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As per the CPI calculator (here's the URL again):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.usinflationcalculator.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...$1 in 2018 is worth $0.80 today, so (.80)*($3.136) = $2.51/gallon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, what this means is that the real price of gas today is 13% lower
>>>>>>>> than it was the same week back in 2018.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Plus since this is supposed to be about policy, not random chance of
>>>>>>>> CoVid, do you remember what did Trump do when gas prices did plummet by
>>>>>>>> 20% in one month from CoVid?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why Trump flew to Saudi Arabia and demanded that OPEC cut production so
>>>>>>>> as to raise oil prices:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/special-report-trump-told-saudi-cut-oil-supply-or-lose-us-military-support--idUSKBN22C1V3/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Plus on future oil prices, Trump set the stage for those being higher
>>>>>>>> too after his term, by expanding bans on domestic exploration drilling,
>>>>>>>> calling himself a "great environmentalist":
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.npr.org/2020/09/26/917309717/as-election-nears-trump-expands-moratorium-on-exploratory-drilling-in-atlantic>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your claims have been debunked by the facts, and for you to try to blame
>>>>>>>>>> the messenger instead of yourself for being wrong is pathetically lame.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Whatever. What you call facts is only bullshit put out there to make the
>>>>>>>>> people happy. I do the shopping. I know what is going on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It ain't bullshit to cite historical industry data. Especially data
>>>>>>>> that's been collected & published weekly for literally decades.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It ain't bullshit to note that you've cherry-picked from the CoVid price
>>>>>>>> crash, instead being honest on what prices were 90%+ of the time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And it ain't bullshit to note that you've avoided correcting me on what
>>>>>>>> I said about your statements:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [quote]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "I couls afford to do stuff."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> which you said that in context to your prior
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "I was better off when Trump was in office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're trying to imply that you could afford stuff when Trump was in
>>>>>>>> office, but now you can't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You've claimed that gas was 2x more expensive.
>>>>>>>> That's been proven false.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You've also claimed food was 2x more expensive.
>>>>>>>> That's been proven false too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Got anything else you want to try to falsely blame?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're playing word games again. The fact is prices are higher on
>>>>>>> everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except that I didn't dispute prices going up: I merely debunked your
>>>>>> claim that gas & groceries had doubled in less than four years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The lies about crime also. Crime is on the rise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're still making an empty claim not supported with substantiation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I live here idiot. I know what I see.
>>>>
>>>> Confirmation bias is a devious thing. Do you have clippings from your
>>>> hometown newspaper articles for the past ~decade where you've actually
>>>> kept track of the rates?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What is a "handful" of apartment buildings?
>>
>> Apartment buildings? What are you smoking?
>
> Try to keep up.
>>
>>
>>>> If not, you merely have an opinion.
>>>
>>> I live here.
>>
>> Doesn't mean that you've actually kept track of what's happening.
>
> But I do so deal with it.

Except that the evidence you've provided shows the exact opposite: no
credible national cost metric has reported that gas has gone up by 2x,
nor groceries either.

>>>>>>> I can waste
>>>>>>> time arguing with you woke freaks. You all parrot each other. Like
>>>>>>> Kamalla did you just spin around the topics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately for you, I've substantiated what I've said. You only have
>>>>>> your knee-jerk emotions which are not based in factual reality.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I live here. Try getting out sometime.
>>>>
>>>> Was just out yesterday for dinner. Crab cakes!
>>>> Didn't see a single criminal act. Now what, Batman?
>>>>
>>> Damn you're dumb. Do you think your little bubble is the whole country?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I've already cite National statistics, whereas you've tried to claim
>> that you know better than that because of your little microcosm.
>
> I don't trust any of that shit.

How do you even trust your local grocery store to be truthful in
pricing? After all, they could be jacking up prices on your community
to increase their own profits above inflation .. or even just targeting
higher prices at a few customers they don't particularly like (eg.
you!): you don't have access to their accounting books, so on what
basis do you have to blindly trust them?

>>
>> I've got my microcosm too, but I also know to look beyond that for
>> trends: why aren't you able to?
>
> I know the truth. That works for me.

No, what you have is nothing more than a case of confirmation bias.

Its similar to have you have a case of recency bias when it comes to
your inadequately done retirement budget (lack of financial) plan.

-hh