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Subject: Ugly Truth About Trump, and How He Got His Political Start
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>They say we're not allowed to talk about this. Well, too bad!!

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT TRUMP EITHER SO THAT MEANS EVERYTHING WE
SAY IS TRUE.

THAT MAY BE TRUE BUT TRUMP WAS BLOWING OTHER MEN DURING THE 1970S TO STOP
BEING DRAFTED AND SENT TO VIETNAM. IT'S SAID THAT TRUMP HAS A PRETTY GOOD
TECHNIQUE AND GIVES GOOD HEAD.

HE CALLED IT HIS 'PERSONAL VIETNAM'. HE GOT VD FROM DOZENS OF NEW YORK
CITY RENT BOYS.

TRUMP, A WIFE BEATER, ALSO HAS AIDS FROM SEXUAL ACTIVITY DURING THE 1980S,
ANOTHER ONE OF HIS 'PERSONAL VIETNAMS'.

Trump once said that avoiding STDs in his
dating life in the '80s was his �personal Vietnam."


Rating: Correct Attribution

Ahead of the 2024 U.S. presidential election, a comment made by former U.S.
President Donald Trump in the 1990s resurfaced on social media. On Aug. 8,
2024, a post on X claimed that Trump had once referred to avoiding sexually
transmitted diseases (STDs) as his "personal Vietnam."

The post, which had been viewed 662,400 times as of this writing, featured
a 25-second clip from Trump's 1997 appearance on Howard Stern's radio show.
In the clip, Stern interviewed Trump, then a New York real estate mogul,
about his sexual escapades.

It is true that Trump made this remark comparing his avoidance of STD's to
"his personal Vietnam" during his appearance on "The Howard Stern Show." As
such, we rate this claim as "Correct Attribution."

A longer version of the clip has also been posted to YouTube.

In the video, Trump is seen in a studio being interviewed by Stern along
with his co-host Robin Quivers, with the two men joking about surviving the
'80s with their sexual health intact. During the conversation, Stern first
compared the situation to the Vietnam War, a comparison that Trump echoed.
Here is a transcript of that exchange:

Howard Stern: Now, getting back to dating, right? And when you gotta
say to a woman, "Hey, listen, you gotta go to my personal doctor, and I'm
gonna have you checked out," is that a tough thing to say to a woman, or
you just got the b***s to say it?

Donald Trump: You know? I tell you, it's amazing. I can't even believe
it. I've been so lucky, in terms of that whole world.

Howard Stern: You've never gotten a social disease.

Donald Trump: It is a dangerous world out there. It is scary. It's like
Vietnam, sort of like, you know, the Vietnam era.

Howard Stern: It is. It is your personal Vietnam.

Donald Trump: It is my personal Vietnam.

Howard Stern: You've said that many times.

Donald Trump: I feel like a great and very brave soldier.

In an earlier 1993 interview with Stern, the two men discussed Trump's
dating life during the 1980s' AIDS crisis. According to a 2016 BuzzFeed
News report:

"You know, if you're young, and in this era, and if you have any guilt
about not having gone to Vietnam. We have our own Vietnam. It's called the
dating game," he said during a discussion of Trump's well-publicized
germaphobia and the ongoing AIDs epidemic.

"It's pretty dangerous out there Robin. It's like Vietnam," Trump said
earlier in the interview.

"It is, it is," Stern said. "The dating scene is like Vietnam."

"Dating is like being in Vietnam," Trump said. "You're the equivalent
of a soldier going over to Vietnam."

Stern reflected on his 1997 radio interview with Trump in his 2019 memoir
"Howard Stern Comes Again," transcribing it on page 132, and affirming that
he was the one who first brought up Trump's "personal Vietnam," with Trump
repeating the line.

In a 2019 interview with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos, Stern recalled
his 1997 conversation with Trump, acknowledging that it was a tongue-in-
cheek, "joking scenario," not meant to imply that Trump was seriously
comparing his experiences to those of Vietnam veterans. The reference is at
the 1 minute, 30-second mark of the interview:

Trump, now 78, is running for another shot at the presidency in the
November 2024 election. Although he did not serve in the military, Trump
was of age during the Vietnam War era when males 18 and older were eligible
for the draft. He obtained four student draft deferments while attending
college, and was later disqualified from serving, except in a time of war
or national emergency, due to bone spurs in both heels. We confirmed
Trump's deferment history via Selective Service records obtained from the
U.S. National Archives by The Smoking Gun in 2011.

Snopes has previously reported on interviews conducted by Stern, including
fact-checking his recent interview with President Joe Biden, and Trump's
admission to Stern that he entered changing rooms of beauty pageant
contestants.
Sources:

- YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqJ2kCszGZc. Accessed 12 Aug.
2024.

---. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZCAupYSINI. Accessed 12 Aug. 2024.

"Donald Trump." Howard Stern, 2 Dec. 1997.

"---." Howard Stern, 2 Dec. 1997.

"Donald Trump Calls Avoiding STDs His 'Personal Vietnam.'" Peoplemag,
https://people.com/politics/trump-boasted-of-avoiding-stds-while-dating-
vaginas-are-landmines-it-was-my-personal-vietnam/. Accessed 12 Aug. 2024.

Donald Trump on the Howard Stern Show (January 11, 1993).
https://www.trumponstern.com/episode/auto-draft-32/. Accessed 12 Aug. 2024.

Kaczynski, Andrew. "Trump, Comparing Sex to Vietnam, Said in 1998 He Should
Receive the Congressional Medal of Honor." CNNMoney, 14 Oct. 2016,
https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/14/media/trump-stern-vietnam-stds/index.html.

---. "Trump, Comparing Sex to Vietnam, Said in 1998 He Should Receive the
Congressional Medal of Honor." CNNMoney, 14 Oct. 2016,
https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/14/media/trump-stern-vietnam-stds/index.html.

Kaczynski, Nathan McDermott, Andrew. "Trump In 1993 On Dating And STDs:
'The Equivalent Of A Soldier Going Over To Vietnam.'" BuzzFeed News, 28
Apr. 2016, https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/natemcdermott/trump-in-
1993-the-dating-scene-is-like-vietnam.

Krause, Alan. "Trump Dishonors the Military." Wednesday Journal, 9 July
2024, http://www.oakpark.com/2024/07/09/trump-dishonors-the-military/.

News, A. B. C. "Radio Legend Howard Stern Recalls Interviewing Trump:
'There Was No Filter.'" ABC News, https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/radio-
legend-howard-stern-recalls-interviewing-trump-filter/story?id=62993823.
Accessed 9 Aug. 2024.

@RonBrownstein. X, 7 Aug. 2024,
https://x.com/RonBrownstein/status/1821209176363634725.

Stern, Howard. Howard Stern Comes Again. Simon and Schuster, 2019.

Tsintziras, Aya. "Donald Trump Revealed Truths About His Dating Life During
Scandalous Interviews With Howard Stern." TheThings, 3 Apr. 2024,
https://www.thethings.com/donald-trumps-dating-scandal-howard-stern-
interviews/.

"X.Com." X (Formerly Twitter),
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1821715557395071238. Accessed 12 Aug. 2024.

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Johnnie Ward/Sherburne County Jail

A St. Paul man with a lengthy criminal history and multiple felony convictions has pleaded guilty in federal court to the armed robbery of a St. Paul cellphone store, announced U.S. Attorney Andrew Luger on Friday.

Court documents say that on April 5, 2024, Johnnie Ward, Jr., 30, walked into a cellphone store in St. Paul, with an accomplice who was carrying a torch lighter, which the store clerk originally thought was a gun. While the accomplice pointed the weapon at the store clerk, Ward demanded access to the safe in the back storage room, telling his victim to “hurry up or else.” Ward and his accomplice ultimately fled the store with several cellphones.

The robbery was similar to another St. Paul phone store robbery that occurred about two weeks prior, in which Ward had been identified as the robber in that incident.

Ward was arrested the following day after the April robbery after a woman who had a domestic abuse no contact order (DANCO) against Ward called the police. Ward fled into her house after being told he was under arrest.

A warrant was eventually executed on the residence, where law enforcement located phones that were identified as taken in the April 5 robbery. Ten of the phones in their boxes were found in a heat vent, another seven phones were found in their boxes under the bed. Clothing Ward had worn in the March robbery was also located at the residence.

Ward’s prior felony convictions include criminal damage to property, two for threats of violence, and a DANCO violation.

Court documents state that Ward committed the April robbery while pending trial in three separate cases on charges of first-degree burglary, attempted kidnapping, motor vehicle theft, threats of violence, attempted robbery, and violation of a DANCO, all in Ramsey County.

Other court records show Ward has another active case on a charge of fifth-degree criminal sexual conduct for exposing himself in front of a 13-year-old girl. Ward also resisted arrest and was wearing an ankle monitor at the time of his arrest in that case on March 13, 2024, charges say.

Ward pleaded guilty in the April robbery on Thursday in U.S. District Court before Judge Susan Richard Nelson to one count of Hobbs Act Robbery. A sentencing hearing has been scheduled for Jan. 28, 2025.

The case was the result of an investigation conducted by the FBI and the St. Paul Police Department.

https://alphanews.org/st-paul-felon-pleads-guilty-to-armed-robbery-of-a-cellphone-store/

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Davoren Lanell Broussard

(ABC 6 News) – A Rochester man faces rape and firearm assault charges in Olmsted County Court.

According to court documents, Rochester police responded to an assault call in northwest Rochester on Thursday, July 4, after a woman allegedly said Davoren Lanell Broussard had threatened to kill her, and would “start shooting if he saw officers.”

Police located the woman and noted that she had several visible injuries, according to court documents.

The woman detailed physical and sexual assault, as well as an incident where Broussard allegedly put a gun to her head and pulled the trigger.

According to court documents, Broussard was previously convicted of felony threats of violence, and may not own or carry a firearm.

Court documents allege that police located a firearm scope cap, ammunition, and a “white powdery substance” at his residence.

Broussard was charged Friday with 1st-degree criminal sexual conduct–armed with a dangerous weapon and 2nd-degree assault with a dangerous weapon, as well as felon in possession of a firearm/ammunition.

He is held in the Olmsted County Adult Detention Center on $300,000 bail with conditions, or $500,000 bail with no conditions.

https://www.kaaltv.com/news/rochester-man-appears-on-rape-assault-charges/

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