On 6/10/2024 10:29 AM, CaLaVeRa wrote:
> On 6/10/2024 12:36 AM, Government Sanctioned Assault On Males wrote:
>> A Seattle-area city has voted against raising the so-called Pride Flag
>> during June, which has become de facto holiday for the LGBTQ
>> community. The
>> Newcastle, Washington, city council voted 4-3 against a motion from
>> council
>> member Paul Charbonneau to raise the flag.
>>
>> Mayor Robert Clark asserted that the city already flies the “most
>> unifying
>> symbol in the history of the world” — the American Flag. Clark said
>> that, as
>> a rule, the city does not do proclamations of any kind.
>>
>> “I brought forward the motion because raising the Pride flag is an easy
>> thing for us to do as a local government to show the LGBTQIA+
>> community that
>> we see them and that we value them,” said Charbonneau. “Many groups have
>> been historically underrepresented in local government, including the
>> LGBTQIA+ community, and raising the flag as we have in past years
>> shows them
>> that their government cares about them and invites them to engage with
>> us.”
>>
>> But it’s an unnecessary and potentially divisive measure, according to
>> the
>> mayor.
>>
>> “Proclamation says a city directs the people to honor, respect, or
>> support a
>> certain thing or item,” Clark said. “Well, what if the people in the
>> community don’t do that? If we say you have to support this because we
>> proclaimed it, but certain people in the community say no.”
>>
>> “The most unifying symbol in the history of the world flies over this
>> city
>> council every day,” Clark offered. “That’s the American flag. That’s
>> diverse
>> enough for me. That includes everybody in the community.”
>>
>> Clark further pointed out that raising the flag of one group opens up
>> Pandora’s Box when it comes to city recognition of alternative groups.
>>
>> “If we start raising flags, then we’ve got to raise everybody’s. Do
>> you want
>> a Hamas flag flying over the City of Newcastle? Or a MAGA flag. How
>> about a
>> Trump flag or an Antifa flag?” Clark asked. “We’re not going there
>> folks,”
>>
>> According to council member Sun Burford, who voted the raise the Pride
>> Flag,
>> the decision marks a move backward for the city.
>>
>> “This decision, made despite the flag being flown for over four years,
>> is a
>> step backward for our community,” Burford told KOMO News. “The intolerant
>> comments made by some council members are alarming and anachronistic. Our
>> community deserves better. We deserve leaders who embrace inclusivity,
>> diversity, and acceptance. I urge our council to reconsider the
>> decision and
>> show our support for the LGBTQ+ community.”
>>
>> Clark further explained his stance against the “Pride” flag in a written
>> statement.
>>
>> “My position is that government should be very limited. The First
>> Amendment
>> was created for a reason. To allow freedom of assembly, speech, and
>> religion,” the mayor explained. “The government has no right to tell
>> people
>> what to say, what to think, or what to do.”
>>
>> “Raising a flag or issuing a statement says this is what the government
>> believes, and since the government represents all the people the clear
>> inference is that everyone in the community also believes it. This is
>> false
>> on every issue, no matter how harmless,” Clark contended.
>>
>> One Pride adherent, Corrinalyn Guyette, was particularly incensed that
>> Clark
>> lumped the Pride movement in with Hamas.
>>
>> “He [the mayor] referenced and compared the Pride flag to the Hamas flag.
>> That comparison is outrageous. That’s just icing on the cake, for the
>> community to just stand back and say, ‘How could he of even made that
>> statement?’”
>>
>>
>> A protest against the city council’s decision is scheduled for June 18,
>> where proponents will gather in their “rainbow, colorful glory.”
>>
>> https://thenewamerican.com/us/culture/washington-city-says-no-to-raising-
>> pride-flag/
>>
>
> GOD BLESS NEWCASTLE!

Good for them! All it takes is the guts to stand up and say no to this
stupid gay silliness.

"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:

>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>regret-changing-genders/

Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
transitions' success.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:

>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>
>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>regret-changing-genders/
>
>
>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>transitions' success.

It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.

For life.

>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>regret-changing-genders/

Trump's daughter had this surgery.

They call it 'Barron' now.

The most woke of 'em all.

Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
wrote:
>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>
>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>
>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>transitions' success.
>
>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>
>For life.

That's authoritarian.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote in message
news:lnsB1F1B9F5630EB6F089P2473@0.0.0.1...
> https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
> regret-changing-genders/
>
> "I was failed by the system. I literally lost organs."

You got exactly what you demanded....

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>
>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>transitions' success.
>>
>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>
>>For life.
>
>
> That's authoritarian.

And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?

If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.

[Default] "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> typed:

>
>
>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>
>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>transitions' success.
>>>
>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>
>>>For life.
>>
>>
>> That's authoritarian.
>
>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>
>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.

He thinks there should be no authority that stops him from molesting
children.

"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>
>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>transitions' success.
>>>
>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>
>>>For life.
>>
>> That's authoritarian.
>
>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>
>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.

No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>
>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>transitions' success.
>>>>
>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>
>>>>For life.
>>>
>>> That's authoritarian.
>>
>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>
>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>
>
> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>
Been to N. Korea lately?
How about China?

--
pothead
Kamala Harris Word Salad Special Of The Day
Served Complete With Venn Diagram Dressing

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>>transitions' success.
>>>>>
>>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>>
>>>>>For life.
>>>>
>>>> That's authoritarian.
>>>
>>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>>
>>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>>
>> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>>
>Been to N. Korea lately?
>How about China?

I'm not talking about those countries.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 9/19/2024 11:57 AM, Joel wrote:
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> [Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>> "Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>>> regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>>> detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>>> transitions' success.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>>>> imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For life.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's authoritarian.
>>>>
>>>> And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>>>
>>>> If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>>>
>>> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>>>
>> Been to N. Korea lately?
>> How about China?
>
>
> I'm not talking about those countries.

Yeah you're talking about the currently Democrat ruined USA.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 13:15:39 -0000 (UTC), Gradin <X@Y.com> wrote:

>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>regret-changing-genders/
>
>Trump's daughter had this surgery.
>
>They call it 'Barron' now.
>
>The most woke of 'em all.

His first wife was a trans as well. She used to be a Greek dock worker.

Trump claims that, "it's easier to grab 'em by the pussy if it has a handle on
it."

--
Donald Trump left office with the lowest approval ratings
of any President ever. Here are 75 of the reasons why, but,
honestly, there's so much more! From exchanging love letters
with North Korea's brutal dictator... "We fell in love."
to publicly denigrating a Gold Star military widow and making her cry,
to the way he attacked journalists, to late night tweet binges (Cofeve!).
Look, I can understand why a lot of people want to block all of
this out of their memories, but we cannot afford to forget
just how terrible Trump’s time at the White House was for this nation.
And we sure as hell can’t afford to put him back there.

So, in no particular order:

(coming soon)

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eoqoejprelao7tnol4hmhln095sild95ud@4ax.com...
> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>
>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>transitions' success.
>>>>
>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>
>>>>For life.
>>>
>>> That's authoritarian.
>>
>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>
>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>
>
> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.

Better check the law, because you can be thrown in jail for that.

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4vsoejdgooggn2eq9605utleva0n54jphl@4ax.com...
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>>>transitions' success.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For life.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's authoritarian.
>>>>
>>>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>>>
>>>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>>>
>>> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>>>
>>Been to N. Korea lately?
>>How about China?
>
>
> I'm not talking about those countries.

I see, so you're cherry picking only examples that support your claims.

that's dishonest.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:36:02 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>
>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4vsoejdgooggn2eq9605utleva0n54jphl@4ax.com...
>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>>>>transitions' success.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>For life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's authoritarian.
>>>>>
>>>>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>>>>
>>>>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>>>>
>>>> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>>>>
>>>Been to N. Korea lately?
>>>How about China?
>>
>>
>> I'm not talking about those countries.
>
>I see, so you're cherry picking only examples that support your claims.
>
>that's dishonest.
>

His conversation was about the United States. Pothead tried to change the
subject.

Fail.

Cops are people too
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QBltXF30X6U>

--
So, in no particular order:
01) Trump fueled division and sparked record numbers of hate crimes such as Charlottesville and supporters beating a homeless man.
02) Murder went way up under Trump. He presided over the largest ever single year increase in homicides in 2020.

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ot6rejt7c7vndt4c88p7lra7kjef2ipsgl@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:36:02 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:4vsoejdgooggn2eq9605utleva0n54jphl@4ax.com...
>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>>>>>transitions' success.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>>>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's authoritarian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>>>>>
>>>>> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>>>>>
>>>>Been to N. Korea lately?
>>>>How about China?
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not talking about those countries.
>>
>>I see, so you're cherry picking only examples that support your claims.
>>
>>that's dishonest.
>>
>
> His conversation was about the United States. Pothead tried to change the
> subject.

No, he claimed that no one can be required to do a job they don't wish to
do... I pointed to examples that refuted his claims.

He tried to assert they didn't count.

Meanwhile I can point to people who were jailed, as in thrown in prison,
because they didn't do a job because they apparently decided they didn't
want to.

Now, Swill, are you really sure you want to stick up for the fool known as
Joel?

On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 13:42:44 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>
>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ot6rejt7c7vndt4c88p7lra7kjef2ipsgl@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:36:02 -0500, "Scout"
>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4vsoejdgooggn2eq9605utleva0n54jphl@4ax.com...
>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>>On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>>>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>>>>>>transitions' success.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>>>>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>For life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's authoritarian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Been to N. Korea lately?
>>>>>How about China?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not talking about those countries.
>>>
>>>I see, so you're cherry picking only examples that support your claims.
>>>
>>>that's dishonest.
>>>
>>
>> His conversation was about the United States. Pothead tried to change the
>> subject.
>
>No, he claimed that no one can be required to do a job they don't wish to
>do... I pointed to examples that refuted his claims.

While deliberately misunderstanding that the conversation wasn't global.

>He tried to assert they didn't count.

And they didn't.

>Meanwhile I can point to people who were jailed, as in thrown in prison,
>because they didn't do a job because they apparently decided they didn't
>want to.

Americans? Go ahead. Give us some examples, Mr Pedantic.

>Now, Swill, are you really sure you want to stick up for the fool known as
>Joel?

Are you really sure you want to keep making a fool of yourself?

You just want to fight. You don't care with whom or about what or even if you
have to make something up to get it done. You're just an asshole with a chip on
his shoulder.

....................../´¯/)
....................,/¯../
.................../..../
............./´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸
........../'/.../..../......./¨¯\
........('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...')
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..........''...\.......... _.·´
............\..............(
..............\.............\...

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 43 days.

07) Trump extreme conservative judicial appointments.
1 in 3 American women now live in a state with an abortion ban.
08) One of Trump's SCOTUS nominees, Bret Kavanaugh, was
accused of sexual assault by multiple women.
The only other SCOTUS justice to be so accused was
Clarence Thomas, also a noted conservative.

Governor Swill wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 13:42:44 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> You just want to fight. You don't care with whom or about what or even if you
> have to make something up to get it done. You're just an asshole with a chip on
> his shoulder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9h4ODtFaS8

Soft Cell "Chips on My Shoulder"

> Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 43 days.
>
> 07) Trump extreme conservative judicial appointments.
> 1 in 3 American women now live in a state with an abortion ban.
> 08) One of Trump's SCOTUS nominees, Bret Kavanaugh, was
> accused of sexual assault by multiple women.
> The only other SCOTUS justice to be so accused was
> Clarence Thomas, also a noted conservative.

--
A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly.
If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space.
-- Thomas Carlyle, looking at the stars

On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 13:42:44 -0500, "Scout"
<me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:

>
>
>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ot6rejt7c7vndt4c88p7lra7kjef2ipsgl@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:36:02 -0500, "Scout"
>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4vsoejdgooggn2eq9605utleva0n54jphl@4ax.com...
>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>>On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>>>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>>>>>>transitions' success.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process and
>>>>>>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>For life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's authoritarian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Been to N. Korea lately?
>>>>>How about China?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not talking about those countries.
>>>
>>>I see, so you're cherry picking only examples that support your claims.
>>>
>>>that's dishonest.
>>>
>>
>> His conversation was about the United States. Pothead tried to change the
>> subject.
>
>No, he claimed that no one can be required to do a job they don't wish to
>do... I pointed to examples that refuted his claims.
>
>He tried to assert they didn't count.
>
>Meanwhile I can point to people who were jailed, as in thrown in prison,
>because they didn't do a job because they apparently decided they didn't
>want to.
>
>Now, Swill, are you really sure you want to stick up for the fool known as
>Joel?
>

Given that Swilly is about as bad as Joel I suspect that he will.

"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8fg3fjpat79l4ndeefb4vuchllvt09q155@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 13:42:44 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:ot6rejt7c7vndt4c88p7lra7kjef2ipsgl@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:36:02 -0500, "Scout"
>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:4vsoejdgooggn2eq9605utleva0n54jphl@4ax.com...
>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergentöter.@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-why-they-
>>>>>>>>>>>>regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people who
>>>>>>>>>>>detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data on
>>>>>>>>>>>transitions' success.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous process
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>For life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's authoritarian.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do so?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Been to N. Korea lately?
>>>>>>How about China?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not talking about those countries.
>>>>
>>>>I see, so you're cherry picking only examples that support your claims.
>>>>
>>>>that's dishonest.
>>>>
>>>
>>> His conversation was about the United States. Pothead tried to change
>>> the
>>> subject.
>>
>>No, he claimed that no one can be required to do a job they don't wish to
>>do... I pointed to examples that refuted his claims.
>
> While deliberately misunderstanding that the conversation wasn't global.

How can it not be global when the issue is authoritarianism? Are you saying
that only occurs in the US?

Further people can indeed be required to do a job.

Ever hear of "community service"?

Seems to me that happens in the US.

>
>>He tried to assert they didn't count.
>
> And they didn't.

Except they do,

>>Meanwhile I can point to people who were jailed, as in thrown in prison,
>>because they didn't do a job because they apparently decided they didn't
>>want to.
>
> Americans? Go ahead. Give us some examples, Mr Pedantic.

"What happens if you don't complete community service in California?
Failure to complete the hours as ordered may result in the issuance of a
warrant for your arrest."

https://www.saccourt.ca.gov/criminal/alternative-sentencing.aspx

"Los Angeles courts force roughly 100,000 people to do weeks and even months
of "community service" each year"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/16/los-angeles-labor-community-service-courts-ucla

Point. Set. Match.

>>Now, Swill, are you really sure you want to stick up for the fool known as
>>Joel?
>
> Are you really sure you want to keep making a fool of yourself?

I'll take that to mean "yes, you are".

NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 13:42:44 -0500, "Scout"
><me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:ot6rejt7c7vndt4c88p7lra7kjef2ipsgl@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:36:02 -0500, "Scout"
>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:4vsoejdgooggn2eq9605utleva0n54jphl@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not talking about those countries.
>>>>
>>>>I see, so you're cherry picking only examples that support your claims.
>>>>
>>>>that's dishonest.
>>>
>>> His conversation was about the United States. Pothead tried to change the
>>> subject.
>>
>>No, he claimed that no one can be required to do a job they don't wish to
>>do... I pointed to examples that refuted his claims.
>>
>>He tried to assert they didn't count.
>>
>>Meanwhile I can point to people who were jailed, as in thrown in prison,
>>because they didn't do a job because they apparently decided they didn't
>>want to.
>>
>>Now, Swill, are you really sure you want to stick up for the fool known as
>>Joel?
>
>Given that Swilly is about as bad as Joel I suspect that he will.

<yawn>

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

I need to return this chain saw.

Was there a problem with it?

Yeah, I bought it to trim a tree but it turns out the tree is too thick.

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 43 days.

09) Trump's White House interfered with the FBI investigation
into Kavanaugh's sexual assaults.
10) Trump is a felon, convicted on 34 counts of business fraud.

Governor Swill wrote:
> Was there a problem with it?

It's a little man Ball thing...

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
prev | next
(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

"Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote in
news:vcuij0$380pa$9@dont-email.me:

>
>
> "Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8fg3fjpat79l4ndeefb4vuchllvt09q155@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 13:42:44 -0500, "Scout"
>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Governor Swill" <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:ot6rejt7c7vndt4c88p7lra7kjef2ipsgl@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:36:02 -0500, "Scout"
>>>> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:4vsoejdgooggn2eq9605utleva0n54jphl@4ax.com...
>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>On 2024-09-19, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Scout" <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:3jhoej9o8691jk40vfkdh21kn06j388j1l@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>>>>>>>> <klaus.schadenfreude.Zwergent�ter.@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>[Default] Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> typed:
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Leroy N. Soetoro" <democrat-insurrection@mail.house.gov>
>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>https://nypost.com/2022/06/18/detransitioned-teens-explain-w
>>>>>>>>>>>>>hy-they- regret-changing-genders/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Spoiler alert, this is hysterical cherry-picking of people
>>>>>>>>>>>>who detransitioned, it's not related to the meaningful data
>>>>>>>>>>>>on transitions' success.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It illustrates exactly why we should outlaw this hideous
>>>>>>>>>>>process and
>>>>>>>>>>>imprison any doctors and nurses who perform it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>For life.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's authoritarian.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And yet you have no problems with authority REQUIRING they do
>>>>>>>>>so?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If one is authoritarianism.. then so is the other.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one can be required to do a job they don't wish to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Been to N. Korea lately?
>>>>>>>How about China?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not talking about those countries.
>>>>>
>>>>>I see, so you're cherry picking only examples that support your
>>>>>claims.
>>>>>
>>>>>that's dishonest.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> His conversation was about the United States. Pothead tried to
>>>> change the
>>>> subject.
>>>
>>>No, he claimed that no one can be required to do a job they don't
>>>wish to do... I pointed to examples that refuted his claims.
>>
>> While deliberately misunderstanding that the conversation wasn't
>> global.
>
> How can it not be global when the issue is authoritarianism? Are you
> saying that only occurs in the US?
>
> Further people can indeed be required to do a job.
>
> Ever hear of "community service"?

No one is forced to do
community service. It is an
option people choose.