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Subject: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
From: Blaming Trump
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WASHINGTON � One week after Election Day, control of the U.S. House
rests on just over a dozen races where winners have not yet been
determined.

Nine states have at least one uncalled House race, some of which are so
close they are headed to a recount.

Then there�s California. About half of the yet-to-be-decided House races
are in the state, which has only counted about three-quarters of its
votes statewide.

This isn�t unusual or unexpected, as the nation�s most populous state is
consistently among the slowest to report all its election results.
Compare it to a state like Florida, the third-largest, which finished
counting its votes four days after Election Day.

RELATED: How many ballots are left to be counted in California?

The same was true four years ago, when Florida reported the results of
nearly 99% of ballots cast within a few hours of polls closing. In
California, almost one-third of ballots were uncounted after election
night, and the state was making almost daily updates to its count
through Dec. 3, a full month after Election Day.

These differences in how states count � and how long it takes � exist
because the Constitution sets out broad principles for electing a
national government, but leaves the details to the states. The choices
made by state lawmakers and election officials as they sort out those
details affect everything from how voters cast a ballot to how quickly
the tabulation and release of results takes place, how elections are
kept secure and how officials maintain voters� confidence in the
process.

The gap between when California and Florida are able to finalize their
count is the natural result of election officials in the two states
choosing to emphasize different concerns and set different priorities.
Here�s a look at the differences:

How California counts
Lawmakers in California designed their elections to improve
accessibility and increase turnout. Whether it�s automatically receiving
a ballot at home, having up until Election Day to turn it in or having
several days to address any problems that may arise with their ballot,
Californians have a lot of time and opportunity to vote. It comes at the
expense of knowing the final vote counts soon after polls close.

RELATED: Prop 6: Voters reject measure to ban forced prison labor

�Our priority is trying to maximize participation of actively registered
voters,� said Democratic Assemblymember Marc Berman, who authored the
2021 bill that permanently switched the state to all-mail elections.
�What that means is things are a little slower. But in a society that
wants immediate gratification, I think our democracy is worth taking a
little time to get it right and to create a system where everyone can
participate.�

California, which has long had a culture of voting absentee, started
moving toward all-mail elections last decade. All-mail systems will
almost always prolong the count. Mail ballots require additional
verification steps � each must be opened individually, validated and
processed � so they can take longer to tabulate than ballots cast in
person that are then fed into a scanner at a neighborhood polling place.

In 2016, California passed a bill allowing counties to opt in to all-
mail elections before instituting it statewide on a temporary basis in
2020 and enshrining it in law in time for the 2022 elections.

Studies found that the earliest states to institute all-mail elections �
Oregon and Washington � saw higher turnout. Mail ballots also increase
the likelihood of a voter casting a complete ballot, according to
Melissa Michelson, a political scientist and dean at California�s Menlo
College who has written on voter mobilization.

In recent years, the thousands of California voters who drop off their
mail ballots on Election Day created a bottleneck on election night. In
the past five general elections, California has tabulated an average of
38% of its vote after Election Day. Two years ago, in the 2022 midterm
elections, half the state�s votes were counted after Election Day.
Slower counts have come alongside later mail ballot deadlines. In 2015,
California implemented its first postmark deadline, meaning that the
state can count mail ballots that arrive after Election Day as long as
the Postal Service receives the ballot by Election Day. Berman said the
postmark deadline allows the state to treat the mailbox as a drop box in
order to avoid punishing voters who cast their ballots properly but are
affected by postal delays.

Initially, the law said ballots that arrived within three days of the
election would be considered cast in time. This year, ballots may arrive
up to a week after Election Day, so California won�t know how many
ballots have been cast until Nov. 12. This deadline means that
California will be counting ballots at least through that week because
ballots arriving up to that point might still be valid and be added to
the count.

How Florida counts
Florida�s election system is geared toward quick and efficient
tabulation. Coming out of its disastrous 2000 presidential election,
when the U.S. Supreme Court settled a recount dispute and George W. Bush
was declared the winner in the state over Al Gore, the state moved to
standardize its election systems and clean up its canvass, or the
process of confirming votes cast and counted.

Republican Rep. Bill Posey, who as state senator was the sponsor of the
Florida Election Reform Act of 2001, said the two goals of the law � to
count all legal votes and to ensure voters are confident their votes are
counted � were accomplished by mandating optical ballot scanners in
every precinct. That �most significant� change means no more �hanging
chads� in Florida. The scanners read and aggregate results from paper
ballots, immediately spitting back any that contain mistakes.

Florida�s deadlines are set to avoid having ballots arrive any later
than when officials press �go� on the tabulator machines. The state has
a receipt deadline for its absentee ballots, which means ballots that do
not arrive by 7 p.m. local time on Election Day are not counted,
regardless of when they were mailed.

Michael T. Morley, a professor of election law at Florida State
University College of Law, pointed out that Florida election officials
may begin processing ballots, but not actually count them, before polls
close. That helps speed up the process, especially compared with states
that don�t allow officials to process mail ballots before Election Day.

�They can determine the validity of ballots, confirm they should be
counted and run them through machines,� Morley said. �They just can�t
press the tally button.�

Florida takes steps to avoid a protracted back-and-forth on potentially
problematic ballots. At the precinct, optical scanners catch some
problems, such as a voter selecting too many candidates, that can be
fixed on-site. Also, any voter who�s returned a mail ballot with a
mismatched or missing signature has until 5 p.m. two days after the
election to submit an affidavit fixing it. California gives voters up to
four weeks after the election to address such inconsistencies.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/

Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
From: Siri Cruise
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Blaming Trump wrote:
> RELATED: How many ballots are left to be counted in California?

https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/

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Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
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Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
From: Siri Cruise
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Yak wrote:
>> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
>>
>> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/
>
>
> Why? Because they are populated by retards like Jon Ball and Siri.

Why must votes be counted faster?

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Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
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Blaming Trump wrote:
> WASHINGTON — One week after Election Day, control of the U.S. House
> rests on just over a dozen races where winners have not yet been
> determined.
>
> Nine states have at least one uncalled House race, some of which are so
> close they are headed to a recount.
>
> Then there’s California. About half of the yet-to-be-decided House races
> are in the state, which has only counted about three-quarters of its
> votes statewide.
>
> This isn’t unusual or unexpected, as the nation’s most populous state is
> consistently among the slowest to report all its election results.
> Compare it to a state like Florida, the third-largest, which finished
> counting its votes four days after Election Day.
>
> RELATED: How many ballots are left to be counted in California?
>
> The same was true four years ago, when Florida reported the results of
> nearly 99% of ballots cast within a few hours of polls closing. In
> California, almost one-third of ballots were uncounted after election
> night, and the state was making almost daily updates to its count
> through Dec. 3, a full month after Election Day.
>
> These differences in how states count — and how long it takes — exist
> because the Constitution sets out broad principles for electing a
> national government, but leaves the details to the states. The choices
> made by state lawmakers and election officials as they sort out those
> details affect everything from how voters cast a ballot to how quickly
> the tabulation and release of results takes place, how elections are
> kept secure and how officials maintain voters’ confidence in the
> process.
>
> The gap between when California and Florida are able to finalize their
> count is the natural result of election officials in the two states
> choosing to emphasize different concerns and set different priorities.
> Here’s a look at the differences:
>
> How California counts
> Lawmakers in California designed their elections to improve
> accessibility and increase turnout. Whether it’s automatically receiving
> a ballot at home, having up until Election Day to turn it in or having
> several days to address any problems that may arise with their ballot,
> Californians have a lot of time and opportunity to vote. It comes at the
> expense of knowing the final vote counts soon after polls close.
>
> RELATED: Prop 6: Voters reject measure to ban forced prison labor
>
> “Our priority is trying to maximize participation of actively registered
> voters,” said Democratic Assemblymember Marc Berman, who authored the
> 2021 bill that permanently switched the state to all-mail elections.
> “What that means is things are a little slower. But in a society that
> wants immediate gratification, I think our democracy is worth taking a
> little time to get it right and to create a system where everyone can
> participate.”
>
> California, which has long had a culture of voting absentee, started
> moving toward all-mail elections last decade. All-mail systems will
> almost always prolong the count. Mail ballots require additional
> verification steps — each must be opened individually, validated and
> processed — so they can take longer to tabulate than ballots cast in
> person that are then fed into a scanner at a neighborhood polling place.
>
> In 2016, California passed a bill allowing counties to opt in to all-
> mail elections before instituting it statewide on a temporary basis in
> 2020 and enshrining it in law in time for the 2022 elections.
>
> Studies found that the earliest states to institute all-mail elections –
> Oregon and Washington – saw higher turnout. Mail ballots also increase
> the likelihood of a voter casting a complete ballot, according to
> Melissa Michelson, a political scientist and dean at California’s Menlo
> College who has written on voter mobilization.
>
> In recent years, the thousands of California voters who drop off their
> mail ballots on Election Day created a bottleneck on election night. In
> the past five general elections, California has tabulated an average of
> 38% of its vote after Election Day. Two years ago, in the 2022 midterm
> elections, half the state’s votes were counted after Election Day.
> Slower counts have come alongside later mail ballot deadlines. In 2015,
> California implemented its first postmark deadline, meaning that the
> state can count mail ballots that arrive after Election Day as long as
> the Postal Service receives the ballot by Election Day. Berman said the
> postmark deadline allows the state to treat the mailbox as a drop box in
> order to avoid punishing voters who cast their ballots properly but are
> affected by postal delays.
>
> Initially, the law said ballots that arrived within three days of the
> election would be considered cast in time. This year, ballots may arrive
> up to a week after Election Day, so California won’t know how many
> ballots have been cast until Nov. 12. This deadline means that
> California will be counting ballots at least through that week because
> ballots arriving up to that point might still be valid and be added to
> the count.
>
> How Florida counts
> Florida’s election system is geared toward quick and efficient
> tabulation. Coming out of its disastrous 2000 presidential election,
> when the U.S. Supreme Court settled a recount dispute and George W. Bush
> was declared the winner in the state over Al Gore, the state moved to
> standardize its election systems and clean up its canvass, or the
> process of confirming votes cast and counted.
>
> Republican Rep. Bill Posey, who as state senator was the sponsor of the
> Florida Election Reform Act of 2001, said the two goals of the law — to
> count all legal votes and to ensure voters are confident their votes are
> counted — were accomplished by mandating optical ballot scanners in
> every precinct. That “most significant” change means no more “hanging
> chads” in Florida. The scanners read and aggregate results from paper
> ballots, immediately spitting back any that contain mistakes.
>
> Florida’s deadlines are set to avoid having ballots arrive any later
> than when officials press “go” on the tabulator machines. The state has
> a receipt deadline for its absentee ballots, which means ballots that do
> not arrive by 7 p.m. local time on Election Day are not counted,
> regardless of when they were mailed.
>
> Michael T. Morley, a professor of election law at Florida State
> University College of Law, pointed out that Florida election officials
> may begin processing ballots, but not actually count them, before polls
> close. That helps speed up the process, especially compared with states
> that don’t allow officials to process mail ballots before Election Day.
>
> “They can determine the validity of ballots, confirm they should be
> counted and run them through machines,” Morley said. “They just can’t
> press the tally button.”
>
> Florida takes steps to avoid a protracted back-and-forth on potentially
> problematic ballots. At the precinct, optical scanners catch some
> problems, such as a voter selecting too many candidates, that can be
> fixed on-site. Also, any voter who’s returned a mail ballot with a
> mismatched or missing signature has until 5 p.m. two days after the
> election to submit an affidavit fixing it. California gives voters up to
> four weeks after the election to address such inconsistencies.
>
> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/

Since they refuse to complete the counts in a timely manner (probably so
they can manufacture fraudulent votes for Harris and House Democrats),
California should be declared to be in a state of insurrection once Trump
is inaugurated.

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Dontay Lavarice Reese pleaded guilty to the violent August 2017 kidnapping. (The Minnesota Star Tribune)

She was stronger than him, she told her rapist when she confronted him in court.

She needed a ride home during an early morning in August 2017. She accepted one from Dontay Lavarice Reese, and then endured 12 hours of kidnap and torture until she was finally able to escape.

Two years later, she faced Reese in a federal courtroom on Tuesday after he pleaded guilty in February to kidnapping her.

"You were physically stronger than me," she said, struggling often to get the words out through tears. Nearly the entire courtroom wept with her. "But I never gave up."

The Star Tribune generally does not name sexual-assault victims.

Federal Judge Patrick Schiltz sentenced Reese to 27 years in prison, an amount agreed on in a plea deal that spared the victim from a trial. Schiltz said he wanted to give him more.

"If the parties had not reached an agreement … I would have sentenced him to much more than 324 months in prison," Schiltz said from the bench. He added: "Mr. Reese is extremely dangerous and the public needs to be protected from him."

Reese, of Burnsville, had one of the worst criminal records Schiltz said he had ever seen, noting that Reese had been convicted of 34 crimes as an adult and several as a juvenile, including an assault when he was 13. In 2003, Reese was convicted of felony criminal sexual conduct in Minnesota in a case similar to the one he was sentenced for Tuesday, in which he kidnapped a woman needing a ride home and raped her.

The woman in the courtroom knew none of that when she needed a ride home two years ago. She had been with friends, but she got separated from them and stranded in downtown Minneapolis. One had her cellphone, so she couldn't call for a ride.

Reese was with two other people when he offered her a ride, which helped her trust him. Then they took her to a party. From there they got into a rented car, where she thought she would be OK because another woman was in the car. But he drove to a motel where he dropped that woman off.

Now alone with Reese, she continued to tell him all she wanted was to go home.

Instead, he terrorized her, driving so dangerously that she feared for her life. She begged him to let her go. When they stopped at a red light she tried to jump out, but he pounded on the gas, got on a freeway and headed east to Wisconsin. He threatened to sell her into sex trafficking.

When they stopped at a gas station, she again tried to escape. But he tackled her and dragged her back into the car. Strangers saw what was happening and called 911.

Reese took her to a wooded area, tied her to a tree and raped her. She escaped and ran back to the interstate with her wrists bound, screaming for help. State troopers had been searching the area thanks to the 911 call and found her. The troopers later found and arrested Reese.

Reese represented himself during Tuesday's hearing, and expressed no remorse about that day. Reese has never expressed remorse, Schiltz said. The judge said Reese had been nothing but a problem since the charges were filed, repeatedly filing frivolous motions to delay the case or refusing to come to court.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Angela Munoz-Kaphing said the woman initially blamed herself for trusting the wrong person, as so many rape victims do.

"She did nothing wrong that day," she said. "He picked the wrong woman, because she was courageous enough to run several times."

When the woman addressed the court during sentencing, she thanked the people who called 911 that day.

"I want you to know that you saved my life. You are my angels," she told them.

After that day, the woman told the court that she cut her hair because the knots he left from grabbing it made her only think of him. But she has since grown it to the length it was before as she's worked to heal from the horror she faced.

"Today when I brushed my hair I'm not reminded of that day," she said. "Instead I am reminded of how far I've come."

"To everyone who helped me get to where I am today, thank you."

Brandon Stahl • 612-673-4626

https://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-serial-rapist-gets-27-years-in-prison/512125862

Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
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On 11/13/2024 1:33 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Yak wrote:
>>> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
>>> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/
>>
>>
>> Why? Because they are populated by retards like Jon Ball and Siri.
>
> Why must votes be counted faster?

Why in this day and age in our resource-rich society must they be
counted slower?

Need moar thyme for your election fraud to work?

Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
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On 11/13/2024 1:25 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Blaming Trump wrote:
>> RELATED: How many ballots are left to be counted in California?
>
> https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/
>

3rd world state of failure:

https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/unprocessed-ballots-status

It typically takes weeks for counties to process and count all of the
ballots. Elections officials have approximately one month to complete
their extensive tallying, auditing, and certification work (known as the
official canvass).

29
Days Left

Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
From: Siri Cruise
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clams casino wrote:
> On 11/13/2024 1:33 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> Yak wrote:
>>>> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
>>>>
>>>> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/
>>>
>>>
>>> Why? Because they are populated by retards like Jon Ball and Siri.
>>
>> Why must votes be counted faster?
>
> Why in this day and age in our resource-rich society must they be
> counted slower?
>
> Need moar thyme for your election fraud  to work?
>

The state gives itself thirty days. Congress does not convene
until January. Neither Congress nor Electoral College act until
December. Why worry?

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Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
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On 11/13/2024 12:33 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> Yak wrote:
>>> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
>>> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/
>>
>>
>> Why? Because they are populated by retards like Jon Ball and Siri.
>
> Why must votes be counted faster?

Why shouldn't they be?

The faster they are counted, the less time there is for Democrats to
"find" other ballots to benefit their candidates.

It's difficult to accept that in a district of nearly 400,000 voters
with a GOP candidate ahead at the close of polls on Nov 5, a Democrat
manages to come from behind 8 days later, and wins by less than a
thousand votes.

Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
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On 11/14/2024 11:05 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> clams casino wrote:
>> On 11/13/2024 1:33 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> Yak wrote:
>>>>> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
>>>>> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why? Because they are populated by retards like Jon Ball and Siri.
>>>
>>> Why must votes be counted faster?
>>
>> Why in this day and age in our resource-rich society must they be
>> counted slower?
>>
>> Need moar thyme for your election fraud  to work?
>>
>
> The state gives itself thirty days.

The "state" is a bloated and inefficient Kafka-esque representation of
Demotardia lived way too large, way too long - that will change soon enough.

> Congress does not convene until
> January.

Non sequitur.

> Neither Congress nor Electoral College act until December.

Non sequitur.

> Why worry?

How long would you want to wait for a pregnancy test to come back?

Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
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On 11/14/2024 12:00 PM, Peter Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On 11/13/2024 12:33 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> Yak wrote:
>>>> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
>>>> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/
>>>
>>>
>>> Why? Because they are populated by retards like Jon Ball and Siri.
>>
>> Why must votes be counted faster?
>
> Why shouldn't they be?
>
> The faster they are counted, the less time there is for Democrats to
> "find" other ballots to benefit their candidates.
>
> It's difficult to accept that in a district of nearly 400,000 voters
> with a GOP candidate ahead at the close of polls on Nov 5, a Democrat
> manages to come from behind 8 days later, and wins by less than a
> thousand votes.

The very state that claims "Silicon Valley" as its bellwether can't use
tech to speed up vote counting - amazing!

Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
From: Siri Cruise
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Peter Fitzpatrick wrote:
> On 11/13/2024 12:33 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> Yak wrote:
>>>> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
>>>>
>>>> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/
>>>
>>>
>>> Why? Because they are populated by retards like Jon Ball and Siri.
>>
>> Why must votes be counted faster?
>
> Why shouldn't they be?
>
> The faster they are counted, the less time there is for Democrats
> to "find" other ballots to benefit their candidates.

For example?

> It's difficult to accept that in a district of nearly 400,000
> voters with a GOP candidate ahead at the close of polls on Nov 5,
> a Democrat manages to come from behind 8 days later, and wins by
> less than a thousand votes.

So do not count ballots that you do not like.

Which states do this?

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Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
From: Siri Cruise
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clams casino wrote:
> On 11/14/2024 12:00 PM, Peter Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> On 11/13/2024 12:33 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> Yak wrote:
>>>>> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
>>>>>
>>>>> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why? Because they are populated by retards like Jon Ball and
>>>> Siri.
>>>
>>> Why must votes be counted faster?
>>
>> Why shouldn't they be?
>>
>> The faster they are counted, the less time there is for
>> Democrats to "find" other ballots to benefit their candidates.
>>
>> It's difficult to accept that in a district of nearly 400,000
>> voters with a GOP candidate ahead at the close of polls on Nov
>> 5, a Democrat manages to come from behind 8 days later, and wins
>> by less than a thousand votes.
>
>
> The very state that claims "Silicon Valley" as its bellwether
> can't use tech to speed up vote counting - amazing!

Most precincts are counted in a few days. The rest of the month is
for USPS delays and inevitable errors. Nobody needs to know
Electors until whenever mid-December and congressfolk until
January. Haste make waste. Why rush and risk mistakes?

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Subject: Re: Why California takes weeks to count votes, while states like Florida are faster
From: Siri Cruise
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clams casino wrote:
> On 11/14/2024 11:05 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>> clams casino wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2024 1:33 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>>> Yak wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/11/12/why-california-takes-weeks-to-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> count-votes-while-states-like-florida-are-faster/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Because they are populated by retards like Jon Ball and
>>>>> Siri.
>>>>
>>>> Why must votes be counted faster?
>>>
>>> Why in this day and age in our resource-rich society must they
>>> be counted slower?
>>>
>>> Need moar thyme for your election fraud  to work?
>>>
>>
>> The state gives itself thirty days.
>
> The "state" is a bloated and inefficient Kafka-esque
> representation of Demotardia lived way too large, way too long -
> that will change soon enough.
>
>
>> Congress does not convene until January.
>
> Non sequitur.
>
>> Neither Congress nor Electoral College act until December.
>
> Non sequitur.
>
>> Why worry?
>
> How long would you want to wait for a pregnancy test to come back?
>

Patience is a virtue. Abortion is not time limitted.

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Subject: Indiana black man raped teen visiting Michael Jackson house: Docs
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GARY, Ind. — An Indiana man allegedly kidnapped and raped a 16-year-old girl who was visiting Michael Jackson’s boyhood home with her father.

Oasia Barnes is facing 17 charges, including rape, kidnapping, criminal confinement and more following the alleged series of incidents Friday.

According to court documents, a 16-year-old girl was visiting Michael Jackson’s childhood home, located in the 2300 block of Jackson Street, with her father when a man, later identified as Oasia Barnes, allegedly approached and put a gun into the girl’s ribs.

Authorities allege Barnes demanded money and the father gave him around $300 in cash.

He then forced the father to drive his vehicle with his daughter and Barnes in the backseat. Barnes allegedly told the father he was going to “blow (the girl’s) brains out” if he didn’t comply.

The father told police he repeatedly told Barnes to stop and he allegedly threatened to shoot both of them if they didn’t comply.

The father was directed to drive into an alley at the rear of an abandoned house. He later told police after Barnes and the girl got out of the vehicle, he considered trying to run him over — but was worried he would also strike his daughter.

The teen told police Barnes allegedly forced her to perform oral sex at gunpoint in the abandoned house before grabbing her by the arm to move locations.

Court documents state Barnes told her she would be his girlfriend and instructed her to tell him she loved him. Barnes allegedly didn’t believe her and threatened to shoot her toes off “one-by-one until it sounded like she meant it.”

The girl told police that she was forced to walk around a nearby neighborhood and Barnes was telling people she was his new girlfriend.

She was then taken to a home on Washington Street after seeing a helicopter. They remained in a basement stairwell until police located them, according to documents.

A handgun was located on Barnes at the time of his arrest.

Barnes is being held without bail until Aug. 27 and then a $220,000 bond will be applied, according to records.

The National Sexual Assault Hotline is 1-800-656-4673.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/midwest/indiana-man-raped-teen-visiting-michael-jackson-house-docs/

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