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* Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCKJohn Smyth
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Subject: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
From: John Smyth
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Feeling the pain yet?
Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
joy joy".
I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
payment.

<https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-rises-september-food-prices-surge/>

Since Kamala took office:

Gas: +38.2%
Electricity: +31.3%
Fuel oil: +37.4%
Airfare: +24.5%
Hotels: +42.4%
Groceries: +22.1%
Eggs: +69.2%
Baby food: +31%
K-12 food: +69.7%
Rent: +22.9%
Transportation: +31.1%
Car insurance: +56.5%
Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
From: Mitchell Holman
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Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:2vhggjdsigoj1oj6ql54j2otdis5mmvo5r@4ax.com:

> Feeling the pain yet?
> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
> joy joy".
> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
> payment.
>
> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-ris
> es-september-food-prices-surge/>
>
>
> Since Kamala took office:
>
> Gas: +38.2%
> Electricity: +31.3%
> Fuel oil: +37.4%
> Airfare: +24.5%
> Hotels: +42.4%
> Groceries: +22.1%
> Eggs: +69.2%
> Baby food: +31%
> K-12 food: +69.7%
> Rent: +22.9%
> Transportation: +31.1%
> Car insurance: +56.5%
> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>

Post-Covid inflation spiked
ALL OVER THE WORLD. The US got
off easy.

Country........Inflation Rate

Canada............6.9
Australia.........7.1
United States.....7.7
Mexico............8.41
Germany...........10.4
Europe............10.6
United Kingdom....11.1
Italy.............11.8
Russia............12.6
Netherlands.......14.3
Turkey............85.51

https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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On 2024-10-11 13:33:21 +0000, Mitchell Holman said:

> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:2vhggjdsigoj1oj6ql54j2otdis5mmvo5r@4ax.com:
>
>> Feeling the pain yet?
>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>> joy joy".
>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>> payment.
>>
>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-ris
>> es-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>>
>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>> Gas: +38.2%
>> Electricity: +31.3%
>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>> Airfare: +24.5%
>> Hotels: +42.4%
>> Groceries: +22.1%
>> Eggs: +69.2%
>> Baby food: +31%
>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>> Rent: +22.9%
>> Transportation: +31.1%
>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>
>
> Post-Covid inflation spiked
> ALL OVER THE WORLD. The US got
> off easy.

Those Grateway Pundit numbers are bogus anyway. Sure things spiked (due
to Trump's mismanagement of COVID) but not that much or they've since
cooled considerably.

> Country........Inflation Rate
>
> Canada............6.9
> Australia.........7.1
> United States.....7.7
> Mexico............8.41
> Germany...........10.4
> Europe............10.6
> United Kingdom....11.1
> Italy.............11.8
> Russia............12.6
> Netherlands.......14.3

> Turkey............85.51

Soon the US will look like this if it elects its own version of
strongman Erdogan...

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/turkey-impose-40-additional-tariff-vehicle-imports-china-2024-06-08/

Turkey imposes 40% tariff on vehicle imports from China - Reuters

https://taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/what-trumps-100-percent-auto-tariff-would-mean-us-economy

What Trump's 100 Percent Auto Tariff Would Mean For The US...

> https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/inflation-rate

Subject: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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><https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-rises-
>september-food-prices-surge/>

I like the part where they say she asked God for the two big hurricanes and
later prayed again for those 30 tornados. Trump should pick up on this and
remind everybody that it's not global warming but instead it's her casting
spells against him and his supporters.

Wait 'til that gets out. She sure hates Florida man.

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers ROCK!
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On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
> [bullshit]

By just about every measure, the U.S. economy is in good shape. Growth is
strong. Unemployment is low. Inflation is back down. More important, many
Americans are getting sizable pay raises, and middle-class wealth has surged to
record levels. We are living through one of the best economic years of many
people’s lifetimes. Yet it’s barely mentioned in popular culture or on the
campaign trail.

Polarization in the United States makes it difficult to talk about any truth,
even about the economy. Last Friday’s jobs report surpassed all expectations. As
soon as it came out, Republicans such as Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida tried
calling it fake. In reality, even if the report is later revised down, it will
still show an economy that is humming along. And consider the bigger picture:
The United States has nearly 7 million more jobs than it did before the
pandemic, and the largest share of 25-to-54-year-olds working since 2001. Many
experts didn’t think it even possible for the labor market to become this robust
again. Some theories considered Americans too addicted to video games or drugs,
or simply too lazy to work. The jobs rebound has proved the experts wrong.

The story on inflation is similar. Two years ago, economists were predicting a
recession. Many said it was impossible to lower inflation without a downturn and
widespread job losses. Yet we are living through this miracle. Report after
report shows inflation cooling off. On Thursday, we learned that inflation has
cooled to 2.4 percent. It’s so close to the 2 percent target again even Federal
Reserve officials aren’t that worried about it anymore. And there is no
recession in sight.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/10/economy-great-year-election/

The economy is *very* strong. Republiscums/QAnon are lying when they claim
otherwise.

--
Every Republiscum/QAnon accusation is, in fact, a confession

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers ROCK!
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[Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con> typed:

======================================
Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza
Pathetic vandalism of follow ups in an impotent attempt
to stop being bitch-slapped into next week
repaired and restored.
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>By just about every measure, the U.S. economy is in good shape. Growth is
>strong. Unemployment is low. Inflation is back down. More important, many
>Americans are getting sizable pay raises, and middle-class wealth has surged to
>record levels. We are living through one of the best economic years of many
>people’s lifetimes. Yet it’s barely mentioned in popular culture or on the
>campaign trail.

A lie told once remains a lie but a lie told a thousand times becomes
the truth.
- Goebbels

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Rudy Canoza wrote:
> The economy is *very* strong.

Why are you death threat prosecution exempt by the Feds so far?

And after _so many_ death threats you issued on Trump and Vance...

Let's do our best to change that, shall we:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party/Alan Bond/Henry Bodkin/Malte
Runz and a few dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.


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Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
From: Froyd
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On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
> Feeling the pain yet?
> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
> joy joy".
> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
> payment.
>
> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>
>
> Since Kamala took office:
>
> Gas: +38.2%
> Electricity: +31.3%
> Fuel oil: +37.4%
> Airfare: +24.5%
> Hotels: +42.4%
> Groceries: +22.1%
> Eggs: +69.2%
> Baby food: +31%
> K-12 food: +69.7%
> Rent: +22.9%
> Transportation: +31.1%
> Car insurance: +56.5%
> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%

Another thing for the list.

Look what green-pushing Democrats did to homeowner solar generated
electricity. They bent over for the utility companies and helped pass
legislation so they don't have to buy excess electricity from
homeowners, and if they still do, it's pennies not dollars now.

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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On 2024-10-12, Froyd <froyd@live.com> wrote:
> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>> Feeling the pain yet?
>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>> joy joy".
>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>> payment.
>>
>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>>
>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>> Gas: +38.2%
>> Electricity: +31.3%
>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>> Airfare: +24.5%
>> Hotels: +42.4%
>> Groceries: +22.1%
>> Eggs: +69.2%
>> Baby food: +31%
>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>> Rent: +22.9%
>> Transportation: +31.1%
>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>
> Another thing for the list.
>
> Look what green-pushing Democrats did to homeowner solar generated
> electricity. They bent over for the utility companies and helped pass
> legislation so they don't have to buy excess electricity from
> homeowners, and if they still do, it's pennies not dollars now.

Interesting.
I was not aware of that.

--
pothead
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Served Complete With Venn Diagram Dressing

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>> Feeling the pain yet?
>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>> joy joy".
>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>> payment.
>>
>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>

Gateway pundit? LOL.

>> Since Kamala took office:

What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?

>> Gas: +38.2%
>> Electricity: +31.3%
>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>> Airfare: +24.5%
>> Hotels: +42.4%
>> Groceries: +22.1%
>> Eggs: +69.2%
>> Baby food: +31%
>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>> Rent: +22.9%
>> Transportation: +31.1%
>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%

Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:

<https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>

....wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:

"In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
since January 2023."

FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
you're below average. Gosh.

>
> Another thing for the list.
>
> Look what green-pushing Democrats did to homeowner solar generated
> electricity.  They bent over for the utility companies and helped pass
> legislation so they don't have to buy excess electricity from
> homeowners, and if they still do, it's pennies not dollars now.

Really? Got a reputable citation for that claim?

Because the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) has ruled that
it doesn't have jurisdiction over net metering, and in 2020, even
dismissed a petition from utilities seeking the FERC to take control and
propose a national rule on net metering. See:

<https://www.americanactionforum.org/insight/federal-jurisdiction-of-net-metering/>

So if you've gotten screwed over by some rule change on Net Metering, it
was at the State level. Last time I looked into this, it was GOP-lead
Florida who was supporting the utility companies over homeowners. See:

<https://www.reddit.com/r/solar/comments/vtvudc/can_i_sue_my_florida_electric_coop_for/>

-hh

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On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>> joy joy".
>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>> payment.
>>>
>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>
>Gateway pundit? LOL.

Second source:

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/

Third source:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html

How about addressing the issue?

>
>
>>> Since Kamala took office:
>
>What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>
>
>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>> Baby food: +31%
>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>
>
>Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:

Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.

>
><https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>
>...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>
>"In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>since January 2023."
>
>FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>you're below average. Gosh.
>

Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.

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On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>> joy joy".
>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>> payment.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>>Gateway pundit? LOL.
>
> Second source:
>
> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>
> Third source:
>
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>
> How about addressing the issue?
>
>>
>>
>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>>What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>
>>
>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>
>>
>>Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>
> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>
>>
>><https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>
>>...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>
>>"In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>>4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>>since January 2023."
>>
>>FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>>you're below average. Gosh.
>>
>
> Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
> the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.
>
They don't call hh high horse for no reason.
I'd love for him to interview people at the local market and present his ever
spinning numbers and see what they think when they are paying more and getting
less.
Now that would be interesting.

--
pothead
Kama Lama Ding Dong is the long lost sister of
Rama Lama Ding Dong

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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>Feeling the pain yet?

She'll use her powers to confiscate Trump's wealth and hand it to the first
prisoner who rapes him. She'll be directly responsible for the severity of
Trump's prison shower beatings.

Trump left the economy a wreck. You are an enemy of the state and will be
hunted down.

The only question remaining is will Trump off himself in prison or will he
die there of old age?

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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>Really? Got a reputable citation for that claim?
>
>

Gateway pundit. the same website that said trump raped his son barron with
his buddy epstein.

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Edward Muhammad Johnson

STILLWATER, Minn. – A convicted killer beat a Minnesota prison guard to death with a hammer he checked out of the prison shop and stabbed him with a homemade knife during an attack last month, prosecutors alleged Thursday.

Prosecutors charged Edward Muhammad Johnson, 42, in Washington County court with second-degree murder and second-degree assault. He is scheduled to appear in court Friday.

Johnson is accused of fatally beating 45-year-old Officer Joseph Gomm with a hammer on July 18 at a state prison in Stillwater.

The attack happened in an industrial building housing the vocational programs at the state's flagship prison. A bloody hammer was found on the floor near the fatally injured Gomm, the complaint said.

Johnson also is accused of swinging the hammer at a corrections employee who is a prison shop foreman. The foreman told investigators an inmate approached him and said Gomm needed help. The foreman went into the shop and saw Johnson hitting Gomm in the head with a hammer, and retreated when Johnson swung the hammer at him, the complaint said. Johnson then shut the shop door and barricaded it, according to the complaint.

Several inmates saw a shirtless Johnson running around the shop and telling them, "You guys are fine," which apparently meant he did not intend to hurt them, the complaint said. After finding the shop door barricaded, correctional officers entered through a different door and saw Johnson, who surrendered. Correctional officers told investigators that inmates often will remove their shirts when they are involved in a fight.

Besides the hammer, investigators also found two homemade knives, one or both of which was used to stab Gomm, who suffered two puncture wounds to his chest, the complaint said.

Johnson was serving a 29-year sentence for fatally stabbing his roommate in 2002. Gomm, who had just marked 16 years as a correctional officer, is believed to be the first Minnesota correctional officer killed while on duty. His funeral last week drew thousands of law enforcement officers.

Following Gomm's death, union leaders representing Minnesota corrections workers called for more prison officers.

More than 1,600 inmates are housed at the century-old Stillwater prison. About a third of the prisoners are serving time for homicide.

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A New Hope man was charged with murder on May 5 after he allegedly stabbed a man near a Brooklyn Center apartment complex.

Demetrius Harris, 28, was charged with second-degree murder in connection with the stabbing death of Antonio Moore.

According to the criminal complaint, the stabbing followed a case of domestic assault, where Moore, a 37-year-old St. Louis Park man, was attempting to defend his sister

Harris has a previous relationship with Moore’s sister and the two have a child together.

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Demetrius Harris, 28, was charged with second-degree murder in connection with the stabbing death of Antonio Moore.

Antonio Moore Fatally Stabbed in Brooklyn Center
According to the criminal complaint:

At approximately 9:30 p.m. on May 2, Harris had been in Moore’s sister’s apartment at Twin Lake North Apartments when the two began to fight.

Moore’s sister got a phone call from another man, which upset Harris. He then punched her twice in the face.

She attempted to throw him out of her apartment and called her brother to ask for help. She threw Harris’ belongings into the hallway and locked him out.

Moore arrived at the apartment complex and his sister went outside to meet him.

Harris was waiting outside between the parking garages at the complex.

When Moore confronted Harris about assaulting his sister, the two engaged in a fistfight.

Police allege Harris then stabbed Moore in the abdomen.

Harris told Moore’s sister to call an ambulance and fled the scene.

Responding officers did not immediately locate Harris. However, a resident in a nearby apartment complex called 911 to report a trespasser.

The trespasser was Harris, who Brooklyn Center police eventually found hiding in the laundry room, the complaint said.

Police arrested Harris and booked him in the Hennepin County Jail. The district court put his bail at $500,000.

Moore was transported to the North Memorial Health Hospital emergency room. According to the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s office, he was pronounced dead at 10:11 p.m.

“My thoughts today are with the victim’s family, and especially his sister who he was protecting during this incident,” said Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty. “We will not tolerate violence in our communities. I’m grateful to the Brooklyn Center Police Department for working quickly to respond to the scene, identify the person responsible, and apprehend him. We will now aggressively prosecute this case to hold Mr. Harris accountable.”

https://ccxmedia.org/news/new-hope-man-charged-with-murder-after-fatal-stabbing/

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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On 10/13/2024 7:36 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>> joy joy".
>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>> payment.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>
> Second source:
>
> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>
> Third source:
>
> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>
> How about addressing the issue?
>
>>
>>
>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>
>>
>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>
>>
>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>
> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>
>>
>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>
>> ...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>
>> "In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>> 4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>> since January 2023."
>>
>> FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>> you're below average. Gosh.
>>
>
> Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
> the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.

They haven't.

The USA lags behind all other developed nations when it comes to wages,
disability and social services for THEIR OWN CITIZENS.

Disability payments are a disgrace in the USA. They are unfairly tilted
to benefit blacks and those who have applied for sanctuary from foreign
countries at the expense of Caucasians and Native Americans of any
ethnicity. Can you live on $900 a month? That's what a typical monthly
disability payment is in the USA.

It's time to kick all the illegals out and focus on Americans first.

Kick them out and give them 10 Democrats each on the way out.

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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alan downs <alandowns@facebook.com> wrote in
news:vehetm$5bo$6@toxic.dizum.net:

>
> It's time to kick all the illegals out and focus on Americans first.
>


Yes, deport the illegals and give those
jobs instead to...........Jamaicans. Heaven
knows Americans won't do the work.

Essential Jamaican workers keep local
orchards humming
AUG 6, 2020

In an interview with the Press, Frank
Carlson, one of the owners of Carlson
Orchards, explained the process of
bringing migrant farm workers to the
U.S. He said that agricultural workers
come to the U.S. on H-2A visas, which
the New England Apple Council helps to
organize for the orchards. The council
also has a contract with Florida East
Coast Vegetables, which allows the
workers to fly from Jamaica to Florida
and stay overnight before flying or
taking a bus up the coast.
http://tinyurl.com/4mcrwzft

US hunts more agriculture workers from Jamaica
February 14, 2024
https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/business/20240214/us-hunts-more-
agriculture-workers-jamaica

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 10:36:17 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
><recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>> joy joy".
>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>> payment.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>>Gateway pundit? LOL.
>
>Second source:
>
>https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>
>Third source:
>
>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>
>How about addressing the issue?
>
>>
>>
>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>>What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>
>>
>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>
>>
>>Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>
>Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>
>>
>><https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>
>>...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>
>>"In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>>4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>>since January 2023."
>>
>>FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>>you're below average. Gosh.
>>
>
>Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
>the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.

<crickets.wav>

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 22:30:46 -0700, Froyd <froyd@live.com> wrote:

>On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>> Feeling the pain yet?
>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>> joy joy".
>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>> payment.
>>
>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>
>>
>> Since Kamala took office:
>>
>> Gas: +38.2%
>> Electricity: +31.3%
>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>> Airfare: +24.5%
>> Hotels: +42.4%
>> Groceries: +22.1%
>> Eggs: +69.2%
>> Baby food: +31%
>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>> Rent: +22.9%
>> Transportation: +31.1%
>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>
>Another thing for the list.
>
>Look what green-pushing Democrats did to homeowner solar generated
>electricity. They bent over for the utility companies and helped pass
>legislation so they don't have to buy excess electricity from
>homeowners, and if they still do, it's pennies not dollars now.

Um, ya know guys, that when you post stuff like this from Gateway Pundit,
everybody knows it's a lie, right?

--

Two more reasons to not vote for Trump in 23 days.

44) In a likely obstruction of justice, Trump pressured
then-FBI Director James Comey to stop the FBI's investigation
into Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn.
This was documented in the Mueller report.

45) When Comey didn't bend to Trump's will, Trump fired him.

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In article <XnsB20AD4F9EB4F0629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> alan downs <alandowns@facebook.com> wrote in
> news:vehetm$5bo$6@toxic.dizum.net:
>
>
> >
> > It's time to kick all the illegals out and focus on Americans first.
> >
>
>
> Yes, deport the illegals and give those
> jobs instead to...........Jamaicans. Heaven
> knows Americans won't do the work.

Like you?
>
>
>
> Essential Jamaican workers keep local
> orchards humming
> AUG 6, 2020
>
> In an interview with the Press, Frank
> Carlson, one of the owners of Carlson
> Orchards, explained the process of
> bringing migrant farm workers to the
> U.S. He said that agricultural workers
> come to the U.S. on H-2A visas, which
> the New England Apple Council helps to
> organize for the orchards. The council
> also has a contract with Florida East
> Coast Vegetables, which allows the
> workers to fly from Jamaica to Florida
> and stay overnight before flying or
> taking a bus up the coast.
> http://tinyurl.com/4mcrwzft
>
>
>
> US hunts more agriculture workers from Jamaica
> February 14, 2024
> https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/business/20240214/us-hunts-more-
> agriculture-workers-jamaica

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On 10/14/2024 4:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 10:36:17 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>> payment.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>
>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>
>> Second source:
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>
>> Third source:
>>
>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>
>> How about addressing the issue?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>
>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>
>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>>
>>> ...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>>
>>> "In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>>> 4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>>> since January 2023."
>>>
>>> FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>>> you're below average. Gosh.
>>>
>>
>> Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
>> the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.
>
> <crickets.wav>

Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness petulantly and childishly whines again that
she's being ignored by her intellectual superiors.

Kremlin Girl / Bit of Nothingness sees *every one* of these.

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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On 10/13/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
> On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>> payment.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>
>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>
>> Second source:
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>
>> Third source:
>>
>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>
>> How about addressing the issue?

That's in the next section ... how about addressing it?

>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>
>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>
>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.

Interesting claim - got cite?

Because FRED's data is indicating that real income is approaching an
all-time-high:

<https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N>

>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>>
>>> ...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>>
>>> "In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>>> 4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>>> since January 2023."
>>>
>>> FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>>> you're below average. Gosh.
>>>
>>
>> Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
>> the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.
>>
> They don't call hh high horse for no reason.

The reason why luzers call me that is because they lose the debate on
the facts of the matter.

Case in point, the facts of the matter is that already by beginning of
2023, real median personal income was already at a nearly all-time high.
See:

<https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N>

$42,220 is 99.3% of the all-time high of $42,530 ...

And before you point and say that it is 0.7% short, note that I said
that this was as of 1/1/2023, so it is 20+ months out of date.

So what's happened on wages vs inflation over the past 21 months? Well,
go back to the Stasticia cite I provided to fill in that gap: one can
see that wage growth has exceeded inflation for all but the first month
of that time period...

....so when you do the math to bring this up to date, you find that wages
have exceeded inflation by +3% since 1/1/23. When FRED eventually
updates and publishes through to August 2024, you'll see that their real
wages will be at ~$43,487, which is 102% of its prior all-time high.

TL;DR: real median personal income is an *after* inflation metric, and
as of August 2024, it is 2% higher than the previous record high.

> I'd love for him to interview people at the local market and present his ever
> spinning numbers and see what they think when they are paying more and getting
> less.
> Now that would be interesting.
>

If you can prove that the numbers I provide are wrong, have at it.
Otherwise, you're just YA member of the luzer butthurt brigade.

-hh

Subject: Re: Since Kamala Harris Took Office--> Economy Numbers SUCK
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On 10/14/24 7:40 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 10:36:17 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh
>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>> payment.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>
>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>
>> Second source:
>>
>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>
>> Third source:
>>
>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>
>> How about addressing the issue?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>
>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>
>>>
>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>
>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/1351276/wage-growth-vs-inflation-us/>
>>>
>>> ...wage growth has caught up & passed inflation, and they also note:
>>>
>>> "In August 2024, inflation amounted to 2.5 percent, while wages grew by
>>> 4.6 percent. The inflation rate has not exceeded the rate of wage growth
>>> since January 2023."
>>>
>>> FYI, if your personal situation is different, its because as a worker,
>>> you're below average. Gosh.
>>>
>>
>> Now show us the stats that show wages have kept up with inflation for
>> the total inflation of the Biden Presidency.
>
> <crickets.wav>

Heaven forbid that I don't log in on a Sunday!

In any event, already addressed in my post on this thread of a few
minutes ago.

Real Real Median Personal Income in the United States (which is an
"after inflation" metric) was already back by 1/1/2023 to be over 99% of
that metric's all time record high, plus as per the above Statistica
cite, the growth in wages since 1/1/2023 is +3% higher than inflation,
which puts real income as of Aug 24 at 2% better than it has ever been.

Now then, Mr "crickets", for the part you've been silent on:

What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?

You've already had all of yesterday to think about your answer.

-hh

-hh

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On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 16:29:12 -0400, -hh
<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>On 10/13/24 10:47 AM, pothead wrote:
>> On 2024-10-13, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:25:56 -0400, -hh wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/12/24 1:30 AM, Froyd wrote:
>>>>> On 10/11/2024 5:41 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>>> Feeling the pain yet?
>>>>>> Maybe you democrats can run out into the streets shouting "happy happy
>>>>>> joy joy".
>>>>>> I'm sure the checkout person at the supermarket will accept that as
>>>>>> payment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/kamalas-america-inflation-
>>>>>> rises-september-food-prices-surge/>
>>>>
>>>> Gateway pundit? LOL.
>>>
>>> Second source:
>>>
>>> https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-consumer-prices-rise-slightly-above-expectations-september-2024-10-10/
>>>
>>> Third source:
>>>
>>> https://finance.yahoo.com/news/grocery-prices-rise-again-in-september-candy-prices-expected-to-remain-elevated-ahead-of-halloween-202000134.html
>>>
>>> How about addressing the issue?
>
>
>That's in the next section ... how about addressing it?
>
>
>>>>>> Since Kamala took office:
>>>>
>>>> What federal policies affect any of these, and what Constitutional
>>>> powers does the Vice President have to make said affects?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Gas: +38.2%
>>>>>> Electricity: +31.3%
>>>>>> Fuel oil: +37.4%
>>>>>> Airfare: +24.5%
>>>>>> Hotels: +42.4%
>>>>>> Groceries: +22.1%
>>>>>> Eggs: +69.2%
>>>>>> Baby food: +31%
>>>>>> K-12 food: +69.7%
>>>>>> Rent: +22.9%
>>>>>> Transportation: +31.1%
>>>>>> Car insurance: +56.5%
>>>>>> Real average weekly earnings: -3.4%
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regarding wage growth vs inflation, wage growth always lags because it
>>>> is in response to inflation. As per Statistica:
>>>
>>> Inflation is exceeding wage growth cumulatively.
>
>Interesting claim - got cite?

"Since Biden took office in January 2021, inflation has increased
19.3% while wages have risen 16.1%. "

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jun/06/joe-biden/have-wages-exceeded-inflation-under-joe-biden/

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