The Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, California, is named after
the famed Austrian Nazi-hunter, Simon Wiesenthal, a connection that
turns out to be appropriate in disturbing but unexpected ways. That
is, both Simon Wiesenthal and the Center named after him have been
accused of flagrant lying, exaggerations and half-truths. Wiesenthal’s
confabulations were never a matter of published discourse among
scholars, so far as this writer can determine, nor were they popular
knowledge until quite recently. In any case, it is now known that
Wiesenthal, a born story-teller, rarely let the facts get in the way
of a good story—in fact many of the things he claimed to have done
were fabrications. This recently came to light with the publication,
in June of 2009, of Hunting Evil, by British Author Guy Walters, in
which he characterizes Simon Wiesenthal as “a liar—and a bad one at
that.” Wiesenthal, he maintains, would “concoct outrageous stories
about his war years and make false claims about his academic career.”
Walters found that there were “so many inconsistencies between his
three main memoirs and between those memoirs and contemporaneous
documents, that it is impossible to establish a reliable narrative
from them. Wiesenthal’s scant regard for the truth makes it possible
to doubt everything he ever wrote or said.”1

Daniel Finkelstein, grandson of the founder of the Wiener Library in
London, one of the oldest and most reputable institutions for the
study of the Holocaust, had this to say in an August 2009 article in
the London Times about Guy Walters’ Hunting Evil: “Walters’s
documentary evidence on Wiesenthal’s inconsistencies and lies is
impeccable. He shows how the Nazi hunter’s accounts of his wartime
experiences are contradictory and implausible. He demonstrates that he
had no role, contrary to his own assertion, in the capture of Adolf
Eichmann. He pitilessly dissects Wiesenthal’s overblown claims about
the number he brought to justice, suggesting it was not much more than
a handful.”2

So far the Wiener Library itself has not responded directly to this
revaluation of Wiesenthal. That is interesting because one assumes
that they, like many others in the field of Holocaust Studies, may
have been aware for some time that there were problems with
Wiesenthal’s resume.

So what is the truth about Simon Wiesenthal? Born in 1908 in Galicia,
Wiesenthal attended the Czech Technical University in Prague in 1929,
where he had a reputation as a gifted raconteur. (Walters says he
appeared as “a stand-up comedian,” which could be a British
approximation of the cabaret theatre popular at that time.) Wiesenthal
claimed to have graduated from Czech Technical, but records show that
he didn’t. He also maintained that he studied at Lwow Polytechnic in
Galicia in 1935, but there is no record of him ever attending classes
there. Wiesenthal likewise claimed to have operated his own
architectural office and built elegant villas, but again Polish
records do not support this. Instead he appears to have worked as a
supervisor in a Lviv furniture factory from 1935 until 1939, a
somewhat more mundane occupation, and one that Wiesenthal himself
acknowledged before he became a famous celebrity in Vienna.

During the Second World War, Wiesenthal was apprehended by the Nazis,
and was in at least six different Nazi camps. For reasons unknown,
however, he claimed later to have been in 13 of them. This raises the
question that must inevitably come up when contemplating Wiesenthal’s
stories about himself. Being in a single Nazi camp would clearly be a
horrific, mind-blowing experience, much less being in six of them.
(This writer cannot confirm which ones were death camps and which ones
labor or concentration camps.) So why did Wiesenthal feel it necessary
to inflate the number of camps he’d been in to 13, particularly since
such claims were likely to be checked later?

Part of the answer seems to be that Wiesenthal was a natural-born
confabulator and liar who had a powerful need to create the persona of
a superhero. But that alone does not explain his behavior. The
Holocaust raises questions about human nature, and there is a demand
for accounts that can explain, rationalize, and create a moral context
for it. Wiesenthal offered people a plausible narrative with a moral
framework: Nazis incarcerated him; he miraculously escaped; he now
tracked them down. The systemic evil of the Holocaust was so huge and
so threatening that it could be successfully addressed only by a
superman whose capacity to survive evil and punish transgressors was
larger than life. Wiesenthal was acutely aware of this; and his
heart-stopping accounts of last-minutes escapes from the Nazis played
to this anxiety. And the fact that he was bringing masses of Nazi war
criminals to justice was the happy ending to the success story, the
kind peopled wanted to hear; but as Walters demonstrates in Hunting
Evil, at least one of Wiesenthal’s accounts of last-minute escapes
from the Nazis can be shown to be a fabrication, and others are
questionable.

After the war, Wiesenthal founded two organizations that sought to
collect and centralize information on Nazi war criminals at large.
Sometimes these war criminals were “hiding in plain sight,” in the
sense that governments knew where they were but lacked the political
will to arrest them. The main function of Wiesenthal’s organizations,
then, was to keep the issue current in the public eye—and he had the
kind of personality, and the public relations skills, to do just that.
This is the real reason for Wiesenthal’s notoriety. The organizations
set up by Wiesenthal were research organizations, and had no real
investigative functions, such as law enforcement might have, and no
power to arrest people. Guy Walters concludes (correctly, in my
opinion) that the disinterestedness of western governments in hunting
down Nazi criminals was far more repugnant morally than Wiesenthal’s
experiments with the truth. That said, the fact that Wiesenthal told
so many unnecessary lies, and that people who might have suspected
this said nothing to challenge them, is one more example of the
Holocaust’s ability to corrupt.

Although Wiesenthal claimed to have brought over a thousand Nazi
criminals to justice, he generated information leading to the arrest
of less than a hundred at most. His most outrageous claim was that he
participated in the tracking down of Adolf Eichmann. This was, and
remains, a falsehood—the tracking and kidnapping of Eichmann was the
work of Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, and Wiesenthal’s
involvement was limited to passing on whatever information he had to
them. This inconvenient reality was widely known—certainly it was
known to Mossad, which despised and resented Wiesenthal’s self-serving
stories—but apparently few people were willing to question
Wiesenthal’s many claims.

Except in Austria, that is, where Wiesenthal was for a long time a
controversial figure. It the 1970s, Wiesenthal publicly berated
Austrian Prime Minister Bruno Kreisky for having so many ex-Nazis in
his cabinet—and in this, Wiesenthal was undoubtedly right. The
controversy he stirred up was especially important because Austrians
had, up to that time, generally avoided much public discussion about
their own responsibility for Nazi crimes; and Wiesenthal may have
welcomed the opportunity to open up this issue when he made his
sensational—but accurate—accusations about Kreisky’s cabinet choices.
Kreisky, a Jewish Social Democrat, hinted that Wiesenthal had survived
the war only because he collaborated with the Gestapo; but Wiesenthal
sued for libel and won. Wiesenthal also drew fire for emphasizing that
others besides Jews died in the gas chambers, which brought him into
conflict with Elie Wiesel, who took the view that the Holocaust should
be seen as an exclusively Jewish event. Some of Wiesenthal’s ideas
were good ones—how ironic, then, that his ideas were given serious
consideration only because of the rough-and-tumble public persona that
Wiesenthal had invented for himself as part of his entrepreneurial and
overly-imaginative self-promotion as a swashbuckling Nazi-hunter.

Wiesenthal received practically every honor known to the 20th century,
over 100 of them. Mainly because of his own self-promotion, Wiesenthal
became much more than an author with some dubious and not particularly
well-written books—he became a secular saint. But of what secular
religion was Saint Wiesenthal the exemplar? The trouble with
Wiesenthal was not his extraordinary efforts to focus public attention
on Nazi criminals—the problem was, and is, that his accounts of his
own experiences were never challenged by people who professed to have
an interest in historical truth. His addiction to confabulation made
him a prisoner of what Norman Finkelstein has called The Holocaust
Industry, which we may describe as the systematic use of the Holocaust
for personal and organizational gain.

We are left with the sense that perhaps some who noticed discrepancies
in Wiesenthal’s books said nothing because they were afraid of being
denounced as anti-Semites. Author Guy Walters refers to this in his
July 2009 article in the Sunday Times. “Some may feel I am too harsh
on [Wiesenthal] and that I run a professional danger in seemingly
allying myself with a vile host of neo-Nazis, revisionists, Holocaust
deniers and anti-Semites. I belong firmly outside any of these squalid
camps and it is my intention to wrestle criticism of Wiesenthal away
from their clutches. His figure is a complex and important one. If
there was a motive for his duplicity, it may well have been rooted in
good intentions.” Guy Walters made this caveat a month after his book
came out last summer; the fact that he made it at all indicates the
sensitivity with which a professional historian must approach anything
having to do with the Holocaust.

>The Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles, California, is named after
>the famed Austrian Nazi-hunter, Simon Wiesenthal, a connection that
>turns out to be appropriate in disturbing but unexpected ways. That
>is, both Simon Wiesenthal and the Center named after him have been
>accused of flagrant lying, exaggerations and half-truths. Wiesenthal's
>confabulations were never a matter of published discourse among
>scholars, so far as this writer can determine, nor were they popular
>knowledge until quite recently. In any case, it is now known that
>Wiesenthal, a born story-teller, rarely let the facts get in the way
>of a good story-in fact many of the things he claimed to have done
>were fabrications. This recently came to light with the publication,
>in June of 2009, of Hunting Evil, by British Author Guy Walters, in
>which he characterizes Simon Wiesenthal as "a liar-and a bad one at
>that." Wiesenthal, he maintains, would "concoct outrageous stories
>about his war years and make false claims about his academic career."
>Walters found that there were "so many inconsistencies between his
>three main memoirs and between those memoirs and contemporaneous
>documents, that it is impossible to establish a reliable narrative
>from them. Wiesenthal's scant regard for the truth makes it possible
>to doubt everything he ever wrote or said."1
>

Another Hitler hater. Someone call Trump.

But why on earth, do our TOP Aryan women do this?

"Face of German neo-Nazi Party" Sucks Black Dick on Camera
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http://tinyurl.com/lnscf3m

Wendy Iwanow, yet another TOP neo-Nazi woman who sucked Black Dick on Camera
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http://tinyurl.com/zle4mty

Susan Cohen wrote:
> But why on earth, do our TOP Aryan women do this?
>
> "Face of German neo-Nazi Party" Sucks Black Dick on Camera
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> http://tinyurl.com/lnscf3m
>
> Wendy Iwanow, yet another TOP neo-Nazi woman who sucked Black Dick on Camera
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://tinyurl.com/zle4mty
>
They want the rewards.

https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-african-man-holding-baby-belly-white-girl-american-men-his-caucasian-pregnant-wife-standing-isolated-background-image54864981

https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-black-man-kissing-his-pregnant-white-woman-african-american-men-caucasian-women-holding-her-big-baby-belly-isolated-image54864988

Imagine what the baby looks like!

Michael

On 10/2/2024 4:12 AM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
> Susan Cohen wrote:
>> But why on earth, do our TOP Aryan women do this?
>>
>> "Face of German neo-Nazi Party" Sucks Black Dick on Camera
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> http://tinyurl.com/lnscf3m
>>
>> Wendy Iwanow, yet another TOP neo-Nazi woman who sucked Black Dick on Camera
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> http://tinyurl.com/zle4mty
>>
>    They want the rewards.
>
>
> https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-african-man-holding-baby-belly-white-girl-american-men-his-caucasian-pregnant-wife-standing-isolated-background-image54864981
>
>
>
> https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-black-man-kissing-his-pregnant-white-woman-african-american-men-caucasian-women-holding-her-big-baby-belly-isolated-image54864988
>
>
>    Imagine what the baby looks like!
>
>
>  Michael

Shut the fuck up, you stupid greasy beaner.

[Default] Rudy "Cunt Flaps" Canoza typed:

>On 10/2/2024 4:12 AM, Michael Ejercito wrote:
>> Susan Cohen wrote:
>>> But why on earth, do our TOP Aryan women do this?
>>>
>>> "Face of German neo-Nazi Party" Sucks Black Dick on Camera
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> http://tinyurl.com/lnscf3m
>>>
>>> Wendy Iwanow, yet another TOP neo-Nazi woman who sucked Black Dick on Camera
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> http://tinyurl.com/zle4mty
>>>
>>    They want the rewards.
>>
>>
>> https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-african-man-holding-baby-belly-white-girl-american-men-his-caucasian-pregnant-wife-standing-isolated-background-image54864981
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-black-man-kissing-his-pregnant-white-woman-african-american-men-caucasian-women-holding-her-big-baby-belly-isolated-image54864988
>>
>>
>>    Imagine what the baby looks like!
>>
>>
>>  Michael
>
>Shut the fuck up, you stupid greasy beaner.

Rudy hates it when someone else is getting all the black cock.

David Hartung wrote:
>> magine what the baby looks like!
>>
>>
>>   Michael
>
> Shut the fuck up, you stupid greasy beaner.

More forging from Rudence.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Susan Cohen wrote:
> But why on earth, do our TOP Aryan women do this?

ESAD Rudence, you forging fucklip.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks
wrote their usual multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

Minneapolis, MN – On the evening of September 7, 2017, dozens gathered on the University of Minnesota (UMN) Minneapolis campus and marched in an open show of resistance against rape and fraternity culture during the fraternities’ prime recruitment week.

Individuals had been invited to gather at 9pm on the East bank of the Minneapolis UMN campus to “Start off the school year right and dance against the frats and capitalist heteropatriarchy!” Members of the Unlawful Assembly Marching Band were in attendance to provide live, mobile music for the dance party.

As the band began their first song people started dancing and walking on the sidewalk down SE University Avenue, heading down “frat row” the location of the majority of fraternity houses near the UMN campus. The group quickly took to the streets behind a large pink banner, its message “Kill Rapists” emblazoned in large black glittery letters and accompanied by images of a chef’s knife and brass knuckles.

The group turned north immediately after Zeta Psi fraternity and then marched west on SE 4th Street in front of the fraternities located there. Chants included “Fuck the frats,” “Smash rape culture,” “Kill Rapists,” and “We’ll be back.”

This past week marked the beginning of the UMN 2017-2018 school year, as well as “rush week” when Greek letter organizations such as fraternities determinedly begin to recruit more members. As outdoor parties were being held in yards of most of the frat houses this past Thursday, fraternity members, younger prospective pledges, and others attending the frat parties were greeted by a small yet militant group of individuals who had a harsh message of rejection for the fraternities.

One of the organizers of the action (who wishes to remain anonymous) said to Unicorn Riot that the fraternities “basically promote a culture of protecting rapists” and that despite continuing revelations of survivors of fraternity rapes, the organizations have experienced little impediment to recruiting new membership or to their reputation.

This organizer also said that the aim of the militant march was “letting them know that this shit’s not gonna fly here” and that “they will always have to plan their events around resistance that will only escalate and grow in numbers.” Another organizer described the purpose of the action as resistance to fraternities as a whole because of many toxic aspects of frat culture:

They’ve been raping people, they’ve been a force of terror for people of color and trans folks, and we’re trying to tell them to get the fuck out and that they’re not wanted here.” – Event organizer

Seven years ago, in September 2010 the local chapter of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity was the site of a sexual assault by one of its members, as were local chapters of fraternities Chi Psi and Phi Gamma Delta. DKE locally received a four-year suspension from its national headquarters as a result of the actions of its local membership.

Numerous fraternity chapters in Minneapolis alone have made the news much more recently with regards to sexual assault and rape culture:

In October 2016 two members were expelled from UMN Sigma Phi Epsilon (motto “Building Balanced Men”) as a result of their having interfered in a rape investigation; in 2014 after a fraternity member violently raped someone (the man is now serving six years in prison for this and another rape), two of his frat brothers called the victim-survivor, attempting to manipulate her into not reporting the rape to police by asking her to “think about what the consequences [are] with him and his future.”
In January 2017 a member of Alpha Epsilon Pi UMN reportedly sexually assaulted a pledge and continued to harass him afterwards and threaten him with blackmail
Also in January 2017 Delta Chi UMN fell under public scrutiny when a tweet was leaked of a handwritten list reportedly created by Delta Chi members describing female television cast members using racist, sexist, and objectifying language. The associate executive director of Delta Chi national said there would be a judiciary board process to “review this circumstance and hold anyone accountable to actions that violate the values and expectations of Delta Chi.”
In February 2017 the UMN chapter of the Delta Upsilon fraternity (motto “Building Better Men”) was temporarily suspended by the DU international organization while an investigation took place regarding multiple sexual assaults perpetrated by its Minneapolis membership. (The suspension has since been lifted from the UMN chapter of Delta Upsilon)
After the Delta Upsilon chapter’s suspension, Minneapolis chapter adviser Don Powell resigned from his position. In an email Powell sent to DU international, his comments exemplify the rape culture that pervades fraternities. Powell appears to assert that a rape isn’t “real” if the victim-survivor hasn’t been battered or otherwise obviously physically abused; that victim-survivors are somehow responsible for their rape if they “dress provocatively”; that he has “never seen this big of ‘nothing’, blown up into ‘something'”; and that the sexual assaults in question weren’t to be taken seriously:

“Compared to some other fraternities at the U, our guys are choirboys!” – Donald Powell, former Delta Upsilon UMN chapter adviser

Since Powell’s email remarks have been made public, including that he would like “to slap [the victim-survivors who came public] across the face”, DU international has suspended his membership in the Delta Upsilon fraternity, about which Powell remarked “I don’t care.”

Locally there have been varied forms of resistance to toxic fraternity culture in the past year:

In February 2017, the day after the suspension of DU was made public, hand-painted wooden signs appeared on the property of the East River student housing cooperative reading “Frat Boys: Stop Raping People,” “Stop Protecting Perps + Silencing Survivors,” and “This street is a danger to humanity: frat boys are 3x more likely to sexually assault than other college men!” (This housing cooperative formerly known as “the Students’ Co-op” has been in existence for more than seventy-five years, its property bordered by three fraternity houses)
In March 2017 more than 100 protesters marched down frat row to speak out against the rape culture prevalent on the UMN campus, months after the September 2016 sanctions due to sexual misconduct of several UMN Gopher football players.
The following month the Danger Collective organized a protest of the annual fraternity participation in the “Walk a mile in her shoes” event, an international men’s march in which men walk one mile in high heels to raise awareness about gender-based sexual violence. The collective organized the protest because they “do not think this event demonstrates the Greek’s [sic] commitment to addressing sexual violence.”
“They held the same event this year even after increased pressure and several public cases of Greek sexual violence. They need to do more than raising awareness.” – Danger Collective statement about the protest

It is not known whether the reporting rate for fraternity rapes reflects the actual rate. One aspect of Greek letter organizations is the pairing of like-minded fraternity and sorority houses. Survivors of sexual assault have been silenced by their sororities, prevented by their “sisters” from coming forward about their assault because of the fear of damaging a relationship between houses.

Another aspect of fraternity culture is the correlation between organization membership and positions of power within the capitalist political sphere. Though less than 5% of the United States population belongs to Greek letter organizations, a majority of current U.S. senators are members of Greek letter organizations, as well as all but three presidents since 1825 (44% of all presidents). A statistic popularized by fraternities themselves is that “approximately 80% of the top executives of Fortune 500 companies are fraternity men.” Universities depend on donations from alumni for their funding, and may be inclined to look the other way on accusations of misconduct of current student fraternity members in order to not risk jeopardizing their future funding.

When Unicorn Riot asked one of the organizers what they hoped the fraternity members learned from the march, they responded “I hope this scares them. I hope they think twice about ever victimizing anyone ever again.”

https://unicornriot.ninja/2017/minneapolis-residents-march-rape-culture-fraternities/

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 12:42:43 -0600, Lil dwarf Rudey
<dumbasastump@invalid.org> wrote:

>Susan Cohen wrote:
>> But why on earth, do our TOP Aryan women do this?
>
>ESAD Rudence, you forging fucklip.

What do these assholes wish to accomplish? Their forgeries fool no
one.

>
>
>Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
>Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/Intelligent Party and a few dozen other socks
>wrote their usual multiple death threats against Trump:
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> > No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
>thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> > is an important step to getting there.
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>
>That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:
>
>
>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
>18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
>Presidency
>U.S. Code
>Notes
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>(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
>or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
>letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
>threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
>the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
>President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
>of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
>knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
>President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
>order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
>shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
>or both.
>(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
>this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
>candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
>respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
>held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
>accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
>phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
>President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
>order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
>United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
>(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, §?1, 69
>Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, §?1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
>97–297, §?2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
>XXXIII, §?330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
>
>9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
>Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
>Service Protectees
>The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
>supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
>caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
>protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
>consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
>Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
>the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
>defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
>U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
>United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
>involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
>settlement involving a § 871 charge.
>
>
>https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and
>
>PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
>for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
>Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
>counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
>and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.
>
>The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
>living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
>to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
>November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
>statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
>resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
>U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
>crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
>series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.
>
>Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
>Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
>up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
>of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
>five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
>supervised release.
>
>A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
>criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
>presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
>guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
>
>The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
>case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
>handling the prosecution.
>
>
>Those can be reported here:
>
>https://tips.fbi.gov/home
>
>https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint
>
>https://www.secretservice.gov/contact
>
>https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california
>
>
>Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?
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