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Subject: Re: Trump accuses Kamala Harris of staging Hurricane Helene briefing photo: 'You have to plug the cord into the phone for it to work!'
From: -hh
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Subject: Re: Trump accuses Kamala Harris of staging Hurricane Helene briefing
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On 10/2/24 10:06 PM, Dave Wainwright wrote:
> On 10/2/2024 5:01 PM, citizen winston smith wrote:
>> On 10/2/2024 4:40 PM, -hh wrote:
>>> citizen winston smith <sss@example.de> wrote:
>>>> On 10/2/2024 2:01 PM, -hh wrote:
>>>>> relief effort promises to send 3% to the victims
>>>>
>>>> NOW GO PROVE THAT %, YOU DNC SHILL ASSWIPE!
>>>
>>> Read the details .. or more precisely, the vague wording and lack of a
>>> timeline.
>>
>> There is NO %3 qualifier, you LIED, you febrile asswipe!
>>
>> https://www.news5cleveland.com/science-and-tech/natural-disasters/
>> trump-gofundme-for-hurricane-helene-victims-raises-more-than-4-million
>>
>> Former President Donald Trump launched a GoFundMe campaign for victims
>> of Hurricane Helene and its amassed more than $4 million as of
>> Wednesday afternoon.
>>
>> “President Donald J. Trump has launched this GoFundMe campaign as an
>> official response for MAGA supporters to offer their financial
>> assistance to their fellow Americans impacted by Hurricane Helene,”
>> reads the fundraiser description.
>>
>> “With so many across the Southeastern U.S. facing challenges after the
>> storm, President Trump is on the ground in communities to see the
>> aftermath firsthand. All donations will be directed to help those most
>> affected by Hurricane Helene. Any level of generosity will go a long
>> way for your fellow Americans who are suffering,” says the fundraiser.
>>
>>
>> https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-hurricane-helene-victims-with-
>> president-trump
>>
>> GoFundMe
>> Giving Guarantee
>> We guarantee you a full refund in the rare case something isn’t right.
>>
>> Please continue to support your fellow Americans in their recovery
>> efforts! President Trump is grateful for your support of this effort
>> and as funds come in we will disperse to those who have been impacted.
>> We have selected Samaritan’s Purse and Water Mission as the recipients
>> of this generosity. We have made an initial disbursement and will
>> continue providing more funds as support continues to come in.
>>
>>
>>> Case in point, here’s the one which promised assistance to the family of
>>> Corey Comperatore:
>>>
>>> <https://www.gofundme.com/f/president-trump-seeks-support-for-butler-
>>> pa-victims>
>>>
>>> It’s now a week short of being 3 months ago.
>>
>> GoFundMe
>> Giving Guarantee
>> We guarantee you a full refund in the rare case something isn’t right.
>>
>>
>>> So where’s there evidence that the family has received any payments yet?
>>
>> So where's YOUR EVIDENCE they only got 3%, LIAR???
>>
>> $6,609,422 raised of $1,000,000 goal
>> 70.4K donations
>>
>>
>>> I’ll give ya a free clue:  there’s been zero status updates on that
>>> page.
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> You are  GODDAMNED LIAR!
>>
>> Updates (1)
>> Today
>> by Meredith ORourke, Organizer
>> We are very grateful for the outpouring of love and support expressed
>> to the victims of the assassination attempt in Butler. With millions
>> raised from supporters, President Trump is able to provide the
>> Comperatore family and other victims with financial resources. While
>> this will never make up for the loss and pain from this horrific
>> event, Trump supporters have shown how we are a movement of hope and
>> compassion. This Saturday, President Trump will be back in Butler to
>> remember the victims and celebrate our nation’s strength and resilience.
>>
>> Deep Discounts Club
>> $52 2d
>> Hope the victims are healing well and the persons involved will be
>> held accountable.
>>
>> Donations (70367)
>>
>> NewestTop
>> Loretta Palmer
>> $50
>> 32 mins
>> John Eller
>> $25
>> 43 mins
>> Naomi Loriega
>> $50
>> 1 hr
>> Maria Peisach
>> $25
>> 1 hr
>>
>> I'll give you a free clue - YOU ARE LYING TRAITOR TO OUR REPUBLIC!
>>
>> Fuck you straight to Hell Huntzy, you deceitful honor-less motherfucker!
>
> You nailed him on that one.
>

Really?

Because *where* in that text does it say how much of the funds raised
are going to the actual victims, and not to the fundraisers (eg,
"overhead costs")?

Point it out to us, in black & white.

For as I've already said

[quote]
Read the details .. or more precisely, the vague wording and lack of a
timeline.

Case in point, here’s the one which promised assistance to the family of
Corey Comperatore:

<https://www.gofundme.com/f/president-trump-seeks-support-for-butler-pa-victims>

It’s now a week short of being 3 months ago.

So where’s there evidence that the family has received any payments yet?

I’ll give ya a free clue: there’s been zero status updates on that page.
[/quote]

TL;DR: sure, they're collecting donations ... but where's the proof of
any actual distribution of those funds to the victims?

Plus even if they do send some funds, how much did they take off the top
for their (ahem!) "administrative overhead"? 3%? 30% More?

Free hint:

"How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business"

<https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/>

Another free hint:

"Trump Pays $2 Million to 8 Charities for Misuse of Foundation
Under a settlement, the president admitted he had used his charity to
bolster his campaign and settle business debts."

<https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/nyregion/trump-foundation-lawsuit-attorney-general.html>

FYI, this isn't the first rodeo of fraud & graft. Also go look into GOP
First Ladies who've had prior disaster relief fund drives ... and try to
account for where all of that money went. Maybe you'll find one from
2019 that took 2-3 years of "office expenses" and organizer salaries
before they finally distributed their first dime (eg, they got caught).

-hh

Subject: Re: Trump accuses Kamala Harris of staging Hurricane Helene briefing photo: 'You have to plug the cord into the phone for it to work!'
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>The US does not need to be made great again. It is great. And like any
>great country, also needs to evolve and change with the times.

BULLSHIT LIE! TRUMP MADE IT A SHITHOLE!

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Subject: FEMA running out of hurricane relief money while spending hundreds of millions on migrants
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(The Center Square) – Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas told reporters Wednesday that FEMA does not have enough funding to last the rest of the year even as it has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on migrants under the Biden administration and more hurricanes could be on the way.

DHS oversees FEMA, putting Mayorkas in charge of the emergency relief agency which has recently been focused on helping migrants settle in the U.S.

“We are meeting the immediate needs with the money that we have,” Mayorkas told reporters. “We are expecting another hurricane hitting. FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season.”

The startling admission by Mayorkas comes as FEMA grapples with the widespread damage of Hurricane Helene, A Category 4 hurricane that ripped through the southeast costing billions of dollars, causing widespread infrastructure damage, food shortages, and more than 100 deaths. Many are still unaccounted for as well.

President Joe Biden said earlier this week he may call on Congress to pass more funding for FEMA.

In April of this year, FEMA announced $640 million in new funding, $300 million for “direct funding” to help immigrants settle in the U.S. while the other $340 million went to cities via grants for the same purpose.

“Last year, more than $780 million was awarded through SSP and the Emergency Food and Shelter Program – Humanitarian Awards, which went to organizations and cities across the country,” FEMA said in its release.

While funding is allocated by Congress and money can be flexibly funneled through FEMA from other internal sources, Mayorkas’ comments still show that FEMA’s resources have been focused on migrants while it was left unprepared for this deadly hurricane season.

“FEMA has what it needs for immediate response and recovery efforts. As FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell has said, she has the full authority to spend against the President’s budget, but we’re not out of hurricane season yet so we need to keep a close eye on it," said Director of Public Affairs and FEMA Spokesperson Jaclyn Rothenberg. "We may need to go back into immediate needs funding and we will be watching it closely.”

Illegal immigration has soared under the Biden-Harris administration with millions of migrants entering the U.S. and overwhelming the federal government’s ability to process them, let alone catch the millions of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border.

Nearly 14 million illegal border crossers and inadmissables have been reported under the Biden-Harris administration, The Center Square exclusively reported. Members of Congress and border security experts estimate the figure is actually much higher.

Hurricane season is expected to go through the end of November.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_bbd61660-8198-11ef-a7d6-bfcf7006c777.html

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