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* Trump: "I Don't Own Dogs, I Eat Dogs"Vlad Putin
+- Black man left with serious injuries after Minneapolis stabbing, black immigrantTim Whopper Walz
`- Black man left with serious injuries after Minneapolis stabbing, black immigrantTim Whopper Walz

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Subject: Trump: "I Don't Own Dogs, I Eat Dogs"
From: Vlad Putin
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Subject: Trump: "I Don't Own Dogs, I Eat Dogs"
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Convicted Rapist and Felon Trump repeats baseless claim about Haitian
immigrants eating pets

A baseless claim that illegal immigrants from Haiti have been eating
domestic pets in a small Ohio city has been repeated by Donald Trump.

During ABC's presidential debate, Trump said: "In Springfield, they are
eating the dogs. The people that came in, they are eating the cats.
They�re eating � they are eating the pets of the people that live there."

But city officials have told BBC Verify there have been �no credible
reports" that this has actually happened.

The baseless claim had spread on social media, with Republican vice-
presidential candidate JD Vance promoting it on X. The post has had more
than 11 million views.

US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby called Vance's comments
"dangerous" and a "conspiracy theory... based on an element of racism".
Where did the claim come from?

The claim appears to have come from a number of different sources which
have been turned into a cohesive - though baseless - story by pro-Trump
social media accounts.

At a 27 August meeting of Springfield�s city commission, a local resident
who describes himself as a social media influencer launched into a speech
against Haitian immigrants.

He gave a long list of grievances, including that they were slaughtering
park ducks for food, and accused city officials of being paid to bring in
immigrants, but provided no evidence for these claims.

A claim about a cat being killed by Haitian immigrants was made on a
Facebook post focusing on crime in Springfield, and attributed by the
poster to the friend of a neighbour�s daughter.

During the presidential debate on Tuesday, Trump also claimed to have
seen �people on television [saying] �My dog was taken and used for
food��.

BBC Verify has looked at archive video of every major US broadcaster,
including Fox, CNN and CBS. We also used keywords to search for relevant
video on social media, and have not identified any televised interview of
this nature.

Separately, a news report - as well as police bodycam footage - from late
August about a woman arrested for killing and eating a cat has also been
circulating online.

Many right-wing commentators have referred to the woman as Haitian and
pointed to the report as evidence for the baseless claim that Haitian
immigrants have been engaged in similar activity.

However, the incident took place in Canton, Ohio, about 170 miles (273km)
away from Springfield.

Canton Police told the BBC that the suspect was born in 1997 and that she
was a US citizen. The department also told us "we have not dealt with any
complaints of Haitian immigrants at all."

BBC Verify spoke to the Springfield City Commission about the claims.

Officials told us: �There have been no credible reports or specific
claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the
immigrant community.�
Claims of other incidents

The claims have also been reflected in a post on Reddit with a photo of a
man carrying what appears to be a dead goose in Columbus, Ohio.

On 10 September, the conservative news outlet, The Federalist, published
a story with an audio recording allegedly from a non-emergency call to
police in Springfield. The caller claimed to have seen four Haitians
carrying four geese.

The article also features what is meant to be a police report from the
Clark County Sheriff�s Office about the call which it says was made on 26
August.

BBC Verify contacted the sheriff�s office and asked them whether the
audio recording and police report were true.

It directed us to a Springfield City government spokesperson who said
"these claims were not substantiated".
Memes go viral

Elon Musk has posted memes referring to the baseless claims which have
been viewed millions of times.

Charlie Kirk, the CEO of conservative activist group Turning Point, said:
�Residents of Springfield, OH are reporting that Haitians are eating
their family pets�.

And official Republican party social media channels, such as the
Republican House Judiciary Committee X account, have also referred to the
claims.

The account posted an AI-generated image of former president Trump
hugging a duck and a cat with the caption �Protect our ducks and kittens
in Ohio!�.

On Tuesday, Vance appeared to row back on his previous comment and said
on X: "It's possible, of course, that all of these rumors will turn out
to be false."

But he added: "keep the cat memes flowing".

On Sunday, when challenged about the claim on CNN, he replied: "The
evidence is the first-hand account of my constituents who are telling me
this happened."

"If i have to create stories so that the American media actually pays
attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what i'm
going to do", he added.
X/JudiciaryGOP A screenshot of the official Republican House Judiciary
Committee X account with an AI-generated image of former president Trump
hugging a duck and a cat with the caption "Protect our ducks and kittens
in Ohio!".X/JudiciaryGOP
Official Republican party social media channels, such as the Republican
House Judiciary Committee X account, have also referred to the claims.
Haitian immigrants in Springfield

Springfield, a rust belt city in south-west Ohio, is home to about 60,000
people and has seen thousands of immigrants arrive in recent years.

Many are from Haiti, and city officials say up to 20,000 have made
Springfield home in recent years, reversing a long decline that saw the
city�s population drop by more than 20,000 over the last 60 years.

The new arrivals have revitalised local industrial companies but have
also put a strain on public services. Vance, a senator representing Ohio
who grew up about an hour away from Springfield, has repeatedly talked
about the city on the campaign trail.

Subject: Black man left with serious injuries after Minneapolis stabbing, black immigrant woman arrested
From: Tim Whopper Walz
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https://kstp.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Fatuma-Salah.jpg
Fatuma Salah booking photo (Hennepin County Jail)

A man has potentially life-threatening injuries after being stabbed at an apartment building Tuesday morning.

Just after 6 a.m., Minneapolis police responded to a domestic stabbing on the 1000 block of Lake Street West. Neighbors reported they heard a woman screaming and a man saying he had been stabbed.

When police arrived, they found a woman, 28-year-old Fatuma Yusuf Salah, who was involved in the stabbing and arrested her.

A 30-year-old man also living in the apartment was brought to HCMC with a potentially life-threatening stab wound.

Salah was booked into Hennepin County Jail for second-degree domestic assault.

Minneapolis police are investigating the incident.

https://kstp.com/kstp-news/local-news/man-left-with-serious-injuries-after-minneapolis-stabbing-woman-arrested/

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