Rocksolid Light

News from da outaworlds

mail  files  register  groups  login

Message-ID:  

Lay on, MacDuff, and curs'd be him who first cries, "Hold, enough!". -- Shakespeare


talk / talk.politics.guns / Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrative

SubjectAuthor
* Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeJohn Smyth
+* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrativepothead
|`* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeMitchell Holman
| +* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeGovernor Swill
| |`- Right Wing Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Trump NarrativeChris Ahlstrom
| `* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeMitchell Holman
|  `* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrativemax headroom
|   `* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeMitchell Holman
|    `* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrativemax headroom
|     `* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeGovernor Swill
|      `* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrativemax headroom
|       +* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeGovernor Swill
|       |`* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrativemax headroom
|       | +* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeGovernor Swill
|       | |`* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrativemax headroom
|       | | +* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeGovernor Swill
|       | | |`* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrativemax headroom
|       | | | +- Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeSiri Cruise
|       | | | `- Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeSiri Cruise
|       | | `- Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeGovernor Swill
|       | `- Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeAl Feldhauser
|       +* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeNoBody
|       |+- Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeGovernor Swill
|       |`* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativePete Free
|       | `- Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeGovernor Swill
|       `* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativePete Free
|        `- Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeGovernor Swill
`* Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat NarrativeRob Turner
 `- Minneapolis Black Idiot Charged with Assault After Teen Injured in Cedar-RiversiWhitewashed Walz

Pages:12
Subject: Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrative
From: Governor Swill
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, talk.politics.guns
Organization: Easynews - www.easynews.com
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 17:00 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.netnews.com!s1-1.netnews.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx38.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: governor.swill@gmail.com (Governor Swill)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrative
Message-ID: <i1mlfjhpqco1a9oj2eal6j1un2gc3cvr5j@4ax.com>
References: <vchr8a$lr15$4@dont-email.me> <XnsB1F2D70BBAA14629555@185.151.15.160> <vcjtls$14hbl$2@dont-email.me> <XnsB1F380325ACDE629555@185.151.15.160> <vcl79a$1aflv$2@dont-email.me> <XnsB1F3D64F02345629555@185.151.15.190> <vcmk32$1kfl2$2@dont-email.me> <7l8uej1ig8ujh2f89pc0oh5eu2fndmlmbv@4ax.com> <vcoffe$24dp2$2@dont-email.me> <8cuvejts1usfp48pq6gat7271oh3m6kq6r@4ax.com> <vd9u5p$1dnpo$4@dont-email.me> <5daifj5s3bl64k4u0hc8hnpjdlgul81075@4ax.com> <vdc8c1$1rq34$3@dont-email.me>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 43
X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com
Organization: Easynews - www.easynews.com
X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly.
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 13:00:02 -0400
X-Received-Bytes: 2356
X-Original-Bytes: 2223
View all headers

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 11:24:55 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
wrote:

To repeat my correction of your lies.

>> The point is that nothing has changed in reporting. It has ever been thus.
>
>Wrong.

Show me how the crime rates published by the FBI changed from 2020 to 2021 (the
year the reporting changes were implemented).

>> The numbers didn't change when the reporting did. That means current
>> reporting is consistent with previous reporting.
>
>Wrong and wrong.

The crime numbers did not change in 2021. Crime levels for that year were
comparable to the 2020 numbers despite the reporting changes. In fact, the
crime numbers that went up BEFORE the reporting changes stayed high AFTER the
reporting changes, not falling much until 2023.

Stop lying. Just stop it. You're wasting your time.

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 37 days.

19) Trump caused the longest government shutdown in US
history when he didn't get funding for his border wall,
which he said Mexico was going to pay for.

20) Trump increased the national debt by 40% in just four years.

Subject: Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrative
From: max headroom
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, talk.politics.guns
Organization: Horseshoe Road Inn
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 05:56 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: maximusheadroom@gmx.com (max headroom)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrative
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 22:56:16 -0700
Organization: Horseshoe Road Inn
Lines: 62
Message-ID: <vdgu9d$2oeeo$7@dont-email.me>
References: <vchr8a$lr15$4@dont-email.me> <XnsB1F2D70BBAA14629555@185.151.15.160> <vcjtls$14hbl$2@dont-email.me> <XnsB1F380325ACDE629555@185.151.15.160> <vcl79a$1aflv$2@dont-email.me> <XnsB1F3D64F02345629555@185.151.15.190> <vcmk32$1kfl2$2@dont-email.me> <7l8uej1ig8ujh2f89pc0oh5eu2fndmlmbv@4ax.com> <vcoffe$24dp2$2@dont-email.me> <8cuvejts1usfp48pq6gat7271oh3m6kq6r@4ax.com> <vd9u5p$1dnpo$4@dont-email.me> <5daifj5s3bl64k4u0hc8hnpjdlgul81075@4ax.com> <vdc8c1$1rq34$3@dont-email.me> <lubkfjl0s8l991iub728bc2atuimjtdffs@4ax.com>
Injection-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 15:43:10 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2ca7401f4132c6ab4f618ddc5895c503";
logging-data="2898392"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1873O2iTtoFrVFmfAflPWzTNaNY5s8X8Kw="
Cancel-Lock: sha1:h5NiP1oOgd1Jaal/4YMgqN7xxM4=
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
X-Priority: 3
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931
View all headers

In news:lubkfjl0s8l991iub728bc2atuimjtdffs@4ax.com, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:

> On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 11:24:55 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>> In news:5daifj5s3bl64k4u0hc8hnpjdlgul81075@4ax.com, Governor Swill
>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> typed:
>>> On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 14:48:34 -0700, "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
>>> wrote:

>>>>>> are providing complete crime data to the FBI since its reporting system
>>>>>> changed in 2021."

>>>>> *Complete* crime data....

>>>> " ... fewer that half...."

>>>> https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs

>>>>> ... Reporting has changed little and if you look at the
>>>>> long term graphs, you'll see crime falling steadily with occasional spikes
>>>>> since the earl nineteen nineties. This is bad news for the right as it
>>>>> impinges on their ability to whip their voters to the polls with fears
>>>>> that they're going to be gang raped by a bunch of HIV infected, Venezuelan
>>>>> transgender gang members at any moment.

>>>>>>> Trump inherited a falling crime trend. After three years of his
>>>>>>> administration, violent crime rates exploded. It took the Biden
>>>>>>> administration a couple of years to bring it back down again.

>>>>>> "But the opposite is true: Between 2016 and 2020, violent crime fell by
>>>>>> 17% under Trump - and soared by 43% under Biden between 2020 and 2022."

>>>>> Biden wasn't President in 2020 when that crime spike started and by 2022
>>>>> it had begun to fall off in line with pre COVID crime trends.

>>>>> Btw, if the reporting changed in 2021, how does that explain the high
>>>>> rates of 2020 *and* the low rates following 2021?

>>>> Incomplete reporting.

>>> The point is that nothing has changed in reporting. It has ever been thus.

>> Wrong.

>>> The numbers didn't change when the reporting did. That means current
>>> reporting is consistent with previous reporting.

>> Wrong and wrong.

> LOL! You're so desperate to make a point with numbers that you're ignoring
> the real ones.

> Crime spiked in 2020 - while Trump was President. Reporting methods were
> updated in 2021. Crime remained high through 2022. That is, updating
> reporting methodology did NOT affect reported rates - they remained
> consistent through the reporting change. Crime dropped sharply in 2023 TWO
> years after the reporting changes.

Cites?

Subject: Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrative
From: Siri Cruise
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.republicans, talk.politics.guns
Organization: Pseudochaotic
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 20:14 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com (Siri Cruise)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Media Push Misleading Crime Stats To Protect Democrat Narrative
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 13:14:50 -0700
Organization: Pseudochaotic
Lines: 15
Message-ID: <vdhl7q$2sage$1@dont-email.me>
References: <vchr8a$lr15$4@dont-email.me>
<XnsB1F2D70BBAA14629555@185.151.15.160> <vcjtls$14hbl$2@dont-email.me>
<XnsB1F380325ACDE629555@185.151.15.160> <vcl79a$1aflv$2@dont-email.me>
<XnsB1F3D64F02345629555@185.151.15.190> <vcmk32$1kfl2$2@dont-email.me>
<7l8uej1ig8ujh2f89pc0oh5eu2fndmlmbv@4ax.com> <vcoffe$24dp2$2@dont-email.me>
<8cuvejts1usfp48pq6gat7271oh3m6kq6r@4ax.com> <vd9u5p$1dnpo$4@dont-email.me>
<5daifj5s3bl64k4u0hc8hnpjdlgul81075@4ax.com> <vdc8c1$1rq34$3@dont-email.me>
<lubkfjl0s8l991iub728bc2atuimjtdffs@4ax.com> <vdgu9d$2oeeo$7@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 22:14:51 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d276490e4aaf0568fdc447094535ee0b";
logging-data="3025422"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18MNxm+Rk4wMSsyurPB31hrLJ2gW30/kEM="
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 11.7; rv:91.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19
Cancel-Lock: sha1:OrAlQgNiCXWIlC4rpihPtfZgBEI=
In-Reply-To: <vdgu9d$2oeeo$7@dont-email.me>
View all headers

max headroom wrote:
>> Crime spiked in 2020 - while Trump was President. Reporting methods were
>> updated in 2021. Crime remained high through 2022. That is, updating
>> reporting methodology did NOT affect reported rates - they remained
>> consistent through the reporting change. Crime dropped sharply in 2023 TWO
>> years after the reporting changes.
> Cites?

FBI UCR?

--
Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

Pages:12

rocksolid light 0.9.8
clearnet tor