On 22 Sep 2024 15:34:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 21, 2024 at 9:46:02?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
><h68vejdtfhnlbv89mjn6360j4ebmcdjdc5@4ax.com>:
>
>> On 22 Sep 2024 03:18:03 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 7:05:25?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>> <66ef7b65$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> In article <66ef6763$0$3068677$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>> Political figures often use promises like "fixing things on day one" as part
>>>>> of their campaign messaging. It?s a way to communicate urgency and commitment
>>>>> to taking immediate action on important issues.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So it's a lie.
>>>
>>> Q for ChatGPT:
>>> -----
>>> Who lies more: Harris or Trump? Whose lies are more damaging?
>>> Answer in the style of Hunter S Thompson:
>>> -----
>>>
>>> A from ChatGPT:
>>> -----
>>> Listen, comparing Harris to Trump in the lying game is like
>>> comparing a house cat to a goddamn Bengal tiger. Harris plays the
>>> politician?s game?slick, polished, the occasional dodge, sure. But
>>> Trump? Jesus, he?s something else. The man?s a human fog machine,
>>> cranking out a never-ending cloud of bullshit. It?s not just that
>>> he lies, it?s that he does it with this brazen, maniacal swagger,
>>> like the truth is some annoying fly buzzing around his head. Swat
>>> it away, who needs it?
>>>
>>> Trump?s lies, though?hell, they?re not harmless little fibs. No,
>>> no, these are weapons, fully loaded and pointed at the fragile
>>> brains of his loyal, glassy-eyed followers. He spews nonsense
>>> about a rigged election, fans the flames of a pandemic like a
>>> lunatic pyromaniac, and before you know it, there?s an
>>> insurrection at the goddamn Capitol. People are getting sick,
>>> dying by the thousands, and he?s out there calling it a hoax,
>>> tossing his followers into a reality distortion field and watching
>>> as they eat it up.
>>>
>>> Harris? Sure, she spins, exaggerates a bit. But she?s not out
>>> there unraveling the fabric of democracy or leaving a trail of
>>> destruction in her wake. She?s playing by the standard rules of
>>> the political cesspool, while Trump?s tearing through the place
>>> like a crazed gorilla with a flamethrower. Damage? Don?t kid
>>> yourself. Harris might bruise an ego here or there, but Trump
>>> leaves the whole damn country bleeding.
>>> -----
>>>
>>> That answers the question AND gives context.
>>
>> What damns AI is how on target it is.
>
>It is pretty amazing... both in content and "voice" of an author.
>>
>> Being rich, I should be allowed to do whatever I want. -- Donald Trump
>
>I have heard this attributed to him but do not recall when / where it came
>from. Looking now I do not see it. Can you show a source?

I don't remember where I got it.

Not that it matters. If the right can dish it out, they'd best be prepared to
take it.

What will they be like if Trump gives them immunity?
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0bbUMghq6fw>

--

05) Trump said there were very fine people among the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville.
06) Trump allied himself with the Proud Boys, a violent hate group who
helped organize the attack on the Capitol. "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by."

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 14:24:09 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
wrote:

>
>Correct. It was an extractive economy in the heyday of the the oil industry
>antitrust rulings in the early 1900's, and in the American sweatshops.
>
>Then reforms eventually took hold, along with more compassionate rulings.
>
>Then we got Citizen's United, giving the wealthy corporations great leverage
>over Congress.

My only problem with Citizen's United is the anonymity.

Supposedly, anybody can get up on their soapbox and speak their mind, and
supposedly money equals free speech. But when was the last time you saw
somebody get up on their soapbox with a bag on their head?

All contributions to any and all types of political entities should be fully
disclosed in a permanent, publicly accessible record.

--

05) Trump said there were very fine people among the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville.
06) Trump allied himself with the Proud Boys, a violent hate group who
helped organize the attack on the Capitol. "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by."

On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:53:35 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<oa41fjd46c5ko85t4jmbmgnasd57ua5ge4@4ax.com>:

> On 22 Sep 2024 15:32:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 4:17:43?AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> <55vvej9962crqkqta594rb6i5dfa496cba@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On 22 Sep 2024 03:44:33 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 6:35:12?PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>> <NgGdnXvsZ_vN6XL7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 6:16:41?PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>> <XdOcnbtkmf9n8nL7nZ2dnZfqnPYAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 6:05:43?PM MST, "%" wrote
>>>>>>>> <maCdnXhkB4n18HL7nZ2dnZfqn_cAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 5:34:40?PM MST, ""No Jan 6 insurrection, never was."" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <55ef3825c79d895d13ec0981a97f76e8@dizum.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <d60uejpdkb4eihbgl3v0725d534ngn4qbj@4ax.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...... Why Does Kamala Harris Keep Promising To "Fix Things" on Day One?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hah! You got her there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Political figures often use promises like "fixing things on day one" as part
>>>>>>>>>> of their campaign messaging. It?s a way to communicate urgency and commitment
>>>>>>>>>> to taking immediate action on important issues.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reasons for the "Day One" Promise:
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Signaling Prioritization: It indicates that the issue is a top priority and
>>>>>>>>>> will be addressed right away.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Demonstrating Competence and Resolve:** It shows that the candidate or
>>>>>>>>>> official is prepared, decisive, and ready to act as soon as they take office.
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Appealing to Voters: It can attract voters who are frustrated with the
>>>>>>>>>> current situation and want immediate change.
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Setting Expectations: It creates a clear benchmark for what the candidate
>>>>>>>>>> plans to achieve quickly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> While the phrase can be compelling, the reality of achieving complex policy
>>>>>>>>>> changes on "day one" is often more nuanced, as many actions require
>>>>>>>>>> cooperation, legislation, or lengthy administrative processes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> they're allowed to not keep 10% of their promises
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 90% would still be an A.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> think of it as usenet ,
>>>>>>> well it's the exact same thing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump is much like some of the Usenet trolls.
>>>>>>
>>>>> exactly and the more noise they make the more attention they get
>>>>
>>>> I had fun tonight... asked ChatGPT: "Who lies more: Harris or Trump? Whose
>>>> lies are more damaging?" then asked it to repeat the answer in the style of a
>>>> couple authors. It is pretty amazing in what it does. I shared Hunter S.
>>>> Thompson elsewhere, here is Harlan Ellison:
>>>> -----
>>>> In the grand circus of liars, you've got two performers: Harris
>>>> and Trump. But comparing the two is like measuring raindrops
>>>> against a hurricane. Trump? He?s not just a liar, he?s a firehose
>>>> of falsehoods. He doesn?t bend the truth?he annihilates it with
>>>> brute force. His lies are a relentless assault, from the
>>>> groundless claims about election fraud to the dangerous
>>>> downplaying of a pandemic that swallowed hundreds of thousands of
>>>> lives. The man throws reality in a blender, hits "liquefy," and
>>>> serves it up to a ravenous, fact-starved crowd. January 6? That
>>>> wasn?t just a hiccup in history; it was a direct result of his
>>>> fantastical alternate universe.
>>>>
>>>> Harris, on the other hand, might play fast and loose with the
>>>> truth here and there, exaggerating for the sake of a point,
>>>> stretching the elastic of political spin. But the consequences?
>>>> They?re not in the same league. Her occasional fibs don?t shake
>>>> the very foundation of democracy or push people toward violence.
>>>> She?s the magician using sleight of hand, while Trump?s out here
>>>> dynamiting the whole damn stage.
>>>>
>>>> When it comes to damage, it's not even a contest. Harris whispers;
>>>> Trump screams, and the echo of his lies is still rattling through
>>>> the halls of American history.
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> ChatGPT, of course, is hardly the oracle of all knowledge and is not always
>>>> correct... but in this case it is amazingly accurate and well stated.
>>>
>>> Agreed.
>>
>> I expected it to be set to be more "balanced" in terms of what it says. Good
>> to see it seeks to be accurate and fair.
>>>
>>> "Ukraine destroys Russian ammunition depots near occupied Mariupol, Navy says"
>>> <https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/09/17/ukraine-destroys-russian-ammunition-depots-near-occupied-mariupol-navy-says/>
>>> "US believes Zelensky's peace strategy 'can work,' official says"
>>> <https://kyivindependent.com/us-believes-zelenskys-peace-strategy-can-work-official-says/>
>>> "None of Ukraine's plans to end the war envisages ceasefire, ceding territory,
>>> Podolyak says"
>>> <https://kyivindependent.com/none-of-ukraines-plans-to-end-the-war-envisages-ceasefire-ceding-territory-podolyak-says/>
>>
>> Russia is not gonna like how this ends.
>
> Call me a hard liner if you like, but Russia must not be allowed to keep a
> single square foot of land it took.

I agree. And there should be other consequences.

> The lesson must be taught not only to
> Russia, but to China as well that expanding national borders by military means
> will no longer be tolerated.
>
> Reason 48) Trump ordered his staff not to turn over emails showing Don Jr. had
> set up a meeting at Trump Tower before the 2016 election with representatives
> of
> the Russian government.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:56:40 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<uh41fj9ougv6alj8pate2dsm5ogs2j83gc@4ax.com>:

> On 22 Sep 2024 15:34:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 9:46:02?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> <h68vejdtfhnlbv89mjn6360j4ebmcdjdc5@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On 22 Sep 2024 03:18:03 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 7:05:25?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>> <66ef7b65$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <66ef6763$0$3068677$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>> Political figures often use promises like "fixing things on day one" as part
>>>>>> of their campaign messaging. It?s a way to communicate urgency and commitment
>>>>>> to taking immediate action on important issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So it's a lie.
>>>>
>>>> Q for ChatGPT:
>>>> -----
>>>> Who lies more: Harris or Trump? Whose lies are more damaging?
>>>> Answer in the style of Hunter S Thompson:
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> A from ChatGPT:
>>>> -----
>>>> Listen, comparing Harris to Trump in the lying game is like
>>>> comparing a house cat to a goddamn Bengal tiger. Harris plays the
>>>> politician?s game?slick, polished, the occasional dodge, sure. But
>>>> Trump? Jesus, he?s something else. The man?s a human fog machine,
>>>> cranking out a never-ending cloud of bullshit. It?s not just that
>>>> he lies, it?s that he does it with this brazen, maniacal swagger,
>>>> like the truth is some annoying fly buzzing around his head. Swat
>>>> it away, who needs it?
>>>>
>>>> Trump?s lies, though?hell, they?re not harmless little fibs. No,
>>>> no, these are weapons, fully loaded and pointed at the fragile
>>>> brains of his loyal, glassy-eyed followers. He spews nonsense
>>>> about a rigged election, fans the flames of a pandemic like a
>>>> lunatic pyromaniac, and before you know it, there?s an
>>>> insurrection at the goddamn Capitol. People are getting sick,
>>>> dying by the thousands, and he?s out there calling it a hoax,
>>>> tossing his followers into a reality distortion field and watching
>>>> as they eat it up.
>>>>
>>>> Harris? Sure, she spins, exaggerates a bit. But she?s not out
>>>> there unraveling the fabric of democracy or leaving a trail of
>>>> destruction in her wake. She?s playing by the standard rules of
>>>> the political cesspool, while Trump?s tearing through the place
>>>> like a crazed gorilla with a flamethrower. Damage? Don?t kid
>>>> yourself. Harris might bruise an ego here or there, but Trump
>>>> leaves the whole damn country bleeding.
>>>> -----
>>>>
>>>> That answers the question AND gives context.
>>>
>>> What damns AI is how on target it is.
>>
>> It is pretty amazing... both in content and "voice" of an author.
>>>
>>> Being rich, I should be allowed to do whatever I want. -- Donald Trump
>>
>> I have heard this attributed to him but do not recall when / where it came
>> from. Looking now I do not see it. Can you show a source?
>
> I don't remember where I got it.
>
> Not that it matters. If the right can dish it out, they'd best be prepared to
> take it.

I still want to be accurate (though parody and the like is fine)
>
> What will they be like if Trump gives them immunity?
> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0bbUMghq6fw>

We need police... but they need to be held accountable.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 22 Sep 2024 22:18:46 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:53:35?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> On 22 Sep 2024 15:32:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 4:17:43?AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<snip>
>>>> "Ukraine destroys Russian ammunition depots near occupied Mariupol, Navy says"
>>>> <https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/09/17/ukraine-destroys-russian-ammunition-depots-near-occupied-mariupol-navy-says/>
>>>> "US believes Zelensky's peace strategy 'can work,' official says"
>>>> <https://kyivindependent.com/us-believes-zelenskys-peace-strategy-can-work-official-says/>
>>>> "None of Ukraine's plans to end the war envisages ceasefire, ceding territory,
>>>> Podolyak says"
>>>> <https://kyivindependent.com/none-of-ukraines-plans-to-end-the-war-envisages-ceasefire-ceding-territory-podolyak-says/>
>>> Russia is not gonna like how this ends.
>> Call me a hard liner if you like, but Russia must not be allowed to keep a
>> single square foot of land it took.

>I agree. And there should be other consequences.

Proceed with caution on the subject of war reparations.

Heavy reparations following WWI brought us WWII. WWII was followed not by
reparations but by investment and has brought us a peace dividend that will be a
century old within a generation.

I'd rather see Russia coaxed back into the European sphere where it can more
easily be part of preventing Chinese domination. One carrot for this is for
Russia to realize that Beijing has its eye on outer Manchuria and god knows what
other Russian territory in far eastern Asia.

To that end, the Russo/Japanese dispute over the Kuril Islands should be
peacefully resolved and the Siberian independence movement addressed.

--

05) Trump said there were very fine people among the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville.
06) Trump allied himself with the Proud Boys, a violent hate group who
helped organize the attack on the Capitol. "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by."

On Sep 22, 2024 at 5:15:12 PM MST, "ferguson" wrote
<be7a5e12464b05aa7e4f66dd9c0d8eae@dizum.com>:

> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:66f08748$0$3068683$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 11:24:09 AM MST, "Chris Ahlstrom" wrote
>> <vcpncb$2a0ta$2@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> Snit wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> The country is in deep trouble... that is a symptom of the disease
>>>> and not the disease itself.
>>>
>>> Correct. It was an extractive economy in the heyday of the the oil
>>> industry antitrust rulings in the early 1900's, and in the American
>>> sweatshops.
>>>
>>> Then reforms eventually took hold, along with more compassionate
>>> rulings.
>>>
>>> Then we got Citizen's United, giving the wealthy corporations great
>>> leverage over Congress.
>>
>> Horrible decision.
>>>
>>> That leverage moved us back to an extractive economy (how nations
>>> fail), and many people (people at the margins, rural people,
>>> blue-collar workers) felt the thumb of the oligarchs.
>>>
>>> That gave enery to rich boy Apprentice Trump's "I alone can fix it"
>>> nonsense.
>>>
>>> (Oversimplification admitted)
>>
>> The *Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission* decision,
>> delivered by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2010, had profound impacts on
>> the American political landscape. Here are the key effects and
>> consequences:
>>
>> ### 1. **Increased Influence of Money in Politics:**
>> - The ruling allowed corporations, unions, and other organizations
>> to spend
>> unlimited amounts of money on political campaigns, as long as the
>> spending was independent of the candidates' campaigns themselves. This
>> led to a significant increase in political spending, particularly from
>> wealthy individuals and special interest groups.
>>
>> ### 2. **Proliferation of Super PACs:**
>> - The decision gave rise to the creation of Super Political Action
>> Committees (Super PACs), which can raise and spend unlimited amounts
>> of money to support or oppose candidates. Super PACs are technically
>> prohibited from coordinating directly with campaigns, but they often
>> operate in close proximity to candidates and their strategies.
>>
>> ### 3. **Shift in Political Power Dynamics:**
>> - The ruling shifted power towards wealthy donors and large
>> organizations,
>> enabling them to have a greater influence over political discourse and
>> elections. Critics argue that this has led to a system where elected
>> officials may be more responsive to their financial backers than to
>> their constituents.
>>
>> ### 4. **Impact on Campaign Messaging:**
>> - With increased funding, political messaging has become more
>> aggressive
>> and widespread. Super PACs and other independent groups often fund
>> negative advertising campaigns, which can heavily influence public
>> opinion and the outcome of elections.
>>
>> ### 5. **Legal and Political Controversy:**
>> - The decision remains highly controversial. Proponents argue it
>> protects
>> free speech by allowing all entities to express their views through
>> financial contributions. Opponents argue it undermines democracy by
>> allowing wealthy interests to dominate the political process and drown
>> out the voices of ordinary citizens.
>>
>> ### 6. **Increased Transparency Issues:**
>> - Although political spending increased, transparency did not
>> always follow
>> suit. Many organizations use “dark money” groups to channel funds
>> without disclosing their donors. This lack of transparency makes it
>> difficult to track who is influencing elections and policy decisions.
>>
>> ### 7. **Policy and Legislative Responses:**
>> - In response to the ruling, there have been various legislative
>> and
>> advocacy efforts aimed at increasing transparency and reducing the
>> influence of money in politics. Proposals like the DISCLOSE Act, which
>> would require greater disclosure of political spending, have been
>> introduced but face significant political hurdles.
>>
>> ### 8. **Long-Term Electoral Impact:**
>> - The decision has affected not just federal elections but also
>> state and
>> local races, where large sums of money can have an outsized impact. It
>> has contributed to the entrenchment of political polarization and the
>> rise of candidates who are more extreme, as they can attract funding
>> from highly ideological donors.
>>
>> Overall, the *Citizens United* decision fundamentally changed the
>> landscape of American elections and campaign finance, with lasting and
>> widespread implications for political campaigns, governance, and the
>> influence of money in politics.
>
> That's how Obama, Biden and Pelosi got rich.

The *Citizens United* decision reshaped the political landscape in a way that
affected all major political figures, including Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy
Pelosi, and contemporary Republican leaders such as Donald Trump, Mitch
McConnell, and Paul Ryan. While Obama, Biden, and Pelosi publicly criticized
the ruling, they, like their Republican counterparts, benefited indirectly in
several ways:

### **Democratic Figures:**
1. **Increased Campaign Contributions:**
- **For Obama and Biden:** The ruling allowed for increased spending by
Super PACs and independent groups, which supported Democratic candidates and
causes. For example, during Obama's 2012 re-election campaign, pro-Obama Super
PACs like Priorities USA Action raised and spent millions to counteract
similar efforts from Republican groups. While Obama initially opposed Super
PACs, his campaign ultimately embraced their support to remain competitive.
- **For Biden:** During the 2020 election, pro-Biden Super PACs and
independent groups played a significant role. Groups like Unite the Country
and Future Forward USA Action spent millions supporting Biden’s candidacy and
attacking Donald Trump.

2. **Support for Democratic Causes and Candidates:**
- **Pelosi's Role:** As Speaker of the House, Pelosi benefited from
increased fundraising and spending that helped maintain and expand the
Democratic majority in the House. Super PACs and dark money groups supported
various Democratic candidates and causes aligned with her agenda. While Pelosi
herself was critical of the decision, she navigated the post-*Citizens United*
environment to strengthen Democratic fundraising and campaign efforts.

3. **Balancing Against Republican Spending:**
- Both Obama and Biden faced well-funded Republican opposition,
particularly in the 2012 and 2020 elections, respectively. The *Citizens
United* ruling allowed Democratic-aligned groups to raise funds more
effectively to counter the significant spending from Republican and
conservative groups. This was crucial in competitive races where both sides
needed significant resources for advertising, outreach, and ground operations.

4. **Mobilizing the Democratic Base:**
- The decision also provided an opportunity to galvanize the Democratic
base around the issue of campaign finance reform. Obama, Biden, and Pelosi all
used their opposition to the ruling to rally supporters who were concerned
about the influence of money in politics. This helped them frame their
campaigns as fights against corporate interests and for democratic reforms.

5. **Funding for Policy Advocacy and Legislative Efforts:**
- *Citizens United* facilitated the growth of nonprofit advocacy groups
that aligned with Democratic policy goals. Organizations like the Center for
American Progress and others received increased funding, enabling them to
advocate for progressive policies and support Democratic legislative agendas.

### **Republican Figures:**
1. **Increased Financial Support from Conservative Groups:**
- **For Trump:** Donald Trump benefited from significant support from Super
PACs and independent expenditure groups in both the 2016 and 2020 elections.
Groups like America First Action and Great America PAC spent millions on
advertising and mobilization efforts to support his campaign and policies.
- **For McConnell and Ryan:** As key Republican leaders in Congress, Mitch
McConnell and Paul Ryan benefited from increased fundraising capabilities for
GOP campaigns. McConnell, in particular, has been a vocal supporter of the
*Citizens United* decision, arguing that it upholds free speech rights.

On 22 Sep 2024 22:18:39 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:56:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
><uh41fj9ougv6alj8pate2dsm5ogs2j83gc@4ax.com>:
>
>> On 22 Sep 2024 15:34:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 9:46:02?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>> <h68vejdtfhnlbv89mjn6360j4ebmcdjdc5@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 03:18:03 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 7:05:25?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>> <66ef7b65$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <66ef6763$0$3068677$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>> Political figures often use promises like "fixing things on day one" as part
>>>>>>> of their campaign messaging. It?s a way to communicate urgency and commitment
>>>>>>> to taking immediate action on important issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it's a lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> Q for ChatGPT:
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Who lies more: Harris or Trump? Whose lies are more damaging?
>>>>> Answer in the style of Hunter S Thompson:
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> A from ChatGPT:
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Listen, comparing Harris to Trump in the lying game is like
>>>>> comparing a house cat to a goddamn Bengal tiger. Harris plays the
>>>>> politician?s game?slick, polished, the occasional dodge, sure. But
>>>>> Trump? Jesus, he?s something else. The man?s a human fog machine,
>>>>> cranking out a never-ending cloud of bullshit. It?s not just that
>>>>> he lies, it?s that he does it with this brazen, maniacal swagger,
>>>>> like the truth is some annoying fly buzzing around his head. Swat
>>>>> it away, who needs it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump?s lies, though?hell, they?re not harmless little fibs. No,
>>>>> no, these are weapons, fully loaded and pointed at the fragile
>>>>> brains of his loyal, glassy-eyed followers. He spews nonsense
>>>>> about a rigged election, fans the flames of a pandemic like a
>>>>> lunatic pyromaniac, and before you know it, there?s an
>>>>> insurrection at the goddamn Capitol. People are getting sick,
>>>>> dying by the thousands, and he?s out there calling it a hoax,
>>>>> tossing his followers into a reality distortion field and watching
>>>>> as they eat it up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Harris? Sure, she spins, exaggerates a bit. But she?s not out
>>>>> there unraveling the fabric of democracy or leaving a trail of
>>>>> destruction in her wake. She?s playing by the standard rules of
>>>>> the political cesspool, while Trump?s tearing through the place
>>>>> like a crazed gorilla with a flamethrower. Damage? Don?t kid
>>>>> yourself. Harris might bruise an ego here or there, but Trump
>>>>> leaves the whole damn country bleeding.
>>>>> -----
>>>>>
>>>>> That answers the question AND gives context.
>>>>
>>>> What damns AI is how on target it is.
>>>
>>> It is pretty amazing... both in content and "voice" of an author.
>>>>
>>>> Being rich, I should be allowed to do whatever I want. -- Donald Trump
>>>
>>> I have heard this attributed to him but do not recall when / where it came
>>> from. Looking now I do not see it. Can you show a source?
>>
>> I don't remember where I got it.
>>
>> Not that it matters. If the right can dish it out, they'd best be prepared to
>> take it.
>
>I still want to be accurate (though parody and the like is fine)

I've already deleted the quote since I can no longer cite the source. On other
subjects though, I want rightists to feel what it's like to discover you've been
deliberately lied to to your face and there is absolutely nothing you can do to
prevent that lie from being accepted as the truth.

>> What will they be like if Trump gives them immunity?
>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0bbUMghq6fw>
>
>We need police... but they need to be held accountable.

Precisely. And they need to be more than ex-soldiers designed to suppress
loudness. There is a place in modern policing for professional training in
psychology and human behavior.

Cops lie to the courts and for each other. That has to stop. As kids we were
educated to believe cops were honest and interested in our safety and well
being. We then grow up to discover we've been duped into giving them power
nobody should have over their fellow citizens outside war time.

Bully cops
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EnLs8rEfny4>

--

05) Trump said there were very fine people among the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville.
06) Trump allied himself with the Proud Boys, a violent hate group who
helped organize the attack on the Capitol. "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by."

On Sep 22, 2024 at 6:54:25 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<63i1fjpddcc5agqi7cbg7fetmc86o420p3@4ax.com>:

> On 22 Sep 2024 22:18:46 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:53:35?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>> On 22 Sep 2024 15:32:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 4:17:43?AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> <snip>
>>>>> "Ukraine destroys Russian ammunition depots near occupied Mariupol, Navy says"
>>>>> <https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/09/17/ukraine-destroys-russian-ammunition-depots-near-occupied-mariupol-navy-says/>
>>>>> "US believes Zelensky's peace strategy 'can work,' official says"
>>>>> <https://kyivindependent.com/us-believes-zelenskys-peace-strategy-can-work-official-says/>
>>>>> "None of Ukraine's plans to end the war envisages ceasefire, ceding territory,
>>>>> Podolyak says"
>>>>> <https://kyivindependent.com/none-of-ukraines-plans-to-end-the-war-envisages-ceasefire-ceding-territory-podolyak-says/>
>>>> Russia is not gonna like how this ends.
>>> Call me a hard liner if you like, but Russia must not be allowed to keep a
>>> single square foot of land it took.
>
>> I agree. And there should be other consequences.
>
> Proceed with caution on the subject of war reparations.
>
> Heavy reparations following WWI brought us WWII. WWII was followed not by
> reparations but by investment and has brought us a peace dividend that will be
> a
> century old within a generation.

I am OK with that... but I do not want Russia to think they can keep doing
this. Or other countries.
>
> I'd rather see Russia coaxed back into the European sphere where it can more
> easily be part of preventing Chinese domination. One carrot for this is for
> Russia to realize that Beijing has its eye on outer Manchuria and god knows
> what
> other Russian territory in far eastern Asia.
>
> To that end, the Russo/Japanese dispute over the Kuril Islands should be
> peacefully resolved and the Siberian independence movement addressed.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Mon, 23 Sep 2024 02:15:12 +0200 (CEST), ferguson <ferguson@msu.edu> wrote:

>> Overall, the *Citizens United* decision fundamentally changed the
>> landscape of American elections and campaign finance, with lasting and
>> widespread implications for political campaigns, governance, and the
>> influence of money in politics.
>
>That's how Obama, Biden and Pelosi got rich.

Yet another troll who doesn't know what the topic is.

A big brain move
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pel90KodmdA>

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05) Trump said there were very fine people among the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville.
06) Trump allied himself with the Proud Boys, a violent hate group who
helped organize the attack on the Capitol. "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by."

Snit wrote:
>> Call me a hard liner if you like, but Russia must not be allowed to keep a
>> single square foot of land it took.
> I agree. And there should be other consequences.

How about respecting Ukraine's sovereignty and letting them decide
their peace? If Ukraine and Russia mutually decide to alter their
border, that is their business.

I hope they get peace, but I do not have a say.

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On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:07:31 PM MST, "Siri Cruise" wrote
<vcqih4$2ht0b$1@dont-email.me>:

> Snit wrote:
>>> Call me a hard liner if you like, but Russia must not be allowed to keep a
>>> single square foot of land it took.
>> I agree. And there should be other consequences.
>
> How about respecting Ukraine's sovereignty and letting them decide
> their peace? If Ukraine and Russia mutually decide to alter their
> border, that is their business.

Mutually decide? LOL!

>
> I hope they get peace, but I do not have a say.

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:07:31 PM MST, "Siri Cruise" wrote
> <vcqih4$2ht0b$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> Snit wrote:
>>>> Call me a hard liner if you like, but Russia must not be allowed to keep a
>>>> single square foot of land it took.
>>> I agree. And there should be other consequences.
>>
>> How about respecting Ukraine's sovereignty and letting them decide
>> their peace? If Ukraine and Russia mutually decide to alter their
>> border, that is their business.
>
> Mutually decide? LOL!
>
>>
>> I hope they get peace, but I do not have a say.
>
>
trump did it

On Sun, 22 Sep 2024 19:07:31 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Snit wrote:
>>> Call me a hard liner if you like, but Russia must not be allowed to keep a
>>> single square foot of land it took.
>> I agree. And there should be other consequences.
>
>How about respecting Ukraine's sovereignty and letting them decide
>their peace? If Ukraine and Russia mutually decide to alter their
>border, that is their business.
>
>I hope they get peace, but I do not have a say.

You mean peace as long as Ukraine is willing to give up territory?

It was a beautiful thing to see
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7x6ficl5MJM>

--

07) Trump extreme conservative judicial appointments.
1 in 3 American women now live in a state with an abortion ban.
08) One of Trump's SCOTUS nominees, Bret Kavanaugh, was
accused of sexual assault by multiple women.
The only other SCOTUS justice to be so accused was
Clarence Thomas, also a noted conservative.

On 23 Sep 2024 02:00:18 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
>2. **Support for Democratic Causes and Candidates:**
> - **Pelosi's Role:** As Speaker of the House, Pelosi benefited from
>increased fundraising and spending that helped maintain and expand the
>Democratic majority in the House. Super PACs and dark money groups supported
>various Democratic candidates and causes aligned with her agenda. While Pelosi
>herself was critical of the decision, she navigated the post-*Citizens United*
>environment to strengthen Democratic fundraising and campaign efforts.

One of the reasons Pelosi had so much power for so long in her party was her
ability as a fundraiser.

TL;DR

$200,000 for doing nothing
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i-I24-7oqc0>

--

07) Trump extreme conservative judicial appointments.
1 in 3 American women now live in a state with an abortion ban.
08) One of Trump's SCOTUS nominees, Bret Kavanaugh, was
accused of sexual assault by multiple women.
The only other SCOTUS justice to be so accused was
Clarence Thomas, also a noted conservative.

On 21/09/2024 18:24, John Smyth wrote:
> ...... Why Does Kamala Harris Keep Promising To "Fix Things" on Day One?

Quit trolling in ACW, John.

On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:01:31 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<bji1fjtu8rpgmet7hv9oq67a0vj59s64ra@4ax.com>:

> On 22 Sep 2024 22:18:39 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:56:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> <uh41fj9ougv6alj8pate2dsm5ogs2j83gc@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On 22 Sep 2024 15:34:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 9:46:02?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>> <h68vejdtfhnlbv89mjn6360j4ebmcdjdc5@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 03:18:03 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 7:05:25?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>>> <66ef7b65$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <66ef6763$0$3068677$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>> Political figures often use promises like "fixing things on day one" as part
>>>>>>>> of their campaign messaging. It?s a way to communicate urgency and commitment
>>>>>>>> to taking immediate action on important issues.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it's a lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Q for ChatGPT:
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Who lies more: Harris or Trump? Whose lies are more damaging?
>>>>>> Answer in the style of Hunter S Thompson:
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A from ChatGPT:
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Listen, comparing Harris to Trump in the lying game is like
>>>>>> comparing a house cat to a goddamn Bengal tiger. Harris plays the
>>>>>> politician?s game?slick, polished, the occasional dodge, sure. But
>>>>>> Trump? Jesus, he?s something else. The man?s a human fog machine,
>>>>>> cranking out a never-ending cloud of bullshit. It?s not just that
>>>>>> he lies, it?s that he does it with this brazen, maniacal swagger,
>>>>>> like the truth is some annoying fly buzzing around his head. Swat
>>>>>> it away, who needs it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump?s lies, though?hell, they?re not harmless little fibs. No,
>>>>>> no, these are weapons, fully loaded and pointed at the fragile
>>>>>> brains of his loyal, glassy-eyed followers. He spews nonsense
>>>>>> about a rigged election, fans the flames of a pandemic like a
>>>>>> lunatic pyromaniac, and before you know it, there?s an
>>>>>> insurrection at the goddamn Capitol. People are getting sick,
>>>>>> dying by the thousands, and he?s out there calling it a hoax,
>>>>>> tossing his followers into a reality distortion field and watching
>>>>>> as they eat it up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Harris? Sure, she spins, exaggerates a bit. But she?s not out
>>>>>> there unraveling the fabric of democracy or leaving a trail of
>>>>>> destruction in her wake. She?s playing by the standard rules of
>>>>>> the political cesspool, while Trump?s tearing through the place
>>>>>> like a crazed gorilla with a flamethrower. Damage? Don?t kid
>>>>>> yourself. Harris might bruise an ego here or there, but Trump
>>>>>> leaves the whole damn country bleeding.
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That answers the question AND gives context.
>>>>>
>>>>> What damns AI is how on target it is.
>>>>
>>>> It is pretty amazing... both in content and "voice" of an author.
>>>>>
>>>>> Being rich, I should be allowed to do whatever I want. -- Donald Trump
>>>>
>>>> I have heard this attributed to him but do not recall when / where it came
>>>> from. Looking now I do not see it. Can you show a source?
>>>
>>> I don't remember where I got it.
>>>
>>> Not that it matters. If the right can dish it out, they'd best be prepared to
>>> take it.
>>
>> I still want to be accurate (though parody and the like is fine)
>
> I've already deleted the quote since I can no longer cite the source. On other
> subjects though, I want rightists to feel what it's like to discover you've
> been
> deliberately lied to to your face and there is absolutely nothing you can do to
> prevent that lie from being accepted as the truth.

I get it. I have at times treated those who troll me by their own rules, for
example repeating accusations against a guy who has trolled me for over two
decades. But I do it in an honest way and note it is an example.
>
>>> What will they be like if Trump gives them immunity?
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0bbUMghq6fw>
>>
>> We need police... but they need to be held accountable.
>
> Precisely. And they need to be more than ex-soldiers designed to suppress
> loudness. There is a place in modern policing for professional training in
> psychology and human behavior.

Absolutely.
>
> Cops lie to the courts and for each other. That has to stop. As kids we were
> educated to believe cops were honest and interested in our safety and well
> being.

To some extent. I knew a cop who confiscated fireworks and gave them to a
friend and me.

> We then grow up to discover we've been duped into giving them power
> nobody should have over their fellow citizens outside war time.

We should have compassion that they are human and will respond to threatening
situations in ways that are not perfect, but we need to demand better from
them and hold them accountable when they actively abuse their power.
>
> Bully cops
> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EnLs8rEfny4>

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Sep 23, 2024 at 2:01:25 AM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<bgb2fj5arfdjan5i5n0c0om1vukgr0fl0r@4ax.com>:

> On 23 Sep 2024 02:00:18 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>> 2. **Support for Democratic Causes and Candidates:**
>> - **Pelosi's Role:** As Speaker of the House, Pelosi benefited from
>> increased fundraising and spending that helped maintain and expand the
>> Democratic majority in the House. Super PACs and dark money groups supported
>> various Democratic candidates and causes aligned with her agenda. While Pelosi
>> herself was critical of the decision, she navigated the post-*Citizens United*
>> environment to strengthen Democratic fundraising and campaign efforts.
>
> One of the reasons Pelosi had so much power for so long in her party was her
> ability as a fundraiser.

Sadly that is key to any politician.
>
> TL;DR
>
> $200,000 for doing nothing
> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i-I24-7oqc0>

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 23 Sep 2024 15:09:11 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I've already deleted the quote since I can no longer cite the source. On other
>> subjects though, I want rightists to feel what it's like to discover you've
>> been
>> deliberately lied to to your face and there is absolutely nothing you can do to
>> prevent that lie from being accepted as the truth.
>
>I get it. I have at times treated those who troll me by their own rules, for
>example repeating accusations against a guy who has trolled me for over two
>decades. But I do it in an honest way and note it is an example.

Do others do that when they lie to you?

My Internet is so slow ...
"How slow is it?"
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qG6rKxP_vaY>

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 43 days.

07) Trump extreme conservative judicial appointments.
1 in 3 American women now live in a state with an abortion ban.
08) One of Trump's SCOTUS nominees, Bret Kavanaugh, was
accused of sexual assault by multiple women.
The only other SCOTUS justice to be so accused was
Clarence Thomas, also a noted conservative.

On 23 Sep 2024 15:09:11 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Cops lie to the courts and for each other. That has to stop. As kids we were
>> educated to believe cops were honest and interested in our safety and well
>> being.
>
>To some extent. I knew a cop who confiscated fireworks and gave them to a
>friend and me.

That doesn't seem very honest.

Stationed in Okinawa
<https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EueL5baYMLk>

--

Today's two reasons to not vote for Trump in 43 days.

07) Trump extreme conservative judicial appointments.
1 in 3 American women now live in a state with an abortion ban.
08) One of Trump's SCOTUS nominees, Bret Kavanaugh, was
accused of sexual assault by multiple women.
The only other SCOTUS justice to be so accused was
Clarence Thomas, also a noted conservative.

On Sep 23, 2024 at 12:57:38 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<30i3fjd4mtkhho8agc5fbaq2dstlp64fos@4ax.com>:

> On 23 Sep 2024 15:09:11 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Cops lie to the courts and for each other. That has to stop. As kids we were
>>> educated to believe cops were honest and interested in our safety and well
>>> being.
>>
>> To some extent. I knew a cop who confiscated fireworks and gave them to a
>> friend and me.
>
> That doesn't seem very honest.

It was not.
>
> Stationed in Okinawa
> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EueL5baYMLk>

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Sep 23, 2024 at 12:56:03 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<9th3fj9rb264uoh6btrfedpmjmlll9v18t@4ax.com>:

> On 23 Sep 2024 15:09:11 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I've already deleted the quote since I can no longer cite the source. On other
>>> subjects though, I want rightists to feel what it's like to discover you've
>>> been
>>> deliberately lied to to your face and there is absolutely nothing you can do to
>>> prevent that lie from being accepted as the truth.
>>
>> I get it. I have at times treated those who troll me by their own rules, for
>> example repeating accusations against a guy who has trolled me for over two
>> decades. But I do it in an honest way and note it is an example.
>
> Do others do that when they lie to you?

Make such extreme accusations? They feed off of his... but there is one person
who is clearly far worse than the rest.
>
> My Internet is so slow ...
> "How slow is it?"
> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qG6rKxP_vaY>

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 9/23/24 11:09 AM, Snit wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:01:31 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> <bji1fjtu8rpgmet7hv9oq67a0vj59s64ra@4ax.com>:
>
>> On 22 Sep 2024 22:18:39 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:56:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>> <uh41fj9ougv6alj8pate2dsm5ogs2j83gc@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 15:34:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 9:46:02?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>>> <h68vejdtfhnlbv89mjn6360j4ebmcdjdc5@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 03:18:03 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 7:05:25?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>>>> <66ef7b65$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <66ef6763$0$3068677$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>> Political figures often use promises like "fixing things on day one" as part
>>>>>>>>> of their campaign messaging. It?s a way to communicate urgency and commitment
>>>>>>>>> to taking immediate action on important issues.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So it's a lie.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Q for ChatGPT:
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Who lies more: Harris or Trump? Whose lies are more damaging?
>>>>>>> Answer in the style of Hunter S Thompson:
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A from ChatGPT:
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Listen, comparing Harris to Trump in the lying game is like
>>>>>>> comparing a house cat to a goddamn Bengal tiger. Harris plays the
>>>>>>> politician?s game?slick, polished, the occasional dodge, sure. But
>>>>>>> Trump? Jesus, he?s something else. The man?s a human fog machine,
>>>>>>> cranking out a never-ending cloud of bullshit. It?s not just that
>>>>>>> he lies, it?s that he does it with this brazen, maniacal swagger,
>>>>>>> like the truth is some annoying fly buzzing around his head. Swat
>>>>>>> it away, who needs it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump?s lies, though?hell, they?re not harmless little fibs. No,
>>>>>>> no, these are weapons, fully loaded and pointed at the fragile
>>>>>>> brains of his loyal, glassy-eyed followers. He spews nonsense
>>>>>>> about a rigged election, fans the flames of a pandemic like a
>>>>>>> lunatic pyromaniac, and before you know it, there?s an
>>>>>>> insurrection at the goddamn Capitol. People are getting sick,
>>>>>>> dying by the thousands, and he?s out there calling it a hoax,
>>>>>>> tossing his followers into a reality distortion field and watching
>>>>>>> as they eat it up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Harris? Sure, she spins, exaggerates a bit. But she?s not out
>>>>>>> there unraveling the fabric of democracy or leaving a trail of
>>>>>>> destruction in her wake. She?s playing by the standard rules of
>>>>>>> the political cesspool, while Trump?s tearing through the place
>>>>>>> like a crazed gorilla with a flamethrower. Damage? Don?t kid
>>>>>>> yourself. Harris might bruise an ego here or there, but Trump
>>>>>>> leaves the whole damn country bleeding.
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That answers the question AND gives context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What damns AI is how on target it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is pretty amazing... both in content and "voice" of an author.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being rich, I should be allowed to do whatever I want. -- Donald Trump
>>>>>
>>>>> I have heard this attributed to him but do not recall when / where it came
>>>>> from. Looking now I do not see it. Can you show a source?
>>>>
>>>> I don't remember where I got it.
>>>>
>>>> Not that it matters. If the right can dish it out, they'd best be prepared to
>>>> take it.
>>>
>>> I still want to be accurate (though parody and the like is fine)
>>
>> I've already deleted the quote since I can no longer cite the source. On other
>> subjects though, I want rightists to feel what it's like to discover you've
>> been
>> deliberately lied to to your face and there is absolutely nothing you can do to
>> prevent that lie from being accepted as the truth.
>
> I get it. I have at times treated those who troll me by their own rules, for
> example repeating accusations against a guy who has trolled me for over two
> decades. But I do it in an honest way and note it is an example.

Laughable snit. You are a fucking, mentally retarded, psychotic troll.
You lie pathologically which is why you have websites listing
interactions you have had with various Usenet posters over your last
decades of trolling.

These are not made up accusations. They are backed up with links to the
actual posts, in context, where the entire thread can be read. Most of
the links work but those that Google deleted can be found in WB Machine.

You move from group to group sucking people into your snit circus and
the net result is a group left in chaos and destruction. It happens
every single time.
Alt.computer.workshop appears to be your latest target but now you seem
to have parked your circus in AFR-L.
Too bad for them.
Ask the people of comp.sys.mac.advocacy what they think of you and your
troll farm.
The only way they got you to leave was to shun you but by that time the
groups was a wasteland due to people leaving because of your antics.

So people in AFR-L know about your public crime record snit?
How about being arrested for public assault by your own wife?
How about your wife, common law BTW, kicking you out of the trailer you
both lived in?
How about the court ordered parenting classes?
Do they know about this?

All easily found publicly.

>>>> What will they be like if Trump gives them immunity?
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0bbUMghq6fw>
>>>
>>> We need police... but they need to be held accountable.
>>
>> Precisely. And they need to be more than ex-soldiers designed to suppress
>> loudness. There is a place in modern policing for professional training in
>> psychology and human behavior.
>
> Absolutely.
>>
>> Cops lie to the courts and for each other. That has to stop. As kids we were
>> educated to believe cops were honest and interested in our safety and well
>> being.
>
> To some extent. I knew a cop who confiscated fireworks and gave them to a
> friend and me.

This is another one of your classic tells snit.
You always seem to have some "friend" who just happens to fit into the
thread.
Last time you just happened to be boating on a lake and loaned a life
vest to a person in need.

For a person who is a self admitted hermit who rarely leaves the house
due to mental illness, you sure seem to have a multitude of friends.

Mental illness you say?

Look here'

Scroll down about a third of the page to Michael Glasser who carries a
stuffed teddy bear around with him.

https://thefaceofmentalillness.wordpress.com/

To conclude, here is all you need to know about the fucking crazy as
bedbug snit Michael Glasser. I take no credit for this as it's been
previously posted across many different groups,

Ask snit how he pissed on his cat.
All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron:
https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html

--
Luke

On Sep 23, 2024 at 3:15:01 PM MST, "Luke" wrote
<vcsp97$2sj0n$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 9/23/24 11:09 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:01:31 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> <bji1fjtu8rpgmet7hv9oq67a0vj59s64ra@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On 22 Sep 2024 22:18:39 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:56:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>> <uh41fj9ougv6alj8pate2dsm5ogs2j83gc@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 15:34:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 9:46:02?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>>>> <h68vejdtfhnlbv89mjn6360j4ebmcdjdc5@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 03:18:03 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 7:05:25?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>>>>> <66ef7b65$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <66ef6763$0$3068677$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>> Political figures often use promises like "fixing things on day one" as part
>>>>>>>>>> of their campaign messaging. It?s a way to communicate urgency and commitment
>>>>>>>>>> to taking immediate action on important issues.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So it's a lie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Q for ChatGPT:
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>> Who lies more: Harris or Trump? Whose lies are more damaging?
>>>>>>>> Answer in the style of Hunter S Thompson:
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A from ChatGPT:
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>> Listen, comparing Harris to Trump in the lying game is like
>>>>>>>> comparing a house cat to a goddamn Bengal tiger. Harris plays the
>>>>>>>> politician?s game?slick, polished, the occasional dodge, sure. But
>>>>>>>> Trump? Jesus, he?s something else. The man?s a human fog machine,
>>>>>>>> cranking out a never-ending cloud of bullshit. It?s not just that
>>>>>>>> he lies, it?s that he does it with this brazen, maniacal swagger,
>>>>>>>> like the truth is some annoying fly buzzing around his head. Swat
>>>>>>>> it away, who needs it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump?s lies, though?hell, they?re not harmless little fibs. No,
>>>>>>>> no, these are weapons, fully loaded and pointed at the fragile
>>>>>>>> brains of his loyal, glassy-eyed followers. He spews nonsense
>>>>>>>> about a rigged election, fans the flames of a pandemic like a
>>>>>>>> lunatic pyromaniac, and before you know it, there?s an
>>>>>>>> insurrection at the goddamn Capitol. People are getting sick,
>>>>>>>> dying by the thousands, and he?s out there calling it a hoax,
>>>>>>>> tossing his followers into a reality distortion field and watching
>>>>>>>> as they eat it up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Harris? Sure, she spins, exaggerates a bit. But she?s not out
>>>>>>>> there unraveling the fabric of democracy or leaving a trail of
>>>>>>>> destruction in her wake. She?s playing by the standard rules of
>>>>>>>> the political cesspool, while Trump?s tearing through the place
>>>>>>>> like a crazed gorilla with a flamethrower. Damage? Don?t kid
>>>>>>>> yourself. Harris might bruise an ego here or there, but Trump
>>>>>>>> leaves the whole damn country bleeding.
>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That answers the question AND gives context.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What damns AI is how on target it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is pretty amazing... both in content and "voice" of an author.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being rich, I should be allowed to do whatever I want. -- Donald Trump
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have heard this attributed to him but do not recall when / where it came
>>>>>> from. Looking now I do not see it. Can you show a source?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't remember where I got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that it matters. If the right can dish it out, they'd best be prepared to
>>>>> take it.
>>>>
>>>> I still want to be accurate (though parody and the like is fine)
>>>
>>> I've already deleted the quote since I can no longer cite the source. On other
>>> subjects though, I want rightists to feel what it's like to discover you've
>>> been
>>> deliberately lied to to your face and there is absolutely nothing you can do to
>>> prevent that lie from being accepted as the truth.
>>
>> I get it. I have at times treated those who troll me by their own rules, for
>> example repeating accusations against a guy who has trolled me for over two
>> decades. But I do it in an honest way and note it is an example.
>
> Laughable snit.

Is there something that makes you think your opinion matters? I mean you spew
nonsense and want to be taken seriously. How sad.

> You are a fucking, mentally retarded, psychotic troll.

See: you start by saying you have no real point but want to insult. You seek
to cause harm. That is a YOU issue.

> You lie pathologically which is why you have websites listing
> interactions you have had with various Usenet posters over your last
> decades of trolling.

Yet these "lies" cannot be quoted. No matter what name / account you use, you
cannot explain how "lies" are unquotable.
>
> These are not made up accusations. They are backed up with links to the
> actual posts, in context, where the entire thread can be read. Most of
> the links work but those that Google deleted can be found in WB Machine.

Yet here you are NOT showing a single example, even as you lie your ass off.
>
> You move from group to group sucking people into your snit circus and
> the net result is a group left in chaos and destruction. It happens
> every single time.
> Alt.computer.workshop appears to be your latest target but now you seem
> to have parked your circus in AFR-L.
> Too bad for them.
> Ask the people of comp.sys.mac.advocacy what they think of you and your
> troll farm.
> The only way they got you to leave was to shun you but by that time the
> groups was a wasteland due to people leaving because of your antics.

Babbling nonsense is not a great look for you.
>
> So people in AFR-L know about your public crime record snit?

Remember you did not want to give away you are a sock. But explain how a
"public" record is not available to the public. LOL!

> How about being arrested for public assault by your own wife?

Your sock usage is absurd.

> How about your wife, common law BTW, kicking you out of the trailer you
> both lived in?

Again, what? Your lies are just silly.

> Do they know about this?
>
> All easily found publicly.

Link?

Oh. You made it up.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Luke wrote:
> On 9/23/24 11:09 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:01:31 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>> <bji1fjtu8rpgmet7hv9oq67a0vj59s64ra@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> On 22 Sep 2024 22:18:39 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:56:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>> <uh41fj9ougv6alj8pate2dsm5ogs2j83gc@4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 15:34:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 9:46:02?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>>>> <h68vejdtfhnlbv89mjn6360j4ebmcdjdc5@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 03:18:03 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 7:05:25?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>>>>> <66ef7b65$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In article <66ef6763$0$3068677$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>> Political figures often use promises like "fixing things on
>>>>>>>>>> day one" as part
>>>>>>>>>> of their campaign messaging. It?s a way to communicate urgency
>>>>>>>>>> and commitment
>>>>>>>>>> to taking immediate action on important issues.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So it's a lie.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Q for ChatGPT:
>>>>>>>>     -----
>>>>>>>>     Who lies more: Harris or Trump? Whose lies are more damaging?
>>>>>>>>     Answer in the style of Hunter S Thompson:
>>>>>>>>     -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A from ChatGPT:
>>>>>>>>     -----
>>>>>>>>     Listen, comparing Harris to Trump in the lying game is like
>>>>>>>>     comparing a house cat to a goddamn Bengal tiger. Harris
>>>>>>>> plays the
>>>>>>>>     politician?s game?slick, polished, the occasional dodge,
>>>>>>>> sure. But
>>>>>>>>     Trump? Jesus, he?s something else. The man?s a human fog
>>>>>>>> machine,
>>>>>>>>     cranking out a never-ending cloud of bullshit. It?s not just
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>     he lies, it?s that he does it with this brazen, maniacal
>>>>>>>> swagger,
>>>>>>>>     like the truth is some annoying fly buzzing around his head.
>>>>>>>> Swat
>>>>>>>>     it away, who needs it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Trump?s lies, though?hell, they?re not harmless little fibs.
>>>>>>>> No,
>>>>>>>>     no, these are weapons, fully loaded and pointed at the fragile
>>>>>>>>     brains of his loyal, glassy-eyed followers. He spews nonsense
>>>>>>>>     about a rigged election, fans the flames of a pandemic like a
>>>>>>>>     lunatic pyromaniac, and before you know it, there?s an
>>>>>>>>     insurrection at the goddamn Capitol. People are getting sick,
>>>>>>>>     dying by the thousands, and he?s out there calling it a hoax,
>>>>>>>>     tossing his followers into a reality distortion field and
>>>>>>>> watching
>>>>>>>>     as they eat it up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Harris? Sure, she spins, exaggerates a bit. But she?s not out
>>>>>>>>     there unraveling the fabric of democracy or leaving a trail of
>>>>>>>>     destruction in her wake. She?s playing by the standard rules of
>>>>>>>>     the political cesspool, while Trump?s tearing through the place
>>>>>>>>     like a crazed gorilla with a flamethrower. Damage? Don?t kid
>>>>>>>>     yourself. Harris might bruise an ego here or there, but Trump
>>>>>>>>     leaves the whole damn country bleeding.
>>>>>>>>     -----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That answers the question AND gives context.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What damns AI is how on target it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is pretty amazing... both in content and "voice" of an author.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being rich, I should be allowed to do whatever I want. -- Donald
>>>>>>> Trump
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have heard this attributed to him but do not recall when / where
>>>>>> it came
>>>>>> from. Looking now I do not see it. Can you show a source?
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't remember where I got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that it matters.  If the right can dish it out, they'd best be
>>>>> prepared to
>>>>> take it.
>>>>
>>>> I still want to be accurate (though parody and the like is fine)
>>>
>>> I've already deleted the quote since I can no longer cite the
>>> source.  On other
>>> subjects though, I want rightists to feel what it's like to discover
>>> you've
>>> been
>>> deliberately lied to to your face and there is absolutely nothing you
>>> can do to
>>> prevent that lie from being accepted as the truth.
>>
>> I get it. I have at times treated those who troll me by their own
>> rules, for
>> example repeating accusations against a guy who has trolled me for
>> over two
>> decades. But I do it in an honest way and note it is an example.
>
> Laughable snit. You are a fucking, mentally retarded, psychotic troll.
> You lie pathologically which is why you have websites listing
> interactions you have had with various Usenet posters over your last
> decades of trolling.
>
> These are not made up accusations. They are backed up with links to the
> actual posts, in context, where the entire thread can be read. Most of
> the links work but those that Google deleted can be found in WB Machine.
>
> You move from group to group sucking people into your snit circus and
> the net result is a group left in chaos and destruction. It happens
> every single time.
> Alt.computer.workshop appears to be your latest target but now you seem
> to have parked your circus in AFR-L.
> Too bad for them.
> Ask the people of comp.sys.mac.advocacy what they think of you and your
> troll farm.
> The only way they got you to leave was to shun you but by that time the
> groups was a wasteland due to people leaving because of your antics.
>
> So people in AFR-L know about your public crime record snit?
> How about being arrested for public assault by your own wife?
> How about your wife, common law BTW, kicking you out of the trailer you
> both lived in?
> How about the court ordered parenting classes?
> Do they know about this?
>
> All easily found publicly.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>>> What will they be like if Trump gives them immunity?
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0bbUMghq6fw>
>>>>
>>>> We need police... but they need to be held accountable.
>>>
>>> Precisely.  And they need to be more than ex-soldiers designed to
>>> suppress
>>> loudness.  There is a place in modern policing for professional
>>> training in
>>> psychology and human behavior.
>>
>> Absolutely.
>>>
>>> Cops lie to the courts and for each other.  That has to stop.  As
>>> kids we were
>>> educated to believe cops were honest and interested in our safety and
>>> well
>>> being.
>>
>> To some extent. I knew a cop who confiscated fireworks and gave them to a
>> friend and me.
>
> This is another one of your classic tells snit.
> You always seem to have some "friend" who just happens to fit into the
> thread.
> Last time you just happened to be boating on a lake and loaned a life
> vest to a person in need.
>
> For a person who is a self admitted hermit who rarely leaves the house
> due to mental illness, you sure seem to have a multitude of friends.
>
> Mental illness you say?
>
> Look here'
>
> Scroll down about a third of the page to Michael Glasser who carries a
> stuffed teddy bear around with him.
>
>
> https://thefaceofmentalillness.wordpress.com/
>
> To conclude, here is all you need to know about the fucking crazy as
> bedbug snit Michael Glasser. I take no credit for this as it's been
> previously posted across many different groups,
>
>
> Ask snit how he pissed on his cat.
> All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
well this just wasted 5 minutes of my life

Snit wrote:
> On Sep 23, 2024 at 3:15:01 PM MST, "Luke" wrote
> <vcsp97$2sj0n$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 9/23/24 11:09 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 7:01:31 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>> <bji1fjtu8rpgmet7hv9oq67a0vj59s64ra@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 22:18:39 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2024 at 2:56:40?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>>> <uh41fj9ougv6alj8pate2dsm5ogs2j83gc@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 15:34:40 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 9:46:02?PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
>>>>>>> <h68vejdtfhnlbv89mjn6360j4ebmcdjdc5@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 22 Sep 2024 03:18:03 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2024 at 7:05:25?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>>>>>> <66ef7b65$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In article <66ef6763$0$3068677$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>> Political figures often use promises like "fixing things on day one" as part
>>>>>>>>>>> of their campaign messaging. It?s a way to communicate urgency and commitment
>>>>>>>>>>> to taking immediate action on important issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So it's a lie.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Q for ChatGPT:
>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>> Who lies more: Harris or Trump? Whose lies are more damaging?
>>>>>>>>> Answer in the style of Hunter S Thompson:
>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A from ChatGPT:
>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>> Listen, comparing Harris to Trump in the lying game is like
>>>>>>>>> comparing a house cat to a goddamn Bengal tiger. Harris plays the
>>>>>>>>> politician?s game?slick, polished, the occasional dodge, sure. But
>>>>>>>>> Trump? Jesus, he?s something else. The man?s a human fog machine,
>>>>>>>>> cranking out a never-ending cloud of bullshit. It?s not just that
>>>>>>>>> he lies, it?s that he does it with this brazen, maniacal swagger,
>>>>>>>>> like the truth is some annoying fly buzzing around his head. Swat
>>>>>>>>> it away, who needs it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump?s lies, though?hell, they?re not harmless little fibs. No,
>>>>>>>>> no, these are weapons, fully loaded and pointed at the fragile
>>>>>>>>> brains of his loyal, glassy-eyed followers. He spews nonsense
>>>>>>>>> about a rigged election, fans the flames of a pandemic like a
>>>>>>>>> lunatic pyromaniac, and before you know it, there?s an
>>>>>>>>> insurrection at the goddamn Capitol. People are getting sick,
>>>>>>>>> dying by the thousands, and he?s out there calling it a hoax,
>>>>>>>>> tossing his followers into a reality distortion field and watching
>>>>>>>>> as they eat it up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Harris? Sure, she spins, exaggerates a bit. But she?s not out
>>>>>>>>> there unraveling the fabric of democracy or leaving a trail of
>>>>>>>>> destruction in her wake. She?s playing by the standard rules of
>>>>>>>>> the political cesspool, while Trump?s tearing through the place
>>>>>>>>> like a crazed gorilla with a flamethrower. Damage? Don?t kid
>>>>>>>>> yourself. Harris might bruise an ego here or there, but Trump
>>>>>>>>> leaves the whole damn country bleeding.
>>>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That answers the question AND gives context.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What damns AI is how on target it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is pretty amazing... both in content and "voice" of an author.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Being rich, I should be allowed to do whatever I want. -- Donald Trump
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have heard this attributed to him but do not recall when / where it came
>>>>>>> from. Looking now I do not see it. Can you show a source?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't remember where I got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that it matters. If the right can dish it out, they'd best be prepared to
>>>>>> take it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still want to be accurate (though parody and the like is fine)
>>>>
>>>> I've already deleted the quote since I can no longer cite the source. On other
>>>> subjects though, I want rightists to feel what it's like to discover you've
>>>> been
>>>> deliberately lied to to your face and there is absolutely nothing you can do to
>>>> prevent that lie from being accepted as the truth.
>>>
>>> I get it. I have at times treated those who troll me by their own rules, for
>>> example repeating accusations against a guy who has trolled me for over two
>>> decades. But I do it in an honest way and note it is an example.
>>
>> Laughable snit.
>
> Is there something that makes you think your opinion matters? I mean you spew
> nonsense and want to be taken seriously. How sad.
>
>> You are a fucking, mentally retarded, psychotic troll.
>
> See: you start by saying you have no real point but want to insult. You seek
> to cause harm. That is a YOU issue.
>
>> You lie pathologically which is why you have websites listing
>> interactions you have had with various Usenet posters over your last
>> decades of trolling.
>
> Yet these "lies" cannot be quoted. No matter what name / account you use, you
> cannot explain how "lies" are unquotable.
>>
>> These are not made up accusations. They are backed up with links to the
>> actual posts, in context, where the entire thread can be read. Most of
>> the links work but those that Google deleted can be found in WB Machine.
>
> Yet here you are NOT showing a single example, even as you lie your ass off.
>>
>> You move from group to group sucking people into your snit circus and
>> the net result is a group left in chaos and destruction. It happens
>> every single time.
>> Alt.computer.workshop appears to be your latest target but now you seem
>> to have parked your circus in AFR-L.
>> Too bad for them.
>> Ask the people of comp.sys.mac.advocacy what they think of you and your
>> troll farm.
>> The only way they got you to leave was to shun you but by that time the
>> groups was a wasteland due to people leaving because of your antics.
>
> Babbling nonsense is not a great look for you.
>>
>> So people in AFR-L know about your public crime record snit?
>
> Remember you did not want to give away you are a sock. But explain how a
> "public" record is not available to the public. LOL!
>
>> How about being arrested for public assault by your own wife?
>
> Your sock usage is absurd.
>
>> How about your wife, common law BTW, kicking you out of the trailer you
>> both lived in?
>
> Again, what? Your lies are just silly.
>
>> Do they know about this?
>>
>> All easily found publicly.
>
> Link?
>
> Oh. You made it up.
>
>
are you free for kids parties