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asks-protection-incalculable-numb-rcna170794

The man whose teenage son is accused of killing four people at a Georgia
high school asked a judge Wednesday for protection from fellow inmates
because of the �incalculable number of threats� he faces behind bars.

Colin Gray is being held without bail after he was arrested and booked on
suspicion of second-degree murder and manslaughter, accused of allowing
his son, Colt Gray, access to the weapon used in last week's bloodshed at
Apalachee High School in Winder, east of Atlanta.

Gray needs to be separated from other inmates being held by the Barrow
County Sheriff's Office, his lawyers Jimmy Berry and Brian Hobbs wrote.

Widespread news coverage and social media discussion of the case has led
to an "incalculable number of threats against the Defendant" by inmates
"calling for both harm and violence to befall the Defendant, and in some
cases, even calling for the death of the Defendant," they said.

Last week's shooting has affected almost everyone in Winder and greater
Barrow County, defense lawyers said.

�It is certain that those feelings of anger and retribution manifested in
the collective psyche, of both the public and the community at large, are
not also represented in the individuals currently incarcerated with the
Defendant at the Barrow County Detention Center,� they wrote in a motion
filed Wednesday in Barrow County Superior Court.

�In fact, so many lives in the community of Barrow County have been
touched in unfathomable ways, it would be reckless to assume there are NO
inmates, either currently or in the near future, being housed in the
Barrow County Detention, who wish to harm the Defendant," they wrote.

A representative for the sheriff's office could not immediately be reached
for comment Thursday.

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>The man whose teenage son is accused of killing four people at a Georgia
>high school asked a judge Wednesday for protection from fellow inmates
>because of the "incalculable number of threats" he faces behind bars.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

He'd think differently if it was his kids.

This story mentions suicide. If you or someone you know is contemplating
suicide, please call or text the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at
988.

Calling it a “dangerous practice,” Gov. Andy Beshear signed an executive
order Wednesday that bans conversion therapy on minors in Kentucky.

Speaking in Frankfort, Beshear said such attempts to alter a young
person’s gender expression or sexual attractions have “no basis in
medicine” — a view supported by experts in medicine and mental health.

Conversion therapy has been condemned by the American Academy of Child and
Adolescent Psychiatry (AACAP), among other medical and psychological
organizations. AACAP says conversion therapies “lack scientific
credibility and clinical utility” and “there is evidence that such
interventions are harmful.”

The practice involves “interventions purported to alter same-sex
attractions or an individual’s gender expression with the specific aim to
promote heterosexuality as a preferable outcome” according to the AACAP.

The American Psychological Association says that people who have undergone
“sexual orientation change efforts” are much more likely to be depressed
and suicidal. The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is 988.

Beshear’s executive order states that neither state or federal dollars can
be used “for the practice of conversion therapy on minors.”

“Today’s action does not force an ideology on anybody,” Beshear said. “It
does not expose anyone to anything in a library or school. It simply stops
a so-called ‘therapy’ that the medical community says is wrong and hurts
our children.”

Beshear’s order comes after Rep. Lisa Willner, D-Louisville, has
repeatedly sponsored legislation to ban conversion therapy in Kentucky.
Each year, her bill has had bipartisan support. Given that, it’s always
been a “mystery” to her why it didn’t pass, she told the Lantern
Wednesday.

“That’s a question I’ve asked myself for six years: Why can’t we get this
across the finish line?” she said. “It’s such a discredited practice. It
has caused such harm to so many young Kentuckians, including suicide. And
it has had such strong bipartisan support.”

“I’m incredibly grateful for the executive order, and that, at long last,
there will be protections in place,” Willner added.

Snags in 2025?
Beshear’s move could hit snags in the 2025 legislative session.

Rep. Josh Calloway, R-Irvington, wrote on social media that he would file
legislation next year to “stop this governor from pushing his harmful far-
left agenda on struggling kids.”

Calloway shared a screenshot of the email the governor’s office sent to
announce the executive order and wrote, “why is @AndyBeshearKY determined
to keep vulnerable children confused?”

“I will fight this with every fiber of my being,” Calloway wrote. “I am
also exploring other legal options to stop egregious overreach.”

Meanwhile, 12 Republican Senators slammed Beshear for the order, which
they said “disregards the First Amendment rights regarding freedom of
religion and speech and violates the fundamental parental rights and
responsibilities for their children.”

“Time and again, the Kentucky Supreme Court has told the governor he lacks
the power to create policy in the Commonwealth. Yet again, the governor is
defying the Supreme Court, the General Assembly, and the doctrine of
separation of powers,” those senators said in a statement. “The executive
order uses such vague and overbroad language that health care providers
are at risk, and children will be left without needed mental health care.”

The 12 Republican state senators issuing the statement condemning
Beshear’s action are: Senate President Robert Stivers, Manchester; Robby
Mills, Henderson; Shelley Funke Frommeyer, Alexandria; Lindsey Tichenor,
Smithfield; Whitney Westerfield, Fruit Hill; Gary Boswell, Owensboro;
Donald Douglas, Nicholasville; Greg Elkins, Winchester; John Schickel,
Union; Phillip Wheeler, Pikeville; Majority Whip Mike Wilson, Bowling
Green; Max Wise, R-Campbellsville.

Willner is “sure there will be efforts” to block the executive order, she
told the Lantern.

“There are people who, I think, willfully misunderstand what this is
about, and that this is a practice that traumatizes people for decades,
for the rest of their lives, and that ends lives prematurely,” she said.
“And for people to misunderstand this is beyond disappointing. I will do
everything I can to make sure that any efforts to turn this back will
fail, and I really hope that they will.”

Protections ‘at long last’
Advocates for mental health in Kentucky praised Beshear’s action.

Sheila Schuster, the executive director of the Kentucky Mental Health
Coalition, called the practice “torture” and teared up as she spoke
alongside Beshear in the Capitol Rotunda.

Her coalition has listed ending conversion therapy as a top priority for
the legislature for nearly a decade, citing the “harm” the practice
causes.

“While we have not been successful in the legislature, it’s not for lack
of effort from our heroines and heroes,” Schuster said.

Chris Hartman, executive director of the Fairness Campaign, said Beshear
would “save countless Kentucky kids’ lives” with the move.

“Today, we all join Governor Beshear to send a crystal clear message to
all of Kentucky’s queer kids and their families,” Hartman said. “You are
perfect as you are.”

Eric Russ, the executive director of the Kentucky Psychological
Association, called conversion therapy a discredited practice that “has no
place in the mental health care of LGBTQ youth.”

“We know that survivors of conversion therapy not only do not change their
sexual orientation, but have worse mental health outcomes, including self
blame, guilt, shame, anxiety, depression,” Russ said. “We know the best
thing we can do as mental health providers is to affirm the identity of
the kids in our care. When a kid walks into a licensed mental health
professional’s office with their family, we have an ethical obligation to
provide them care that is supportive, evidence based and affirming to
their sexual orientation identity.”

https://kentuckylantern.com/2024/09/18/beshear-signs-order-banning-
conversion-therapy-on-kentucky-minors/

CF Robinson wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> He'd think differently if it was his kids.
>
> This story mentions suicide. If you or someone you know is contemplating
> suicide, please call or text the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at
> 988.
>
> Calling it a “dangerous practice,” Gov. Andy Beshear signed an executive
> order Wednesday that bans conversion therapy on minors in Kentucky.
>
> Speaking in Frankfort, Beshear said such attempts to alter a young
> person’s gender expression or sexual attractions have “no basis in
> medicine” — a view supported by experts in medicine and mental health.
>
> Conversion therapy has been condemned by the American Academy of Child and
> Adolescent Psychiatry (AACAP), among other medical and psychological
> organizations. AACAP says conversion therapies “lack scientific
> credibility and clinical utility” and “there is evidence that such
> interventions are harmful.”
>
> <brevsnip>
>
> https://kentuckylantern.com/2024/09/18/beshear-signs-order-banning-conversion-therapy-on-kentucky-minors/

So Republicans call gender therapy "mutilation", but they want to "convert"
kids to a "normal" gender?

In spite of the scientific evidence?

Cray cray cognitive dissonance.

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Brick wrote:
>> The man whose teenage son is accused of killing four people at a Georgia
>> high school asked a judge Wednesday for protection from fellow inmates
>> because of the "incalculable number of threats" he faces behind bars.
>
> A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
> the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>

Heller.

"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right
is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep
and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner
whatsoever and for whatever purpose..."

On 9/29/24 12:07 AM, Gronk wrote:
> Brick wrote:
>>> The man whose teenage son is accused of killing four people at a Georgia
>>> high school asked a judge Wednesday for protection from fellow inmates
>>> because of the "incalculable number of threats" he faces behind bars.
>>
>> A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
>> the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>
>
> Heller.
>
> "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right
> is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep
> and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner
> whatsoever and for whatever purpose..."

Well ALMOST not any weapon, MOSTLY under
any circumstance.

Today we DO have real WMDs - nukes, chemical,
biological - utterly indiscriminate LARGE-scale
slaughter. Billy-Bob ought not have those. Too
many beers and ...........

But anything LESS than that def ... what any
'common soldier' might carry .........

Govts must not be allowed to get TOO cocky,
feel TOO superior. What happens when THAT
happens - history is replete and it AIN'T
good. This is a 'human nature' thing.

>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-school-shooting-suspects-dad-
>asks-protection-incalculable-numb-rcna170794
>

So much for protection from The NRA. If you think this is bad for a
rightist, think about what will happen to Trump when he's sentenced and ends
his days a prisoner.

186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> On 9/29/24 12:07 AM, Gronk wrote:
>> Brick wrote:
>>>> The man whose teenage son is accused of killing four people at a
>>>> Georgia
>>>> high school asked a judge Wednesday for protection from fellow inmates
>>>> because of the "incalculable number of threats" he faces behind bars.
>>>
>>> A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free
>>> State,
>>> the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>>
>>
>> Heller.
>>
>> "Like most rights, the Second Amendment right
>> is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep
>> and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner
>> whatsoever and for whatever purpose..."
>
>   Well ALMOST not any weapon, MOSTLY under
>   any circumstance.

Since it doesn't say, it would be perfectly
Constitutional to limit it to a single shot
muzzle loader pistol.

>   Today we DO have real WMDs - nukes, chemical,
>   biological - utterly indiscriminate LARGE-scale
>   slaughter. Billy-Bob ought not have those. Too
>   many beers and ...........
>
>   But anything LESS than that def ... what any
>   'common soldier' might carry .........

Or you. Or anyone. And is meaningless.

>   Govts must not be allowed to get TOO cocky,
>   feel TOO superior. What happens when THAT
>   happens - history is replete and it AIN'T
>   good. This is a 'human nature' thing.