On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 10:48:53 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>In article <2ogecjl0pg5pef5vh5i08hc4551e65c7mk@4ax.com>,
>>joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
>>> >>find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
>>> >>boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
>>> >>who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
>>> >>have guns, even violent people.
>>> >
>>> >No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
>>> >relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
>>> >it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.
>>>
>>> If we were talking about something that isn't a lethal weapon, I'd be
>>> more willing to talk about "due process", we need to start acting like
>>> guns are what they are, instruments of human death. Are there valid
>>> uses of guns, yes, including self-defense, but someone the police are
>>> willing to assert is dangerous shouldn't possess them, even for a
>>> little while. If we can't trust the police to judge this, at least
>>> initially (there is always time to adjudicate), then we're just
>>> enabling monsters to commit violent crime.
>>
>>But your ilk doesn't like the police.
>
>
>Says who? I treat the police with respect, I wouldn't want their job,
>I appreciate that they do it. There are bad apples, but I think most
>are fine people.

Gotta love how everybody that isn't them is the 'other' and those 'others' are
all the same.

Donald Trump "is about me, myself and I." -- Bill Clinton

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On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:29:42 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
>>>>>find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
>>>>>boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
>>>>>who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
>>>>>have guns, even violent people.
>>>>
>>>>No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
>>>>relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
>>>>it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.
>>>
>>>If we were talking about something that isn't a lethal weapon, I'd be
>>>more willing to talk about "due process", we need to start acting like
>>>guns are what they are, instruments of human death. Are there valid
>>>uses of guns, yes, including self-defense, but someone the police are
>>>willing to assert is dangerous shouldn't possess them, even for a
>>>little while. If we can't trust the police to judge this, at least
>>>initially (there is always time to adjudicate), then we're just
>>>enabling monsters to commit violent crime.
>>
>>I understand and empathize with your position but I find it rather extreme. The
>>fifth and fourteenth amendments apply. Due process, sorry.
>
>
>You have to realize that guns are not "property" in the same manner
>that a couch is, or something, they're tools of death, they're
>regulated.

I do realize that.

> "Due process" really could mean the police making a
>judgment, at least initially.

If that is the due process the law specifies, that's fine with me.

"Keep your legions intact. They're what makes the law legal."
-- Rex Harrison as Julius Caesar in "Cleopatra" Fox, 1963
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On 22 Aug 2024 23:32:44 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:27:56?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
><66c7c97d$0$2385540$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> In article <66c7c65d$1$1427964$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 1:30:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>> <66c79fdd$0$3068685$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> In article <66c784ba$1$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:29:42 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
>>>>> <k8tecjt24kh23eg19blqsuoi8aoe5h835u@4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
>>>>>>>>>> find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
>>>>>>>>>> boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
>>>>>>>>>> who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
>>>>>>>>>> have guns, even violent people.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
>>>>>>>>> relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
>>>>>>>>> it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we were talking about something that isn't a lethal weapon, I'd be
>>>>>>>> more willing to talk about "due process", we need to start acting like
>>>>>>>> guns are what they are, instruments of human death. Are there valid
>>>>>>>> uses of guns, yes, including self-defense, but someone the police are
>>>>>>>> willing to assert is dangerous shouldn't possess them, even for a
>>>>>>>> little while. If we can't trust the police to judge this, at least
>>>>>>>> initially (there is always time to adjudicate), then we're just
>>>>>>>> enabling monsters to commit violent crime.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand and empathize with your position but I find it rather extreme.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> fifth and fourteenth amendments apply. Due process, sorry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have to realize that guns are not "property" in the same manner
>>>>>> that a couch is, or something, they're tools of death, they're
>>>>>> regulated. "Due process" really could mean the police making a
>>>>>> judgment, at least initially.
>>>>>
>>>>> "A well regulated militia".
>>>>
>>>> Meaning the people.
>>>
>>> How are the people "well regulated"?
>>
>> Fuck with us and find out.
>
>Good for you to admit that contrary to your many claims I have never "fucked"
>with you.

I adore this fantasy they have that a few million of them, scattered all across
the country can prevail against the United States government.

It didn't work when they had their own country and it won't work now.

VOTE! Because if you're not at the table, you're on the menu.
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On 22 Aug 2024 23:41:41 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:39:34?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
><66c7cc38$0$1895503$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> In article <66c7ca9c$4$2385533$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:27:56 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>> <66c7c97d$0$2385540$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> In article <66c7c65d$1$1427964$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 1:30:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>>>>> <66c79fdd$0$3068685$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <66c784ba$1$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:29:42 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
>>>>>>> <k8tecjt24kh23eg19blqsuoi8aoe5h835u@4ax.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
>>>>>>>>>>>> boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
>>>>>>>>>>>> who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
>>>>>>>>>>>> have guns, even violent people.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
>>>>>>>>>>> relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
>>>>>>>>>>> it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If we were talking about something that isn't a lethal weapon, I'd be
>>>>>>>>>> more willing to talk about "due process", we need to start acting like
>>>>>>>>>> guns are what they are, instruments of human death. Are there valid
>>>>>>>>>> uses of guns, yes, including self-defense, but someone the police are
>>>>>>>>>> willing to assert is dangerous shouldn't possess them, even for a
>>>>>>>>>> little while. If we can't trust the police to judge this, at least
>>>>>>>>>> initially (there is always time to adjudicate), then we're just
>>>>>>>>>> enabling monsters to commit violent crime.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand and empathize with your position but I find it rather extreme.
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> fifth and fourteenth amendments apply. Due process, sorry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have to realize that guns are not "property" in the same manner
>>>>>>>> that a couch is, or something, they're tools of death, they're
>>>>>>>> regulated. "Due process" really could mean the police making a
>>>>>>>> judgment, at least initially.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "A well regulated militia".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meaning the people.
>>>>>
>>>>> How are the people "well regulated"?
>>>>
>>>> Fuck with us and find out.
>>>
>>> Good for you to admit that contrary to your many claims I have never "fucked"
>>> with you.
>>
>> Huh?

A word Skeeter uses much too often.

>You admitted I never have...

Maybe you should?

DNC update: Lt Governor MN, Peggy Flanagan: "The Biden Harris Administration
laid the groundwork for a stronger more resilient nation. They invested in
critical infrastructure, delivered relief when disaster struck and made
healthcare more affordable. Kamala Harris cares and unlike Donald Trump she has
a plan not just for the next four or eight years but for generations to come."
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On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:35:50 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Go fuck yourself[, Klaus], boomer cracker asshole, psychotic gun owner, retard.
>>>You are a mistake of evolution, the self-evidence of white
>>>supremacy-ism's lie. You're the spawn of the devil.
>>
>>I just don't understand why people don't like you.
>
>
>It's OK to hate me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNImT0OqcI8), but
>I'm still necessary, to keep the world running well.

I've said often that lies are all they have.

I stand corrected. They also have hate.

My friends, are we, the People, going to let Donald Trump terminate our
Constitution and obliterate the blessings of liberty for our posterity? [crowd,
"NO!"] That's right! We're going to elect Kamala Harris, we're going to elect
the career prosecutor and inspiring public servant and Coach Walz; and we're
going to defeat Donald Trump the career criminal and incorrigible recidivist con
man and his pet chameleon JD Vance! And America, let's make it a landslide so
big that Donald Trump and his kangaroo Supreme Court Justices cannot even try to
steal it. Let's make every vote count. Let's make sure every vote is counted.
Let's let Freedom ring and let's let democracy work in America. -- Jamie Raskin
(D) MD
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In article <jdtfcjhl70fcnj8rdm11a1qt01848sadqq@4ax.com>,
joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>
> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Aug 22, 2024 at 11:50:43?AM MST, ""Scout"" wrote
> ><va81r1$hpqt$12@dont-email.me>:
> >> "Snit" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:66c772d3$0$1787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> >>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:15:38?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>> <66c77230$0$1785$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>> In article <66c77026$0$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
> >>>>
> >>>> Leave it to a lefty loon to think it can't happen.
> >>>
> >>> Cite someone who said that.
> >>
> >> Joel
> >
> >Message ID?
>
>
> He wants me to prove a negative. :)

You have never said what rights will be taken from you.

In article <66c7f7f5$0$2385538$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:37:32 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
> <jdtfcjhl70fcnj8rdm11a1qt01848sadqq@4ax.com>:
>
> > Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 22, 2024 at 11:50:43?AM MST, ""Scout"" wrote
> >> <va81r1$hpqt$12@dont-email.me>:
> >>> "Snit" <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:66c772d3$0$1787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com...
> >>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:15:38?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>> <66c77230$0$1785$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>> In article <66c77026$0$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Leave it to a lefty loon to think it can't happen.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cite someone who said that.
> >>>
> >>> Joel
> >>
> >> Message ID?
> >
> >
> > He wants me to prove a negative. :)
>
> His grasp on logic is clearly very weak.

I know you are a lying idiot.

In article <rj2gcjlub21v5vsrsiaa32csn2ajks9tfu@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On 22 Aug 2024 16:43:19 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 22, 2024 at 8:30:33?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> ><66c7599a$0$3068695$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >
> >> In article <66c74a0c$0$1428140$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 2:31:29 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>> <66c70572$0$2873008$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <66c6a0ab$0$3620714$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 7:04:58 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
> >>>>> <h17dcj518cvrmd0eps0b1p5kkkfbt93e1h@4ax.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>> news:66c6648d$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>>>>>>> In article <50eccj1fpek2tlb8dmd3t404caoq7ab61n@4ax.com>,
> >>>>>>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Your analysis is valid, I believe. Trump has to be able to overcome
> >>>>>>>>> the larger base we have, as 2020 showed,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You mean the fake ballots?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What fake ballots?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> >>>>>> fraud, but that right there shows how he operates and thinks, he says
> >>>>>> things that are stupid and ridiculous *but* that people will believe,
> >>>>>> if he says it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is also insane given how much of the military votes by mail.
> >>>>
> >>>> The military is a very small portion of the vote.
> >>>
> >>> And thus does not matter to Trump?
> >>
> >> Who said that? Oh you did.
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> He creates a false narrative, on all kinds of things,
> >>>>>> when it serves his purposes. And dumbshit Skeeter, here, eats it up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As does Carroll. He just repeats what Fox and Trump and the like says and
> >>>>> shows no understanding.
> >>>>
> >>>> What makes you think your sources are telling thee truth?
> >>>
> >>> I think it is extremely unlikely that multiple sources are using the same deep
> >>> fakes when they show Trump and NOBODY catches them.
> >>
> >> That didn't answer the question.
>
> Any Republican allegation is, in fact, a confession.
>
> >For people with brains it did.
>
> When the same fake appears in place after place, the lie is easily exposed.
>
> The right often accuses the left of cooperatively spreading disinformation
> despite all evidence to the contrary.
>
> Any Republican allegation is, in fact, a confession.
>
> Example: Some schmuck posted in here that Engeron had repeatedly molested his
> daughter. Intensively searching with multiple engines turned up only three
> mentions online.
>
> 1) A Gateway Pundit article without cites or sources.
> 2) The same article posted word for word to Twitter but *not* attributed to GP.
> 3) Another Twitter account posting a reworded version of the article citing GP
> as the source.
>
> Stumbled onto this:
> "Who is Arthur Engoron? Judge weighing future of Donald Trump empire is Ivy
> League-educated ex-cabbie"
> <https://apnews.com/article/trump-engoron-letitia-james-fraud-new-york-9bd42690d327f6f63c9eb31c046f8426>
>
> I find it fascinating that Trump's judge was working class.

and crooked.

In article <gh3gcjdkb9f1n2lvhq3dkeck7kcjhbc5hk@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 12:16:45 -0600, Chips Loral <loralandclinton@invalid.co>
> wrote:
>
> >Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/04/politics/trump-mail-in-early-
> >> voting/index.html
> >
> >"The new effort, dubbed ?Swamp The Vote USA,? comes as Republican
> >officials ramp up calls for their voter base to embrace early voting and
> >vote by mail options ahead of November?s election. The new initiative is
> >part of ?Trump Force 47,? which is sponsored by the Republican National
> >Committee and is focused on turning out voters in battleground states.
> >
> >?Republicans must win and we will use every appropriate tool to beat the
> >Democrats because they are destroying our country. Whether you vote
> >absentee, by mail, early in-person or on election day, we are going to
> >protect the vote. We make sure your ballot is secure and your voice is
> >heard,? Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, said in
> >a statement Tuesday."
> >
> >
> >Hoist by your own ballot box, leftard cornholer, LOL!
>
> I anticipate multiple reports of large numbers of fraudulent Trump votes after
> November, 5.

Why would the democrats vote for Trump?

In article <66c811e1$0$5668$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:23:48 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> <3l3gcj1mb07s3dqmdtc1r524n5okdlbknm@4ax.com>:
>
> > On 22 Aug 2024 17:06:47 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> > <snip>
> >> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
> >
> >
> > +1
> >
> > --
> > #NEVERtrump
>
> I sometimes wonder if they know what they reveal with their comments.

The truth while you run from it.

In article <1o3gcj5kkfp8ggqj4n5ckbfs81l2r0p9mh@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On 22 Aug 2024 23:14:30 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 22, 2024 at 1:41:42?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> ><66c7a287$0$3068679$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >
> >> In article <66c784f1$0$5641$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:26:00 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>> <66c774a9$0$3068689$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <66c772d3$0$1787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:15:38 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>>> <66c77230$0$1785$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In article <66c77026$0$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:06:46 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>>>>> <66c77027$0$212416$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In article <ehrecjhb5g9eb27fbhuh73dptf2lon9rmq@4ax.com>,
> >>>>>>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fraud,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL What a fucking joke.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a joke.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> How do you know?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
> >>>>>>>>>>> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
> >>>>>>>>>>> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
> >>>>>>>>>>> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
> >>>>>>>>> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Very easy.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Leave it to a lefty loon to think it can't happen.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cite someone who said that.
> >>>>
> >>>> As soon as you cite who said you were going to lose all those rights.
> >>>
> >>> All?
> >>>
> >>> But why not learn what Trump and the Republicans are doing? Hell, Trump was
> >>> bragging about harming equal rights for women until he realized how much that
> >>> was coming back to bite him.
> >>
> >> You're running again. You said if Trump won you would lose all those
> >> rights. Tell us how you know that.
> >
> >You made that up.
>
> Leave it to a Republican to project his own statement onto other people and then
> try to argue them out of "their" position.

He ran from answering like he always does.

In article <66c811cc$0$5667$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:25:20 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> <1o3gcj5kkfp8ggqj4n5ckbfs81l2r0p9mh@4ax.com>:
>
> > On 22 Aug 2024 23:14:30 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Aug 22, 2024 at 1:41:42?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >> <66c7a287$0$3068679$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>
> >>> In article <66c784f1$0$5641$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:26:00 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>> <66c774a9$0$3068689$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <66c772d3$0$1787$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:15:38 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>>>> <66c77230$0$1785$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In article <66c77026$0$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:06:46 AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>>>>>> <66c77027$0$212416$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In article <ehrecjhb5g9eb27fbhuh73dptf2lon9rmq@4ax.com>,
> >>>>>>>>> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fraud,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL What a fucking joke.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a joke.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you know?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
> >>>>>>>>>> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Very easy.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Leave it to a right winger to know how to cheat.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Leave it to a lefty loon to think it can't happen.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cite someone who said that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As soon as you cite who said you were going to lose all those rights.
> >>>>
> >>>> All?
> >>>>
> >>>> But why not learn what Trump and the Republicans are doing? Hell, Trump was
> >>>> bragging about harming equal rights for women until he realized how much that
> >>>> was coming back to bite him.
> >>>
> >>> You're running again. You said if Trump won you would lose all those
> >>> rights. Tell us how you know that.
> >>
> >> You made that up.
> >
> > Leave it to a Republican to project his own statement onto other people and
> > then
> > try to argue them out of "their" position.
> >
> > --
> > #NEVERtrump
>
> Carroll has followed me for years with that being one of his key trolling
> techniques.

You know Swill is a fag. I don't know if you are but you two should hook
up.

In article <9r3gcjdan5ntudlv2pc2mh4spdvjhj44b1@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:20:02 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
> >He also cannot explain how 3 weeks ago Harris was against fracking, against offshore oil drilling,
> >against ICE and so forth and now all of a sudden she flip flops. All within a couple of weeks.
>
> It's called "tacking to center". All US politicians in their primaries run to
> the extreme. Dems hard left, Cons extreme right. But in the GENERAL election,
> they tack back to center and that is usually where they govern from.
>
> Trump is proving to be an exception. He continues to run hard right.

She is still flip floping.

In article <66c811cf$1$1783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 9:28:03 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
> <9r3gcjdan5ntudlv2pc2mh4spdvjhj44b1@4ax.com>:
>
> > On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 00:20:02 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> He also cannot explain how 3 weeks ago Harris was against fracking, against
> >> offshore oil drilling,
> >> against ICE and so forth and now all of a sudden she flip flops. All within a
> >> couple of weeks.
> >
> > It's called "tacking to center". All US politicians in their primaries run to
> > the extreme. Dems hard left, Cons extreme right. But in the GENERAL election,
> > they tack back to center and that is usually where they govern from.
>
> This is even assuming the claims are true. My life has been busy and I have
> not been closely following things... so maybe it is but I would not trust
> Pothead if he told me water was wet.
> >
Of course. You always deny the truth.

In article <b64gcjdgbf9q4e4uc752cphjilv5ki5og8@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:51:36 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:n2tecj5fbtam8m8ue08hjrsb9fl795hqsu@4ax.com...
> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots
> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> opened it up to
> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> fraud,
> >>>> >> >> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
> >>>> >> >> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone
> >>>> >> >> >> >> else's ballot,
> >>>> >> >> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
> >>>> >> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
> >>>> >> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> >> It's not a joke.
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent
> >>>> >> >> voting
> >>>> >> >> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >How do you know?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
> >>>> >> lie. There are protocols for handling a mailed ballot. It's a
> >>>> >> sensitive document, falsifying it is a crime. It's not that easy to
> >>>> >> have "millions of ballots" get fraudulently used.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >It is when you can't vet them all which you know doesn't happen.
> >>>>
> >>>> It does happen, dude, this is serious business, it's imaginary to
> >>>> think that it'd be easy, to exploit these ballots.
> >>>
> >>>Very easy.
> >>
> >>
> >> You are the botnet, I guess, just a drone of Trump's.
> >
> >And just like that, Joel waves the white flag.
> >
>
> Doesn't look like a white flag to me. Looks like a bullseye.

Hey, Joel is an admitted fag. Maybe you two...you know.

In article <ck5gcjlrakg18qpr0kq090r1jf4sl8khb0@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:30:36 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:o5oecj984n339rsldv12b3tekglth4ddgg@4ax.com...
> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> >> >> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it
> >>>> >> >> >> up to
> >>>> >> >> >> fraud,
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's
> >>>> >> >> ballot,
> >>>> >> >> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >LOL What a fucking joke.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> It's not a joke.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >It is. You can't prove it is completely fraud free.
> >>>>
> >>>> "Completely", maybe not, but there certainly wasn't fraudulent voting
> >>>> going on to an extent that would change the outcome.
> >>>
> >>>How do you know?
> >>
> >>
> >> Because I actually look at information, instead of absorbing Trump's
> >> lie.
> >
> >Excellent. Please present that information so that we can look at it and
> >determine exactly how much election fraud was committed and how it was
> >proven that there wasn't enough to change the outcome.
>
> How about I present this instead?
>
> ....................../?¯/)
> ....................,/¯../
> .................../..../
> ............./?¯/'...'/?¯¯`·?
> ........../'/.../..../......./?¯\
> ........('(...?...?.... ¯~/'...')
> .........\.................'...../
> ..........''...\.......... _.·?
> ............\..............(
> ..............\.............\...

The answer you get when they can't refute.

In article <gbbgcj1noujfodlhjegnkfj932qmopk3uh@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 13:13:28 -0500, "Scout"
> <me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:72kecjd104vnjdvm1q8pi86jadqqvkuucs@4ax.com...
> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> >> Trump claimed that the massive use of mail-in ballots opened it up to
> >>>> >> fraud,
> >>>> >
> >>>> >It does. Explain why it wouldn't.
> >>>>
> >>>> Because it's not as simple as just filling out someone else's ballot,
> >>>> they verify them as they're processed and counted.
> >>>
> >>>LOL What a fucking joke.
> >>
> >>
> >> It's not a joke.
> >
> >Oh, you were serious?
> >
> >That's even more of a joke then.
> >
>
> Prove it.
>
> Taylor Swift just endorsed Kamala Harris in a sneaky way
> YouTube short
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Una2yQVEE>

One cunt supporting another cunt. Todays idiots will vote based on that.
Pathetic.

In article <vbcgcj1c09n1lqmp5rqfdq611c98tn4nr8@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On 22 Aug 2024 17:17:26 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:16:48?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> ><66c77277$0$1780$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >
> >> Why isn't cameltoe talking about hers?
> >
> >You want to talk to a cameltoe?
>
> He *is* a cameltoe.
>
> Capitol police Sgt Aquilino Gonell emigrated from the Dominican Republic and
> became a citizen. He served in the US Army in Iraq. On Jan 6, he was beaten
> and blinded. Trump sided with the attackers. "He betrayed us." Five officers
> died as a result of that day.

One murdered a girl.

In article <0hcgcj9uh1cq2qhlre7ggm9p95onav4bqg@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On 22 Aug 2024 18:33:23 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:37:52?AM MST, "Joel" wrote
> ><4ptecjpsd52lh2d7oid4huic4lb3l0nnpt@4ax.com>:
> >
> >> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:16:48?AM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>> <66c77277$0$1780$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> Why isn't cameltoe talking about hers?
> >>>
> >>> You want to talk to a cameltoe?
> >>
> >>
> >> Isn't it amazing, how misogynist these lamers are? Even *women*, who
> >> are MAGA, will say "he can grab my pussy any time he wants", and crap.
> >> What happened to this world?
> >
> >"It?s actually much better, because everyone who gets the congressional Medal
> >of Honor, that?s soldiers, they?re either in very bad shape because they?ve
> >been hit so many times by bullets, or they?re dead."
> >
> >A few years ago that would have been enough to end a presidential bid. Trump
> >does such things often. The Republicans do not care... their whole platform
> >these days is "PWN THE LIBS"... do things to actively harm others.
>
> "Do things to actively harm others." That's MAGA in a nutshell.
>
> Wes Moore, Governor of Maryland: "I joined the Army when I was 17. In fact, I
> was too young to sign the paperwork so my mom had to sign the paperwork for me
> because I don't have bone spurs."

When did you serve?

In article <8qcgcj5cfieo28q09j9e6dakff3nkohiuu@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 02:08:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:66c7a2d8$0$3068683
> >$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >
> >> In article <XnsB1D68A1CD2A5F629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >>> news:va7hji$f7q9$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>> > On 2024-08-22, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >> In article <kjgecjlcm4imt9o11lpd8vpl5n4svf8spv@4ax.com>,
> >>> >> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> >On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:03:42 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
> >>> >>> >wrote:
> >>> >>> >>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>>So you are against the police and law and order?
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>No, and neither is Harris and Walz, Trump doesn't get to claim
> >>> >>> >>ownership of that while *he* is the one having multiple felony
> >>> >>> >>cases against him.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >Harris, as a prosecutor, took on everybody from transnational
> >gangs
> >>> >>> >to the big banks.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >Trump is scared shitless of her.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >Several Republicans spoke at the DNC.
> >>> >>> >Jeff Duncan, former Georgia Lieutenant Governor "I am a
> >>> >>> >Republican, but today I stand here as an American." "We had
> >armed
> >>> >>> >officers outside our house protecting us from OTHER REPUBLICANS."
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> And people can't see what's before their very eyes, yes, they keep
> >>> >>> defending Trump.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I watched for the last 3 days what's about to come. It's scary.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> DNC = TRUMP
> >>> >
> >>> > It's frightening.
> >>> > And notice how the demons attack Trump's character, personality,
> >age,
> >>> > etc, Anything but talking about Trump's "failed policies". That's
> >>> > because they can't.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How did Trump's "and Mexico will pay for it"
> >>> policy work out?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How did Trump's "I will eliminate the entire
> >>> national debt" work out?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How did Trump's "I will only appoint the best
> >>> and the brightest" work out?
> >>
> >> Maybe if the left didn't stand in his way the whole time.
> >>
> >
> >
> > The entire first half of Trump's term
> >was spent with his party controlling THE
> >ENTIRE GOVERNMENT.
> >
> > Where were the balanced budgets?
> >
> > Where was the "big beautiful wall"?
> >
> > Where was the "reduced government spending"?
>
> Isn't it funny how, when they control the West Wing and both Houses, everything
> is still all the Democrats' fault?
>
> I say again, if the Democrats are THAT competent, THEY'RE who we need running
> the government. Who needs a bunch of whiny, incompetent Republicans?
>
Yet after 3 1/2 years you are still blaming Trump for everything.

In article <abdgcjh4u9bib5qndjr6c29tvfljaask19@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On 22 Aug 2024 23:32:44 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:27:56?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> ><66c7c97d$0$2385540$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >
> >> In article <66c7c65d$1$1427964$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 1:30:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>> <66c79fdd$0$3068685$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <66c784ba$1$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:29:42 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
> >>>>> <k8tecjt24kh23eg19blqsuoi8aoe5h835u@4ax.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
> >>>>>>>>>> find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
> >>>>>>>>>> boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
> >>>>>>>>>> who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
> >>>>>>>>>> have guns, even violent people.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
> >>>>>>>>> relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
> >>>>>>>>> it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If we were talking about something that isn't a lethal weapon, I'd be
> >>>>>>>> more willing to talk about "due process", we need to start acting like
> >>>>>>>> guns are what they are, instruments of human death. Are there valid
> >>>>>>>> uses of guns, yes, including self-defense, but someone the police are
> >>>>>>>> willing to assert is dangerous shouldn't possess them, even for a
> >>>>>>>> little while. If we can't trust the police to judge this, at least
> >>>>>>>> initially (there is always time to adjudicate), then we're just
> >>>>>>>> enabling monsters to commit violent crime.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I understand and empathize with your position but I find it rather extreme.
> >>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>> fifth and fourteenth amendments apply. Due process, sorry.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> You have to realize that guns are not "property" in the same manner
> >>>>>> that a couch is, or something, they're tools of death, they're
> >>>>>> regulated. "Due process" really could mean the police making a
> >>>>>> judgment, at least initially.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "A well regulated militia".
> >>>>
> >>>> Meaning the people.
> >>>
> >>> How are the people "well regulated"?
> >>
> >> Fuck with us and find out.
> >
> >Good for you to admit that contrary to your many claims I have never "fucked"
> >with you.
>
> I adore this fantasy they have that a few million of them, scattered all across
> the country can prevail against the United States government.
>
> It didn't work when they had their own country and it won't work now.

Who had their own country?

In article <hhdgcj9qbunnuuk5dvtd7plrkjpu38ib3s@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On 22 Aug 2024 23:41:41 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:39:34?PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> ><66c7cc38$0$1895503$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >
> >> In article <66c7ca9c$4$2385533$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>
> >>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 4:27:56 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>> <66c7c97d$0$2385540$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> In article <66c7c65d$1$1427964$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 1:30:20 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> >>>>> <66c79fdd$0$3068685$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In article <66c784ba$1$5651$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> >>>>>> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:29:42 AM MST, "Joel" wrote
> >>>>>>> <k8tecjt24kh23eg19blqsuoi8aoe5h835u@4ax.com>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> But it's not that simple, if the police investigate the claim, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> find it false, the person won't have their gun taken. The question
> >>>>>>>>>>>> boils down to whether you trust the police to do this. If not them,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> who? This "due process" BS is just a way of saying everyone should
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have guns, even violent people.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> No, it's not. We do not and should not have the power to go around arbitrarily
> >>>>>>>>>>> relieving people of their property. No matter what due process is decided on,
> >>>>>>>>>>> it must be followed. We are a nation of laws.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If we were talking about something that isn't a lethal weapon, I'd be
> >>>>>>>>>> more willing to talk about "due process", we need to start acting like
> >>>>>>>>>> guns are what they are, instruments of human death. Are there valid
> >>>>>>>>>> uses of guns, yes, including self-defense, but someone the police are
> >>>>>>>>>> willing to assert is dangerous shouldn't possess them, even for a
> >>>>>>>>>> little while. If we can't trust the police to judge this, at least
> >>>>>>>>>> initially (there is always time to adjudicate), then we're just
> >>>>>>>>>> enabling monsters to commit violent crime.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I understand and empathize with your position but I find it rather extreme.
> >>>>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>>> fifth and fourteenth amendments apply. Due process, sorry.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You have to realize that guns are not "property" in the same manner
> >>>>>>>> that a couch is, or something, they're tools of death, they're
> >>>>>>>> regulated. "Due process" really could mean the police making a
> >>>>>>>> judgment, at least initially.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "A well regulated militia".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Meaning the people.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How are the people "well regulated"?
> >>>>
> >>>> Fuck with us and find out.
> >>>
> >>> Good for you to admit that contrary to your many claims I have never "fucked"
> >>> with you.
> >>
> >> Huh?
>
> A word Skeeter uses much too often.
>
> >You admitted I never have...
>
> Maybe you should?

You had to snip. You lose.
>
> DNC update: Lt Governor MN, Peggy Flanagan: "The Biden Harris Administration
> laid the groundwork for a stronger more resilient nation. They invested in
> critical infrastructure, delivered relief when disaster struck and made
> healthcare more affordable. Kamala Harris cares and unlike Donald Trump she has
> a plan not just for the next four or eight years but for generations to come."

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:sjbgcjh4fhhovo35f02cm684uhla5foda5@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 18:52:28 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>news:va7o94$g5f1$3@dont-email.me:
>>
>>
>>> 1. Trump needs to destroy Kamala in the debates which we all know
>>> will be biased in favor of Kamala.
>>
>>
>> You really think Trump won't
>>chicken out of yet another debate?
>>
>>
>>
>>2. Trump needs to hammer home the mess
>>> 3.5 years of Biden/Kamala have made.
>>
>>
>> You mean the rising stock market,
>>the millions of new jobs created, the
>>"help wanted" signs everywhere, the
>>falling unemployment, the growers and
>>construction firm begging illegals NOT
>>to leave?
>
> Turns out the following is true. Since Poppy Bush was inaugurated,
> Republican Presidents have added 1 million new jobs, Democrats 50
> million. Add to this that all three Republicans ended their terms in
> an economic downturn and all three Democrats left behind a boom.
>
> "I didn't believe this, so I triple checked it. Since the end of the
> Cold War, America has created 51 million new jobs. So, what's the
> score? Democrats 50, Republicans 1." - Bill Clinton
>
> WAPO fact check: "Bureau of Labor Statistics data show that nearly 50
> million jobs were created from November 1989 [when the Berlin wall
> fell] through July of this year.
>
> By starting during George H.W. Bush�s term, Clinton skips over Ronald
> Reagan, a Republican who oversaw the creation of 16 million jobs.
> Instead, the period covered by his statistic included three
> Republicans � Bush, his son George W. Bush and Trump � who had poor
> jobs records.
>
> About 1 million jobs were created from November 1989 to the end of the
> first Bush term, 1.4 million under his son, and then a negative 2.7
> million under Trump (because of the pandemic). All three Republicans
> ended their terms with the country in economic downturns."
>
> "By contrast, 22.9 million jobs were created under Clinton, 11.6
> million under Barack Obama and 15.8 million under President Joe
> Biden."

And according to Trump every one
of those jobs was given to an illegal.

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:8qcgcj5cfieo28q09j9e6dakff3nkohiuu@4ax.com:

>
> "When they said it would take 11 months to reopen the port of
> Baltimore, we got it done in 11 weeks." -- Wes Moore, Governor of
> Maryland

Thanks to union workers.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:66c87b07$2$5668$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <8qcgcj5cfieo28q09j9e6dakff3nkohiuu@4ax.com>,
> governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 02:08:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >news:66c7a2d8$0$3068683 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >
>> >> In article <XnsB1D68A1CD2A5F629555@185.151.15.160>,
>> >> noemail@aol.com says...
>> >>>
>> >>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>> >>> news:va7hji$f7q9$1@dont-email.me:
>> >>>
>> >>> > On 2024-08-22, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >> In article <kjgecjlcm4imt9o11lpd8vpl5n4svf8spv@4ax.com>,
>> >>> >> joelcrump@gmail.com says...
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>> >On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 14:03:42 -0400, Joel
>> >>> >>> ><joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>> >>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> >>>So you are against the police and law and order?
>> >>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>> >>No, and neither is Harris and Walz, Trump doesn't get to
>> >>> >>> >>claim ownership of that while *he* is the one having
>> >>> >>> >>multiple felony cases against him.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >Harris, as a prosecutor, took on everybody from
>> >>> >>> >transnational
>> >gangs
>> >>> >>> >to the big banks.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >Trump is scared shitless of her.
>> >>> >>> >
>> >>> >>> >Several Republicans spoke at the DNC.
>> >>> >>> >Jeff Duncan, former Georgia Lieutenant Governor "I am a
>> >>> >>> >Republican, but today I stand here as an American." "We had
>> >armed
>> >>> >>> >officers outside our house protecting us from OTHER
>> >>> >>> >REPUBLICANS."
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> And people can't see what's before their very eyes, yes, they
>> >>> >>> keep defending Trump.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I watched for the last 3 days what's about to come. It's
>> >>> >> scary.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> DNC = TRUMP
>> >>> >
>> >>> > It's frightening.
>> >>> > And notice how the demons attack Trump's character,
>> >>> > personality,
>> >age,
>> >>> > etc, Anything but talking about Trump's "failed policies".
>> >>> > That's because they can't.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> How did Trump's "and Mexico will pay for it"
>> >>> policy work out?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> How did Trump's "I will eliminate the entire
>> >>> national debt" work out?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> How did Trump's "I will only appoint the best
>> >>> and the brightest" work out?
>> >>
>> >> Maybe if the left didn't stand in his way the whole time.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > The entire first half of Trump's term
>> >was spent with his party controlling THE
>> >ENTIRE GOVERNMENT.
>> >
>> > Where were the balanced budgets?
>> >
>> > Where was the "big beautiful wall"?
>> >
>> > Where was the "reduced government spending"?
>>
>> Isn't it funny how, when they control the West Wing and both Houses,
>> everything is still all the Democrats' fault?
>>
>> I say again, if the Democrats are THAT competent, THEY'RE who we need
>> running the government. Who needs a bunch of whiny, incompetent
>> Republicans?
>>
> Yet after 3 1/2 years you are still blaming Trump for everything.
>

He certainly won't blame himself.

"I am responsible. The buck stops with me."
Barack Obama, Mar 18, 2009

"I take responsibility"
Joe Biden, Aug 31, 2021

vs.......................

"I don't take responsibility at all"
Donald Trump, Mar 11, 2020