On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 11:58:14 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>In article <cb9o8j1u57d53qnu36ma2eig97ghhk05k0@4ax.com>,
>nobodys@busine.ss says...
>>
>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 11:37:58 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"El Kabong" wrote in message
>> >news:0eem8j5ugae9reb95cbh2jblg7u1hme03d@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >>Andrew W wrote:
>> >>> "El Kabong" wrote in message
>> >>> >Governor Swill wrote:
>> >>> >> On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:39:01 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> >On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:34:14 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>> >>> >> ><rudy@phil.hendrie.con>
>> >>> >> >>On 7/2/2024 6:08 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>> >>> >> >>> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
>> >>> >> >(snip)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >>>> What I do here I do on my own. I do enjoy the company of
>> >>> >> >>>> likeminded
>> >>> >> >>>> people here, people who are better informed and more eloquent
>> >>> >> >>>> than I
>> >>> >> >>>> am.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>There are not many of those, Malte Runz. You're well informed, well
>> >>> >> >>educated and
>> >>> >> >>exceedingly eloquent.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >Damned nice of you to say. Andrew never has anything positive to say
>> >>> >> >about me... or you, for that matter.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> He never has anything nice to say about anybody.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Andrew has said some nice things about Putin.
>> >>>
>> >>> Rubbish. You leftists imagine stuff all the time. All I said was there
>> >>> are
>> >>> far more corrupt people, orgs and agencies in the world like the CIA,
>> >>> FBI,
>> >>> orgs like the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg group, Senior
>> >>> Executive
>> >>> Service, CDC, WHO, WEF, EU, Lobby groups, corporations like Blackrock,
>> >>> drug
>> >>> corporations etc. There are hundreds.
>> >>> Putin and Trump are just big distractions for dumbco's like you to rally
>> >>> against and keep you in the dark about the real major problems in the
>> >>> world.
>> >>
>> >>"Despite what the western media claims, Putin is not the
>> >>bad guy.
>> >>These pathetic accusations are just a distraction and a
>> >>way to start WWIII."
>> >>
>> >><https://groups.google.com/g/alt.atheism/c/WcjULJEtfwE/m/gn94SUbjAAAJ>
>> >>
>> >>Would you like to revisit & revise that opinion?
>> >>
>> >
>> >I didn't say Putin is 100% good.
>>
>> I hadn't read this before I posted my other reply. So, as I said
>> there:
>>
>> Fuck you!
>
>You upset little fella?

Maybe he just doesn't like being lied to.

Swill

"Some Republicans express buyer's remorse over Vance VP pick"

"Vice President Kamala Harris' sudden elevation as Donald Trump's opponent has some
Republicans second-guessing the former president's selection of Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) as
his running mate.

Why it matters: While President Biden was refusing to budge last week in the face of
mounting Democratic pressure, Trump chose the outspoken senator as a tribute — and
potential heir — to the hardline MAGA movement.

Vance's nomination at the GOP convention came at the peak of the party's confidence about
the 2024 election, which polls suggested was shaping up to be a potential landslide.
But less than a week later, Biden was out and Harris was in — scrambling the polls and
detonating the Trump campaign's assumptions about the electoral playing field.
Behind the scenes: "The road got a lot harder. He was the only pick that wasn't the safe
pick. And I think everyone has now realized that," one House Republican told Axios,
speaking on the condition of anonymity to candidly discuss his party's VP nominee.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum were the two other finalists
to be Trump's running mate.
Some more establishment-minded Republicans had advocated for former UN ambassador Nikki
Haley or Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin to appeal to moderates and suburban swing voters.
"On the whole, the feeling is: doesn't add much," another House Republican said of Trump
picking Vance.
"And now with Kamala at the top, the capacity to have expanded the map a little bit ...
would have been much more beneficial."
Zoom in: Coming out of the GOP convention, Vance is the least-liked non-incumbent VP
nominee since at least 1980 — and the first to register a net negative favorability
rating, according to CNN data analyst Harry Enten.

The freshman senator and "Hillbilly Elegy" author won his 2022 election in Ohio by 6
percentage points — 2 points less than Trump's winning margin in the state two years
earlier.
Vance, who faced the popular and well-funded Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan, underperformed
every statewide Republican on the ticket that year, running 20 points behind Ohio Gov.
Mike DeWine.
<https://www.axios.com/2024/07/25/jd-vance-kamala-harris-trump-election>

#nevertrump

Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov's analysis of Vance: "A hillbilly ruse!"

Even the Russians don't trust him. Probably because he used to be gay.

They're worried he'll damage Trump's chances to win.

#nevertrump

On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:55:17 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>The real truth is you don't actually know the first thing about Putin. You
>go 100% on leftist hearsay. You are worse than a hypocrite.

The real truth is that like most of the assholes sucking Trump's dick, you can't wait to
wrap your lips around Putin's.

#nevertrump

On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:04:38 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>I only said he's not as corrupt as the deep state and its minions. You
>assume the rest.
>You don't know the true level of corruption in this world. Putin, like Trump
>are against the deep state. That's why they smear and slander them. They're
>a major threat to the NWO and great reset.

Just like Trump, you stupidly said the wrong thing and now you're trying to box your way
out of it.

Too late, asshole. You've now identified yourself as an America hating commie lover.

#nevertrump

On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 22:42:14 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:

>Here's a question for you. How many asylum seekers are flocking to
>Russia's borders these days? Do a little research and come back with
>an answer. There will be follow-up questions.

Hey, Andrew! How much proof do you want that you're *wrong*?

Get Lost, previously Go by the Forest (Russian: ????? ?????, romanized: Idite Lesom), is
an anti-war charity founded by Grigory Sverdlin in Tbilisi, Georgia shortly after the
announcement of a partial mobilisation of reservists in Russia on 21 September 2022.
By 1 December 2023, Get Lost said it had advised nearly 20,000 on how to avoid
conscription[1][2][3] and by 4 March 2024 had helped 520 people to desert.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Lost_(organisation)

And that's just the soldiers.

The real reason the right likes Russia:

"Party may be over for Russians in Sri Lanka after ‘whites only’ event fuels outrage
Officials in the South Asian country, where Russians and Ukrainians have fled the war in
Ukraine, said they were canceling long-term tourist visa extensions amid public fury over
the event."
<https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/sri-lanka-russia-ukraine-whites-only-party-fuels-outrage-rcna140640>

"Why are people leaving Russia, who are they, and where are they going?"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65790759

"Thousands of Russians Flee to Thailand to Escape War "
<https://www.voanews.com/a/thousands-of-russians-flee-to-thailand-to-escape-war-/6979011.html>

"Trouble in paradise as Bali loses patience with Russians, Ukrainians fleeing war"
<https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/18/asia/indonesia-russians-ukrainians-fleeing-war-intl-hnk/index.html>

"Thousands of Russians flocked to Dubai after the Kremlin’s invasion of Ukraine two years
ago. Fleeing military conscription and economic dislocation, they rushed to the United
Arab Emirates’ business hub to buy property, found companies and start branches of their
Moscow operations—or just build new lives from scratch."
<https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-22/russians-transform-dubai-as-they-flee-putin-s-war-photo-essay>

"Photos: Russians flee to neighbouring countries amid mobilisation
Over 194,000 Russians have fled to Finland, Georgia and Kazakhstan since Putin’s call to
fight in Ukraine war."
<https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2022/9/28/photos-russians-flee-to-neighbouring-countries-amid-mobilisation>

"In a major backfire, more Russians are leaving the country because of Putin’s
mobilization order than are actually joining the military"
<https://fortune.com/europe/2022/10/04/more-russians-flee-country-putin-mobilization-order-than-join-military/>

#nevertrump

On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:04:38 +1000, "Andrew W" wrote:

>Their economy is better than America's right now. And their people are doing
>better in general.

Their inflation rate is 8.73% and rising, their interest rates are 18% and rising, from
it's peak in 2013 of $2.29T, their GDP is now $2.02T and falling.

<https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/core-inflation-rate>

Russian central bank hikes rates by 200 bps to 18%, highest in more than two years
<https://www.reuters.com/markets/rates-bonds/russian-central-bank-hikes-rates-by-200-bps-18-highest-more-than-two-years-2024-07-26/>

<https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?end=2023&locations=RU&start=2009>

Why don't you research some facts once in a while instead of spewing Russian talking
points?

#nevertrump

On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:32:21 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 10:36:48 -0700, J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
>wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>>Andrea is an exceptionally untalented and inartful troll, but a troll she is.
>
>He's not aware that he displays typical troll behavior. He's just
>giving us all the heads up on all the important things in the world.
>
>>She doesn't believe one fucking word she writes.
>
>I disagree. I'm almost certain, no, I'm certain, he believes what he
>says is true. I've met bona fide kooks in the flesh. He's one of them,
>for sure. All the stuff about space aliens from Orion, remote viewing,
>deep state cabal, the baby eaters, Tesla's magical machines, 'the
>commies are coming', Trumpman the Savior... In his world it's all
>real. He has connected the dots, read the writing on the wall, and
>after decades of research he is able to see
>
> -->> THE BIG PICTURE <<--

The bilderbergers, CFR, illuminati ... All of it straight from the John Birch conspirakook
playbook.

>If anything, he could be the most convincing Poe on the internet, and
>if that turns out to be the case, I'll throw my self in the dirt and
>confess that I had been had like I've never been had before... and not
>in the good way.

#nevertrump

"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in news:v7v44r$2lsms$1@dont-
email.me:

> "Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> news:XnsB1BAD4DA48840629555@185.151.15.190...
>>
>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>news:v7usdi$2h0kj$1@dont-email.me:
>>
>>> "Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>> news:csu4ajpje5anbr16voftnnh2p7fd40fhtt@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 15:55:31 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>>>news:XnsB1A6D1A2B28A7629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>news:v69v69$3ftd1$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>And a Trump presidency will fix that how? By getting back to low
>>>>>>>>unemployment?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By bringing manufacturing back to America for a start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nothing says "bring jobs back to America"
>>>>>>like a president who made a career out of
>>>>>>EXPORTING American jobs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>China's factories pull in the profits
>>>>>>by making Trump merchandise
>>>>>>Oct 1, 2020
>>>>>>https://tinyurl.com/nha2prup
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Trump 2020 banners made in China during
>>>>>>"Made in America" week
>>>>>>July 27, 2018
>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/y9m3go4d
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Donald Trump Once Again Blasted for Having
>>>>>>Products Made in China
>>>>>>August 11, 2020
>>>>>>https://tinyurl.com/3522ynfx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Trump Is Selling New Merchandise Made in China
>>>>>>Nov. 28, 2017
>>>>>>https://tinyurl.com/232mru6f
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Donald Trump's Menswear Line Is Made in Mexico
>>>>>>Aug 24, 2015
>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/oos7nfo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Donald Trump suits and ties are made in China
>>>>>>March 8, 2016
>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/jdlk8eu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Donald Trump shirts are made in Bangledesh
>>>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Trump Inauguration hats made in Vietnam
>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/gkset93
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>So just small items then.
>>>>
>>>>Also steaks, wine, crystal, silver, housewares, suits and casual
>>>>clothing, the bed and
>>>>bath linen for all his hotels, the list is endless. Then there are
>>>>the imported
>>>>construction laborers who built the hotel out of imported steel, the
>>>>imported gardeners
>>>>who mow the lawns, the imported maids that make the beds that were
>>>>manufactured in China.
>>>>The list, as I said, is endless.
>>>>
>>>>And you guys think this billionaire job exporter has *your* best
>>>>interests at heart? LOL!
>>>>
>>>>Swill
>>>>
>>>
>>> So you think that the whole of America is stuffed just because Donald
>>> Trump bought some things that weren't made in America? You people are
>>> cuckoo.
>>
>>
>> Trump exported his manufacturing
>>work rather than hire Americans do it.
>>
>
> A lie from the left.
> Trump bought back manufacturing to America.
>

Huh?

Trump ADMITS exporting jobs!

Donald Trump: I Never Disputed That Some of My
Clothing Line Was Made in Mexico
October 19, 2015
http://tinyurl.com/jkf92lv

Trump 2020 banners made in China during
"Made in America" week
July 27, 2018
http://tinyurl.com/y9m3go4d

Donald Trump suits and ties are made in China
March 8, 2016
http://tinyurl.com/jdlk8eu

Donald Trump Once Again Blasted for Having
Products Made in China
August 11, 2020
https://tinyurl.com/3522ynfx

Trump Is Selling New Merchandise Made in China
Nov. 28, 2017
https://tinyurl.com/232mru6f

Donald Trump's Menswear Line Is Made in Mexico
Aug 24, 2015
http://tinyurl.com/oos7nfo

Donald Trump suits and ties are made in China
March 8, 2016
http://tinyurl.com/jdlk8eu

Donald Trump shirts are made in Bangledesh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc

Trump Inauguration hats made in Vietnam
http://tinyurl.com/gkset93

Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2u56ajh696j5vr4k8vbcf381mk1b8lpqk5@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 13:11:20 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> Trump exported his manufacturing
>>>work rather than hire Americans do it.
>>
>>A lie from the left.
>>Trump bought back manufacturing to America.
>
> A lie from the right.
>
> No, he didn't.
>
> Obama and Biden both passed legislation to stimulate manufacturing.
> All Trump did was cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations and give
> away $4T.

Indeed.

Under Trump, US jobs are moving overseas even faster than before
Dec 1 2017

"We're just shipping company after company
after company is leaving this country and
leaving jobs behind," president Donald Trump
said on the campaign trail last year. "And
I'm going to get it stopped."

So far, not so good. A group that advocates
for federal workers says government records
show (pdf) more than 10,000 jobs at federal
contractors have been sent over overseas
since Trump was elected. That's more than
double the average annual amount during
Barack Obama's presidency.
https://tinyurl.com/49mw7era

On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 13:58:50 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>In article <80go8jppgm82ftaml98kavvgeql58r2bjv@4ax.com>,
>nobodys@busine.ss says...
>>
>> On Mon, 08 Jul 2024 12:16:29 -0700, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Malte Runz wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 09:24:32 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>> >> >"El Kabong" wrote in message
>> >> >>Governor Swill wrote:
>> >> >>> On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:39:01 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:
>> >> >>> >On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:34:14 -0700, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con>
>> >> >>> >>On 7/2/2024 6:08 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>> >> >>> >>> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
>> >> >>> >(snip)
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >>>> What I do here I do on my own. I do enjoy the company of likeminded
>> >> >>> >>>> people here, people who are better informed and more eloquent than I
>> >> >>> >>>> am.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >>There are not many of those, Malte Runz. You're well informed, well
>> >> >>> >>educated and
>> >> >>> >>exceedingly eloquent.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >Damned nice of you to say. Andrew never has anything positive to say
>> >> >>> >about me... or you, for that matter.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> He never has anything nice to say about anybody.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Andrew has said some nice things about Putin.
>> >> >
>> >> >Rubbish. You leftists imagine stuff all the time. All I said was
>> >>
>> >> Putin fights corruption. Putin fights the Neo Nazis. Putin fights the
>> >> Deep state. And of course: "Putin is not the bad guy."
>> >>
>> >> (snip)
>> >
>> >Putin has a billion-dollar mansion on the Black Sea. Not
>> >bad for a corruption fighter.
>> >
>> ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Palace>
>>
>> Putin reported an income of $756,000 from 2017-2022. He sure knows how
>> to stretch a Ruble! Not only does he own the modest mansion you
>> mentioned, he also "owns one apartment (77 square meters) and a garage
>> (18 square meters) in the city of St. Petersburg, three cars produced
>> by Russian automobile industry, and a trailer."
>>
>> A trailer! Truly a man of the people.
>
>Why and how did the Obummers end up with 4 mansions?

By making a decent living and managing their capital well.

Swill

On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 10:59:26 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:

>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>news:csu4ajpje5anbr16voftnnh2p7fd40fhtt@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 15:55:31 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
>>>news:XnsB1A6D1A2B28A7629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>
>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>news:v69v69$3ftd1$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And a Trump presidency will fix that how? By getting back to low
>>>>>>unemployment?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By bringing manufacturing back to America for a start.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nothing says "bring jobs back to America"
>>>>like a president who made a career out of
>>>>EXPORTING American jobs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>China's factories pull in the profits
>>>>by making Trump merchandise
>>>>Oct 1, 2020
>>>>https://tinyurl.com/nha2prup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Trump 2020 banners made in China during
>>>>"Made in America" week
>>>>July 27, 2018
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/y9m3go4d
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Donald Trump Once Again Blasted for Having
>>>>Products Made in China
>>>>August 11, 2020
>>>>https://tinyurl.com/3522ynfx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Trump Is Selling New Merchandise Made in China
>>>>Nov. 28, 2017
>>>>https://tinyurl.com/232mru6f
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Donald Trump's Menswear Line Is Made in Mexico
>>>>Aug 24, 2015
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/oos7nfo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Donald Trump suits and ties are made in China
>>>>March 8, 2016
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/jdlk8eu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Donald Trump shirts are made in Bangledesh
>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Trump Inauguration hats made in Vietnam
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/gkset93
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>So just small items then.
>>
>>Also steaks, wine, crystal, silver, housewares, suits and casual clothing,
>>the bed and
>>bath linen for all his hotels, the list is endless. Then there are the
>>imported
>>construction laborers who built the hotel out of imported steel, the
>>imported gardeners
>>who mow the lawns, the imported maids that make the beds that were
>>manufactured in China.
>>The list, as I said, is endless.
>>
>>And you guys think this billionaire job exporter has *your* best interests
>>at heart? LOL!
>>
>>Swill
>>
>
>So you think ...

'WARNING! WARNING! This is an automated alert system. Potential
Strawman ahead! Potential Strawman ahead!'

> ... that the whole of America is stuffed just because Donald Trump
>bought some things that weren't made in America? You people are cuckoo.

Says the founder of the software company: "The system we've developed,
using what we call 'Narrow Language Models' based AI, is now so good
that we can predict a strawman with 98% certainty."

--
Malte Runz

"A single Russian tank can burn a very long time. Especially when its ammunition
detonates." (video 18:40)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jXITdeWFF8

#nevertrump

On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:21:30 -0700, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:

>Malte Runz wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:27:05 -0700, El Kabong <twang@the.noodle> wrote:
<snip>
>> >He probably hires a couple full-time Cuban mechanics to
>> >keep the Ladas running. For riding around Moscow, surely
>> >he has a fleet of Lincoln and Humvee stretch limos.
>>
>> I don't know... I think he might be going for something a bit more
>> secure for a man in his position:
>> https://tinyurl.com/dbpjzw4z
>
>Cool.
>
>The Ukrainians discovered a vulnerability in Russian
>tanks. If you hit them right under the turret with a
>grenade launcher, the whole turret blows off.

See it happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jXITdeWFF8

Swill

On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 11:59:54 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>"El Kabong" wrote in message
>news:1leo8j1lpnaf821gnrsr9u90gcvg5kvhoh@4ax.com...
>>
>>Malte Runz wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 09:24:32 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>> >"El Kabong" wrote in message
>>> >>Governor Swill wrote:
>>> >>> On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:39:01 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>> >On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:34:14 -0700, Rudy Canoza
>>> >>> ><rudy@phil.hendrie.con>
>>> >>> >>On 7/2/2024 6:08 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>>> >>> >>> "Malte Runz" wrote in message
>>> >>> >(snip)
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>>> What I do here I do on my own. I do enjoy the company of
>>> >>> >>>> likeminded
>>> >>> >>>> people here, people who are better informed and more eloquent
>>> >>> >>>> than I
>>> >>> >>>> am.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>There are not many of those, Malte Runz. You're well informed, well
>>> >>> >>educated and
>>> >>> >>exceedingly eloquent.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >Damned nice of you to say. Andrew never has anything positive to say
>>> >>> >about me... or you, for that matter.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> He never has anything nice to say about anybody.
>>> >>
>>> >>Andrew has said some nice things about Putin.
>>> >
>>> >Rubbish. You leftists imagine stuff all the time. All I said was
>>>
>>> Putin fights corruption. Putin fights the Neo Nazis. Putin fights the
>>> Deep state. And of course: "Putin is not the bad guy."
>>>
>>> (snip)
>>
>>Putin has a billion-dollar mansion on the Black Sea. Not
>>bad for a corruption fighter.
>>
>><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Palace>
>>
>
>Democrat politicians and judges etc. have billion-dollar mansions too, and
>more. So what?

Name one.

Swill

On Thu, 11 Jul 2024 11:16:13 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>Words is all you can deal with.

Words are more than you can deal with.

Swill

On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 12:20:25 -0600, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:

>In article <qkhe8j1v89b1nr30s48rvmhhtp6rkb67pr@4ax.com>,
>governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 23:39:01 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:34:14 -0700, Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 7/2/2024 6:08 PM, Andrew W wrote:
>> >>> "Malte Runz"  wrote in message news:7nc88j1jau3b5keqt9ct6c6ajemp6ilck8@4ax.com...
>> >(snip)
>> >
>> >>>> What I do here I do on my own. I do enjoy the company of likeminded
>> >>>> people here, people who are better informed and more eloquent than I
>> >>>> am.
>> >>
>> >>There are not many of those, Malte Runz. You're well informed, well educated and
>> >>exceedingly eloquent.
>> >
>> >Damned nice of you to say. Andrew never has anything positive to say
>> >about me... or you, for that matter.
>>
>> He never has anything nice to say about anybody.

>Like you do?

Sure. I've said nice things to and about other people. It basically right wing hard
liners and opponents of Democracy and America (like Trump, Putin and Kim) that I have a
problem with.

#nevertrump

On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 09:53:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:

>Says one who calls a politician a criminal, rapist, insurrectionist etc.
>with no real evidence except the Dem ballyhooing and Dem voting and biased
>prosecutors, judges, and juries.

Well, with all *those* people saying it, it must be true!

Swill

On Mon, 08 Jul 2024 20:01:21 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote:

>Tons and tons of evidence. Physical evidence, videos, recordings, text
>messages, witnesses, paper trails a mile long. The man is a crook, he
>knows it and he deserves to be put away for good.

He's spent his entire career screwing people over. Karma is a beeyotch.

#nevertrump

On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 11:09:52 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
wrote:

>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>news:aru4aj9a897fjccvnbr8ckf426a184ti9p@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:21:42 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I check with people who are in touch with reality.
>>
>>No, you don't.
>>

'We're currently working on expanding our automated fallacy-alert
system to also include ad hom warnings.'

>You as a leftist are not in a position to make judgements about reality and
>people.

WARNING! WARNING! This is an automated alert system. Ad hom detected.
Ad hom detected!

'This is still a beta version, but as you can see we're making great
progress.'

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 23:34:37 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 11:09:52 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
>>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>news:aru4aj9a897fjccvnbr8ckf426a184ti9p@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:21:42 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I check with people who are in touch with reality.
>>>
>>>No, you don't.
>>>
>>
>>You as a leftist are not in a position to make judgements about reality and
>>people.
>
>I'm not a leftist, I'm a centrist. Remember this: It's not the Democrat or Republican
>bases who settle elections. The Dems will always vote blue, the Cons will always vote
>red. Elections are decided by the center, the swing voter, the unaffiliated, me. ;)

I went looking for some data on how many swing voters there are in the
US.

https://tinyurl.com/4syed8d9
"It's unclear how many partake in swinging today – some estimates have
said 2% or less – though one study from the North American Swing Club
Alliance said 15% of U.S. couples have tried it at least once in their
married lives."

Err...? Sometimes Google is not as smart as it thinks it is.

Regarding the other kind of 'swingers' it's a bit fuzzy and not easy
to put a number on them.

https://tinyurl.com/umwhcphm
"However, some political scientists, like Corwin Smidt, who studies
vote choice at Michigan State, argue that the percentage of swing
voters is, in fact, much lower and in decline — he estimated just 6
percent of all Americans voted for a different party in 2016 than the
one they backed in 2012. Smidt uses a much narrower definition of what
a swing voter is — someone who consistently votes, but switches back
and forth between the two major parties."

"A new study from the Kaiser Family Foundation certainly seems to
suggest that’s the case, classifying 30 percent of registered voters
as swing voters. Why is KFF’s number so much higher than our estimates
using Mayer’s or Smidt’s approach? For one thing, KFF is trying to
account for people who might not always vote but could turn out if
motivated. Part of the problem with understanding just how many swing
voters exist is that many potential voters don’t consistently turn
out."

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In article <XnsB1BAD558A63E6629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> news:v7utop$2h70q$1@dont-email.me:
>
> > "Governor Swill" wrote in message
> > news:9qj5ajdihjug4nepaj9uksf7j1kkdnchgm@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 12:40:50 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote
> >>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote
> >>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote
> >>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote
> >>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote
> >>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump's associates were imprisoned by crooked Dem voting
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>RINO prosecutors and judges.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And now, the facts:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Roger Stone - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Steve Bannon - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Mike Flynn - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump associate PAul Manafort - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Michael Cohen - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump associate Rick Gates - prosecuted by Trump DOJ
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Jan 6 rioters - prosecuted by Trump DOJ.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Don't bother pushing this "Trump DOJ" crap. Those were
> >>>>>>>>>>> take-downs by the corrupt of those who oppose them.
> >>>>>>>>>>>That's totalitarianism and tyranny.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So Trump cannot protect his friends
> >>>>>>>>>>from his own Justice Dept? How lame is that?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Who said Trump is like Superman? He can't be everywhere at
> >>>>>>>>> once and do everything.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Trump BRAGS about what a "hands on"
> >>>>>>>>manager he is, how he controls his empire
> >>>>>>>>on a tight leash. And yet he cannot control
> >>>>>>>>his own Justice Dept?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Why do you believe his promises if
> >>>>>>>>he cannot keep them?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The first step is to expose the crooks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The first step is for Trump to stop hiring crooks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why? To allow corruption and crime to grow and fester? Leftists do
> >>>>that.
> >>>>
> >>>> OBama - no appointees arrested or indicted.
> >>>
> >>>That's because Obama's corrupt.
> >>
> >>It's because Obama and *his* appointees were competent and honest.
> >>
> >
> > Are you really that much of an MSM following fool?
> >
> >
>
> Just explain why Trump didnt prosecute
> a single Obama appointee.

Maybe because he would rather spend the time and money on running the
country. Unlike your current admin.

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?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

In article <XnsB1BAD1E35D777629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:MPG.410c4770bc1c6d6f9896e0@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > In article <XnsB1BA7F62676CE629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:csu4ajpje5anbr16voftnnh2p7fd40fhtt@4ax.com:
> >>
> >> > On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 15:55:31 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> >> >>news:XnsB1A6D1A2B28A7629555@185.151.15.190...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> >> >>>news:v69v69$3ftd1$1@dont-email.me:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>And a Trump presidency will fix that how? By getting back to low
> >> >>>>>unemployment?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> By bringing manufacturing back to America for a start.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Nothing says "bring jobs back to America"
> >> >>>like a president who made a career out of
> >> >>>EXPORTING American jobs.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>China's factories pull in the profits
> >> >>>by making Trump merchandise
> >> >>>Oct 1, 2020
> >> >>>https://tinyurl.com/nha2prup
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Trump 2020 banners made in China during
> >> >>>"Made in America" week
> >> >>>July 27, 2018
> >> >>>http://tinyurl.com/y9m3go4d
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Donald Trump Once Again Blasted for Having
> >> >>>Products Made in China
> >> >>>August 11, 2020
> >> >>>https://tinyurl.com/3522ynfx
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Trump Is Selling New Merchandise Made in China
> >> >>>Nov. 28, 2017
> >> >>>https://tinyurl.com/232mru6f
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Donald Trump's Menswear Line Is Made in Mexico
> >> >>>Aug 24, 2015
> >> >>>http://tinyurl.com/oos7nfo
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Donald Trump suits and ties are made in China
> >> >>>March 8, 2016
> >> >>>http://tinyurl.com/jdlk8eu
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Donald Trump shirts are made in Bangledesh
> >> >>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Trump Inauguration hats made in Vietnam
> >> >>>http://tinyurl.com/gkset93
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>So just small items then.
> >> >
> >> > Also steaks, wine, crystal, silver, housewares, suits and casual
> >> > clothing, the bed and bath linen for all his hotels, the list is
> >> > endless. Then there are the imported construction laborers who
> built
> >> > the hotel out of imported steel, the imported gardeners who mow the
> >> > lawns, the imported maids that make the beds that were manufactured
> in
> >> > China. The list, as I said, is endless.
> >> >
> >> > And you guys think this billionaire job exporter has *your* best
> >> > interests at heart? LOL!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If Trump fucks over the people
> >> he knows what concern does he have
> >> for the people he DOESN'T know?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Trump?s Long History of Getting Sued by His Own Lawyers
> >> Aug 18 2020
> >>
> >> Trump underpaid at least four law firms or
> >> lawyers who worked for him, according to
> >> various news outlets that looked into Trump?s
> >> history of cheating his contractors. One of
> >> them, Morrison Cohen LLP of New York City,
> >> had represented Trump in a lawsuit against a
> >> construction contractor that Trump claimed
> >> had overcharged him for work on a golf course.
> >> According to USA Today, Trump sued Morrison
> >> Cohen for using the case to help promote its
> >> work, and the firm countersued for almost
> >> $500,000 in unpaid bills. The case was
> >> settled in 2009.
> >>
> >> It wasn?t just big amounts Trump tried to get
> >> out of paying, either. Bill Scherer, a lawyer
> >> in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, had to sue Trump
> >> in 1994 to collect $5,000 in unpaid legal
> >> bills from a case Scherer won for the
> >> billionaire. The lawyer told Reuters last year
> >> that he had offered Trump a low rate to "curry
> >> favor" with the mogul, but still had to sue.
> >> "He?s a deadbeat," Scherer told South Florida?s
> >> Sun-Sentinel newspaper.
> >> https://tinyurl.com/4nyxar7j
> >
> > What is your point?
>
>
> Trump uses people and throws them away.
>
> Ask his former attorneys and suppliers
> and wives and investorts. Ask his Jan 6
> "Patriots" that he claims to love but will
> not lift a finger to help. Steve Bannon,
> Sidney Powell, Mike Lindell, Rudi Guiiani -
> all cast aside and abandoned after Trump
> found no more use for them.

That never happened. They did it to themselves.

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realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

In article <9i56ajla902ivifqdacp66dhgi5eur6224@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 13:05:50 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote:
>
> >"Mitchell Holman" wrote
> <snip>
> >> Trump uses people and throws them away.
> >>
> >> Ask his former attorneys and suppliers
> >>and wives and investorts. Ask his Jan 6
> >>"Patriots" that he claims to love but will
> >>not lift a finger to help. Steve Bannon,
> >>Sidney Powell, Mike Lindell, Rudi Guiiani -
> >>all cast aside and abandoned after Trump
> >>found no more use for them.
> >>
> >
> >You got all this from the loony left as always.
>
> That's where you find the facts. Trump throws them away before the snot is dry ... Cohen,
> Omarossa ...
>
You speak what MSM tells you.

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?Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to
realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.?

In article <XnsB1BAD4DA48840629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
says...
>
> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> news:v7usdi$2h0kj$1@dont-email.me:
>
> > "Governor Swill" wrote in message
> > news:csu4ajpje5anbr16voftnnh2p7fd40fhtt@4ax.com...
> >>
> >>On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 15:55:31 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
> >>>news:XnsB1A6D1A2B28A7629555@185.151.15.190...
> >>>>
> >>>>"Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
> >>>>news:v69v69$3ftd1$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>And a Trump presidency will fix that how? By getting back to low
> >>>>>>unemployment?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> By bringing manufacturing back to America for a start.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Nothing says "bring jobs back to America"
> >>>>like a president who made a career out of
> >>>>EXPORTING American jobs.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>China's factories pull in the profits
> >>>>by making Trump merchandise
> >>>>Oct 1, 2020
> >>>>https://tinyurl.com/nha2prup
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Trump 2020 banners made in China during
> >>>>"Made in America" week
> >>>>July 27, 2018
> >>>>http://tinyurl.com/y9m3go4d
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Donald Trump Once Again Blasted for Having
> >>>>Products Made in China
> >>>>August 11, 2020
> >>>>https://tinyurl.com/3522ynfx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Trump Is Selling New Merchandise Made in China
> >>>>Nov. 28, 2017
> >>>>https://tinyurl.com/232mru6f
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Donald Trump's Menswear Line Is Made in Mexico
> >>>>Aug 24, 2015
> >>>>http://tinyurl.com/oos7nfo
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Donald Trump suits and ties are made in China
> >>>>March 8, 2016
> >>>>http://tinyurl.com/jdlk8eu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Donald Trump shirts are made in Bangledesh
> >>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Trump Inauguration hats made in Vietnam
> >>>>http://tinyurl.com/gkset93
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>So just small items then.
> >>
> >>Also steaks, wine, crystal, silver, housewares, suits and casual
> >>clothing, the bed and
> >>bath linen for all his hotels, the list is endless. Then there are
> >>the imported
> >>construction laborers who built the hotel out of imported steel, the
> >>imported gardeners
> >>who mow the lawns, the imported maids that make the beds that were
> >>manufactured in China.
> >>The list, as I said, is endless.
> >>
> >>And you guys think this billionaire job exporter has *your* best
> >>interests at heart? LOL!
> >>
> >>Swill
> >>
> >
> > So you think that the whole of America is stuffed just because Donald
> > Trump bought some things that weren't made in America? You people are
> > cuckoo.
>
>
> Trump exported his manufacturing
> work rather than hire Americans do it.
>
> Trump imported foreign labor to
> work at his golf courses rather than
> hire Americans do it.
>
> And you actually believe he cares
> about American workers?
>
I thought you supported foreign labor.

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