A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.

I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
As I posted before, this would include evolution of
humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
300 years.,

The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
(photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
four species, as I have posted before.

I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
(both are new/dark moons).

For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
“Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .

If you know any aliens, pass this to them.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>
> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
> 300 years.,
>
> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
> four species, as I have posted before.
>
> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
> (both are new/dark moons).
>
> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>
> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>

Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with the
ID perps at the Discovery Institute.

Ron Okimoto

On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
> On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>
>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>> 300 years.,
>>
>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>
>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>
>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>
>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>>
>
> Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with the
> ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
>
> Ron Okimoto
>
Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy. Although
since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger than he was.

On 10/24/2024 9:17 AM, erik simpson wrote:
> On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
>> On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
>>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>>
>>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>>> 300 years.,
>>>
>>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>>
>>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>>
>>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>>
>>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with
>> the ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
>>
>> Ron Okimoto
>>
> Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy.  Although
> since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger than he was.
>

The ID perps do not allow comments on their propaganda, but they may
give this guy a fellowship if he claims to be writing a book on how
space aliens are messing with life on earth. They gave a fellowship to
REMINE, and he was pretty far out of touch with reality. When REMINE
talked about his creationist denial on TO he would claim that REMINE
(all caps) made such and such a claim or wrote whatever he was quoting.
He would write about himself as if he were writing about someone else,
and may have been writing about one of his other personalities. There
was no telling how many guys he was having an internal conversation with.

Ron Okimoto

Ron Okimoto

On 10/24/24 11:19 AM, RonO wrote:
> On 10/24/2024 9:17 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>> On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
>>> On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
>>>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>>>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>>>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>>>
>>>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>>>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>>>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>>>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>>>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>>>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>>>> 300 years.,
>>>>
>>>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>>>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>>>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>>>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>>>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>>>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>>>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>>>
>>>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>>>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>>>
>>>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with
>>> the ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
>>>
>>> Ron Okimoto
>>>
>> Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy.
>> Although since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger
>> than he was.
>>
>
> The ID perps do not allow comments on their propaganda, but they may
> give this guy a fellowship if he claims to be writing a book on how
> space aliens are messing with life on earth.  They gave a fellowship to
> REMINE, and he was pretty far out of touch with reality.  When REMINE
> talked about his creationist denial on TO he would claim that REMINE
> (all caps) made such and such a claim or wrote whatever he was quoting.
> He would write about himself as if he were writing about someone else,
> and may have been writing about one of his other personalities.  There
> was no telling how many guys he was having an internal conversation with.
>
> Ron Okimoto
>
> Ron Okimoto
>
I'd never heard of REMINE. He doesn't seem to believe in anything
except God. God can indeed do anything he wants, but there's no way to
tell if He's doing it.

On 10/24/2024 3:08 PM, erik simpson wrote:
> On 10/24/24 11:19 AM, RonO wrote:
>> On 10/24/2024 9:17 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>>> On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
>>>> On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>>>>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>>>>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>>>>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>>>>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>>>>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>>>>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>>>>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>>>>> 300 years.,
>>>>>
>>>>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>>>>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>>>>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>>>>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>>>>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>>>>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>>>>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>>>>
>>>>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>>>>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>>>>
>>>>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with
>>>> the ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
>>>>
>>>> Ron Okimoto
>>>>
>>> Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy.
>>> Although since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger
>>> than he was.
>>>
>>
>> The ID perps do not allow comments on their propaganda, but they may
>> give this guy a fellowship if he claims to be writing a book on how
>> space aliens are messing with life on earth.  They gave a fellowship
>> to REMINE, and he was pretty far out of touch with reality.  When
>> REMINE talked about his creationist denial on TO he would claim that
>> REMINE (all caps) made such and such a claim or wrote whatever he was
>> quoting. He would write about himself as if he were writing about
>> someone else, and may have been writing about one of his other
>> personalities.  There was no telling how many guys he was having an
>> internal conversation with.
>>
>> Ron Okimoto
>>
>> Ron Okimoto
>>
> I'd never heard of REMINE.  He doesn't seem to believe in anything
> except God.  God can indeed do anything he wants, but there's no way to
> tell if He's doing it.
>

REMINE was likely a nut job type of creationist that had a couple of
decent arguments that he claimed demonstrated that evolution was
impossible, but they were both things that geneticists had already
determined were not issues for explaining how much biological evolution
was possible. He understood what the issue was, but he could not accept
the solutions that scientists had come up with before he wrote his
books. My guess is that REMINE got a Discovery Institute ID scam
fellowship to write one of those books. At that time they were giving
out fellowship money to people that were writing junk to support the ID
creationist scam. One of the authors of the 1999 teach ID scam booklet
(Mark DeForrest) claimed to be a fellow of the ID scam unit at the
Discovery Institute, but like REMINE he was never acknowledged as such
on their web page. DeForrest was coauthor of the 1999 teach ID scam
booklet that the ID perps used to give out with their Wedge ID video,
and the 2000 Utah law review article claiming that teaching ID in the
public schools was legal.

So the Discovery Institute used to give out fellowships to people that
would write the bogus propaganda junk. It seemed to be payment for
their contribution to the ID scam.

Ron Okimoto

On Oct 24, 2024, RonO wrote
(in article <vfe33s$2o737$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 10/24/2024 9:17 AM, erik simpson wrote:
> > On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
> > > On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
> > > > species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
> > > > plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
> > > >
> > > > I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
> > > > birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
> > > > As I posted before, this would include evolution of
> > > > humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
> > > > group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
> > > > in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
> > > > 300 years.,
> > > >
> > > > The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
> > > > Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
> > > > (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
> > > > who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
> > > > four species, as I have posted before.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
> > > > to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
> > > > (both are new/dark moons).
> > > >
> > > > For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
> > > > “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
> > > >
> > > > If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
> > >
> > > Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with
> > > the ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
> > >
> > > Ron Okimoto
> > Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy. Although
> > since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger than he was.
>
> The ID perps do not allow comments on their propaganda, but they may
> give this guy a fellowship if he claims to be writing a book on how
> space aliens are messing with life on earth.

I’m not claiming that space aliens are messing with life on
earth but that they are being messed with as well, by
the following evolution collaborators:

1. my eight main deities Goddess, LOVE2, Cosma, Galacta,
Sola, Gaia, Luna, and My Species,

2. someones designated to be species someones of each
of the post-evolution species (which quite often were
those of the pre-evolution species),

3. the 49 most recent popthrough ootws (which I used to
call avatar types) and their min-ootws (multiple influencers,
which would include Radha for Krishna, though he is
not among the recent 49),

4. my region, from 13 km below the geoid to 255,000 km
above the geoid, which became a someone Region when
I soul-aligned myself with it, and which is a minor deity to me, and

5. Water, the chemical someone of water, which is a
minor deity to me.

Past 7-years-low-years openings of the way did not
involve any sudden evolution. Past 14-years-low-years
openings of the way (e.g. by Rama and Jacob)
involved some sudden evolution, but just within the
species of the ootw in their region, and not to the extent of
forming a new species. My low/working years have lasted
over 28 (4X7 or 2X14) years so far and may yet last
29 (7 plus two sunspot cycles), so long since I have
a global region, and again I am attempting to instigate
sudden evolution of mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians,
and woody plants globally (plus the 82 aliens if they
are not yet mammals).

If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
part of that.

However I suspect that I have failed again and
will have to try again at Samhain or perhaps even
Chinese New Year (which would be exactly 29 years
of low/working years).

Ha, thanks for not ignoring me, but I guess there
is not much traffic these days.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2CCB1DFA008879F870000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> On Oct 24, 2024, RonO wrote
> (in article <vfe33s$2o737$1@dont-email.me>):
>
> > On 10/24/2024 9:17 AM, erik simpson wrote:
> > > On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
> > > > On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > > A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
> > > > > species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
> > > > > plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
> > > > > birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
> > > > > As I posted before, this would include evolution of
> > > > > humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
> > > > > group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
> > > > > in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
> > > > > 300 years.,
> > > > >
> > > > > The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
> > > > > Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
> > > > > (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
> > > > > who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
> > > > > four species, as I have posted before.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
> > > > > to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
> > > > > (both are new/dark moons).
> > > > >
> > > > > For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
> > > > > “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
> > > > >
> > > > > If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with
> > > > the ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
> > > >
> > > > Ron Okimoto
> > > Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy. Although
> > > since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger than he was.
> >
> > The ID perps do not allow comments on their propaganda, but they may
> > give this guy a fellowship if he claims to be writing a book on how
> > space aliens are messing with life on earth.
>
> I’m not claiming that space aliens are messing with life on
> earth but that they are being messed with as well, by
> the following evolution collaborators:
>
> 1. my eight main deities Goddess, LOVE2, Cosma, Galacta,
> Sola, Gaia, Luna, and My Species,
>
> 2. someones designated to be species someones of each
> of the post-evolution species (which quite often were
> those of the pre-evolution species),
>
> 3. the 49 most recent popthrough ootws (which I used to
> call avatar types) and their min-ootws (multiple influencers,
> which would include Radha for Krishna, though he is
> not among the recent 49),
>
> 4. my region, from 13 km below the geoid to 255,000 km
> above the geoid, which became a someone Region when
> I soul-aligned myself with it, and which is a minor deity to me, and
>
> 5. Water, the chemical someone of water, which is a
> minor deity to me.

oops, I forgot

6. each someone that is a main or major (not necessarily
top, but not minor) deity to at least 5000 humans,
cetaceans, and/or non-human simians and is at
least minor good as defined by Goddess (who I define
as the ruler of the region all/everything).

> Past 7-years-low-years openings of the way did not
> involve any sudden evolution. Past 14-years-low-years
> openings of the way (e.g. by Rama and Jacob)
> involved some sudden evolution, but just within the
> species of the ootw in their region, and not to the extent of
> forming a new species. My low/working years have lasted
> over 28 (4X7 or 2X14) years so far and may yet last
> 29 (7 plus two sunspot cycles), so long since I have
> a global region, and again I am attempting to instigate
> sudden evolution of mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians,
> and woody plants globally (plus the 82 aliens if they
> are not yet mammals).
>
> If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
> sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
> higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
> effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
> In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
> higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
> trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
> systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
> part of that.
>
> However I suspect that I have failed again and
> will have to try again at Samhain or perhaps even
> Chinese New Year (which would be exactly 29 years
> of low/working years).
>
> Ha, thanks for not ignoring me, but I guess there
> is not much traffic these days.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

On 10/24/2024 9:03 PM, David Dalton wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
> (in article<0001HW.2CCB1DFA008879F870000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):
>
>> On Oct 24, 2024, RonO wrote
>> (in article <vfe33s$2o737$1@dont-email.me>):
>>
>>> On 10/24/2024 9:17 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>>>> On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
>>>>> On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>>>>>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>>>>>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>>>>>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>>>>>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>>>>>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>>>>>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>>>>>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>>>>>> 300 years.,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>>>>>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>>>>>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>>>>>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>>>>>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>>>>>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>>>>>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>>>>>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with
>>>>> the ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron Okimoto
>>>> Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy. Although
>>>> since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger than he was.
>>>
>>> The ID perps do not allow comments on their propaganda, but they may
>>> give this guy a fellowship if he claims to be writing a book on how
>>> space aliens are messing with life on earth.
>>
>> I’m not claiming that space aliens are messing with life on
>> earth but that they are being messed with as well, by
>> the following evolution collaborators:
>>
>> 1. my eight main deities Goddess, LOVE2, Cosma, Galacta,
>> Sola, Gaia, Luna, and My Species,
>>
>> 2. someones designated to be species someones of each
>> of the post-evolution species (which quite often were
>> those of the pre-evolution species),
>>
>> 3. the 49 most recent popthrough ootws (which I used to
>> call avatar types) and their min-ootws (multiple influencers,
>> which would include Radha for Krishna, though he is
>> not among the recent 49),
>>
>> 4. my region, from 13 km below the geoid to 255,000 km
>> above the geoid, which became a someone Region when
>> I soul-aligned myself with it, and which is a minor deity to me, and
>>
>> 5. Water, the chemical someone of water, which is a
>> minor deity to me.
>
> oops, I forgot
>
> 6. each someone that is a main or major (not necessarily
> top, but not minor) deity to at least 5000 humans,
> cetaceans, and/or non-human simians and is at
> least minor good as defined by Goddess (who I define
> as the ruler of the region all/everything).
>
>> Past 7-years-low-years openings of the way did not
>> involve any sudden evolution. Past 14-years-low-years
>> openings of the way (e.g. by Rama and Jacob)
>> involved some sudden evolution, but just within the
>> species of the ootw in their region, and not to the extent of
>> forming a new species. My low/working years have lasted
>> over 28 (4X7 or 2X14) years so far and may yet last
>> 29 (7 plus two sunspot cycles), so long since I have
>> a global region, and again I am attempting to instigate
>> sudden evolution of mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians,
>> and woody plants globally (plus the 82 aliens if they
>> are not yet mammals).
>>
>> If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
>> sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
>> higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
>> effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
>> In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
>> higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
>> trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
>> systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
>> part of that.
>>
>> However I suspect that I have failed again and
>> will have to try again at Samhain or perhaps even
>> Chinese New Year (which would be exactly 29 years
>> of low/working years).
>>
>> Ha, thanks for not ignoring me, but I guess there
>> is not much traffic these days.
>

You should contact the Discovery Institute's ID scam unit. You are just
the type to move the ID scam forward into the future.

They used to have a page where you could apply for fellowship
consideration, but now it looks like they are only looking for donations.

https://idthefuture.com/about/

I recall the fellowships used to be for $40,000 to $60,000. Dembski
used to claim that he got paid every year at the start of the ID scam.
All you have to do is grin and bear the bait and switch scam while
pretending to support the ID science.

Ron Okimoto

On 10/25/24 6:36 AM, RonO wrote:
> On 10/24/2024 9:03 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
>> (in
>> article<0001HW.2CCB1DFA008879F870000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):
>>
>>> On Oct 24, 2024, RonO wrote
>>> (in article <vfe33s$2o737$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>
>>>> On 10/24/2024 9:17 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>>>>> On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>>>>>>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>>>>>>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>>>>>>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>>>>>>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>>>>>>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>>>>>>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>>>>>>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>>>>>>> 300 years.,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>>>>>>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>>>>>>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>>>>>>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>>>>>>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>>>>>>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>>>>>>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>>>>>>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with
>>>>>> the ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron Okimoto
>>>>> Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy.
>>>>> Although
>>>>> since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger than
>>>>> he was.
>>>>
>>>> The ID perps do not allow comments on their propaganda, but they may
>>>> give this guy a fellowship if he claims to be writing a book on how
>>>> space aliens are messing with life on earth.
>>>
>>> I’m not claiming that space aliens are messing with life on
>>> earth but that they are being messed with as well, by
>>> the following evolution collaborators:
>>>
>>> 1. my eight main deities Goddess, LOVE2, Cosma, Galacta,
>>> Sola, Gaia, Luna, and My Species,
>>>
>>> 2. someones designated to be species someones of each
>>> of the post-evolution species (which quite often were
>>> those of the pre-evolution species),
>>>
>>> 3. the 49 most recent popthrough ootws (which I used to
>>> call avatar types) and their min-ootws (multiple influencers,
>>> which would include Radha for Krishna, though he is
>>> not among the recent 49),
>>>
>>> 4. my region, from 13 km below the geoid to 255,000 km
>>> above the geoid, which became a someone Region when
>>> I soul-aligned myself with it, and which is a minor deity to me, and
>>>
>>> 5. Water, the chemical someone of water, which is a
>>> minor deity to me.
>>
>> oops, I forgot
>>
>> 6. each someone that is a main or major (not necessarily
>> top, but not minor) deity to at least 5000 humans,
>> cetaceans, and/or non-human simians and is at
>> least minor good as defined by Goddess (who I define
>> as the ruler of the region all/everything).
>>
>>> Past 7-years-low-years openings of the way did not
>>> involve any sudden evolution. Past 14-years-low-years
>>> openings of the way (e.g. by Rama and Jacob)
>>> involved some sudden evolution, but just within the
>>> species of the ootw in their region, and not to the extent of
>>> forming a new species. My low/working years have lasted
>>> over 28 (4X7 or 2X14) years so far and may yet last
>>> 29 (7 plus two sunspot cycles), so long since I have
>>> a global region, and again I am attempting to instigate
>>> sudden evolution of mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians,
>>> and woody plants globally (plus the 82 aliens if they
>>> are not yet mammals).
>>>
>>> If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
>>> sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
>>> higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
>>> effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
>>> In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
>>> higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
>>> trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
>>> systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
>>> part of that.
>>>
>>> However I suspect that I have failed again and
>>> will have to try again at Samhain or perhaps even
>>> Chinese New Year (which would be exactly 29 years
>>> of low/working years).
>>>
>>> Ha, thanks for not ignoring me, but I guess there
>>> is not much traffic these days.
>>
>
> You should contact the Discovery Institute's ID scam unit.  You are just
> the type to move the ID scam forward into the future.
>
> They used to have a page where you could apply for fellowship
> consideration, but now it looks like they are only looking for donations.
>
> https://idthefuture.com/about/
>
> I recall the fellowships used to be for $40,000 to $60,000.  Dembski
> used to claim that he got paid every year at the start of the ID scam.
> All you have to do is grin and bear the bait and switch scam while
> pretending to support the ID science.
>
> Ron Okimoto
>
>
If you answer this jerk, he won't go away. Give him the JTEM treatment.

On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:14:57 -0700, the following appeared
in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
<eastside.erik@gmail.com>:

>On 10/25/24 6:36 AM, RonO wrote:
>> On 10/24/2024 9:03 PM, David Dalton wrote:
>>> On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
>>> (in
>>> article<0001HW.2CCB1DFA008879F870000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):
>>>
>>>> On Oct 24, 2024, RonO wrote
>>>> (in article <vfe33s$2o737$1@dont-email.me>):
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/24/2024 9:17 AM, erik simpson wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>>>>> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
>>>>>>>> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
>>>>>>>> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
>>>>>>>> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
>>>>>>>> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
>>>>>>>> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
>>>>>>>> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
>>>>>>>> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
>>>>>>>> 300 years.,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
>>>>>>>> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
>>>>>>>> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
>>>>>>>> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
>>>>>>>> four species, as I have posted before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
>>>>>>>> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
>>>>>>>> (both are new/dark moons).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
>>>>>>>> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with
>>>>>>> the ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ron Okimoto
>>>>>> Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy.
>>>>>> Although
>>>>>> since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger than
>>>>>> he was.
>>>>>
>>>>> The ID perps do not allow comments on their propaganda, but they may
>>>>> give this guy a fellowship if he claims to be writing a book on how
>>>>> space aliens are messing with life on earth.
>>>>
>>>> I’m not claiming that space aliens are messing with life on
>>>> earth but that they are being messed with as well, by
>>>> the following evolution collaborators:
>>>>
>>>> 1. my eight main deities Goddess, LOVE2, Cosma, Galacta,
>>>> Sola, Gaia, Luna, and My Species,
>>>>
>>>> 2. someones designated to be species someones of each
>>>> of the post-evolution species (which quite often were
>>>> those of the pre-evolution species),
>>>>
>>>> 3. the 49 most recent popthrough ootws (which I used to
>>>> call avatar types) and their min-ootws (multiple influencers,
>>>> which would include Radha for Krishna, though he is
>>>> not among the recent 49),
>>>>
>>>> 4. my region, from 13 km below the geoid to 255,000 km
>>>> above the geoid, which became a someone Region when
>>>> I soul-aligned myself with it, and which is a minor deity to me, and
>>>>
>>>> 5. Water, the chemical someone of water, which is a
>>>> minor deity to me.
>>>
>>> oops, I forgot
>>>
>>> 6. each someone that is a main or major (not necessarily
>>> top, but not minor) deity to at least 5000 humans,
>>> cetaceans, and/or non-human simians and is at
>>> least minor good as defined by Goddess (who I define
>>> as the ruler of the region all/everything).
>>>
>>>> Past 7-years-low-years openings of the way did not
>>>> involve any sudden evolution. Past 14-years-low-years
>>>> openings of the way (e.g. by Rama and Jacob)
>>>> involved some sudden evolution, but just within the
>>>> species of the ootw in their region, and not to the extent of
>>>> forming a new species. My low/working years have lasted
>>>> over 28 (4X7 or 2X14) years so far and may yet last
>>>> 29 (7 plus two sunspot cycles), so long since I have
>>>> a global region, and again I am attempting to instigate
>>>> sudden evolution of mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians,
>>>> and woody plants globally (plus the 82 aliens if they
>>>> are not yet mammals).
>>>>
>>>> If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
>>>> sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
>>>> higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
>>>> effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
>>>> In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
>>>> higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
>>>> trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
>>>> systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
>>>> part of that.
>>>>
>>>> However I suspect that I have failed again and
>>>> will have to try again at Samhain or perhaps even
>>>> Chinese New Year (which would be exactly 29 years
>>>> of low/working years).
>>>>
>>>> Ha, thanks for not ignoring me, but I guess there
>>>> is not much traffic these days.
>>>
>>
>> You should contact the Discovery Institute's ID scam unit.  You are just
>> the type to move the ID scam forward into the future.
>>
>> They used to have a page where you could apply for fellowship
>> consideration, but now it looks like they are only looking for donations.
>>
>> https://idthefuture.com/about/
>>
>> I recall the fellowships used to be for $40,000 to $60,000.  Dembski
>> used to claim that he got paid every year at the start of the ID scam.
>> All you have to do is grin and bear the bait and switch scam while
>> pretending to support the ID science.
>>
>> Ron Okimoto
>>
>>
>If you answer this jerk, he won't go away. Give him the JTEM treatment.
>
Unfortunately, he's doing so; he sometimes replies to that
idiot too.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2CCA2CCD004FF42970000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
> species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
> plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
>
> I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
> birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
> As I posted before, this would include evolution of
> humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
> group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
> in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
> 300 years.,
>
> The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
> Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
> (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
> who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
> four species, as I have posted before.
>
> I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
> to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
> (both are new/dark moons).
>
> For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
> “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
>
> If you know any aliens, pass this to them.

From that thread:

October 24, 2024. To get UTC add 2.5 hours

sudden magickal physical evolution setup [SMPES] began 2:24 a.m.

(s0) calculations done, matter movement begun 5:09 a.m.

(s1) mitochondrial DNA adjusted by 3:33 p.m.

(s2) RNA adjusted by 5:40 p.m.

(s3) nuclear DNA, sperm, ova, and pollen adjusted by 8:54 p.m.

October 25, 2024

(s4) some cells --> early stem cell state as of 12:23 a.m.

[SMPESetup], which had many collaborators, is complete.
(See the “Sudden evolution attempt, an update” thread
on talk.origins for a list of collaborators.)

Goddess began the sudden magickal physical evolution
(s.m.p.e.) at 12:24 a.m.

At my age, physical markings will be slightly visible in
three days and fully realized in three weeks. For the
very young it could be less. Medium criminal have
three years to start following their healing circle
prescriptions or they will miss out on the extra long
lifespan benefits of the s.m.p.e. Major and extreme
criminal have less than that or they will die.

That’s assuming that this attempt is working, which
I deem unlikely, though I haven’t had a Cinderella
reset at midnight.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2CCB1DFA008879F870000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
> sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
> higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
> effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
> In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
> higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
> trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
> systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
> part of that.

kazu asked on another group

> how many dimensions would you say are there?

I don’t know. At one time I said there is a seven-dimensional
cardioid with five of space and two of time (or rather a
complex time with a real part and a small imaginary part
that was more significant near the Big Bang if any). At
another time I thought there were 55 dimensions. I
do have some physics clues generated during waning
crescent highs that I plan to eventually follow up on,
and I do have some mathematical background.

In the peek I got into higher dimension(s) while staring
at the sun briefly with my glasses off, it was as if space
tilted slightly and there was a tunnelling beyond the sun
(at the upper right of the sun), as if I was looking into
a space between two mirrors facing one another. This
tunnelling could be likened to a horn of oil with its
wide mouth facing me, and “anointing” me. Then as
I looked away, near-invisible wings of space descended
on me, like umbrella spokes or a metal vegetable
steamer folding in on me, and I blacked out and fell
into the water to come to in the upward-facing dog
pose of the yoga sun salutation series (so chest expanded
so I wouldn’t drown). This I liken to the descent of
wings on Jesus during his baptism, which I believe
was his anointing by the divine, and which gave him
the names Messiah and Christ, which both mean
anointed one. But was it the sun doing the anointing
of someone beyond the sun? I am not yet sure. The
Lakota talk of someone beyond or behind the sun,
and they have a Sun Gazing Dance which may have
its origins in an experience like mine.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

David Dalton wrote:

> On Oct 24, 2024, RonO wrote
> (in article <vfe33s$2o737$1@dont-email.me>):
>
> > On 10/24/2024 9:17 AM, erik simpson wrote:
> > > On 10/24/24 6:33 AM, RonO wrote:
> > > > On 10/24/2024 2:20 AM, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > > A while ago I said there were 57 aliens here of four DNA-based
> > > > > species. But 25 more have recently arrived. Some of the 57
> > > > > plan to leave in three weeks, so time is of the essence.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am still trying to instigate sudden evolution of mammals,
> > > > > birds, reptiles, amphibians, and woody plants globally.
> > > > > As I posted before, this would include evolution of
> > > > > humans+aliens globally into 60 species in ghuman species
> > > > > group. 55 of those would have an equivalent of 100 years
> > > > > in homo sapiens of 200 years and 5 of them would have
> > > > > 300 years.,
> > > > >
> > > > > The five are Beothuk species (my species after evolution),
> > > > > Hain, Vico, Gilled (gilled and air breatiing), and Photo
> > > > > (photosynthesizing), and the four species of aliens,
> > > > > who are the last of their kinds, will go into the latter
> > > > > four species, as I have posted before.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope this will occur soon but suspect that I might have
> > > > > to wait until Samhain or maybe even Chinese New Year
> > > > > (both are new/dark moons).
> > > > >
> > > > > For updates on my latest attempt see the thread
> > > > > “Cumulative changes” on alt.religion.druid .
> > > > >
> > > > > If you know any aliens, pass this to them.
> > > >
> > > > Sounds like you should be channeling Nyikos or getting in touch with
> > > > the ID perps at the Discovery Institute.
> > > >
> > > > Ron Okimoto
> > > Even the ID perps and Nyikos aren't in a league with this guy. Although
> > > since Nyikos is dead he may have evolved to be even stranger than he was.
> >
> > The ID perps do not allow comments on their propaganda, but they may
> > give this guy a fellowship if he claims to be writing a book on how
> > space aliens are messing with life on earth.
>
> I’m not claiming that space aliens are messing with life on
> earth but that they are being messed with as well, by
> the following evolution collaborators:
>
> 1. my eight main deities Goddess, LOVE2, Cosma, Galacta,
> Sola, Gaia, Luna, and My Species,
>
> 2. someones designated to be species someones of each
> of the post-evolution species (which quite often were
> those of the pre-evolution species),
>
> 3. the 49 most recent popthrough ootws (which I used to
> call avatar types) and their min-ootws (multiple influencers,
> which would include Radha for Krishna, though he is
> not among the recent 49),
>
> 4. my region, from 13 km below the geoid to 255,000 km
> above the geoid, which became a someone Region when
> I soul-aligned myself with it, and which is a minor deity to me, and
>
> 5. Water, the chemical someone of water, which is a
> minor deity to me.
>
> Past 7-years-low-years openings of the way did not
> involve any sudden evolution. Past 14-years-low-years
> openings of the way (e.g. by Rama and Jacob)
> involved some sudden evolution, but just within the
> species of the ootw in their region, and not to the extent of
> forming a new species. My low/working years have lasted
> over 28 (4X7 or 2X14) years so far and may yet last
> 29 (7 plus two sunspot cycles), so long since I have
> a global region, and again I am attempting to instigate
> sudden evolution of mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians,
> and woody plants globally (plus the 82 aliens if they
> are not yet mammals).
>
> If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
> sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
> higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
> effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
> In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
> higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
> trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
> systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
> part of that.
>
> However I suspect that I have failed again and
> will have to try again at Samhain or perhaps even
> Chinese New Year (which would be exactly 29 years
> of low/working years).
>
> Ha, thanks for not ignoring me, but I guess there
> is not much traffic these days.
-------------------------------------

Now I remember why you're in my loony bin. (PLONK)

On Oct 26, 2024, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2CCCAF4F00E4702E70000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):

> On Oct 24, 2024, David Dalton wrote
> (in article<0001HW.2CCB1DFA008879F870000D59038F@news.eternal-september.org>):
>
> > If it works, how would I explain it to atheists? In my
> > sun stare of September 5, 1991 I got a peek into
> > higher dimensions, and just after it there was a wraparound
> > effect which augmented my higher dimensional form.
> > In the last over 28 years I have been flapping my
> > higher dimensional butterfly wings in an attempt to
> > trigger nonlinear chaos/catastrophe theory global
> > systemic change, with the sudden evolution being
> > part of that.
>
> kazu asked on another group
>
> > how many dimensions would you say are there?
>
> I don’t know. At one time I said there is a seven-dimensional
> cardioid with five of space and two of time (or rather a
> complex time with a real part and a small imaginary part
> that was more significant near the Big Bang if any). At
> another time I thought there were 55 dimensions. I
> do have some physics clues generated during waning
> crescent highs that I plan to eventually follow up on,
> and I do have some mathematical background.
>
> In the peek I got into higher dimension(s) while staring
> at the sun briefly with my glasses off, it was as if space
> tilted

or dimpled

> slightly and there was a tunnelling beyond the sun
> (at the upper right of the sun), as if I was looking into
> a space between two mirrors facing one another. This
> tunnelling could be likened to a horn of oil with its
> wide mouth facing me, and “anointing” me. Then as
> I looked away, near-invisible wings of space descended
> on me, like umbrella spokes or a metal vegetable
> steamer folding in on me, and I blacked out and fell
> into the water to come to in the upward-facing dog
> pose of the yoga sun salutation series (so chest expanded
> so I wouldn’t drown). This I liken to the descent of
> wings on Jesus during his baptism, which I believe
> was his anointing by the divine, and which gave him
> the names Messiah and Christ, which both mean
> anointed one. But was it the sun doing the anointing
> of someone beyond the sun? I am not yet sure. The
> Lakota talk of someone beyond or behind the sun,
> and they have a Sun Gazing Dance which may have
> its origins in an experience like mine.

--
David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“Mary walks down to the water’s edge and there she hangs Her head to
find herself faded a shadow of what she once was” (Sarah McLachlan)