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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/appeal-judges-voice-doubts-about-ruling-
on-transgender-woman-s-admission-into-wyoming-sorority/ar-BB1mldE3

DENVER (AP) � Federal appellate court judges expressed doubt Tuesday about
whether they could rule on a transgender woman's admission into a
University of Wyoming sorority or if a lower court should continue to hear
the case.

The admission of Artemis Langford into the Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority
prompted a lawsuit from six other sorority members last year. After
hearing from both sides in the case, the three-judge U.S. 10th Circuit
Court of Appeals took the arguments under advisement without ruling.

The case at Wyoming�s only four-year public university has drawn
widespread attention as transgender people fight for more acceptance in
schools, athletics, workplaces and elsewhere, while others push back.
In their lawsuit, the six current and former members of the Kappa Kappa
Gamma sorority chapter in Laramie, Wyoming, challenge Langford�s admission
by casting doubt on whether sorority rules allowed a transgender woman.

An attorney for the sorority sisters told the judges Tuesday the national
sorority council was unfair to sorority members by changing who could
belong. However, the bulk of the judges' questions and remarks to
attorneys focused on whether the case was even ripe for appeal.

Last summer, U.S. District Judge Alan Johnson in Cheyenne dismissed the
case without prejudice in a ruling that suggested the lawsuit could be
refiled in his court. That alone should forestall appeal, attorneys for
the Ohio-based sorority argue in court documents.

Appellate Judge Carolyn McHugh expressed openness to that argument.

�It seems to me it's not final,� McHugh told the sorority sisters'
attorney, May Mailman, at the outset of Tuesday's oral arguments.

Mailman told the judges the case was sufficiently resolved in district
court to allow appeal. But appellate Judge Richard Federico voiced similar
doubts.

�The district court is offering you a lifeline,� he told Mailman.

Mailman argued that by allowing transgender women into the chapter at the
university, the national sorority council and president violated their
obligation to sorority members to faithfully follow sorority bylaws. State
law in Ohio, however, gives the volunteer board for the private, Ohio-
based organization wide leeway to define terms in those bylaws, including
who's a woman, argued Kappa Kappa Gamma attorney Natalie McLaughlin.

A court may get involved only if such an interpretation is unreasonable or
arbitrary but that wasn't the case, McLaughlin added.

The arguments drew a handful of demonstrators outside the federal
courthouse holding signs that read �Save Sisterhood� and �Women have the
right to women's only spaces.�

�We shouldn't have to say 'Here's why I need my women's space.' Women's
spaces should be protected, period,� Mailman said at a news conference
after the arguments.

The argument that a court should be able to tell a private organization
how to define a woman flies in the face of conservative skepticism about
big government, the Wyoming LGBTQ+ advocacy group Wyoming Equality said in
a statement.

�They are arguing against the right of organizations to determine their
own membership,� Director Sara Burlingame said. �I am optimistic that the
10th Circuit will agree with Judge Johnson.�

The sorority sisters' lawsuit against Kappa Kappa Gamma and its president,
Mary Pat Rooney, claimed Langford made them feel uncomfortable in the
sorority house. Langford has been dropped from the lawsuit on appeal.

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> Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/appeal-judges-voice-doubts-about-ruling-
> on-transgender-woman-s-admission-into-wyoming-sorority/ar-BB1mldE3
>
> DENVER (AP) — Federal appellate court judges expressed doubt
Tuesday about
> whether they could rule on a transgender woman's admission into a
> University of Wyoming sorority or if a lower court should continue
to hear
> the case.
>
> The admission of Artemis Langford into the Kappa Kappa Gamma
sorority
> prompted a lawsuit from six other sorority members last year. After

> hearing from both sides in the case, the three-judge U.S. 10th
Circuit
> Court of Appeals took the arguments under advisement without
ruling.
>
> The case at Wyoming’s only four-year public university has drawn
> widespread attention as transgender people fight for more
acceptance in
> schools, athletics, workplaces and elsewhere, while others push
back.
> In their lawsuit, the six current and former members of the Kappa
Kappa
> Gamma sorority chapter in Laramie, Wyoming, challenge Langford’s
admission
> by casting doubt on whether sorority rules allowed a transgender
woman.
>
> An attorney for the sorority sisters told the judges Tuesday the
national
> sorority council was unfair to sorority members by changing who
could
> belong. However, the bulk of the judges' questions and remarks to
> attorneys focused on whether the case was even ripe for appeal.
>
> Last summer, U.S. District Judge Alan Johnson in Cheyenne dismissed
the
> case without prejudice in a ruling that suggested the lawsuit could
be
> refiled in his court. That alone should forestall appeal, attorneys
for
> the Ohio-based sorority argue in court documents.
>
> Appellate Judge Carolyn McHugh expressed openness to that argument.
>
> “It seems to me it's not final,” McHugh told the sorority sisters'
> attorney, May Mailman, at the outset of Tuesday's oral arguments.
>
> Mailman told the judges the case was sufficiently resolved in
district
> court to allow appeal. But appellate Judge Richard Federico voiced
similar
> doubts.
>
> “The district court is offering you a lifeline,” he told Mailman.
>
> Mailman argued that by allowing transgender women into the chapter
at the
> university, the national sorority council and president violated
their
> obligation to sorority members to faithfully follow sorority
bylaws. State
> law in Ohio, however, gives the volunteer board for the private,
Ohio-
> based organization wide leeway to define terms in those bylaws,
including
> who's a woman, argued Kappa Kappa Gamma attorney Natalie
McLaughlin.
>
> A court may get involved only if such an interpretation is
unreasonable or
> arbitrary but that wasn't the case, McLaughlin added.
>
> The arguments drew a handful of demonstrators outside the federal
> courthouse holding signs that read “Save Sisterhood” and “Women
have the
> right to women's only spaces.”
>
> “We shouldn't have to say 'Here's why I need my women's space.'
Women's
> spaces should be protected, period,” Mailman said at a news
conference
> after the arguments.
>
> The argument that a court should be able to tell a private
organization
> how to define a woman flies in the face of conservative skepticism
about
> big government, the Wyoming LGBTQ+ advocacy group Wyoming Equality
said in
> a statement.
>
> “They are arguing against the right of organizations to determine
their
> own membership,” Director Sara Burlingame said. “I am optimistic
that the
> 10th Circuit will agree with Judge Johnson.”
>
> The sorority sisters' lawsuit against Kappa Kappa Gamma and its
president,
> Mary Pat Rooney, claimed Langford made them feel uncomfortable in
the
> sorority house. Langford has been dropped from the lawsuit on
appeal.
>
>
> --
> We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so
that
> stupid people won't be offended.
>
> Durham Report: The FBI has an integrity problem. It has none.
>
> No collusion - Special Counsel Robert Swan Mueller III, March 2019.
> Officially made Nancy Pelosi a two-time impeachment loser.
>
> Thank you for cleaning up the disaster of the 2008-2017 Obama /
Biden
> fiasco, President Trump.
>
> Under Barack Obama's leadership, the United States of America
became the
> The World According To Garp. Obama sold out heterosexuals for
Hollywood
> queer liberal democrat donors.
>
> President Trump boosted the economy, reduced illegal invasions,
appointed
> dozens of judges and three SCOTUS justices.

Your not a woman
or man unless your born with all the parts. You can graft those parts
on, or even take special pills but that does not mean you are
something. Only a man has sperm cells he produces that could function
from even when he was nine years old into the nineties. Only woman
could produce eggs ( which she has in her since birth ) and the Uterus
made specifically for nesting an egg that has been fertilized.

Case closed stop convincing twelve year old young men to cut off their
penises, and girls to take special pills. It is robbing peoples of the
ability to accept who they are.

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