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Subject: Re: "Civilization" Appears To Be TURKISH
From: Steve Hayes
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On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 23:52:55 -0400, "186282@ud0s4.net"
<186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

>Megalithic sites at Gobekli Tepe with symbolic art- southwestern
>Turkey - 10-12k BC

Back then Turkey wasn't Turkish.
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Subject: Re: "Civilization" Appears To Be TURKISH
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On 8/7/24 12:14 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 23:52:55 -0400, "186282@ud0s4.net"
> <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>
>> Megalithic sites at Gobekli Tepe with symbolic art- southwestern
>> Turkey - 10-12k BC
>
> Back then Turkey wasn't Turkish.

Have to go by more modern names, lest there
be no points of reference. Clearly "Turkish"
culture as we know it now did not exist in
that time and place - though much of the same
gene pool and deep cultural roots may.

https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/2022-08-25/ty-article/genetic-study-detects-unexpected-origin-of-worlds-first-farmers/00000182-cf26-d35f-a9ea-cf26bf8b0000

We need more usable DNA from right near Gobekli Tepe.

In any case, the overt origins of 'civilization'
seem to be from THERE and then spread south.

But, WHY there ? What was so special about that
particular slice of the world ? Simply enough
population density, perhaps for the first time
ever, so "tribal" spilled-over into 'cooperative
efforts' ?

Blow it out your ear.

soc / soc.history / Re: "Civilization" Appears To Be TURKISH

Subject	Author
Re: "Civilization" Appears To Be TURKISH	Steve Hayes
Re: "Civilization" Appears To Be TURKISH	186282@ud0s4.net